Archive-Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:41:21 -0800 From: "Chance Eppinette" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Subject: Backup copy of all messages Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 19:36:52 -0600 Message-ID: <000001c198ae$1d9bdd50$64001e0a@spock> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1987B.D3016D50" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1987B.D3016D50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, This question may have gone around the list in the past, but I was not able to access the web archives tonight. Anyway, I was looking for a way to make a copy of all email that passes thru MX on my system and store the messages outside of the VMS user account. That way I could make a backup of all email and place onto a tape archive on a daily or weekly basis. Our normal backup routine will not catch every message that lands into the user accounts if they receive-read-delete messages within a 24-hour period prior to the next backup cycle. Or is there a way to capture email based on specific criteria and be able to save a backup copy of only those messages. This capability is necessary due to some legal issues that the University may be pulled into in the future. I'm running MX V5.2-X on Process Software MultiNet V4.1 Rev A-X, AlphaServer 2100 4/200, OpenVMS AXP V7.2-1 Any suggestion is appreciated. Chance Eppinette University of Louisiana at Monroe Computing Center 318-342-5021 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1987B.D3016D50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

 

This question may have gone around the list in the = past, but I was not able to access the web archives = tonight.

 

Anyway, I was looking for a way to make a copy of all = email that passes thru MX on my system and store the = messages

outside= of the VMS user account.  That way I could = make a backup of all email and place onto a tape archive on a daily or weekly = basis.  Our normal backup routine will = not catch every message that lands into the user accounts if they = receive-read-delete messages within a 24-hour period prior to the next backup = cycle.

 

Or is there a way to capture email based on specific criteria and be able to save a backup copy of only those = messages.

 

This capability is necessary due to some legal issues = that the University may be pulled into in the = future.

 

I’m running MX V5.2-X on Process Software MultiNet V4.1 Rev A-X, AlphaServer 2100 4/200, OpenVMS AXP = V7.2-1

 

Any suggestion is = appreciated.

 

Chance Eppinette

University of = Louisiana at = Monroe

Computing Center

318-342-5021

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1987B.D3016D50-- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 07:58:31 -0800 Message-ID: <043a01c19926$497eac90$76041c7e@si.com> From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: References: <000001c198ae$1d9bdd50$64001e0a@spock> Subject: Re: Backup copy of all messages Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:57:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Anyway, I was looking for a way to make a copy of all email that passes thru MX on my system and store the messages >outside of the VMS user account. First, don't post HTML, MIME, or Rich Text to this list. Thank you. You don't really want to do this without defining how long you will keep the messages. We had an archival plan that kept messages for five years. Then we got in volved in a law suit with a firmer employee and the courts made us restore all five years of mail so it call could be reviewed for evidence. Do you know how many man-hours that took? Now our policy is to keep mail for one month only. If you don't save it yourself in that time, external to the Email system, it's gone. Our company doesn't want to be exposed to that liability again. Brian Tillman Internet: tillman_brian at si.com Smiths Aerospace tillman at swdev.si.com 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS Addresses modified to prevent Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991 SPAM. Replace "at" with "@" This opinion doesn't represent that of my company ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may be legally privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. This e-mail and its files are intended solely for the individual or entity to whom they are addressed and their content is the property of Smiths Aerospace. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this communication. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the e-mail administrator at postmaster@si.com and then delete this e-mail, its files and any copies. This footnote also confirms that this e-mail message has been scanned for the presence of known computer viruses. *********************************************************************** ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 06:26:05 -0800 Message-ID: <2B464A5FBFD1D011B21000805FEA878B0B72752D@EUHEMX6> From: "Smith, Dave (ECS)" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: "'MX-List@MadGoat.com'" Subject: MX 4.1 on VMS 7.2 - control of MAIL FROM tags etc Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:26:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain We running MX version 4.1 on Alpha on 7.2-1. We use this as a general gateway for sending diagnostic messages from the Alpha as well as holding some Listservers. Up till now we have only been sending email locally from the Alpha to users within our intranet. E.g. all mail is addressed to users of the form user@bp.com. I am now trying to send messages to the internet from the Alpha using MX without success. The MX software on the Alpha is configured to think it is in the domain "xxx.yyy.bp.com" (which is its DNS name). This allows users to reply to or send messages to the VMS mail accounts, and Reply to list server messages. The basic problem is that the SMTP server I use here rejects the internet destined messages if the MAIL FROM (or Sender: tag) is not in the domain bp.com. Strangely it allows the intranet ones to go through ! I have been trying to configure MX so that all the addresses are from the domain bp.com. e.g. logicals: MX_REPLY_TO" = "ECS Technical Support " MX_VMSMAIL_FROM_FORMAT" = "" and: ROUTER agent settings: Sender header for outgoing VMS Mail messages: omitted However even after disabling the Sender: tag the underlying MAIL FROM command still seems to contain . Is there any way to stop MX using the VMS user address ? I tried setting up some REWRITE rules to try to map user@xxx.yyy.bp.com to smithdt@bp.com, but this just seemed to hang the ROUTER. If I manually send a message using the same SMTP server it works OK. Is there a way around this (short of setting the domain to bp.com). I don't want to set the domain to bp.com since user@bp.com is not an ID I own ! Also would mean fiddling with the list server Reply-To fields. Are there any better ways to control the MAIL FROM, TO, From: Sender: Reply-To tags ? Any help would be appreciated Dave Smith Tandem/NSK Info-Zip maintainer ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 04:46:38 -0800 Message-ID: <4FA072E6B8B5D4119AE100508BAED508136AA7@scmail> From: Joyce Cogar Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: "'mx-list@madgoat.com'" Subject: how to force change of ip address for mail server to be recognize d Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:47:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, We have a site running mx v5.0a. Their mail server (not mx) was moved from one machine to another. The new machine has the same name as the old machine but a different ip address. How can the user force mx to send mail to the new ip address. Thanks Joyce Cogar Please note new phone numbers Joyce Cogar USM Service Center jcogar@usmsc.edu P.O. Box 530 Voice:301.809.3163 Bowie, Maryland 20718-0530 Fax: 301.809.3130 www.usmsc.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 05:11:14 -0800 From: Andy Harper Sender: andy.harper@kcl.ac.uk Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: "'mx-list@madgoat.com'" Subject: Re: how to force change of ip address for mail server to be recognize d In-Reply-To: <4FA072E6B8B5D4119AE100508BAED508136AA7@scmail> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:20:08 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:47:59 -0500 Joyce Cogar wrote: > Hi, > We have a site running mx v5.0a. Their mail server (not mx) was > moved from one machine to another. The new machine has the same name as the > old machine but a different ip address. How can the user force mx to send > mail to the new ip address. Hmm, surely as long as the dns is correctly set up to reflect the new ip/name mapping, then mx will send it to the new place automatically? Regards, ---------------------- Andy Harper B.Sc., M.B.C.S, C.Eng Systems and Mail Manager Kings College London ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 05:11:18 -0800 From: Andy Harper Sender: andy.harper@kcl.ac.uk Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: "'mx-list@madgoat.com'" Subject: Re: how to force change of ip address for mail server to be recognize d In-Reply-To: <4FA072E6B8B5D4119AE100508BAED508136AA7@scmail> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:20:08 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:47:59 -0500 Joyce Cogar wrote: > Hi, > We have a site running mx v5.0a. Their mail server (not mx) was > moved from one machine to another. The new machine has the same name as the > old machine but a different ip address. How can the user force mx to send > mail to the new ip address. Hmm, surely as long as the dns is correctly set up to reflect the new ip/name mapping, then mx will send it to the new place automatically? Regards, ---------------------- Andy Harper B.Sc., M.B.C.S, C.Eng Systems and Mail Manager Kings College London ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:14:37 -0800 From: "Terry Oxendine" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Subject: Percent Hack Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:14:53 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been listed on orbz.org as an open relay site. The test for percent hacked addresses is failing. Messages with addressing as follows is allowed through from remote sites. mail from: rcpt to: I have percent hacking disabled using the command set router/nopercent_hack. I'm confused, why are these messages still being allowed through? Of course, relaying is disabled and inside_networks is defined. I am running MX 5.1 with all of the ECOs. ============================================ Terry Oxendine UNC Pembroke Systems Administrator University Computing and Information Services Pembroke, NC 28372 Email: terry.oxendine@uncp.edu Voice: 910-521-6502 Fax: 910-521-6649 ============================================ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:40:34 -0800 Subject: Re: Percent Hack From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) Message-ID: <3c597379$1@news.kapsch.co.at> Date: 31 Jan 2002 17:40:25 +0100 Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com In article , "Terry Oxendine" writes: >I have been listed on orbz.org as an open relay site. The test for >percent hacked addresses is failing. Messages with addressing as follows >is allowed through from remote sites. > > mail from: > rcpt to: > >I have percent hacking disabled using the command set router/nopercent_hack. >I'm confused, why are these messages still being allowed through? Of >course, relaying is disabled and inside_networks is defined. I am running >MX 5.1 with all of the ECOs. V5.2 ECO 8 (soon 9) is current. Did you RESET (or restart) MX (at least ROUTER,SMTP_SERVER) after the change ? -Peter PS: Do you also have the IP form of your MX server defined as LOCAL ? $ MCP DEFINE PATH "[a.b.c.d]" LOCAL and also $ MCP DEFINE PATH "