Archive-Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:06:32 -0700 Subject: Re: How to change priority of an queue entry & put an entry on hold .... From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <390d990c$1@news.kapsch.co.at> Date: 1 May 2000 16:47:40 +0200 To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU In article <009E8FB8.F65A07A2.85@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw>, rakesh@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw writes: >Is there a way to change priority of an entry in MX queues? I don't see any priority related options... >Can an entry be put on hold & released later on? $ MCP QUEUE HOLD entry $ MCP QUEUE READY entry How did we guess that ;-) But, you're right, they are still not documented. Matt some kind of promised to fix this, but... -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Tel. +43 1 81111-2651 Network and OpenVMS system manager Fax. +43 1 81111-888 FBFV/Information Services E-mail eplan@kapsch.net <<< KAPSCH AG Wagenseilgasse 1 PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLAN A-1121 VIENNA AUSTRIA "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:06:38 -0700 Subject: RE: How to change priority of an queue entry & put an entry on hold .... From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <390d9985$1@news.kapsch.co.at> Date: 1 May 2000 16:49:41 +0200 To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU In article <009E8FBC.E67242D3.109@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw>, rakesh@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw writes: >The change of priority could be useful to increase priority of an queue >entry so that it will be jumped ahead in queue & will be processed earlier >than in normal situations. Similary, the priority could be reduced to delay >processing of an entry so that others get processed faster. What's wrong with a lot of SMTP agents so that most your mails are delivered concurrently ? -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Tel. +43 1 81111-2651 Network and OpenVMS system manager Fax. +43 1 81111-888 FBFV/Information Services E-mail eplan@kapsch.net <<< KAPSCH AG Wagenseilgasse 1 PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLAN A-1121 VIENNA AUSTRIA "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:12:02 -0700 Subject: Re: SMTP Relay Question From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <390d9da0$1@news.kapsch.co.at> Date: 1 May 2000 17:07:12 +0200 To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU In article <009E9175.380661A8.11@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu>, Rick Dyson writes: >Config: > OpenVMS v6.2/Alpha > MX v5.1a > SMTP relay disabled > A local domain defined > various inside networks defined with relay allowed > >Situation: > A mail client (like OpenVMS Netscape Mail) has its SMTP server defined > to be "localhost" (the default). NETSCAPE Mail does use "MAIL" (and not "LOCALHOST") as default server name. >Problem: > SMTP relay is rejected for localhost (127.0.0.1) unless I explictily > add it to the list of "Inside IP Networks/hosts" with relay allowed. I see no problem allowing it. >Question: > Should "localhost" be accepted by default? Or is this a case where > each user just has to configure the client to point to the real > SMTP server's name? Both works. But I tend to recommend the 2nd option (means not the localhost option). Assume, you have a cluster and more than one node running the SMTP server. So you use a cluster alias or more-than-one A RR in BIND/DNS to reach (one of the) SMTP servers (normally pointed to by the name MAIL.YOUR.DOMAIN.NAME) If you use LOCALHOST, you prevent/disable this feature. -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Tel. +43 1 81111-2651 Network and OpenVMS system manager Fax. +43 1 81111-888 FBFV/Information Services E-mail eplan@kapsch.net <<< KAPSCH AG Wagenseilgasse 1 PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLAN A-1121 VIENNA AUSTRIA "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:27:58 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 10:27:45 -0500 From: Rick Dyson Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: dyson@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu Message-ID: <009E96E0.5A63AA78.19@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu> Subject: Re: SMTP Relay Question > From: MX%"MX-List@MadGoat.com" 1-MAY-2000 10:14:34.82 > Subj: Re: SMTP Relay Question > >Situation: > > A mail client (like OpenVMS Netscape Mail) has its SMTP server defined > > to be "localhost" (the default). > > NETSCAPE Mail does use "MAIL" (and not "LOCALHOST") as default server name. Hi Peter, Actually, not for Netscape MAIL v3.03 for OpenVMS. It defaults to "localhost". I suspect you are thinking of the WinXX clients? Since some of my users refuse to learn anything :), I wanted to not have to go around and handhold each one of them when they use Netscape for the first time. I was sort of fishing for Matt and Hunter to suggest that they should by default always include 127.0.0.1 as an allowed host even with SMTP relay disabled. I don't think it would be a security problem, right? 127.0.0.1 can't be routed anyway, so it would necessarily be a local node and not someone trying to relay... Oh well, the shorter fix for me was to add 127.0.0.1 to the list of "relay allowed" nodes on all my MX server configs. Regards, rick -- Richard L. Dyson rick-dyson@UIowa.EDU Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity. It eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation. -- Johnny Hart ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:29:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 10:29:57 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <000501102957.202000ba@process.com> Subject: Re: SMTP Relay Question Rick Dyson writes: > >I was sort of fishing for Matt and Hunter to suggest >that they should by default always include 127.0.0.1 as an allowed host >even with SMTP relay disabled. That's Matt's call.... > Oh well, the shorter fix for me was to add 127.0.0.1 to the list of >"relay allowed" nodes on all my MX server configs. > That works. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 10:08:43 -0700 Subject: Re: SMTP Relay Question From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <390db957$1@news.kapsch.co.at> Date: 1 May 2000 19:05:27 +0200 To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU In article <009E96E0.5A63AA78.19@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu>, Rick Dyson writes: >>>Situation: >>> A mail client (like OpenVMS Netscape Mail) has its SMTP server defined >>> to be "localhost" (the default). >> >> NETSCAPE Mail does use "MAIL" (and not "LOCALHOST") as default server name. > > Actually, not for Netscape MAIL v3.03 for OpenVMS. It defaults to >"localhost". I suspect you are thinking of the WinXX clients? Sorry, yes. Why not upgrade to MOZILLA aka NETSCAPE V6 ;-) > Since some of my users refuse to learn anything :), I wanted to not >have to go around and handhold each one of them when they use Netscape >for the first time. Your decision. My decision was different. I want to be flexible at the/every server side. And that is the reason why service (alias) names exists in BIND/DNS. And the best time a user accepts problems is at the first time he is using something (here, AUTOPROXY config is also required for the browser, which is a Ooops for LYNX and MOSAIC. Sigh) > I was sort of fishing for Matt and Hunter to suggest >that they should by default always include 127.0.0.1 as an allowed host >even with SMTP relay disabled. Matt ? I second it. > I don't think it would be a security >problem, right? 127.0.0.1 can't be routed anyway, so it would >necessarily be a local node and not someone trying to relay... Yup. An access via localhost is not more unsecure than an access via the real nodename. > Oh well, the shorter fix for me was to add 127.0.0.1 to the list of >"relay allowed" nodes on all my MX server configs. Problem solved. Be happy... -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Tel. +43 1 81111-2651 Network and OpenVMS system manager Fax. +43 1 81111-888 FBFV/Information Services E-mail eplan@kapsch.net <<< KAPSCH AG Wagenseilgasse 1 PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLAN A-1121 VIENNA AUSTRIA "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 10:28:18 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 12:28:07 -0500 From: Rick Dyson Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: dyson@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu Message-ID: <009E96F1.2B68984D.1@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu> Subject: Re: SMTP Relay Question > From: MX%"MX-List@MadGoat.com" 1-MAY-2000 12:09:08.74 > Subj: Re: SMTP Relay Question > Why not upgrade to MOZILLA aka NETSCAPE V6 ;-) Sorry to bug the MX list with this, but is Mozilla stable now? What feelings do any of you as admins/managers do you have about deploying to the general user population? I had heard some unfriendly comments initially and was sort of hanging back for the final Netscape v6 release from Compaq/OpenVMS. rick -- Richard L. Dyson rick-dyson@UIowa.EDU Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity. It eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation. -- Johnny Hart ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 11:27:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 21:20:19 +0300 From: rakesh@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: rakesh@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw Message-ID: <009E973B.83F49E74.11@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw> Subject: RE: How to change priority of an queue entry & put an entry on hold .... Possibly a round about solution but still doesn't guarantee that entry you want to process as next entry will be processesd. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 12:00:15 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 14:00:02 -0600 From: system@niuhep.physics.niu.edu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: rick-dyson@UIowa.EDU Message-ID: <009E96FE.0232A9D4.9@niuhep.physics.niu.edu> Subject: Re: SMTP Relay Question > Sorry to bug the MX list with this, but is Mozilla stable now? No. It is still listed as pre-beta, and my experience does not particularly contradict that. >What feelings do any of you as admins/managers do you have about >deploying to general user population? I had heard some unfriendly >comments initially I'm not sure what the problem would be... what were the initial opinions? I would be happy to hear from others ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 23:23:12 -0700 Message-ID: <273B66E0834AD311A63F00508B0FFEA258FA89@ftp1.kkh.org> From: "Oldacres, Adrian S" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: HELP Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:19:22 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Help ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 16:16:57 -0700 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000508161344.02713c8c@dirmarketing.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 16:13:44 -0700 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Stephen Garrett Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Any idea why the SMTP rejects this address??? In-Reply-To: <009E8F3C.E94AEEA8.8@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This is a crazy one. Perhaps it is just late and I am not seeing the obvious. I have this email address that I am trying to send to: meredithm@wholesaleportal.com and the SMTP server rejects this address as "Unacceptable". There are MX records for wholesaleportal.com, I just checked. Anyone have a clue why this would be rejected??? ALLL other sending email is going out fine! I am stumped. TIA! Steve -- Stephen Garrett GPS steve@gpsnet.com (360) 896-2714 ICQ# 10776767 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 16:27:39 -0700 From: "Esa Laitinen" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Subject: RE: Any idea why the SMTP rejects this address??? Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 16:32:42 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20000508161344.02713c8c@dirmarketing.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > and the SMTP server rejects this address as "Unacceptable". Send the error message. esa ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 17:05:08 -0700 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000508170156.0277a338@dirmarketing.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 17:01:56 -0700 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Stephen Garrett Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: Any idea why the SMTP rejects this address??? In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.3.32.20000508161344.02713c8c@dirmarketing.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" additional: Now this is really bizzare. I tried to send that message for something like an hour, and I kept getting a message: The recipient meredithm@wholesaleportal.com is not acceptable to your SMTP server. The message is not sendable until the recipient has been changed. I was composing using Eudora. Now, when you asked for the error message, I tried to resend in order to capture the message and wham, it went thru!!!!! I have never ever seen this behaviour before. Anyone shed some light>?>?>? Steve P.S. (1) earlier I had rebooted the "sending" PC, with no change in behavior (2) I had issued a MCP RESET command to reset all MX processing, same error message was emitted. (3) MX 5.1 At 04:32 PM 5/8/2000 -0700, Esa Laitinen wrote: >> and the SMTP server rejects this address as "Unacceptable". > >Send the error message. > >esa > -- Stephen Garrett GPS steve@gpsnet.com (360) 896-2714 ICQ# 10776767 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 17:38:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 19:38:43 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <000508193843.202000ba@process.com> Subject: RE: Any idea why the SMTP rejects this address??? Stephen Garrett writes: > >Now, when you asked for the error message, I tried to resend in order >to capture the message and wham, it went thru!!!!! > >I have never ever seen this behaviour before. > >Anyone shed some light>?>?>? > Not without the error message MX was returning (or the code that Eudora thought was an error message, which may not mean the same thing). Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 19:29:31 -0700 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000508192617.027824a0@dirmarketing.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 19:26:17 -0700 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com, MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Stephen Garrett Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: Any idea why the SMTP rejects this address??? In-Reply-To: <000508193843.202000ba@process.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ok, looked at the SMTP logs: MX SMTP SERVER: rejected message from to sent by [xxx.yyy.zzz.qqq] due to disabled relay Hmmm, yet later the message went thru fine?!?!?! the [xxx.yyy.zzz.qqq] address is part of my inside network xxx.yyy.zzz.0 defined "Inside IP network/hosts" What other information should I look for???? Thanks!! Steve At 07:38 PM 5/8/2000 -0500, Hunter Goatley wrote: >Stephen Garrett writes: >> >>Now, when you asked for the error message, I tried to resend in order >>to capture the message and wham, it went thru!!!!! >> >>I have never ever seen this behaviour before. >> >>Anyone shed some light>?>?>? >> >Not without the error message MX was returning (or the code that >Eudora thought was an error message, which may not mean the same >thing). > >Hunter >------ >Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ > http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ > -- Stephen Garrett GPS steve@gpsnet.com (360) 896-2714 ICQ# 10776767 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 19:29:36 -0700 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000508192617.027824a0@dirmarketing.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 19:26:17 -0700 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com, MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Stephen Garrett Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: Any idea why the SMTP rejects this address??? In-Reply-To: <000508193843.202000ba@process.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ok, looked at the SMTP logs: MX SMTP SERVER: rejected message from to sent by [xxx.yyy.zzz.qqq] due to disabled relay Hmmm, yet later the message went thru fine?!?!?! the [xxx.yyy.zzz.qqq] address is part of my inside network xxx.yyy.zzz.0 defined "Inside IP network/hosts" What other information should I look for???? Thanks!! Steve At 07:38 PM 5/8/2000 -0500, Hunter Goatley wrote: >Stephen Garrett writes: >> >>Now, when you asked for the error message, I tried to resend in order >>to capture the message and wham, it went thru!!!!! >> >>I have never ever seen this behaviour before. >> >>Anyone shed some light>?>?>? >> >Not without the error message MX was returning (or the code that >Eudora thought was an error message, which may not mean the same >thing). > >Hunter >------ >Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ > http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ > -- Stephen Garrett GPS steve@gpsnet.com (360) 896-2714 ICQ# 10776767 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 19:35:14 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:35:33 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <000508213533.202000ba@process.com> Subject: RE: Any idea why the SMTP rejects this address??? Stephen Garrett writes: > >Ok, looked at the SMTP logs: > >MX SMTP SERVER: rejected message from to > sent by [xxx.yyy.zzz.qqq] due to >disabled relay > >Hmmm, yet later the message went thru fine?!?!?! > >the [xxx.yyy.zzz.qqq] address is part of my inside network xxx.yyy.zzz.0 >defined "Inside IP network/hosts" > Maybe the RESET you did reset something about the DNS queries or ???? Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 20:07:18 -0700 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000508200405.026fe7c8@dirmarketing.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 20:04:05 -0700 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Stephen Garrett Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: Any idea why the SMTP rejects this address??? In-Reply-To: <000508213533.202000ba@process.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Perhaps, if it takes more than an hour for the reset to have an effect??? I mean I did a MCP reset, then tried the message 66 seconds later and then 2min 24sec after that one. Why would a DNS query case a problem in this case? If I send a message to xxx@jsadf.com the SMTP server wholeheartedly accepts it. So why would it reject this other message on basis of disabled relay? This was really really wierd. Since you mention DNS, could my DNS have affected this in some way??? TIA Steve >Maybe the RESET you did reset something about the DNS queries or ???? > >Hunter >------ >Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ > http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ > -- Stephen Garrett GPS steve@gpsnet.com (360) 896-2714 ICQ# 10776767 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 20:19:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 22:20:06 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <000508222006.202000ba@process.com> Subject: RE: Any idea why the SMTP rejects this address??? Stephen Garrett writes: > >Since you mention DNS, could my DNS have affected this in some way??? > Probably not. I was making a WAG, but in hindsight, I don't see that that could have had any effect. Maybe Matt has an idea? Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 01:36:23 -0700 Subject: [MX V5.1-AX] CC Messages to postmaster From: eplan@kapsch.net Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <3917cba8$1@news.kapsch.co.at> Date: 9 May 2000 10:26:16 +0200 To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU I recently installed the patches for MX V5.1-A. I also have " Local delivery errors are CC'ed to local Postmaster." since day 1. Now with the new MX_LOCAL.EXE (which fixes the missing CC mails), I receive also --Successful delivery to: Address: xxx@kapsch.co.at Actual address: xxx Status: normal successful completion "xxx" is a local user instead of a mail-forward (as the majority of user is). Is this expected ? Is a "successful DSN" now treated as a LOCAL delivery error? TIA -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Tel. +43 1 81111-2651 Network and OpenVMS system manager Fax. +43 1 81111-888 FBFV/Information Services E-mail eplan@kapsch.net <<< KAPSCH AG Wagenseilgasse 1 PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLAN A-1121 VIENNA AUSTRIA "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 02:07:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [MX V5.1-AX] CC Messages to postmaster From: eplan@kapsch.net Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <3917d1d1$1@news.kapsch.co.at> Date: 9 May 2000 10:52:33 +0200 To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU In article <3917cba8$1@news.kapsch.co.at>, eplan@kapsch.net writes: >I recently installed the patches for MX V5.1-A. > >I also have "Local delivery errors are CC'ed to local Postmaster." since >day 1. Now with the new MX_LOCAL.EXE (which fixes the missing CC mails), >I receive also > > --Successful delivery to: > Address: xxx@kapsch.co.at > Actual address: xxx > Status: normal successful completion > >"xxx" is a local user instead of a mail-forward (as the majority of user is). >Is this expected ? Is a "successful DSN" now treated as a LOCAL delivery error? and I receive --Successful alias expansion for: Address: yyy@kapsch.co.at Actual address: yyy Status: normal successful completion "yyy" is a mail-forward-entry to a mailbox on another (exchange) mailserver. Additional question: Is there always a "alias expansion" DSN for users with forwardings (instead of successful delivery" DSN for users with local mailboxes ? Seems, I'm pretty new to mail ;-) TIA -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Tel. +43 1 81111-2651 Network and OpenVMS system manager Fax. +43 1 81111-888 FBFV/Information Services E-mail eplan@kapsch.net <<< KAPSCH AG Wagenseilgasse 1 PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLAN A-1121 VIENNA AUSTRIA "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 06:41:03 -0700 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 06:40:58 -0700 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009E9D09.FF6E2503.31@MadGoat.Com> Subject: RE: Any idea why the SMTP rejects this address??? >> >>Since you mention DNS, could my DNS have affected this in some way??? >> >Probably not. I was making a WAG, but in hindsight, I don't see that >that could have had any effect. > >Maybe Matt has an idea? A DNS problem wouldn't have caused the type of rejection you mentioned -- you'd see "due to invalid domain name" as the cause. Did you just recently add the source IP network to your INSIDE_NETWORKs list, and then do an MCP RESET to have the server pick up the new configuration? If so, how long after the reset did the rejections occur? The way the reset code works in the SMTP server, it is possible for there to be a lag between the time you request the reset and its actual occurrence -- generally, it's not very long, but if the server is particularly busy, it's possible it could take on the order of minutes rather than seconds. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 06:47:08 -0700 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 06:47:02 -0700 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009E9D0A.D898D7F1.31@MadGoat.Com> Subject: RE: [MX V5.1-AX] CC Messages to postmaster >I recently installed the patches for MX V5.1-A. > >I also have " Local delivery errors are CC'ed to local Postmaster." since >day 1. Now with the new MX_LOCAL.EXE (which fixes the missing CC mails), >I receive also > > --Successful delivery to: > Address: xxx@kapsch.co.at > Actual address: xxx > Status: normal successful completion > >"xxx" is a local user instead of a mail-forward (as the majority of user is). >Is this expected ? Is a "successful DSN" now treated as a LOCAL delivery error? The way the CC-to-Postmaster stuff is currently structured, you'll get CC'd on _any_ status report that is generated for a local delivery... so if the sender requested a DSN for a successful delivery, you'll get a copy of that as well as any error DSNs. I could change this behavior if people would rather just see the error DSNs. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 07:33:11 -0700 Subject: RE: [MX V5.1-AX] CC Messages to postmaster From: eplan@kapsch.net Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <391820b9$1@news.kapsch.co.at> Date: 9 May 2000 16:29:13 +0200 To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU In article <009E9D0A.D898D7F1.31@MadGoat.Com>, Matt Madison writes: >The way the CC-to-Postmaster stuff is currently structured, you'll get CC'd >on _any_ status report that is generated for a local delivery... so if the >sender requested a DSN for a successful delivery, you'll get a copy of that >as well as any error DSNs. > >I could change this behavior if people would rather just see the error DSNs. Please change it (to reduce the noise-signal-ratio). The best would be with a configurable option... btw: An exchange server (at least our servers here) requests DSN similar to "NOTIFY=DELAY,FAILURE,SUCCESS RETURN=FULL" (and our exchangeadmin told me very honestly that they can't change anything in this particular area). And do we also see only DSNs ? What if a server doesn't request a DSN ? Will we then see an error mail ? -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Tel. +43 1 81111-2651 Network and OpenVMS system manager Fax. +43 1 81111-888 FBFV/Information Services E-mail eplan@kapsch.net <<< KAPSCH AG Wagenseilgasse 1 PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLAN A-1121 VIENNA AUSTRIA "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 07:35:08 -0700 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 07:35:03 -0700 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009E9D11.8D648D0A.95@MadGoat.Com> Subject: RE: [MX V5.1-AX] CC Messages to postmaster >And do we also see only DSNs ? What if a server doesn't request a DSN ? >Will we then see an error mail ? I'll double-check that... it's possible that you won't get one if the sender requested DSN=NEVER. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:49:00 -0700 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000509104536.00766c38@dirmarketing.com> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 10:45:36 -0700 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Stephen Garrett Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: Any idea why the SMTP rejects this address??? In-Reply-To: <009E9D09.FF6E2503.31@MadGoat.Com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Matt. >Did you just recently add the source IP network to your INSIDE_NETWORKs >list, and then do an MCP RESET to have the server pick up the new >configuration? If so, how long after the reset did the rejections Nope. No address changes were introduced whatsoever. I simply did the reset after exhausting everything else I had tried. Kind of like holding the trigger down on a full auto 12G in a watermelon patch. (Others may call it the shotgun approach.) This has not happened since, and it never happened before. I just wish I knew what the heck caused it because I am :worried: that it is going to happen again. Seems like these things always come in threes. Steve At 06:40 AM 5/9/2000 -0700, Matt Madison wrote: >>> >>>Since you mention DNS, could my DNS have affected this in some way??? >>> >>Probably not. I was making a WAG, but in hindsight, I don't see that >>that could have had any effect. [snip] -- Stephen Garrett GPS steve@gpsnet.com (360) 896-2714 ICQ# 10776767 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 23:22:45 -0700 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000509231925.028671e0@dirmarketing.com> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 23:19:25 -0700 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Stephen Garrett Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Question about MGFTP In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.3.32.20000508161344.02713c8c@dirmarketing.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I think this is the correct list for questions on MGFTP? If not, please do not yell too hard.. 8^} Is there anyway to trigger a DCL command procedure _after_ a user has ended a FTP session using MGFTP server??? I am trying to come up with a way to trigger a program run once a user has uploaded file(s) to their allowed directories. The FTP client is really a program, and is done programatically, and I am trying to kick off a proc when the FTP client quits or a timeout occurs. Any ideas??? OpenVMS AXP 7.1 is the target system. TIA!!! Steve -- Stephen Garrett GPS steve@gpsnet.com (360) 896-2714 ICQ# 10776767 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 00:55:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 08:54:49 +0100 From: Chris Sharman Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: Chris.Sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Message-ID: <009E9DE5.DD0F8183.13@ccagroup.co.uk> Subject: RE: Question about MGFTP >Is there anyway to trigger a DCL command procedure _after_ a user has >ended a FTP session using MGFTP server??? I think the server end runs madgoat_root:[com]ftp_server.com, & probably some login scripts as well, so yes, you can probably edit either ftp_server.com, or define a logout symbol in the login to do what you want. Chris _______________________________________________________________________ Chris.Sharman@CCAgroup.co.uk http://www.ccastat.demon.co.uk/ CCA Stationery Ltd, Eastway, Fulwood, Preston, Lancashire, PR2 9WS. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 08:33:00 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 15:32:58 GMT From: System Manager Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009E9E1D.7B6B3822.1@mailgate.spotimage.fr> Subject: MX041/MLF question hi, when someone write to a semi-public list without subscribing, he/she receive a standart error message saying Error in delivery to mailing list My-List: access denied; send subscription requests to My-List-Request@host.domain is it possible to customize the error text, ie sending a specified file ? TIA, Pierre. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:12:03 -0700 Message-ID: <806440E16578D31186A7009027B0FD9C208E98@KONG> From: "Jeffrey S. Jalbert" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: "'MX-List@MadGoat.com'" Subject: Manipulating headeer fields Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:15:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am a bit new to all this so this may be a naive question... We are setting up an MX list server on a machine that we want to be inside of our firewall. That means that we have to introduce some relay activities into the process. The mail first comes in to our external MX router running worldmail. It then is relayed to the internal MX router running Exchange. Exchange then forwards it to the other internal machine running MX where it is processed. We want replies to go to the list and we want no specific node names to apper anywhere. O.K. Everything looks o.k. on outgoing headers. The reply-to header is properly addressed with no node names in it. However, the to header is manipulated by Exchange to include the nodename of the machine doing the MX work. We have found at least one mailer [from digital] which seems to use the "To:" header as a reply-to address. It may not be right, but it is done. We already plan to use a couple of rewrite rules to cause all messages to pass through a junk mail filter that we will write. The rewrite rules we will use are below (testlist is just a place holder for the moment): define rewrite "" "" define rewrite "" "" and we will process the messages with code within site_deliver.com and deliver them back to I suspect that it is the second rewrite rule that is doing the "To:" stuff. My question is "How we can manipulate the "To:" header to remove the node name from it?" It seems to me that whatever we do we have to get the message back to the list and that will require the local node name. Is there another way to get the message back to the MLF agent? TIA Jeff Jalbert JCC Consulting, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 10:00:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:00:09 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009E9F92.15749650.3@goat.process.com> Subject: RE: MX041/MLF question System Manager writes: > >hi, > >when someone write to a semi-public list without subscribing, he/she receive a standart error message saying > >Error in delivery to mailing list My-List: > access denied; send subscription requests to My-List-Request@host.domain > >is it possible to customize the error text, ie sending a specified file ? > Not as it is. But you could always modify the sources to do what you want. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 10:03:01 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:02:54 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009E9F92.780AEF2B.5@goat.process.com> Subject: RE: Manipulating headeer fields "Jeffrey S. Jalbert" writes: > >I suspect that it is the second rewrite rule that is doing the "To:" >stuff. > The rewrite rules only affect the envelope addresses (RCPT TO:), not the RFC822 headers (To:). Turning on SMTP and/or Router debugging will show you exactly what's happening with the addresses when. >My question is "How we can manipulate the "To:" header to remove the node >name from it?" It seems to me that whatever we do we have to get the >message back to the list and that will require the local node name. Is >there another way to get the message back to the MLF agent? > Since you're going to run all the mail through your own filter, simply have your filter copy the file, looking for the To: line, and removing the node name as it copies the file. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 08:04:01 -0700 Message-ID: <000801bfbcec$eecbca60$2c0110ac@sysman-home.deltatel.ru> From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Subject: MX DIGEST support Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 19:07:16 +0400 Hi All! Is there someone who can provide instruction to introducing DIGEST support step by step ? TIA. + C U, SysMan at DLS ...................................................+ http://www.radiusvms.com | Cel: +7 (901) 971-3222 http://www.levitte.org/~rlaishev | Fax: +7 (812) 115-1035 + Flying by Su-27........................................ Frying on VMS + ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 08:56:19 -0700 Sender: goathunter@PROCESS.COM Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 10:56:09 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009EA052.4F1772F4.1@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MX DIGEST support "Ruslan R. Laishev" writes: > >Hi All! > Is there someone who can provide instruction to introducing DIGEST >support step by step ? > Did you read the README in the MX-DIGEST ZIP file? It tells you everything you need to know. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 09:22:25 -0700 Message-ID: <391D8210.395A5E0B@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU> Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 20:25:52 +0400 From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: MX DIGEST support References: <009EA052.4F1772F4.1@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hunter Goatley wrote: > > "Ruslan R. Laishev" writes: > > > >Hi All! > > Is there someone who can provide instruction to introducing DIGEST > >support step by step ? > > > Did you read the README in the MX-DIGEST ZIP file? It tells you > everything you need to know. Sure, I readed docs. But! 1) What exactly do the MCP ADD|MOD MAIL-LIST /DIGEST? 2) Why mail with ADD /NOTIFY /DIGEST sent from owner address do nothing (no entry in mail-list, no notification ,no errors to send-error address)? 3) Why subscribers in mail-list with DIGEST option have not received every mail from mail-list but only digest (is produced by MX-DIGEST batch)? > > Hunter > ------ > Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com > http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ -- Regards. +.....................pure personal opinion..........................+ Free & commercial software for ISP -> HTTP://WWW.RadiusVMS.COM Cel:+7 (901) 971-3222, Fax:+7 (812) 115-1035 +............ Frying only on VMS, flying only by Su-27 .............+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 09:54:14 -0700 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 09:54:09 -0700 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009EA049.A5934C65.4@MadGoat.Com> Subject: Re: MX DIGEST support >> > Is there someone who can provide instruction to introducing DIGEST >> >support step by step ? >> > >> Did you read the README in the MX-DIGEST ZIP file? It tells you >> everything you need to know. > > Sure, I readed docs. But! > 1) What exactly do the MCP ADD|MOD MAIL-LIST /DIGEST? This allows users to subscribe with the DIGEST option. > 2) Why mail with ADD /NOTIFY /DIGEST sent from owner >address do nothing (no entry in mail-list, no notification ,no errors to >send-error address)? Try putting the qualifiers _before_ the subscriber's address. > 3) Why subscribers in mail-list with DIGEST option have not received >every mail from mail-list but only digest (is produced by MX-DIGEST >batch)? That's the way it's supposed to work. If they have the DIGEST option set, it means they want to receive the list digest, rather than every posting. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 09:59:58 -0700 Message-ID: <391D8ADD.56450EDC@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU> Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 21:03:25 +0400 From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: MX DIGEST support References: <009EA049.A5934C65.4@MadGoat.Com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matt Madison wrote: > > >> > Is there someone who can provide instruction to introducing DIGEST > >> >support step by step ? > >> > > >> Did you read the README in the MX-DIGEST ZIP file? It tells you > >> everything you need to know. > > > > Sure, I readed docs. But! > > 1) What exactly do the MCP ADD|MOD MAIL-LIST /DIGEST? > > This allows users to subscribe with the DIGEST option. Ok. > > > 2) Why mail with ADD /NOTIFY /DIGEST sent from owner > >address do nothing (no entry in mail-list, no notification ,no errors to > >send-error address)? > > Try putting the qualifiers _before_ the subscriber's address. Ok. It works. > > > 3) Why subscribers in mail-list with DIGEST option have not received > >every mail from mail-list but only digest (is produced by MX-DIGEST > >batch)? > > That's the way it's supposed to work. If they have the DIGEST option > set, it means they want to receive the list digest, rather than every > posting. Ok. Thanks. > > -Matt > > -- > Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA > madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com -- Regards. +.....................pure personal opinion..........................+ Free & commercial software for ISP -> HTTP://WWW.RadiusVMS.COM Cel:+7 (901) 971-3222, Fax:+7 (812) 115-1035 +............ Frying only on VMS, flying only by Su-27 .............+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 03:30:56 -0700 Return-Path: Subject: RE: Problem with LOCAL agent ? From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <391fd063$1@news.kapsch.co.at> Date: 15 May 2000 12:24:35 +0200 To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU In article <009E8640.E4F1BB6B.3@MadGoat.Com>, Matt Madison writes: >>I got a complaint from my boss, that his mail to me came back (now for the >>second time within a few weeks) within seconds with the error message >> >> (MAIL.MAI) file currently locked by another user >> >>I was so far not able to reproduce the problem (and my boss deleted the error >>mail and resent his mail) and so far can only guess: I now have a DSN one, --Failed delivery to: Address: eplan@kapsch.net Actual address: EPLAN Status: file access conflict >>It seems, that I read a couple of mail (with VMSmail), deleted them (move >>them to wastebasket folder) and finally exited (with AUTOPURGE enabled). >>So, the mailfile was locked for a couple of seconds during the implicit PURGE. It's now double checked. This is the reason. >>BUT: IIRC, this situation should be handled properly by the LOCAL agent. > >Actually, it should be handled by VMS MAIL, since that is what coordinates >access to your mail file. Otherwise, ordinary SENDs in VMS MAIL would >fail in the same way. It is OpenVMS V7.1 (Alpha&VAX) with almost all patches, now NETLIB V2.2G, MX V5.1-A (with both ECOs). And I can't reproduce it with VMSmail. But if I could it sometimes, it doesn't mind. MX should handle this case correct, though. >>There is a retry interval (does it really only apply to DECnet delivery ?) >>and there is a number of retries (which gives 96*0.5hours = 2days) > >It depends on how VMS MAIL signals the error; the Local agent retries only >for certain specific errors that it knows are OK to retry. In previous times (don't ask what all has changed the last years) I never had this happen. But obviously I can't doublecheck now. Now it happens for the umpteenth time this year and I heard of over ten cases so far. So please consider a fix to this. >[...] >>As you can see, Local delivery errors should be copied to me, also. >>So far, I received only very few mails because of this (and the last one >>more than a year ago). > >The CC-to-postmaster feature accidentally disappeared in V5.1; there is >an ECO for V5.1-A that restores that feature. Ok. This is (partly ?) solved. Now I run the current version of MX/NETLIB. But now I receive - as I wrote - successful DSN, too (can't remember, that I received them in the last years), _and_ I don't receive the error message mail for this unsuccessful delivery attempt (because of file locked because of mailpurge). So, the CC to postmaster feature doesn't help me, hurts me and it seems, I have to turn it off again. Frustrating. -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Tel. +43 1 81111-2651 Network and OpenVMS system manager Fax. +43 1 81111-888 FBFV/Information Services E-mail eplan@kapsch.net <<< KAPSCH AG Wagenseilgasse 1 PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLAN A-1121 VIENNA AUSTRIA "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 09:24:44 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:24:40 GMT From: System Manager Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009EA212.88DE9C8A.1@mailgate.spotimage.fr> Subject: MX042/MLF question (another one) hi again, is there a way to track (un)subscritions on a list, in another way than doing REVIEW (or reading the list users file) ? TIA, Pierre. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 09:35:03 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 11:34:56 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <000515113456.202000be@goatley.com> Subject: RE: MX042/MLF question (another one) System Manager writes: > >hi again, > >is there a way to track (un)subscritions on a list, in another way than doing >REVIEW (or reading the list users file) ? > The only other way is to set the list so they can't signoff automatically; all such requests would go to you. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:07:14 -0700 Message-ID: <003801bfbf6a$70733420$2c0110ac@sysman-home.deltatel.ru> From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Subject: MX Rewrite rules Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 23:10:44 +0400 Hi All! I have next rewrite rules: <{user}@zztop.net> => => I'm need to reroute all mails to sysman@blackhole.net exclude mails for zyzop, but all mails is rerouted to the SysMan@blackhole.net. What is order of looking up of rewrite rulez ? + C U, SysMan at DLS ...................................................+ http://www.radiusvms.com | Cel: +7 (901) 971-3222 http://www.levitte.org/~rlaishev | Fax: +7 (812) 115-1035 + Flying by Su-27........................................ Frying on VMS + ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:15:34 -0700 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:15:30 -0700 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009EA2B8.E3E0643B.4@MadGoat.Com> Subject: RE: MX Rewrite rules >Hi All! > I have next rewrite rules: > <{user}@zztop.net> => > => > > I'm need to reroute all mails to sysman@blackhole.net exclude mails for >zyzop, but all mails is rerouted to the SysMan@blackhole.net. What is order >of looking up of rewrite rulez ? They are processed in the order you define them. In this case, deleting them and re-adding them in the opposite order should take care of the problem. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:17:51 -0700 Message-ID: <004301bfbf6b$edf31540$2c0110ac@sysman-home.deltatel.ru> From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Subject: Re: MX Rewrite rules Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 23:21:24 +0400 Thanks Matt! >>Hi All! >> I have next rewrite rules: >> <{user}@zztop.net> => >> => >> >> I'm need to reroute all mails to sysman@blackhole.net exclude mails for >>zyzop, but all mails is rerouted to the SysMan@blackhole.net. What is order >>of looking up of rewrite rulez ? > >They are processed in the order you define them. In this case, deleting >them and re-adding them in the opposite order should take care of the problem. > >-Matt > >-- >Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA >madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 02:13:59 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 10:13:29 +0100 From: Chris Sharman Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: Martin.Smith@ccagroup.co.uk, Chris.Sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Message-ID: <009EA371.02FDD3D7.6@ccagroup.co.uk> Subject: Company-wide 'disclaimer' signatures Is it possible to apply a standard company signature to all outgoing emails ? We see how to do it to VMSmail, but how about mail originating on a PC/Mac ? OpenVMS Alpha 7.1, MX 5.0, IUPOP. While I'm asking questions, any way to field (PC) viruses centrally ? Perhaps quarantine any suspect (.vbs) attachments ? Thanks, Chris _______________________________________________________________________ Chris.Sharman@CCAgroup.co.uk http://www.ccastat.demon.co.uk/ CCA Stationery Ltd, Eastway, Fulwood, Preston, Lancashire, PR2 9WS. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 09:48:36 -0700 Message-ID: <053501bfc1b1$f97f39a0$c68387c0@ulm.edu> From: "Chance Eppinette" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: References: <5488d0c6a1b5d5baaac333fb5225c780392548aa@merrimack.edu> Subject: Re: Rejection Statement Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 11:47:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I am running MX V5.1-X I have tried to implement this rejection rule today to help fight off the VBS viruses. But the rule is not being used. Is there any other rejman logs to check besides the opcom messaging. I have another rejection for sender_pat that works fine. This is the first time I have used rejman, but I can't find that I have left out anything. Thanks, Chance Eppinette Technology Support Manager Computing Center 318-342-5021 fax: 318-342-5018 ----- Original Message ----- From: "rand hall" To: Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 8:59 AM Subject: RE: Rejection Statement > > > Has anyone developed a rejection statement for REJMAN to block the new > > VBS/Newlove worm? > > This will reject all VBS attachments: > > $ rejman add rej/header "*.VBS*" ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 14:39:27 -0700 Return-Path: From: bleau@umtof.umd.edu (Lawrence Bleau) Subject: How to disable relay on MX 4.2? Date: 19 May 2000 20:00:15 GMT Message-ID: <8g46gf$te7$1@hecate.umd.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU Hello. I'm running MX 4.2 on OpenVMS AXP 7.1-2. I noticed a problem today: someoone appears to be using my system to send messages to folks at msn.com, spamming them. I dislike my system being used for this and would like to put a stop to it. Is this problem caused by the relay feature I've heard about? If so, is there a way to disable it? (without upgrading to MX 5.0 and paying a fee, that is) What are potential side effects, if any, of disabling the relay feature on my users? Is there a FAQ on this? Thanks. Lawrence Bleau University of Maryland Physics Dept., Space Physics Group 301-405-6223 bleau@umtof.umd.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 14:42:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 16:42:24 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: bleau@umtof.umd.edu Message-ID: <000519164224.20200720@goatley.com> Subject: RE: How to disable relay on MX 4.2? bleau@umtof.umd.edu (Lawrence Bleau) writes: > >Hello. I'm running MX 4.2 on OpenVMS AXP 7.1-2. I noticed a problem today: >someoone appears to be using my system to send messages to folks at msn.com, >spamming them. I dislike my system being used for this and would like to put a >stop to it. > >Is this problem caused by the relay feature I've heard about? > Well, it's called "relaying," and it's allowed by MX V4.2. A source kit was released a couple of months ago that contains code that will add anti-relay to MX V4.2, but you have to compile it yourself. Look on ftp.madgoat.com in [.MX.MX042]. If you don't want to go to the trouble, I'd recommend upgrading to 5.0, as it has lots of other features you might find useful, including anti-spam features for incoming mail. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 14:43:39 -0700 Message-ID: <3925B665.C7522E05@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU> Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 01:47:17 +0400 From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: How to disable relay on MX 4.2? References: <8g46gf$te7$1@hecate.umd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lawrence Bleau wrote: > > Hello. I'm running MX 4.2 on OpenVMS AXP 7.1-2. I noticed a problem today: > someoone appears to be using my system to send messages to folks at msn.com, > spamming them. I dislike my system being used for this and would like to put a > stop to it. See some anti-spam updates for MX 4.2 on MadGoat site. > > Is this problem caused by the relay feature I've heard about? Yes. > > If so, is there a way to disable it? (without upgrading to MX 5.0 and paying a > fee, that is) MX 5.x is not expensive, in the same time have had the fine functionality, MX is ranked by ORBS as number one SMTP package. > > What are potential side effects, if any, of disabling the relay feature on my > users? Your users will not get spam :-) > > Is there a FAQ on this? > > Thanks. > > Lawrence Bleau > University of Maryland > Physics Dept., Space Physics Group > 301-405-6223 > bleau@umtof.umd.edu -- Regards. +.....................pure personal opinion..........................+ Free & commercial software for ISP -> HTTP://WWW.RadiusVMS.COM Cel:+7 (901) 971-3222, Fax:+7 (812) 115-1035 +............ Frying only on VMS, flying only by Su-27 .............+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 10:11:08 -0700 Message-ID: <806440E16578D31186A7009027B0FD9C208F04@KONG> From: "Jeffrey S. Jalbert" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: "'MX-List@MadGoat.com'" Subject: Header based rejections Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:10:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am looking at rejecting messages sent to a list based on header content such as "Subject:*Auto-Reply*" Since that will generate loops in the mail process. This works just fine and such messages actually never make it to the list. However, the result of doing this with REJMAN is that the MX SMTP server actually sends a reject message back to the sender and, at least for us, those messages get put into the inbox of the mail system administrator. I can envision this generating all kinds of messy situations with remote postmasters. Is there any way to direct the SMTP server to just swallow messages that are to be rejected, perhaps placing them in some directory where they could be reivewed instead signaling a rejection? Thanks Jeff Jalbert ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:15:06 -0700 Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:15:06 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <000522151506.202000be@goatley.com> Subject: RE: Header based rejections "Jeffrey S. Jalbert" writes: > >Is there any way to direct the SMTP server to just swallow messages that are to >be rejected, perhaps placing them in some directory where they could be >reivewed instead signaling a rejection? > Not currently.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 00:39:41 -0700 Message-ID: <392A369B.8E79E183@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 11:43:23 +0400 From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: How about a new MX release, let's start the wish/feature list References: <009E81F9.73802496.1@MadGoat.Com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Matt! Did you get a chance ? Matt Madison wrote: > > >In article <38EA3E7D.5E6A882E@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU>, "Ruslan R. Laishev" writes: > >> What new features you mean? Why you decide that MX is dying? > > > >I don't like to discuss, why MX will or will not die. > >Just like, I don't like to discuss, why VMS will or will not die. > >MX depends on VMS and both will get into troubles, when/if development stops. > > Development on MX may go slowly -- Hunter and I both have day jobs, which > keep us pretty busy, after all -- but it is not dying. > > >I also like to avoid collecting a list of features, when/because Matt and/or > >Hunter already did it the last years. But if I'm forced to, ok, then I bite. > > I do have a wish-list that I've been keeping. I will try and put together > a summary of what I have so far and post it either on the mailing list or > our web site. > > Incidentally, this year marks the 10th anniversary of the first public > release of MX. I don't have the exact date, but it was in the latter > half of 1990. > > -Matt > > -- > Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA > madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com -- Regards. +.....................pure personal opinion..........................+ Free & commercial software for ISP -> HTTP://WWW.RadiusVMS.COM Cel:+7 (901) 971-3222, Fax:+7 (812) 115-1035 +............ Frying only on VMS, flying only by Su-27 .............+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:04:31 -0700 Message-ID: <000701bfc5d4$f69d3620$2c0110ac@sysman-home.deltatel.ru> From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Subject: MCP STAT/SHUT Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 03:08:20 +0400 Hi Matt! Is there way to execute these commands w/o reading of the configuration file ? + C U, SysMan at DLS ...................................................+ http://www.radiusvms.com | Cel: +7 (901) 971-3222 http://www.levitte.org/~rlaishev | Fax: +7 (812) 115-1035 + Flying by Su-27........................................ Frying on VMS + ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 03:43:26 -0700 Return-Path: Subject: Re: MCP STAT/SHUT From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <392d0309$1@news.kapsch.co.at> Date: 25 May 2000 12:40:09 +0200 To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU In article <000701bfc5d4$f69d3620$2c0110ac@sysman-home.deltatel.ru>, "Ruslan R. Laishev" writes: >Is there way to execute these commands w/o reading of the configuration file ? What is the problem or the goal of this ? Or what is wrong with $ MCP/FILE=NL: [STATUS|SHUTDOWN|...] -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Tel. +43 1 81111-2651 Network and OpenVMS system manager Fax. +43 1 81111-888 FBFV/Information Services E-mail eplan@kapsch.net <<< KAPSCH AG Wagenseilgasse 1 PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLAN A-1121 VIENNA AUSTRIA "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 03:44:54 -0700 Message-ID: <392D03DF.76E3F405@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 14:43:43 +0400 From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: MCP STAT/SHUT References: <392d0309$1@news.kapsch.co.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote: > > In article <000701bfc5d4$f69d3620$2c0110ac@sysman-home.deltatel.ru>, "Ruslan R. Laishev" writes: > >Is there way to execute these commands w/o reading of the configuration file ? > > What is the problem or the goal of this ? The problem is very long time of reaction due high system load. > > Or what is wrong with > > $ MCP/FILE=NL: [STATUS|SHUTDOWN|...] Hmmm... It' documented way ? Thanks. > > -- > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Tel. +43 1 81111-2651 > Network and OpenVMS system manager Fax. +43 1 81111-888 > FBFV/Information Services E-mail eplan@kapsch.net > <<< KAPSCH AG Wagenseilgasse 1 PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLAN > A-1121 VIENNA AUSTRIA "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" > "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998 -- Cheers, +OpenVMS [Sys|Net] HardWorker........................................+ Russia,Delta Telecom Inc, Cel: +7 (901) 971-3222 191119,St.Petersburg,Transportny per. 3 116-3222 Fax: +7 (812) 115-1035 +http://www.levitte.org/~rlaishev/ .......... SysMan rides HailStorm + ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 03:53:45 -0700 Return-Path: Subject: Re: How to disable relay on MX 4.2? From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <392d0181$1@news.kapsch.co.at> Date: 25 May 2000 12:33:37 +0200 To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU In article <8g42ej$jns$1@hecate.umd.edu>, bleau@umtof.umd.edu (Lawrence Bleau) writes: >Hello. I'm running MX 4.2 on OpenVMS AXP 7.1-2. I noticed a problem today: >someoone appears to be using my system to send messages to folks at msn.com, >spamming them. I dislike my system being used for this and would like to put a >stop to it. Good. But you should no only dislike it. You must fight against it, or you will be seen as a SPAMmer or SPAMfriend yourself and you and all of your mails will be blocked by others. And this is surely not what you can live with for a longer time. >Is this problem caused by the relay feature I've heard about? Yes. By unconditionally SMTP relaying. But to add the condition if and when to relay is exactly the problem. >If so, is there a way to disable it? (without upgrading to MX 5.0 and paying a >fee, that is) 1) You can disable SMTP relaying on your MX without problems. But then you can't relay your own mail, too. If this is ok, then MCP>SET SMTP/NORELAY_ALLOWED 2) You can keep with MX freeware (means V4) and add some Anti-SPAM yourself. Some modules can be found on MADGOATS server(s). You need programming experience and a programming environment (compiler[s], debugger). 3) You can upgrade to MX commercial (means V5) and use the built-in Anti-SPAM features. 4) You can discard MX and use the Anti-SPAM features of the SMTP servers in the current versions of the TCP/IP stack you might already have (TCPIP V5, TCPware V5.4, ...) I recommend 3 or 4 >What are potential side effects, if any, of disabling the relay feature on my >users? If you only have one MX SMTP server, and your customers are using native mailclients (VMSmail, DECWmail, what else ?) on this server, then there is no problem with disabling the SMTP relaying. If your customers use NETSCAPE, MOZILLA (both even when running on the same MX SMTP server), EUDORA, OE, Outlook or similar IMAP4/POP3 mailclients, then this clients needs to send the mails out directly to the destination server (eg. internet) or they need an relaying SMTP server to do this for them. But there is no must, that this (internal) relaying SMTP server for outgoing mails is the same mailserver as the (nonrelaying) server for the incoming (from the internet) mails. So, it depends, what servers do you have in your net, where the mailboxes resides and what effort you want to make (money, time, training, ...). -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Tel. +43 1 81111-2651 Network and OpenVMS system manager Fax. +43 1 81111-888 FBFV/Information Services E-mail eplan@kapsch.net <<< KAPSCH AG Wagenseilgasse 1 PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLAN A-1121 VIENNA AUSTRIA "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 05:29:15 -0700 Return-Path: Subject: Re: MCP STAT/SHUT From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <392d1b47@news.kapsch.co.at> Date: 25 May 2000 14:23:35 +0200 To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU In article <392D03DF.76E3F405@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU>, "Ruslan R. Laishev" writes: >Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote: >> $ MCP/FILE=NL: [STATUS|SHUTDOWN|...] > Hmmm... It' documented way ? You mean the /FILE qualifier ? MX_DOC:MX_INSTALL_GUIDE.TXT chapter 1.9 -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Tel. +43 1 81111-2651 Network and OpenVMS system manager Fax. +43 1 81111-888 FBFV/Information Services E-mail eplan@kapsch.net <<< KAPSCH AG Wagenseilgasse 1 PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLAN A-1121 VIENNA AUSTRIA "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 06:06:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 08:06:15 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009EA9A8.8FD285FE.7@goat.process.com> Subject: Re: MCP STAT/SHUT eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) writes: > >In article <392D03DF.76E3F405@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU>, "Ruslan R. Laishev" writes: >>Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote: >>> $ MCP/FILE=NL: [STATUS|SHUTDOWN|...] >> Hmmm... It' documented way ? > >You mean the /FILE qualifier ? > >MX_DOC:MX_INSTALL_GUIDE.TXT chapter 1.9 > And for STATUS and SHUTDOWN and QUEUE SHOW and some others, it's perfectly fine to do /NOFILE (or /FILE=NL:) on the MCP command. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 06:28:50 -0700 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 06:28:46 -0700 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009EA99A.F16F89EE.4@MadGoat.Com> Subject: Re: MCP STAT/SHUT >>Is there way to execute these commands w/o reading of the configuration file ? > >What is the problem or the goal of this ? > >Or what is wrong with > > $ MCP/FILE=NL: [STATUS|SHUTDOWN|...] You can also use /NOFILE instead of /FILE=NL:. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 07:26:29 -0700 Message-ID: <392D37D0.9CF027DF@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 18:25:20 +0400 From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: MCP STAT/SHUT References: <392d1b47@news.kapsch.co.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter, Matt, Hunter - Thanks. Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote: > > In article <392D03DF.76E3F405@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU>, "Ruslan R. Laishev" writes: > >Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote: > >> $ MCP/FILE=NL: [STATUS|SHUTDOWN|...] > > Hmmm... It' documented way ? > > You mean the /FILE qualifier ? > > MX_DOC:MX_INSTALL_GUIDE.TXT chapter 1.9 > > -- > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Tel. +43 1 81111-2651 > Network and OpenVMS system manager Fax. +43 1 81111-888 > FBFV/Information Services E-mail eplan@kapsch.net > <<< KAPSCH AG Wagenseilgasse 1 PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLAN > A-1121 VIENNA AUSTRIA "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" > "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998 -- Cheers, +OpenVMS [Sys|Net] HardWorker........................................+ Russia,Delta Telecom Inc, Cel: +7 (901) 971-3222 191119,St.Petersburg,Transportny per. 3 116-3222 Fax: +7 (812) 115-1035 +http://www.levitte.org/~rlaishev/ .......... SysMan rides HailStorm + ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 12:02:25 -0700 Message-ID: <806440E16578D31186A7009027B0FD9C29BCF1@KONG> From: "Daniel F. Stoner" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: "'mx-list@madgoat.com'" Subject: Autoreplies going to original sender Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 15:02:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, We have a filter set up to catch messages generated from Out of Office or AutoReply mechanisms. This works well most of the time and the messages do not get sent to the entire list. However, it seems that some AutoReply mechanisms do not use the Reply-To: header and are using the From: header. This causes the AutoReply messages to get sent back to the original list poster. We would like for nobody to receive the AutoReply messages. I believe that one solution to the problem is to insert a Sender: header. The Sender: header is apparently used in most cases when the software chooses not to use the Reply-To: header. By inserting a Sender: header, more of the AutoReply messages will go back to the list and will then get caught by our SPAM filter. We've seen the header rewriting stuff in the MX documentation, but weren't sure how to insert a new Sender: header into every message sent to the list. Alternatively, are there any other solutions to the AutoReply problem? Thanks, Dan Stoner JCC Consulting, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 12:46:47 -0700 Message-ID: <014c01bfc74a$7340d800$c68387c0@ulm.edu> From: "Chance Eppinette" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Subject: Forwarding from one system to another. Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 14:41:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0149_01BFC720.8A2F4DA0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0149_01BFC720.8A2F4DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Is there a way to have the Message Exchange (MX) service forward an = incoming message that is destined for someone at this domain to another = local server? Example, a message comes in as somebody@domain.name; The = host serving MX is the default host to receive domain destined emails. = In the event that the mailbox for "somebody" does not exist on the MX = host, MX will normally return the message to the sender. Instead of = that method, can MX send the message to another host in the same = destination domain that may contain the mailbox for "somebody". Thanks for any info. Chance Eppinette Technology Support Manager Computing Center 318-342-5021 fax: 318-342-5018 ------=_NextPart_000_0149_01BFC720.8A2F4DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
 
Is there a way to have the Message = Exchange (MX)=20 service forward an incoming message that is destined for someone at this = domain=20 to another local server?  Example, a message comes in as somebody@domain.name; The host=20 serving MX is the default host to receive domain destined=20 emails.  In the event that the mailbox for "somebody" does not = exist on the=20 MX host, MX will normally return the message to the sender.  = Instead of=20 that method, can MX send the message to another host in the same = destination=20 domain that may contain the mailbox for "somebody".
 
Thanks for any info.
 
Chance Eppinette
Technology Support=20 Manager
Computing Center
318-342-5021
fax:=20 318-342-5018
------=_NextPart_000_0149_01BFC720.8A2F4DA0-- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 12:51:59 -0700 Message-ID: <392ED6CB.D6F18B5E@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 23:55:55 +0400 From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: Forwarding from one system to another. References: <014c01bfc74a$7340d800$c68387c0@ulm.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MCP DEFINE PATH DOM.COM SMTP /ROUTE=host.dom.com MCP> help define path DEFINE PATH The DEFINE PATH command is used to map a domain to a delivery path. Format: DEFINE PATH domain-pat path-name Additional information available: Qualifiers /ROUTE domain-pat path-name > Chance Eppinette wrote: > > Hello, > > Is there a way to have the Message Exchange (MX) service forward an > incoming message that is destined for someone at this domain to > another local server? Example, a message comes in as > somebody@domain.name; The host serving MX is the default host to > receive domain destined emails. In the event that the mailbox for > "somebody" does not exist on the MX host, MX will normally return the > message to the sender. Instead of that method, can MX send the > message to another host in the same destination domain that may > contain the mailbox for "somebody". > > Thanks for any info. > > Chance Eppinette > Technology Support Manager > Computing Center > 318-342-5021 > fax: 318-342-5018 -- Regards. +.....................pure personal opinion..........................+ Free & commercial software for ISP -> HTTP://WWW.RadiusVMS.COM Cel:+7 (901) 971-3222, Fax:+7 (812) 115-1035 +............ Frying only on VMS, flying only by Su-27 .............+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 05:55:06 -0700 Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: "Kurt A. Schumacher" To: Subject: RE: Forwarding from one system to another. Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 14:55:48 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01BFC7EB.A4AA7620" In-Reply-To: <014c01bfc74a$7340d800$c68387c0@ulm.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01BFC7EB.A4AA7620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, If you don't want to forward _all_ mails sent to @domain.name (by using DEFINE PATH), I suggest you to add rewrite rules for each non local mailbox: e.g. MCP> DEFINE REWRITE "" "" -Kurt. -----Original Message----- From: Chance Eppinette [mailto:eppinette@ulm.edu] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 9:42 PM To: mx-list@madgoat.com Subject: Forwarding from one system to another. Hello, Is there a way to have the Message Exchange (MX) service forward an incoming message that is destined for someone at this domain to another local server? Example, a message comes in as somebody@domain.name; The host serving MX is the default host to receive domain destined emails. In the event that the mailbox for "somebody" does not exist on the MX host, MX will normally return the message to the sender. Instead of that method, can MX send the message to another host in the same destination domain that may contain the mailbox for "somebody". Thanks for any info. Chance Eppinette Technology Support Manager Computing Center 318-342-5021 fax: 318-342-5018 ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01BFC7EB.A4AA7620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

If you don't want to forward _all_ mails sent to=20 @domain.name (by using DEFINE=20 PATH), I suggest you = to add=20 rewrite rules for each non local mailbox:

e.g.

MCP> DEFINE REWRITE "<mailbox@domain.name>"=20 "<alternatembx@excite.com>"

-Kurt.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chance Eppinette=20 [mailto:eppinette@ulm.edu]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 9:42=20 PM
To: mx-list@madgoat.com
Subject: Forwarding = from one=20 system to another.

Hello,
 
Is there a way to have the Message = Exchange (MX)=20 service forward an incoming message that is destined for someone at = this=20 domain to another local server?  Example, a message comes in as = somebody@domain.name; The = host=20 serving MX is the default host to receive domain destined=20 emails.  In the event that the mailbox for "somebody" does not = exist on=20 the MX host, MX will normally return the message to the sender.  = Instead=20 of that method, can MX send the message to another host in the same=20 destination domain that may contain the mailbox for = "somebody".
 
Thanks for any info.
 
Chance Eppinette
Technology = Support=20 Manager
Computing Center
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------=_NextPart_000_0060_01BFC7EB.A4AA7620-- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 12:38:23 -0700 Sender: goathunter@PROCESS.COM Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 14:38:12 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009EAB71.A5BEAFE9.13@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Forwarding from one system to another. "Kurt A. Schumacher" writes: > >If you don't want to forward _all_ mails sent to @domain.name (by using >DEFINE PATH), I suggest you to add rewrite rules for each non local mailbox: > >e.g. > >MCP> DEFINE REWRITE "" "" > Another way would be to use the MX_ALIAS software in the CONTRIB directory and use that to do to the rerouting. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/