Archive-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 00:06:15 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 00:04:54 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: mx-list@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00971DE4.15EE5940.30187@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: MX-LIST Administrivia: Monthly Post Last modified: 31-MAY-1993 23:55 (Added digest info.) Welcome to MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET, an electronic mailing list established for the discussion of the Message Exchange mail software. This is a routine posting you will see from time to time on MX-List. MX-List postings are also available in a daily digest format. To subscribe to the digest, send the following command in the body of a mail message to MXserver@WKUVX1.BITNET: SUBSCRIBE MX-List-Digest "Your real name here" The MX-List archives are maintained at ARCHIVES@WKUVX1.BITNET. To get a copy of any month's postings, send an e-mail message with the body SEND MX-List.yyyy-mm to ARCHIVES@WKUVX1.BITNET, where "yyyy" is the year and "mm" is the numeric representation of the month. For example, the message SENDME MX-List.1992-04 will send the archives for April 1992. To remove yourself from the mailing list, send the following command to MXserver@WKUVX1.BITNET: SIGNOFF MX-List MXserver supports a few other commands for your convenience. The following commands can be handled automatically by the list processor: SIGNOFF MX-List - to remove yourself from the list REVIEW MX-List - to get a list of subscribers QUERY MX-List - to get the status of your entry on the list SET MX-List NOMAIL - to remain on the list but not receive mail SET MX-List MAIL - to resume receiving mail from the list SET MX-List CONCEAL - to not report your address in a REVIEW SET MX-List NOCONCEAL - to report your address in a REVIEW SET MX-List REPRO - to receive posts you make to MX-List SET MX-List NOREPRO - to not receive posts you make to MX-List LIST - to get a list of mailing lists served by WKUVX1 HELP - to receive a help file By default, subscriptions are set to MAIL, REPRO, NOCONCEAL. If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions about MX-List, please contact the list owner at the address below. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Hunter Goatley, VAX Systems Programmer goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET Western Kentucky University Academic Computing, STH 226 (502) 745-5251 Bowling Green, KY 42101 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 03:08:46 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: gatech!concert.net!lsuc!dciem!priort!giles%harvard@HARVUNXW.BITNET Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Mon, 30 Aug 93 10:36:51 EDT Message-ID: <00971CAA0973A160.000012F0@priort.UUCP> Subject: Multiple "bangs" to UUCP To: mx-list@WKUVX1.BITNET I'm hoping someone else ran into this problem and can tell me the solution. When I sign onto our Vax and send mail using UUCP%, the "From" field gets set correctly. However, if I send out using MX%, the fields get set as From priort!!priort!giles Thu Aug 19 10:40:44 1993 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 10:20:21 EDT From: giles@sol.priort.ca To: tim@ben.dciem.dnd.ca Subject: Bad addresses, Part II Content-Length: 117 X-Lines: 3 X-Status: This, of course, causes all outgoing mail into InterNet to get bounced. Note that the MX Paths are set up so that the last two are Domain="*.UUCP", Path=UUCP Domain="*", Path=UUCP (We do not have a direct internet connection.) Thanks in advance for any help. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 07:07:19 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 07:07:10 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00971E1F.138819B7.24009@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: Multiple "bangs" to UUCP gatech!concert.net!lsuc!dciem!priort!giles%harvard@HARVUNXW.BITNET writes: > >I'm hoping someone else ran into this problem and can tell me the solution. >When I sign onto our Vax and send mail using UUCP%, the "From" field gets >set correctly. However, if I send out using MX%, the fields get set as > > From priort!!priort!giles Thu Aug 19 10:40:44 1993 This was a bug in UUCP. It was fixed with an interim release of V1.3, I believe, and is fixed in the current-for-more-than-a-year-now V2.0. You can get UUCP v2.0 from a number of places, including my FILESERV (SEND UUCP020, which just gets you the *minimum* set needed to run UUCP). Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 10:13:57 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 11:09:16 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: fredrick@calvin.pca.state.mn.us, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <00971E40.E5DB3E00.21230@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Problem with MX SMTP and CMU-TEK V6.6-5A > I am having a problem with MX V3.3 and CMU-TEK/ip V 6.6-5A. > > The MX SMTP process starts but immediately exits. The system > worked with CMU/TEK V 6.6-5. > > Any ideas? In IP_STARTUP.COM, which was replaced when you upgraded to version V 6.6-5A, you have to uncomment and edit the line with the INTERNET_HOST_NAME definition. While you are editing that file, also comment out the line(s) having to do with the TCP$SMPTSV variable. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 12:49:20 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU From: "Eric R. Rountree" Date: 1 Sep 1993 14:43:36 ADT Subject: Re: MX-LIST Administrivia: Monthly Post Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET I'm using MX for seven mailing lists. As system manager, I have set myself up as one of the owners of each of them; my address appears first in each owners list. I have just noticed that any messages sent to those lists arrive in the mailboxes of the recipients with my address in the Sender header. The From header is okay, but the Sender header is incorrect. Is this behaviour related to the fact that I am first on all the owner lists? Is there anything I can do about this? It is not the behaviour I want. My address is also the Errors-To address for each list. Thanks in advance. Eric Rountree ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 13:01:33 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 13:01:00 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00971E50.81D0E616.24131@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: Re: MX-LIST Administrivia: Monthly Post "Eric R. Rountree" writes: > >I'm using MX for seven mailing lists. As system manager, I have set myself >up as one of the owners of each of them; my address appears first in each >owners list. > >I have just noticed that any messages sent to those lists arrive in the >mailboxes of the recipients with my address in the Sender header. The From >header is okay, but the Sender header is incorrect. > >Is this behaviour related to the fact that I am first on all the owner >lists? Is there anything I can do about this? It is not the behaviour I >want. > Yes, it's because your first. For the MX-List, I created an alias "list-mgr" that is the actual owner for MX-List; the alias points to me. >My address is also the Errors-To address for each list. > Same is true here. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 15:55:55 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 13:51:42 -0700 From: "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: rharwood@Data.Basix.COM Message-ID: <00971E57.97486080.5210@Data.Basix.COM> Subject: RE: MAILSHR Patch Broke w/ VMS 5.2-2 On Fri, 27 Aug 1993 11:08:52 CST, "Hunter Goatley, WKU" wrote: > writes: > > > >The patch to the MAILSHR.EXE executable which precludes the need to > >enclose every internet address with MX%"..." has broke with VMS version > >5.2-2 (it worked up until this version). > > A patch that includes the correct offsets for all the recent versions > of VMS is available on ftp.spc.edu in [.MX.CONTRIB]MX_MAILSHR_PATCH.ZIP. I just upgraded MX from 3.2 to 3.3, AND just ftp'd the "latest patch" as described by Hunter. When I applied the patch, it gave: [lots of OLD and NEW lines from the Patch utility deleted] old: 00004AE8: MOVL #01,B^10(SP) %PATCH-W-DIFVAL, memory contains different value than specified And then gave no modified .EXE file (though it did leave the MAILSHR.JNL file). I'm running VMS 5.5 with Multinet 3.2A. What am I (or the patch?) doing wrong? Thanks! Ray ----- Ray Harwood | Data Basix | Adjunct Faculty, East Campus, Voice: (602)721-1988 | PO Box 18324 | Pima Community College FAX: (602)721-7240 | Tucson, AZ 85731 | Instructor in Ada and Pascal rharwood@Data.Basix.COM | Info@Data.Basix.COM | rharwood@east.pima.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 15:59:16 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 15:58:54 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00971E69.5C1FA920.24225@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: MAILSHR Patch Broke w/ VMS 5.2-2 "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" writes: > >I just upgraded MX from 3.2 to 3.3, AND just ftp'd the "latest patch" as >described by Hunter. When I applied the patch, it gave: > > [lots of OLD and NEW lines from the Patch utility deleted] >old: 00004AE8: MOVL #01,B^10(SP) >%PATCH-W-DIFVAL, memory contains different value than specified > >And then gave no modified .EXE file (though it did leave the MAILSHR.JNL file). >I'm running VMS 5.5 with Multinet 3.2A. What am I (or the patch?) doing wrong? > Check the patch file. Out of the "box," it may be set for VMS V6.0. Check to be sure the 5.5 lines are uncommented and the others are commented.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 16:37:37 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 14:33:13 -0700 From: "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: rharwood@Data.Basix.COM Message-ID: <00971E5D.638A2A20.5238@Data.Basix.COM> Subject: RE: MAILSHR Patch Broke w/ VMS 5.2-2 > Check the patch file. Out of the "box," it may be set for VMS V6.0. > Check to be sure the 5.5 lines are uncommented and the others are > commented.... Thanks, Hunter... actually, I did that... but I'm running 5.5(noupdate), and uncommenting the 5.5-2 patch was the problem! Going back to the 5.0 version worked fine. Arggggh! When time becomes available (ha-ha!), maybe I'll transform the patch into a .COM file and check one's VMS version, then apply the correct patch in all cases... Who's running 6.0 anyway?! ;-)} (just kidding... no flames required!) Thanks again! Ray ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 17:17:27 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Watching the MX SMTP queue from a .COM file Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 20:47:36 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET I've got MX 3.1c on all the nodes in a cluster except one, which still uses native Multinet SMTP for one reason: It's easy to F$GETQUI information about the SMTP_xxxxx queue. I have a detached process which wakes up every so often and checks for pending mail in the SMTP queue, and if found, initiates a dial-up connection to the destination site so it can be delivered. I'd like to do this with MX, but since MX manages the queues internally, I didn't see any easy way to trigger an action or a .COM file as a result of pending mail (not only that, but maybe I want it to keep pestering the .COM file every so often until the mail disappears - for example, to accumlate all the mail received over an hour and then send it in one transaction). I confess to not having time to read all of the documentation or keep up with the new features in the latest release. I really don't want to MCP QUEUE SHOW to a file and parse out the file. I'm not looking for a uucp solution; my connection for mail transmission is SMTP over TCP/IP slip via dial-up modems. The Multinet SMTP capability is good but not good enough. I need the MX path routing to a gateway for mail addresses which aren't associated with ip addresses. Is anyone solving a similar problem with MX without intense effort and (of course) without spending anything? Thanks... Carl Houseman houseman@hopper.acs.virginia.edu GENICOM Corporation, Waynesboro, VA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 20:54:31 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: RE: Problem with MX SMTP and CMU-TEK V6.6-5A Message-ID: <1993Sep2.010127.18022@colorado.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 01:01:27 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET >> I am having a problem with MX V3.3 and CMU-TEK/ip V 6.6-5A. >> >> The MX SMTP process starts but immediately exits. The system >> worked with CMU/TEK V 6.6-5. >> >> Any ideas? > >In IP_STARTUP.COM, which was replaced when you upgraded to version V 6.6-5A, >you have to uncomment and edit the line with the INTERNET_HOST_NAME >definition. > >While you are editing that file, also comment out the line(s) having to do >with the TCP$SMPTSV variable. And if that doesn't take care of it: Also check VMS accounting to see what the final exit status of the process that is dying; and if you've *still* got problems, enable MX debugging for the SMTP agent and post the contents of the debug log file. See the MX management guide for information on enabling debugging -Dan Wing, Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing_d@ucolmcc.bitnet ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 22:15:39 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 04:11:22 BST From: "Jamie Jones, HICOM Software Development" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Message-ID: <00971ECF.AF58B940.1825@hicom.lut.ac.uk> Subject: Re: MX-LIST Administrivia: Monthly Post => I'm using MX for seven mailing lists. As system manager, I have set myself => up as one of the owners of each of them; my address appears first in each => owners list. => => I have just noticed that any messages sent to those lists arrive in the => mailboxes of the recipients with my address in the Sender header. The From => header is okay, but the Sender header is incorrect. => => Is this behaviour related to the fact that I am first on all the owner => lists? Is there anything I can do about this? It is not the behaviour I => want. => => My address is also the Errors-To address for each list. => => Thanks in advance. => => Eric Rountree Yes it is. We run a number of lists here, and recently altered them so that they all follow the convention of having the first list owner, and "Errors-To" pointing to the address "-owner@". Then, in VMSMAIL, the command : MAIL> set forward/user=-owner e.g. : Mailing lists: Name: CSCW Owner: "CSCW-owner@HICOM.LUT.AC.UK" "jamie@HICOM.LUT.AC.UK" Reply-to: List, NOSender Archive: DISK$SERVERS:[SERVER_MGR.MLF_ARCHIVES.CSCW] Errors-to: CSCW-owner@HICOM.LUT.AC.UK Strip header: NOReceived Private list: Yes Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RWED,WORLD:W) Then, in VMSMAIL: MAIL> set forward/user=cscw-owner jamie This makes the SMTP accouting more accurate (as the entry 'cscw-owner' tells me straight away that the message was sent by the CSCW list), and also enables us to add to the general "auto-subscribe" message something along the lines of : .... If you have any problems that you can't deal with automatically, you may contact the human in charge of this list by mailing : {list-name}-owner@hicom.lut.ac.uk Hope this helps, Jamie. p.s. if you do this, DON'T FORGET TO SET THE VMSMAIL FORWARD !!! :-) --- jamie@hicom.lut.ac.uk jamie@hicom.org --- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 08:43:03 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 08:37:17 EDT From: kenm@adhe.arknet.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: mx-list@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00971EF4.D5046E80.1438@adhe.arknet.edu> Subject: Cobol/VMS Mail command line syntax to MX Arkansas Department of Higher Education I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M Date: 09-02-1993 08:13am GMT From: KEN MCCOY KENM Dept: Information Services Tel No: 501-324-9300 FAX 501-324-9308 TO: Remote Addressee ( _mx-list@wkuvx1.bitnet ) Subject: Cobol/VMS Mail command line syntax to MX I am trying to create a Cobol subscription program that uses VMS-mail command line syntax to send message through MX. The command line that Cobol dumps to VMS is stored like this: 01 WS-MAIL-ADD. 05 WS-MAIL-SUB1 PIC X(15) VALUE 'MAIL /SUBJECT="'. 05 WS-MAIL-SUB2 PIC X(09) VALUE 'SUBSCRIBE'. 05 WS-MAIL-SUB3 PIC X(1) VALUE '"'. 05 WS-MESS-TXT PIC X(25) VALUE ' SYS$LOGIN:SUBSCRIBE.TXT '. 05 WS-DASH PIC X(1) VALUE '-'. 05 WS-MAIL-GATE PIC X(06) VALUE 'MX%"""'. 05 WS-MAIL-LIST PIC X(25). 05 WS-MAIL-END PIC X(03) VALUE '"""'. This results in an command line that looks like this: mail/subject="subscribe" sys$login:subscribe.txt - mx%"""mx-list@wkuvx1.bitnet""" I use "CALL 'LIB$SPAWN' USING BY DESCRIPTOR WS-MAIL-ADD" to dump the command line to VMS. when the Cobol program executes the "CALL 'LIB$SPAWN" I get this error message: %MAIL-E-ERRACTRNS, error activating transport -MX %LIB-E-ACTIMAGE, error activating image -MX_MAILSHR -RMS-F-SYN, file specification syntax error I can type the command line manually at the VMS prompt and it works great. Anyone have any Ideas? Thanks in advance, Ken McCoy Systems Programmer AR Dept. Higher Ed. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 09:22:23 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 10:14:45 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: houseman@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <00971F02.727B7C00.21322@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Watching the MX SMTP queue from a .COM file > I have a detached process which wakes up every so often and checks for pending > mail in the SMTP queue, and if found, initiates a dial-up connection to the > destination site so it can be delivered. I'd like to do this with MX, but > since MX manages the queues internally, I didn't see any easy way to trigger > an action or a .COM file as a result of pending mail (not only that, but maybe > I want it to keep pestering the .COM file every so often until the mail > disappears - for example, to accumlate all the mail received over an hour and > then send it in one transaction). Why not have the .COM file purge the queue of any old entries that might be in it, then simply check for the existance of files in any of the queue directories with the key suffix? (I don't know offhand what it is, but you can easily figure it out.) The worst that can happen is that you make your dial-up connection too frequently if this method gives false positives. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 09:51:38 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 10:40:14 EDT From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: WKUVX1.BITNET!MX-list@esseye.si.com CC: kenm@adhe.arknet.edu Message-ID: <00971F06.01A897C0.2308@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: Cobol/VMS Mail command line syntax to MX > %MAIL-E-ERRACTRNS, error activating transport -MX > %LIB-E-ACTIMAGE, error activating image -MX_MAILSHR > -RMS-F-SYN, file specification syntax error Seems evident to me that your command line really looks like this: mail/subject="subscribe" sys$login:subscribe.txt -mx%"""mx-list@wkuvx1.bitnet""" That is, you do not have two separate lines at all. Drop the minus sign in 05 WS-DASH PIC X(1) VALUE '-'. -- Brian Tillman ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 10:12:30 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 07:59:31 PDT From: Bill Pedersen Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: pedersen@kpy.com Message-ID: <00971EEF.8E92A020.22930@kpy.com> Subject: RE: Cobol/VMS Mail command line syntax to MX Ken McCoy Systems Programmer AR Dept. Higher Ed. Write: .... >> >> 01 WS-MAIL-ADD. >> 05 WS-MAIL-SUB1 PIC X(15) >> VALUE 'MAIL /SUBJECT="'. >> 05 WS-MAIL-SUB2 PIC X(09) >> VALUE 'SUBSCRIBE'. >> 05 WS-MAIL-SUB3 PIC X(1) >> VALUE '"'. >> 05 WS-MESS-TXT PIC X(25) >> VALUE ' SYS$LOGIN:SUBSCRIBE.TXT '. >> 05 WS-DASH PIC X(1) >> VALUE '-'. >> 05 WS-MAIL-GATE PIC X(06) >> VALUE 'MX%"""'. >> 05 WS-MAIL-LIST PIC X(25). >> 05 WS-MAIL-END PIC X(03) >> VALUE '"""'. >> >> >> This results in an command line that looks like this: >> >> mail/subject="subscribe" sys$login:subscribe.txt - >> mx%"""mx-list@wkuvx1.bitnet""" .... No, the resultant command line is like this: mail/subject="subscribe" sys$login:subscribe.txt -mx%"""mx-list@wkuvx1.bitnet""" ^^^^ NOTE! I do not see a cariage return above. I also do not recommend spawn with continuation lines, I'm not sure it works - never tried it... __________________________________________________________________________ Bill Pedersen | KPY Network Partners (KPY Corporation) | 1037 North Fair Oaks Avneue, Sunnyvale, CA 94089-2101 | 1-408-734-2564 1-800-458-8930 FAX:1-408-734-2940 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 12:17:11 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: Re: Watching the MX SMTP queue from a .COM file Message-ID: <1993Sep2.151125.13899@colorado.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 15:11:25 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article , houseman@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU (Carl Houseman) writes: >I really don't want to MCP QUEUE SHOW to a file and parse out the file. It wouldn't be that bad...: $ DEFINE SYS$OUTPUT X.X $ MCR MX_EXE:MCP QUEUE SHOW $ DEASSIGN SYS$OUTPUT $ $ SEARCH/EXACT/WINDOW=0/MATCH=OR X.X "READY","INPROG" $ SAVE_STATUS = $STATUS $ $ DELETE X.X; $ $ IF SAVE_STATUS $ THEN $ ... fire up your slip link $ ENDIF -Dan Wing, Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing_d@ucolmcc.bitnet ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 14:20:23 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU From: "Eric R. Rountree" Date: 2 Sep 1993 16:07:05 ADT Subject: Case Sensitivity in Owner Field of Mailing Lists Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Hello again. Is there any way to get MX to stop being so finicky about the upper and lower case of the addresses of list owners? I'm trying to set up a couple of users as co-owners of a few lists, and I'm not even sure how the upper and lower case letters in their addresses are being received by the MX list processor. They keep getting "Insufficient privilege" when they send a command to the list-request. Do I have to keep guessing till I get it right, or can I tell MX to "loosen up"? Thanks a lot. Eric Rountree ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 16:47:22 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 16:46:55 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00971F39.3BC13731.24783@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: Case Sensitivity in Owner Field of Mailing Lists "Eric R. Rountree" writes: > >Hello again. > >Is there any way to get MX to stop being so finicky about the upper and >lower case of the addresses of list owners? > You can ADD/NOCASE users. This should be documented in the MLF guide. I hope to add DEFINE LIST/NOCASE in MX V3.4. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 17:09:24 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 17:04 CST From: "H.A. Kippenhan Jr." Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Case Sensitivity in Owner Field of Mailing Lists To: mx-list@WKUVX1.BITNET Hunter writes: | | "Eric R. Rountree" writes: | > | >Hello again. | > | >Is there any way to get MX to stop being so finicky about the upper and | >lower case of the addresses of list owners? | > | You can ADD/NOCASE users. This should be documented in the MLF guide. | Does this override of the case sensitivity extend to the "owners" of the list? I think Eric was referring to the fact that his attempts to add/delete users was bombing because the MLF component was unhappy with the case of his administrative requests. | | I hope to add DEFINE LIST/NOCASE in MX V3.4. | That's great. I will be one of it's early users. Regards - Kipp - {~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~} { H.A. Kippenhan Jr. | Internet: Kippenhan@FNDCD.FNAL.GOV } { National HEPnet Management | HEPnet/NSI DECnet: FNDCD::KIPPENHAN } { Fermi National Accelerator Lab. | BITnet: Kippenhan@FNDCD.BITNET } { P.O. Box 500 MS: FCC-3E/368 | Telephone: (708) 840-8068 } { Batavia, Illinois 60510 | FAX: (708) 840-8463 } ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 17:31:58 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Re: Watching the MX SMTP queue from a .COM file Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 19:20:55 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <1993Sep2.151125.13899@colorado.edu>, Dan Wing wrote: >In article , >houseman@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU (Carl Houseman) writes: > >>I really don't want to MCP QUEUE SHOW to a file and parse out the file. > >It wouldn't be that bad...: > $ DEFINE SYS$OUTPUT X.X > $ MCR MX_EXE:MCP QUEUE SHOW > $ DEASSIGN SYS$OUTPUT > $ > $ SEARCH/EXACT/WINDOW=0/MATCH=OR X.X "READY","INPROG" > $ SAVE_STATUS = $STATUS > $ > $ DELETE X.X; > $ > $ IF SAVE_STATUS > $ THEN > $ ... fire up your slip link > $ ENDIF You cheated. You're not parsing out the file! :-) The situation is a little more complex than I let on. I may have waiting mail for two different slip hosts. For one host all the destination addresses are the same, but for the other they may be anything. Easy enough to figure out the specific destination, but a little harder to verify the presence of any-other-destination-except-x. Once the slip link is up the pending mail should be released for processing immediately. Is that MCP QUEUE READY ? Note that I'll have to grab the entry numbers at some time in order to READY them, so I'll end up parsing the output of SEARCH. As a result, I'm at Hunter's mercy not to change the format of the output of MCP QUEUE SHOW too much. Parsing output is a Unix thing and I really hate it when I have to operate VMS like Unix. Carl Houseman houseman@hopper.acs.virginia.edu GENICOM Corporation, Waynesboro, VA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1993 19:49:44 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Re: Cobol/VMS Mail command line syntax to MX Message-ID: <2660jlINN7tp@gap.caltech.edu> From: Date: 2 Sep 1993 23:45:56 GMT Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <00971EF4.D5046E80.1438@adhe.arknet.edu>, kenm@adhe.arknet.edu writes: = Arkansas Department of Higher Education = = I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M = = Date: 09-02-1993 08:13am GMT = From: KEN MCCOY = KENM = Dept: Information Services = Tel No: 501-324-9300 FAX 501-324-9308 = =TO: Remote Addressee ( _mx-list@wkuvx1.bitnet ) = = =Subject: Cobol/VMS Mail command line syntax to MX = = = = = I am trying to create a Cobol subscription program that uses = VMS-mail command line syntax to send message through MX. = = = The command line that Cobol dumps to VMS is stored like this: = = 01 WS-MAIL-ADD. = 05 WS-MAIL-SUB1 PIC X(15) = VALUE 'MAIL /SUBJECT="'. = 05 WS-MAIL-SUB2 PIC X(09) = VALUE 'SUBSCRIBE'. = 05 WS-MAIL-SUB3 PIC X(1) = VALUE '"'. = 05 WS-MESS-TXT PIC X(25) = VALUE ' SYS$LOGIN:SUBSCRIBE.TXT '. = 05 WS-DASH PIC X(1) = VALUE '-'. = 05 WS-MAIL-GATE PIC X(06) = VALUE 'MX%"""'. = 05 WS-MAIL-LIST PIC X(25). = 05 WS-MAIL-END PIC X(03) = VALUE '"""'. = = = This results in an command line that looks like this: = =mail/subject="subscribe" sys$login:subscribe.txt - =mx%"""mx-list@wkuvx1.bitnet""" No, it results in a command line that looks like: mail/subject="subscribe" sys$login:subscribe.txt -mx%"""mx-list@wkuvx1.bitnet"""= =I use "CALL 'LIB$SPAWN' USING BY DESCRIPTOR WS-MAIL-ADD" to dump the command =line to VMS. = = = when the Cobol program executes the "CALL 'LIB$SPAWN" I get this = error message: = = %MAIL-E-ERRACTRNS, error activating transport -MX = %LIB-E-ACTIMAGE, error activating image -MX_MAILSHR = -RMS-F-SYN, file specification syntax error That's because of the "-mx%" in your command line. Get rid of the dash: 01 WS-MAIL-ADD. 05 WS-MAIL-SUB1 PIC X(15) VALUE 'MAIL /SUBJECT="'. 05 WS-MAIL-SUB2 PIC X(09) VALUE 'SUBSCRIBE'. 05 WS-MAIL-SUB3 PIC X(1) VALUE '"'. 05 WS-MESS-TXT PIC X(25) VALUE ' SYS$LOGIN:SUBSCRIBE.TXT '. 05 WS-MAIL-GATE PIC X(06) VALUE 'MX%"""'. 05 WS-MAIL-LIST PIC X(25). 05 WS-MAIL-END PIC X(03) VALUE '"""'. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1993 00:26:50 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1993 00:26:42 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00971F79.76C492BB.24920@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: Case Sensitivity in Owner Field of Mailing Lists "H.A. Kippenhan Jr." writes: > > Hunter writes: >| > >| You can ADD/NOCASE users. This should be documented in the MLF guide. >| > Does this override of the case sensitivity extend to the > "owners" of the list? I think Eric was referring to the > fact that his attempts to add/delete users was bombing > because the MLF component was unhappy with the case of > his administrative requests. Ooops. He *did* say that. No, using /NOCASE has no effect on the owners list. >| I hope to add DEFINE LIST/NOCASE in MX V3.4. >| > That's great. I will be one of it's early users. > I'll make sure this affects the owner list too. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1993 01:24:40 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: RE: Cobol/VMS Mail command line syntax to MX Date: 3 Sep 1993 04:49:25 GMT Message-ID: <266iclINNg1j@gap.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <00971EEF.8E92A020.22930@kpy.com>, Bill Pedersen writes: =I do not see a cariage return above. I also do not recommend spawn with =continuation lines, I'm not sure it works - never tried it... LIB$SPAWN takes the command argument as a single record. If you put a carriage return in the record, I'm not sure how it treats the carriage return, but it does NOT treat the command as two records. And, no, you can't use a continuation line via two calls to LIB$SPAWN because one will be sent to one subprocess and the second to another. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1993 19:15:57 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <199309040011.AA04680@ncc.free.net> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 04:06:17 -0300 From: khorkov@UNIVAX.FREE.NET Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@RPIECSVX.BITNET, sysadmin@RPIECSVX.BITNET Subject: Who can help me ? Dear colleagues ! My name is Sergey Khorkov. I am a VMS system manager by UNICOR Corp. Moscow, Russia. Our company have MicroVax 3100-80 under VAX/VMS v5.5. We have UCX 2.0 and JNET v3.6 too. Our company is no-profit organization. We work with Russian univercities. Our main target is creation Russian University's Network. Our VAX included into two networks - EARN/BITNET and FREEnet. FREEnet is Internet network, which was created by Russian Academy of Science. We plan to connect MicroVAX with other VAXes in Moscow by DECnet. We have problem with mail interchange between EARN, FREEnet and DECnet. I copied MX Mailer v3.1 from Digital's GATEKEEPER and tried to install it. It was unsuccessful. At now I have some problems with MX Mailer: 1. I can not send mail via VMS mail with MX% prefix; 2. During VMSINSTAL I saw some warnings by linker; 3. When we send message to DECnet nodes, this message disappears. Please, explain me: What I do incorrectly ? What MX components I must select ? Please, send me protocols of MX Mailer instalation, if it is possible. I'll create new account GUESTS without password. You may to copy files in this directory. You may see configuration of our system. I bag my pardon for my English. Please, send mail to khorkov@univax.free.net or khorkov@ruunicom.bitnet. Sincerelly, Sergey Khorkov. Moscow, UNICOR Corp. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1993 17:12:45 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Need help with PSI Date: 4 Sep 1993 21:54:58 GMT Message-ID: <26b2ri$66e@agate.berkeley.edu> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET From patko Sat Sep 4 14:53:30 1993 To: /h/uclink_b/patko/.article Subject: HELP WANTED Hi, I am looking for a vax guy to answer some questions for a long time but it seems nobody is quite familiar with PSI mail. I need to send E-mail to VAX/VMS user via PSI DEC-mail protocol. I have only internet access so I need a gateway or some other way to send my message. I use to work on VAX4000 and I have a pretty clear idea how PSI works but can't do it from internet. I even dont have x.25 access which if I had I could run psi software but......... Any help will be highly appreciated. I need to send just few notes So a temporary or so gateway will be just fine! Packet kd6ydz@w6pw.#nocal.ca.usa.na Internet patko@uclink.berkeley.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1993 08:28:10 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: UCX-show mail Date: 6 Sep 1993 11:53:06 GMT Message-ID: <26f8b2$le0@im.mgt.ncu.edu.tw> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET I install MX-Mail 3.3. But it still has a big problem. (general user can't send mail) So I enter UCX and UCX> show mail. Then it appears this following message. UCX> show mail %LIB-E-ACTIMAGE, error activating image NCU#(S$DUA@:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]UCX$SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE;2 -SYSTEM-F-PRIVINSTALL, shareable images must be installed to run privileged image %UCX-E-SMTPERROR, Error processing SMTP request -UCX-E-NOSMTPSHR, Error resolving SMTP_MAILSHR entry point -SYSTEM-F-PRIVINSTALL, shareable images must be installed to run privileged image UCX> Can you help me to solve this question? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1993 09:59:30 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1993 09:00:56 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <009722E5.F6831F5D.26325@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: UCX-show mail writes: > >I install MX-Mail 3.3. But it still has a big problem. (general user can't send > mail) >So I enter UCX and UCX> show mail. Then it appears this following message. >UCX> show mail >%LIB-E-ACTIMAGE, error activating image > NCU#(S$DUA@:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]UCX$SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE;2 >-SYSTEM-F-PRIVINSTALL, shareable images must be installed to run privileged > image >%UCX-E-SMTPERROR, Error processing SMTP request >-UCX-E-NOSMTPSHR, Error resolving SMTP_MAILSHR entry point >-SYSTEM-F-PRIVINSTALL, shareable images must be installed to run privileged > image >UCX> >Can you help me to solve this question? > MX *replaces* UCX's mail; you can't use UCX SHOW MAIL to show anything about MX. Have you read the MX documentation? The MCP program is used to control MX. You must disable UCX's SMTP in order for MX to work. Without more info, I can't help you. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1993 11:06:29 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1993 07:56:15 -0700 From: "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: rharwood@Data.Basix.COM Message-ID: <009722DC.EDFADFA0.5979@Data.Basix.COM> Subject: RE: UCX-show mail On 6 Sep 1993 11:53:06 GMT, writes: > I install MX-Mail 3.3. But it still has a big problem. (general user can't > send mail) > So I enter UCX and UCX> show mail. Then it appears this following message. > UCX> show mail > %LIB-E-ACTIMAGE, error activating image > NCU#(S$DUA@:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]UCX$SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE;2 > -SYSTEM-F-PRIVINSTALL, shareable images must be installed to run privileged > image > %UCX-E-SMTPERROR, Error processing SMTP request > -UCX-E-NOSMTPSHR, Error resolving SMTP_MAILSHR entry point > -SYSTEM-F-PRIVINSTALL, shareable images must be installed to run privileged > image > UCX> > Can you help me to solve this question? Once MX is installed and running properly, UCX should not be used for any SMTP activity. I've taken SMTP completely out of the UCX configuration, so I don't even get the above messages, I get one like "SMTP not in UCX Configuration. What happens when the user tries to send mail? Since the UCX system is on a client machine, I don't have all the configuration details right at hand, but since it seems there are several folks with UCX problems, I'll try and help out. (It took me some "extra doing" to get it all set up, too.) Ray ----- Ray Harwood | Data Basix | Adjunct Faculty, East Campus, Voice: (602)721-1988 | PO Box 18324 | Pima Community College FAX: (602)721-7240 | Tucson, AZ 85731 | Instructor in Ada and Pascal rharwood@Data.Basix.COM | Info@Data.Basix.COM | rharwood@east.pima.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1993 12:44:59 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: can't receive mail Message-ID: From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 04:20:57 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Does anyone meet this kind of question? When you install mx-mail in your system, then just the SYSTEM can send and receive mail, the general user just can receive mail. My method of install is as follow--> $ @sys$update:vmsinstal mx033 dua0:[pub.mx033] then $ @mx_root:[000000]mx_startup.com ans I select MX_based and SMTP interface and Mailing list Can you help me? --dino ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1993 12:48:34 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: Re: Who can help me ? Message-ID: <1993Sep7.163203.11908@colorado.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 16:32:03 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <199309040011.AA04680@ncc.free.net>, khorkov@UNIVAX.FREE.NET writes: >I copied MX Mailer >v3.1 from Digital's GATEKEEPER and tried to install it. The current version of MX is V3.3, available via anonymous FTP from ftp.spc.edu, or, from the European mirror site at nic.switch.ch in the directory /mirror/vms/spc. >It was unsuccessful. Did VMSINSTAL report that the installation was unsuccessful?? >At now I have some problems with MX Mailer: > 1. I can not send mail via VMS mail with MX% prefix; What is the error message? > 2. During VMSINSTAL I saw some warnings by linker; What were the error messages? > 3. When we send message to DECnet nodes, this message disappears. MX does *not* interfere with normal DECnet mail at all, so could you please explain in more detail -- show the exact commands you were using, and what went wrong. -Dan Wing, Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing_d@ucolmcc.bitnet ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1993 14:26:44 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: Re: UCX-show mail Message-ID: <1993Sep7.172955.14373@colorado.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 17:29:55 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <26f8b2$le0@im.mgt.ncu.edu.tw>, im811177@imux121.ncu.edu.tw (im811177) writes: >I install MX-Mail 3.3. But it still has a big problem. (general user can't send mail) >So I enter UCX and UCX> show mail. Then it appears this following message. >UCX> show mail >%LIB-E-ACTIMAGE, error activating image NCU#(S$DUA@:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]UCX$SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE;2 >-SYSTEM-F-PRIVINSTALL, shareable images must be installed to run privileged image >%UCX-E-SMTPERROR, Error processing SMTP request >-UCX-E-NOSMTPSHR, Error resolving SMTP_MAILSHR entry point >-SYSTEM-F-PRIVINSTALL, shareable images must be installed to run privileged image >UCX> >Can you help me to solve this question? THE UCX SMTP MUST BE DISABLED IF YOU WANT TO USE MX. PLEASE READ THE MX MANAGEMENT GUIDE. -Dan Wing, Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing_d@ucolmcc.bitnet ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1993 00:56:46 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: u435634@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: My log files. Message-ID: <8SEP93.13200733@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 13:20:07 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET I re-install my mx-mail v3.0. But the general user still can't receive mail. But I found in the [mx.router] directory, it records the log files.. it is as follow: 8-SEP-1993 11:42:56.52 %PROCESS, Processing entry number 15 8-SEP-1993 11:42:56.84 %PROCESS, Status from READ_INFO was 00000001 8-SEP-1993 11:42:56.84 %PROCESS, Message originated in VMS Mail. 8-SEP-1993 11:42:56.85 %PROCESS, will run domain expander on envelope addresss . 8-SEP-1993 11:42:56.85 %PROCESS, Processing address: 8-SEP-1993 11:42:57.17 %PROCESS, ... expanded ncu39s to NCU39S.NCU.EDU.TW 8-SEP-1993 11:42:57.17 %PROCESS, ... address now reads: 8-SEP-1993 11:42:57.17 %PROCESS, will run domain expander on message headers. 8-SEP-1993 11:42:57.80 %PROCESS, ... for dino@ncu39s expanded ncu39s to NCU9 S.NCU.EDU.TW 8-SEP-1993 11:42:58.53 %PROCESS, Finished VMSmail-origin preprocessing. 8-SEP-1993 11:42:58.53 %PROCESS, Recipient #0: 8-SEP-1993 11:42:58.54 %REWRITE, No rewrite rules matched 8-SEP-1993 11:42:58.85 %FINDPATH, Site-spec expand on NCU39S.NCU.EDU.TW err=000 0000 8-SEP-1993 11:42:58.85 %FINDPATH, domain name NCU39S.NCU.EDU.TW matched path pt tern NCU39S.NCU.EDU.TW 8-SEP-1993 11:42:58.85 %PROCESS, Rewrote as - next hop NCU39S.NCU.EDU.TW, path 1 8-SEP-1993 11:42:58.85 %FINDALIAS, no alias found for dino 8-SEP-1993 11:42:58.85 %PROCESS, no alias found for dino 8-SEP-1993 11:42:58.86 %PROCESS, this is just a local delivery 8-SEP-1993 11:42:59.14 %PROCESS, Adding to LOCAL path: dino. 8-SEP-1993 11:42:59.44 %PROCESS, Path LOCAL gets 1 rcpts, entry number 16 (ncu39s is my machine and dino is the general user) Can you help me to solve this question? Thanks.. (my system is VMS 5.5-2 and UCX 2.0 ) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1993 04:33:03 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: Re: My log files. Date: 8 Sep 1993 08:53:04 GMT Message-ID: <26k6hgINNnt0@gap.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <8SEP93.13200733@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw>, u435634@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw writes: = 8-SEP-1993 11:42:59.14 %PROCESS, Adding to LOCAL path: dino. = 8-SEP-1993 11:42:59.44 %PROCESS, Path LOCAL gets 1 rcpts, entry number 16 = =(ncu39s is my machine and dino is the general user) =Can you help me to solve this question? OK. You've demonstrated that the problem is not with the router, but with the LOCAL delivery agent. Now you might want to tell us what the LOCAL log file (once you define MX_LOCAL_DEBUG) tells you. Oh, and you might waht to take the time to Read The Fucking Manual, which would have told you that you should now be looking at the local log file. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1993 11:13:44 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: Name conversion and its uses... Message-ID: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 15:07:23 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET I want to be able to use my MX machine as a mail server for a group of machines. I'm in the "ucc.ie" domain, and I want to be able to address mail to "some.user@ucc.ie", have the mail message arrive on `csvax1.ucc.ie' and then have csvax1 lookup "some.user" and convert that alias to an actual address. The address returned will *not* necessarily be local. I am not worried about the reverse procedure.. I just need alias to real address conversion. I would like to have a file (preferably plain text), which would contain something like the following: some.user user_s@csvax1.ucc.ie other.user snoopy::user_o last.user root@boole.cs.rtc.ucc.ie I've looked at the NAME_CONVERSION code in [.CONTRIB] and in [.EXAMPLES], but I'm not sure if the it will work for each of the above cases... So my questions are: Can the NAME_CONVERSION routines handle this.. (I don't mind writing code :-) Has anyone done this already? Does anyone have any horror stories that they want to tell me, or any advice they would like to give. Tech Specs: OVMS 5.5-2 MX 3.3 VAX Multinet V3.2B Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Chris. + J.C. Higgins, + + If you love something, set it + + VMS Sys. Admin, + Chris@csvax1.ucc.ie + free. If it doesn't come back + + Comp.Sc.Dept. + Chris@odyssey.ucc.ie + to you, hunt it down and + + UCC, Ireland + C.Higgins@bureau.ucc.ie + KILL it. + ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1993 12:09:07 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: Re: Name conversion and its uses... Message-ID: <1993Sep8.163639.2130@colorado.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 16:36:39 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article , chris@csvax1.ucc.ie (Chris Higgins - System Administrator) writes: >I would like to have a file (preferably plain text), which would contain >something like the following: > >some.user user_s@csvax1.ucc.ie >other.user snoopy::user_o >last.user root@boole.cs.rtc.ucc.ie > > >I've looked at the NAME_CONVERSION code in [.CONTRIB] and in [.EXAMPLES], but >I'm not sure if the it will work for each of the above cases... Check NICKNAME.ZIP, in [.CONTRIB] directory of the MX V3.3 kit, which could be modified to do what you want. Written by Louis Moore at moore.louis@tchden.org (who runs MX at his site and uses the NICKNAME for incoming and outgoing address conversion). As it is written, it only handles local usernames, but should be relatively easy to change it to support non-local addresses as well. The file that does the conversion is plain-text, but is an indexed file (so you couldn't edit it directly -- you'd have to CONVERT it afterwards and stop/restart the SITE agents, I believe). -Dan Wing, Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing@eisner.decus.org ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1993 04:19:21 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: Re: My log files. Message-ID: <199309080938.AA02168@desert.ihep.su> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 08 Sep 93 13:38:53 +0400 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET u435634@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw wrote: : ... : 8-SEP-1993 11:42:58.86 %PROCESS, this is just a local delivery : 8-SEP-1993 11:42:59.14 %PROCESS, Adding to LOCAL path: dino. : 8-SEP-1993 11:42:59.44 %PROCESS, Path LOCAL gets 1 rcpts, entry number 16 : (ncu39s is my machine and dino is the general user) : Can you help me to solve this question? : Thanks.. : (my system is VMS 5.5-2 and UCX 2.0 ) Seems like Router correctly recognized the message to be local. The message gone to Local agent. You should check log-files of the Local agent. They appear in mx_local_dir:mx_local_log.log when system logical name "MX_LOCAL_DEBUG" is defined. Define using something like: $define/system/exec mx_local_debug yes then try to send a message and see the result in log-file. -- Igor. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 12:10:42 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: meregalli@cesi.it Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Re: Name conversion and its uses... Message-ID: <1993Sep10.124341.199@cesi.it> Date: 10 Sep 93 12:43:41 +0200 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <1993Sep8.163639.2130@colorado.edu>, dwing@uh01.Colorado.EDU (Dan Wing) writes: > Check NICKNAME.ZIP, in [.CONTRIB] directory of the MX V3.3 kit, which could > be modified to do what you want. Written by Louis Moore at > moore.louis@tchden.org (who runs MX at his site and uses the NICKNAME for > incoming and outgoing address conversion). > I'm trying to use the NICKNAME MX name conversion routine. I "build" without any error, but when I "install", I get %INSTALL-W-NOGBLSEC, no global sections created for DISK$DISK11:MX_NAME_CONVERSION.EXE I don't understand anything from the very thin explanation of the message in "Errors & Messages". After that I RESET the MX router but name conversion doesn't work! Any hint? Thanks a lot --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alberto Meregalli, SIC tel. +39 2 2125 249 CESI, Centro Elettrotecnico Sperimentale Italiano fax +39 2 2125 520 Via Rubattino, 54 - I 21034 Milano E-mail: meregalli@cesi.it ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 14:10:16 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 13:05:45 MST From: "Louis B. Moore" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Message-ID: <00972563.A909F0A0.28485@tchden.org> Subject: Re: Name conversion and its uses... >I'm trying to use the NICKNAME MX name conversion routine. I "build" >without any error, but when I "install", I get > >%INSTALL-W-NOGBLSEC, no global sections created > for DISK$DISK11:MX_NAME_CONVERSION.EXE > >I don't understand anything from the very thin explanation of the >message in "Errors & Messages". It means I used .ASCID directives in MX_NAME_CONVERSION.MAR. Refer to page 4-4 in the VMS Linker Utility Manual. I'll have it repaired as soon as possible. >After that I RESET the MX router but name conversion doesn't work! > >Any hint? Even with the Install warning the nick name conversion works at our site. Can you tell if the .exe is hit at all? Do the users you are testing have entries in the lookup file? Louis B. Moore Internet: MOORE.LOUIS@tchden.org Systems Programmer Phone: +1.303.837.2513 The Children's Hospital of Denver Denver, Colorado USA 80218 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 17:12:18 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 16:05:18 MST From: "Louis B. Moore" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Message-ID: <0097257C.BE933580.28579@tchden.org> Subject: Updated NICKNAME.ZIP available (Was: Re: Name conversion and its uses...) >It means I used .ASCID directives in MX_NAME_CONVERSION.MAR. Refer >to page 4-4 in the VMS Linker Utility Manual. I'll have it repaired >as soon as possible. Ok, I got the .ASCID neutralized and new NICKNAME.ZIP available to anyone who wants it. Louis B. Moore Internet: MOORE.LOUIS@tchden.org Systems Programmer Phone: +1.303.837.2513 The Children's Hospital of Denver Denver, Colorado USA 80218 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 00:26:34 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: MX and VMS V6.0 Message-ID: <1993Sep5.151215.55@macro.demon.co.uk> Date: 5 Sep 93 15:12:15 +0000 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET I am currently running the latest version of MX under VMS version 5.5-2 and want to upgrade to VMS V6.0. Are there any know problems with doing this? Thanks. Neill. -- Neill Clift neill@macro.demon.co.uk ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 05:38:07 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 05:37:57 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00972780.99FCCDA7.28216@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: MX and VMS V6.0 writes: > >I am currently running the latest version of MX under VMS version 5.5-2 and >want to upgrade to VMS V6.0. Are there any know problems with doing this? >Thanks. It works; there are several sites using MX with VMS V6.0. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 07:20:57 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 14:18:03 MEZ ( +0200) From: Peter Kobe Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <009727C9.42321FC0.32052@pib1.physik.uni-bonn.de> Subject: MX ALIAS Database MXALIAS doesn't unlock records I looked up an alias record on machine A in the Cluster I forgot to exit MXalias I got a resent from MX to Postmaster because of %MXALIAS-E-SHOERR, error showing aliases matching MXLIST -RMS-E-RLK, target record currently locked by another stream when sending a message to the recipient last looked up, or when looking at the same record from system B. -PK ===================================================================== Peter Kobe Internet: Peter.Kobe@uni-bonn.de Physikalisches Institut HEPNET: 13562::SYSTEM Universitaet Bonn Tel: (49) 228 73 3222 D 53 Bonn FAX: (49) 228 73 7869 Nussallee 12 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 07:25:25 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 07:25:13 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <0097278F.9645BE7B.28273@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: MX ALIAS Database Peter Kobe writes: > >MXALIAS doesn't unlock records > >I looked up an alias record on machine A in the Cluster >I forgot to exit MXalias >I got a resent from MX to Postmaster because of > >%MXALIAS-E-SHOERR, error showing aliases matching MXLIST >-RMS-E-RLK, target record currently locked by another stream > >when sending a message to the recipient last looked up, or when >looking at the same record from system B. > Yeah, I found this a while back. I'll fix it in MX V3.4 (I actually intended for the unlock to happen, but forgot to do it). Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 11:52:11 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: MX need EXQUOTA privilege? Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 02:25:36 GMT Message-ID: To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET I have installed MX-mail v3.3. But it has a big problem. That is general user can send mail. But when I give the privilege of EXQUOTA to general user, then then general user can send mail, everything is OK. But why? Why it need exquota privilege? Does Mx-mail need some quota to swap or what? How many quota should I give it to general user? Thanks in advance. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 16:03:14 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: Re: MX need EXQUOTA privilege? Message-ID: <1993Sep13.191013.28933@colorado.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 19:10:13 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article , DINO@IMNV110 (DINO) writes: >I have installed MX-mail v3.3. But it has a big problem. That is general user >can send mail. But when I give the privilege of EXQUOTA to general user, then >then general user can send mail, everything is OK. But why? >Why it need exquota privilege? Does Mx-mail need some quota to swap or what? >How many quota should I give it to general user? >Thanks in advance. 1. What are the EXACT COMMANDS THE USER IS ENTERING THAT FAIL, and WHAT IS THE EXACT ERROR MESSAGE? I am usually quite willing to help people with most any problem, but you have a horrible habit of not including this vital information. My guesses, though: - If the user is trying to send an MX message, and the disk containing the MX queue files (usually MX_DEVICE) has disk quotas enabled, the user owning the queue files (usually [1,4], or [SYSTEM]) must have sufficient disk quotas on the disk. This is explained, in detail, in the MX installation -- a sample installation, which displays this warning, is included in appendex A of "Message Exchange Installation Guide" (MX_DOC:INSTALL_GUIDE.TXT). -dan -Dan Wing, Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing@eisner.decus.org ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 16:16:55 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 16:11:21 cst From: "David J. Effa - CMIS Technical Support" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: mx-list@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <009727D9.1610B7F6.11@cometa.cmis.abbott.com> Subject: New User -- How to??? Hi, I am a new user of MX and I am in the process of installing it (V3.3). I use TGV's Multinet V3.2C for my TCP connectivity. The MX installation manual states to disable the MultiNet smtp service and then restart the server which I did. My questions are: do I stop and delete the SMTP_queue and what about the process called "SMTP_Symbiont". Do I stop that process? What SMTP parts left from the standard MultiNet SMTP install do I keep? Part 2: ------- I want to interface this to DEC's All-In-One (A1) mail system via the Message Router so that an user can send and receive mail from A1 using SMTP? I would like MX to rewrite the rules so that an A1 username "last,first" would be rewritten as last.first@myhost.abbott.com first. Receiving mail of course would do the reverse, last.first --> last,first and onto A1. Right now it's configure using TGV's MultiNet's SMTP/MR configuration which works ok. Has anyone done this? Thanks, Dave effad@comet.cmis.abbott.com Abbott Labs ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 20:29:07 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: Re: MX need EXQUOTA privilege? Date: 14 Sep 1993 00:45:53 GMT Message-ID: <273481INN1b9@gap.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article , DINO@IMNV110 (DINO) writes: =I have installed MX-mail v3.3. But it has a big problem. That is general user =can send mail. But when I give the privilege of EXQUOTA to general user, then =then general user can send mail, everything is OK. But why? EXQUOTA allows you to exceed your disk quota. Make sure that the UIC under which MX runs has a large enough disk quota on the device pointed to by MX_FLQ_DIR resides. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 20:57:00 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 21:46:43 EDT From: Dan Wheeler Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.BITNET CC: manager@LEMOYNE.BITNET Message-ID: <00972807.EFFFA620.8472@lemoyne> Subject: Error messages questions? My config - VMS 5.5-2, Jnet 3.6 for BITNet, UCX 2.0 for local networking only, MX 3.3. I am getting occasional errors for mail received at VMS accounts (or addresses) with mail forwarding set to another campus machine (via MX SMTP using UCX connections). > > Note: this message was generated automatically. > > An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of > the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that > allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect > addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. > > --> Error description: > Error-For: operdave@lemoyne > Error-Code: 2 > Error-Text: Error in auto-forward from username OPERDAVE to: > > assign channel system service request failed > Error-End: 1 error detected > Where can I determine just what this means? I can't seem find it in the manuals (which of course does not mean that it isn't there). This seems to be an (almost) immediate rejection so I presume it is considered to be fatal, yet it is not predictable. I had a forwarding username suddenly start bouncing listserv messages and the campus system's manager reported the above only to have it stop (and start and stop) happening. I was guessing that some network resource was temporarily insufficient, but had expected that this would mean that MX would wait and try later. Second question: Is there anyway that such delivery error messages can be forwarded automatically to postmaster? Or is there a better way of tracking delivery errors. I didn't know about this problem until the LISTSERV manager reported it, and I know of others that have gone undetected for some time. If there isn't a way, should there be such an option or am I missing something else? --dan --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Wheeler Senior Support Analyst & VMS System Manager Office of Information Systems, Le Moyne College, Syracuse NY 13214-1399 Phone 315.445.4565 (Home 315.655.8193) MANAGER@LEMOYNE.BITNET --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 21:31:13 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: Re: New User -- How to??? Message-ID: <1993Sep14.020539.16007@colorado.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 02:05:39 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <009727D9.1610B7F6.11@cometa.cmis.abbott.com>, list-mgr%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU "David J. Effa - CMIS Technical Support" writes: >I am a new user of MX and I am in the process of installing it (V3.3). >I use TGV's Multinet V3.2C for my TCP connectivity. The MX installation >manual states to disable the MultiNet smtp service and then restart the >server which I did. My questions are: do I stop and delete the >SMTP_queue and what about the process called "SMTP_Symbiont". Do I stop >that process? What SMTP parts left from the standard MultiNet SMTP >install do I keep? You can just: $ STOP/QUEUE/NEXT server_queue $ DELETE/QUEUE server_queue You don't need to keep any parts of the MultiNet SMTP, as MX replaces all of 'em. >I want to interface this to DEC's All-In-One (A1) mail system via the >Message Router so that an user can send and receive mail from A1 using >SMTP? I would like MX to rewrite the rules so that an A1 username >"last,first" would be rewritten as last.first@myhost.abbott.com first. >Receiving mail of course would do the reverse, last.first --> last,first >and onto A1. Right now it's configure using TGV's MultiNet's SMTP/MR >configuration which works ok. > >Has anyone done this? Check the MX_ROOT:[CONTRIB] directory -- I believe there are some examples for interfacing with All-in-One. There's also a NICKNAME.ZIP in that directory which can translate VMS usernames to last.first@site format, but I doubt that it'll work with All- In-One (but I've never installed or used A1, so I could be 100% wrong on that!). :-) -dan -Dan Wing, Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing@eisner.decus.org ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 23:57:42 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Re: Error messages questions? Message-ID: <1993Sep14.024934.17647@colorado.edu> From: Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 02:49:34 GMT Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <00972807.EFFFA620.8472@lemoyne>, Dan Wheeler writes: >My config - VMS 5.5-2, Jnet 3.6 for BITNet, UCX 2.0 for local networking >only, MX 3.3. I am getting occasional errors for mail received at VMS >accounts (or addresses) with mail forwarding set to another campus >machine (via MX SMTP using UCX connections). > [...] >> --> Error description: >> Error-For: operdave@lemoyne >> Error-Code: 2 >> Error-Text: Error in auto-forward from username OPERDAVE to: >> >> assign channel system service request failed >> Error-End: 1 error detected What is the exact forwarding address set for user OPERDAVE?? That error "looks", to me, as if it might be a problem with MX being unable to get a UCX or JNET channel to send to the remote system, but I'm not sure (I've never seen that error, nor used UCX or JNET). It could also be a problem with access to your DNS -- I'm guessing (really bad) here, though.... It might be helpful to enable LOCAL debugging (see the MX Management Guide for information - MX_DOC:MGMT_GUIDE.TXT) and examining the logs to get more information about why the delivery is failing. The source module[.LOCAL]ERROR.B32 contains the code that creates this message, if that's helpful at all (the text "assign channel system service request failed" isn't in MX, so I suspect UCX or JNET must have generated this message. Also, by the way, "manager@admin1" isn't a legal, fully qualified address. That shouldn't cause the problem you're seeing, but it is a good idea to setup your forwarding using fully qualified addresses. (LEMOYNE appears to be a valid BITNET node, and I'm not sure if MX likes or requires a .BITNET on BITNET addresses -- anyone know?). [After writing this message, it doesn't seem there's a whole lot to offer in information ... but I'll send it off anyways....] >Where can I determine just what this means? I can't seem find it in the >manuals (which of course does not mean that it isn't there). This seems >to be an (almost) immediate rejection so I presume it is considered to >be fatal, yet it is not predictable. I had a forwarding username >suddenly start bouncing listserv messages and the campus system's >manager reported the above only to have it stop (and start and stop) >happening. I was guessing that some network resource was temporarily >insufficient, but had expected that this would mean that MX would wait >and try later. If MX thinks that waiting and retrying later will result in a chance of it working, it'll do so. Some things, like an account set to DisMail, will cause an immediate rejection; other things, such as failure to deliver to a remote DECnet node, will cause MX to queue the message and try again later. >Second question: Is there anyway that such delivery error messages can >be forwarded automatically to postmaster? You mean CC'd to PostMaster. I believe that Hunter has this on the list for V3.4. -Dan Wing, Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing@eisner.decus.org ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 11:22:56 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: You have been added... messages Date: 14 Sep 1993 15:41:49 GMT Message-ID: <274ont$b2r@samba.oit.unc.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Can This Be Done? I've got a mailing list. The mailing list has an add message defined. The mailing list also has a Frequently Asked Questions list, which is posted regularly. What I want to do is automatically have MX send both the "You have been added..." message *and* the FAQ list when someone subscribes to the list. I do *not* want to make the FAQ part of the add message, because that will give me two files to have to keep in sync whenever the FAQ changes. Any ideas how to do this? Thanks. -- Dennis R. Sherman Triangle Research Libraries Network dennis_sherman@unc.edu Univ. of North Carolina - Chapel Hill ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 11:42:39 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 11:31:07 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <0097287B.1AC319F0.28835@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: You have been added... messages writes: > >Can This Be Done? > Short answer: no. >What I want to do is automatically have MX send both the "You have >been added..." message *and* the FAQ list when someone subscribes to >the list. > >I do *not* want to make the FAQ part of the add message, because that >will give me two files to have to keep in sync whenever the FAQ >changes. > >Any ideas how to do this? That's it. If you wanted to be really industrious 8-), you could hack up something using SITE, but it wouldn't be trivial. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 12:17:15 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Re: Name conversion and its uses... Message-ID: <1993Sep14.150400.207@cesi.it> From: meregalli@cesi.it Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: 14 Sep 93 15:04:00 +0200 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <00972563.A909F0A0.28485@tchden.org>, "Louis B. Moore" writes: > >> >>%INSTALL-W-NOGBLSEC, no global sections created >> for DISK$DISK11:MX_NAME_CONVERSION.EXE >> > > I'll have it repaired > as soon as possible. That's OK. > >>After that I RESET the MX router but name conversion doesn't work! >> >>Any hint? > > Even with the Install warning the nick name conversion works at our site. > Can you tell if the .exe is hit at all? > Do the users you are testing have entries in the lookup file? > The problem was that I had put lowercase characters in the file: now if usernames are in lowercase nothing works; if nick names contain lowercase characters, messages go out as desired, but they are unrepliable, because the LOCAL agent gets the address all uppercase! I had messages going out with From: Alberto.Meregalli@cesi.it, but when the reply was incoming, the LOCAL agent looked for ALBERTO.MEREGALLI ad found none! So it seems that it's mandatory to write ALL in uppercase in the lookup file: do you agree? If that's true, it would be nice to mention it in the doc. With that restriction all works fine now! Thanks! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alberto Meregalli, SIC tel. +39 2 2125 249 CESI, Centro Elettrotecnico Sperimentale Italiano fax +39 2 2125 520 Via Rubattino, 54 - I 21034 Milano E-mail: meregalli@cesi.it ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 15:34:12 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 14:58:18 CDT From: "David J. Effa - CMIS Technical Support" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00972898.0BFE6AF5.124@comet.cmis.abbott.com> Subject: MX SMTP existing with error Hi, I am running MX Version 3.3 and recently I started to receive the following error. It seem to start after I defined a rewrite rule of: DEFINE REWRITE_RULE - "<{last}.{first}@a1.abbott.com>" - "" The process MX SMTP dies quickly when I send using this rule. File: [mx.smtp]mx_smtp_cometc.log ------------------------------- %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=00000000, PC=000031DB, PSL=03C00004 %TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows module name routine name line rel PC abs PC SMTP_OUT SMTP_SEND 222 0000013F 000031DB PROCESS PROCESS 319 000003B7 0000269F MX_SMTP MX_SMTP 30 00000214 00001C74 Anyone have any clues? -Dave -- ---------------------+-----------------------------+----------------------- David J. Effa | effad@comet.cmis.abbott.com | Voice: +1 708 938 4382 Abbott Laboratories | Dept 048 Bldg AP14B | FAX: +1 708 938 5172 One Abbott Park Road | Abbott Park, IL 60064 USA | ---------------------+-----------------------------+----------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 16:20:37 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 13:45:38 MST From: "Louis B. Moore" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Message-ID: <0097288D.E547D960.29682@tchden.org> Subject: Re: Name conversion and its uses... >The problem was that I had put lowercase characters in the file: now I did force everything to upper case so that it would not matter how the address dragged in. In retrospect I wish I had done it all in lowercase but I am used to uppercase in VMS and it colored my judgement. >So it seems that it's mandatory to write ALL in uppercase in the >lookup file: do you agree? If that's true, it would be nice to mention >it in the doc. I'll add something along those lines before the next distribution. >With that restriction all works fine now! Thanks! You are welcome. Thank you for your ideas. Louis B. Moore Internet: MOORE.LOUIS@tchden.org Systems Programmer Phone: +1.303.837.2513 The Children's Hospital of Denver Denver, Colorado USA 80218 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 17:11:12 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: RE: MX and VMS V6.0 Message-ID: <1993Sep14.084850.18237@alpha.montagar.com> From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: 14 Sep 93 08:48:50 CDT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <00972780.99FCCDA7.28216@WKUVX1.BITNET>, "Hunter Goatley, WKU" writes: > writes: >> >>I am currently running the latest version of MX under VMS version 5.5-2 and >>want to upgrade to VMS V6.0. Are there any know problems with doing this? >>Thanks. > > It works; there are several sites using MX with VMS V6.0. I'll second that! > Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University > goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - David L. Cathey |INET: davidc@montagar.com Montagar Software Concepts |UUCP: ...!montagar!davidc P. O. Box 260772, Plano TX 75026-0772 |Fone: (214)-618-2117 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 17:11:32 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: RE: MX and VMS V6.0 Message-ID: <1993Sep14.090542.232@tachyon.com> Date: 14 Sep 93 09:05:42 CDT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <00972780.99FCCDA7.28216@WKUVX1.BITNET>, "Hunter Goatley, WKU" writes: > writes: >> >>I am currently running the latest version of MX under VMS version 5.5-2 and >>want to upgrade to VMS V6.0. Are there any know problems with doing this? >>Thanks. > > It works; there are several sites using MX with VMS V6.0. > > Hunter > ------ > Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University > goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) I am running v6 here. No problems of any kind with MX. I haven't had problems with *anything* under version 6. -- ============================================================================== Wayne Sewell |INET: wayne@tachyon.com Tachyon Software Consulting |UUCP: uupsi!uupsi6!tachyon!wayne P. O. Box 550937, Dallas TX 75355-0937 |Voice: (214)-553-9760, Fax: -553-0077 ============================================================================= Larry:"Fish is brain food." Moe:"You need a whale." (WHACK!!) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 18:03:22 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 14:46:12 -0700 From: "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: rharwood@Data.Basix.COM Message-ID: <00972896.5B9F96E0.6889@Data.Basix.COM> Subject: RE: You have been added... messages > >What I want to do is automatically have MX send both the "You have > >been added..." message *and* the FAQ list when someone subscribes to > >the list. > >I do *not* want to make the FAQ part of the add message, because that > >will give me two files to have to keep in sync whenever the FAQ > >changes. > > If you wanted to be really industrious 8-), you could hack up > something using SITE, but it wouldn't be trivial. Seems like you could hack MLF code to work like MXserver, to (for example) look for files like MLF_ADD_MESSAGE.. A "do-it-now" approach would be to include in the Add Message something to the effect of "Please retrieve a copy of the XYZ-List FAQ file by sending EMail to XYZ-Files@myhost.mydom.EDU with a one-line body of SEND FAQ", and set up a fileservice to respond accordingly. Ray ----- Ray Harwood | Data Basix | Adjunct Faculty, East Campus, Voice: (602)721-1988 | PO Box 18324 | Pima Community College FAX: (602)721-7240 | Tucson, AZ 85731 | Instructor in Ada and Pascal rharwood@Data.Basix.COM | Info@Data.Basix.COM | rharwood@east.pima.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 18:29:23 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 18:29:09 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <009728B5.8080BD3A.29045@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: You have been added... messages "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" writes: > >> If you wanted to be really industrious 8-), you could hack up >> something using SITE, but it wouldn't be trivial. > >Seems like you could hack MLF code to work like MXserver, to (for example) look >for files like MLF_ADD_MESSAGE.. > That's always true, but I didn't suggest that since most people don't know BLISS.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 04:45:34 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 11:39:31 +0100 From: Per Hogstedt Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Receipt confirmation requests To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00972945.71678140.13726@plab.se> I have been having troubles with Receipt confirmation requests in the header of mail sent in to a list. The problem seems to be restricted to subscribers using Pegasus Mail. This is from one of the headers: >To: BioMagList@plab.se >Message-ID: >Reply-To: BioMagList@plab.se >Organization: Psychologie, RUG >X-Envelope-to: BioMagList@plab.se >X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R4). >Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >Priority: normal >X-pmrqc: 1 I assume it is the last line that triggers other Pegasus mailers to send a "Receipt confirmation" message - and guess where? Yep right back to the listserver... Since most of you reading this also manage lists, I take it you understand that my hopes for being able to educate the subscribers not to use this "feature" are minimal. Remains: Can I convince MX to filter out the lines in the header that triggers this rat race? We are at MX v3.2 and VMS 5.5-2 right now. Thanks in advance, Per ------- Per Hogstedt, Lindholmen Utveckling, Box 8714, S-402 75 Gothenburg, Sweden Internet: hogstedt@plab.se (or: hogstedt@ae.chalmers.se) Phone: +46 31 50 70 50, Fax +46 31 51 53 13, MiniCall: +46 74 35 68 49 ------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 06:50:00 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 06:49:47 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <0097291C.F7B68FA3.29365@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: Receipt confirmation requests Per Hogstedt writes: > >I have been having troubles with Receipt confirmation requests in the >header of mail sent in to a list. The problem seems to be restricted >to subscribers using Pegasus Mail. This is from one of the headers: > [...] >I assume it is the last line that triggers other Pegasus mailers to >send a "Receipt confirmation" message - and guess where? Yep right back >to the listserver... > Yeah, it's a major pain. >Since most of you reading this also manage lists, I take it you understand >that my hopes for being able to educate the subscribers not to use >this "feature" are minimal. > I've had good luck with it on the only list where that's been a problem. >Remains: Can I convince MX to filter out the lines in the header that >triggers this rat race? > Currently, no. The interesting thing about this is that the receiving user's PMAIL does this automatically in response to getting the message. There appears to be no way for a recipient to disable that, which I suppose makes some sense in a way, but it's awfully confusing because the the user from whom the receipt confirmations come can do nothing about the situation. It's the *sender* that must disable that on his end. I'll add this ability to the wish list.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 08:01:09 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 14:58:08 +0100 From: Per Hogstedt Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: RE: Receipt confirmation requests To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.edu Message-ID: <00972961.30868D80.13750@plab.se> Hunter responded: >The interesting thing about this is that the receiving user's PMAIL >does this automatically in response to getting the message. There >appears to be no way for a recipient to disable that, which I suppose >makes some sense in a way, but it's awfully confusing because the >the user from whom the receipt confirmations come can do nothing about >the situation. It's the *sender* that must disable that on his end. Yes, it's much the same as in All-in-1. Right or wrong, some users claim that they don't like the idea of being "watched" this way. Someone asked me for a switch in All-in-1 EM, that would result in any message demanding this kind of confirmations being returned to sender with a "I don't acknowledge this stuff - feel free to send messages to me, but stay off my back". Needless to say, he never got that switch :-) >I'll add this ability to the wish list.... Appreciated. Thinking of how unpredictable the X-header info tends to be, and the fact that any software producer can use it for whatever purposes, it would be nice if this filter could be configured locally, like a KILL_THESE_HEADERS.DAT file. That way we could cope with situations like this without the need for updates of MX. (You can probably find at least ten good reasons why not... :-)) >Hunter >------ >Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University >goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) Per ------- Per Hogstedt, Lindholmen Utveckling, Box 8714, S-402 75 Gothenburg, Sweden Internet: hogstedt@plab.se (or: hogstedt@ae.chalmers.se) Phone: +46 31 50 70 50, Fax +46 31 51 53 13 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 08:03:27 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 08:03:11 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00972927.38B448B0.29422@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: Receipt confirmation requests Per Hogstedt writes: > >>I'll add this ability to the wish list.... > >Appreciated. Thinking of how unpredictable the X-header info tends to be, >and the fact that any software producer can use it for whatever purposes, >it would be nice if this filter could be configured locally, like a >KILL_THESE_HEADERS.DAT file. That way we could cope with situations like >this without the need for updates of MX. (You can probably find at least >ten good reasons why not... :-)) > 8-) Actually, something along those lines is what I put in the wish list for just the reason you mentioned. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 08:53:13 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 09:29:32 EDT From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: WKUVX1.BITNET!MX-list@esseye.si.com Message-ID: <00972933.48AEDF80.9418@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: Receipt confirmation requests Per Hogstedt (hogstedt@plab.se) writes: >Yes, it's much the same as in All-in-1. Right or wrong, some users claim >that they don't like the idea of being "watched" this way. Someone asked >me for a switch in All-in-1 EM, that would result in any message demanding >this kind of confirmations being returned to sender with a "I don't >acknowledge this stuff - feel free to send messages to me, but stay >off my back". Needless to say, he never got that switch :-) This made me smile. Obviously the person requesting this didn't stop to think that if his mailer always send back this kind of message to a return-receipt request, the "I don't acknowledge..." message *becomes* the return-receipt. The sender of the mail *still* finds out when the mail gets read, just with different words. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- Brian Tillman | Internet: tillman@swdev.si.com Smiths Industries, Inc. | tillman_brian@si.com 4141 Eastern Ave., MS129 | Hey, I said this stuff myself. Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 11:12:41 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 12:05:51 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <00972949.1F2244C0.22502@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Receipt confirmation requests > Remains: Can I convince MX to filter out the lines in the header that > triggers this rat race? Hunter says it can't be done -- I take that as a challenge. Let's say that you're running: List17@Myvax.podunk.edu There are several variations on this theme. Define an alias for Myvax, say, Lvax, and have incomming messages for the list sent there. (For lists already established, I presume that you can forward List17 to List17@Lvax.podunk.edu.) In the PATH statements, direct all mail to Lvax to the SITE agent (rather than LOCAL), and have SITE_DELIVER.COM filter out any offending lines of the _incomming_ message. (This is simple to do with EDT, with the cost of filtering them out in the body of the message as well as the header. Otherwise, a small, custom program would be needed to do it.) SITE changes the address from Lvax to Myvax, and so the next pass through the router delivers the mail to the MLP. No, I haven't tried it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 12:39:37 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 12:37:29 CST From: "David J. Effa - CMIS Technical Support" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <0097294D.8A9DFB6D.329@comet.cmis.abbott.com> Subject: MX Rewrite Problems I need help with a MCP REWRITE_RULE? I am trying to rewrite the mail address that has the form of @a1.abbott.com. For example: incoming mail to effa.david@a1.abbott.com will rewrite into comet::mrgate::"a1::effa,david" using DECnet as the transport. MRGATE is a gateway. I have defined a REWRITE_RULE for this as: DEFINE REWRITE_RULE - "<{last}.{first}@a1.abbott.com>" - "" When MX uses this rule, the MX SMTP program terminates with the following error: (from the smtp log file) 14-SEP-1993 18:41:47.62: MX SMTP (pid 20424208) starting 14-SEP-1993 18:42:33.89: MX SMTP (pid 20424208) exiting, status = 1000000C I have turned on debugging for the SMTP process and the log file contains: 14-SEP-1993 18:42:32.87 Processing queue entry number 281 on node COMETC 14-SEP-1993 18:42:33.48 Recipient: , route= 14-SEP-1993 18:42:33.48 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name ... process dies ... Can anyone help me? -Dave -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= David J. Effa | Abbott Laboratories | Internet: effad@comet.cmis.abbott.com Dept 048 Bldg AP14B | Voice: +1 708 938 4382 One Abbott Park Road | FAX: +1 708 938 5172 Abbott Park, IL 60064 USA | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Any Options Expressed By The Speaker/Management, May Not Necessarily Be Those of the Management/Speaker. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 15:13:45 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: SMTP-decnet router Message-ID: <1993Sep15.163653.18082@uts.uni-c.dk> From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 16:36:53 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Hi I have a problem configuring my MX. I've got two VAXes, MASTER and SLAVE MASTER has TCP/IP (UCX 1.3) and MX 3.3. SLAVE has only a DECNET connection to MASTER, and no MX. I want SLAVE (via. MASTER through DECNET) to be able to handle mails ala: user@slave.domain.org MASTER allready handles mails ala: user@master.domain.org So far I've in MCP defined a path: MCP> define path "slave.domain.org" local and I defined a rewrite rule: MCP> define rewrite "<{user}@slave.domain.org>" - "<""slave::{user}""@master.domain.org>" I'm now able to SEND mails correctly to a user on SLAVE with syntax: user@slave.domain.org But when a user from SLAVE sends a mail, using the syntax: To: MASTER::MX%"user1@host1.domain1.org1" - then at host1.domain1.org1 the from-address is wrong (so that user1 can't reply on it). It looks like: "slave::user"@master.domain.org What I want is: user@slave.domain.org How can I solve this problem? Regards Niels Carl Hansen System Mananger ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 15:15:12 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Re: SMTP-decnet router Message-ID: <1993Sep15.161354.4508@colorado.edu> From: Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 16:13:54 GMT Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <1993Sep15.163653.18082@uts.uni-c.dk>, RECNH@vms2.uni-c.dk (Niels Carl Hansen) writes: >I've got two VAXes, MASTER and SLAVE (The next one should be named WHIP! :-)) >MASTER has TCP/IP (UCX 1.3) and MX 3.3. >SLAVE has only a DECNET connection to MASTER, and no MX. Are they in a cluster? >I want SLAVE (via. MASTER through DECNET) to be able to handle mails ala: >user@slave.domain.org >MASTER allready handles mails ala: user@master.domain.org >So far I've in MCP defined a path: >MCP> define path "slave.domain.org" local >and I defined a rewrite rule: >MCP> define rewrite "<{user}@slave.domain.org>" - > "<""slave::{user}""@master.domain.org>" > >I'm now able to SEND mails correctly to a user on SLAVE with syntax: >user@slave.domain.org >But when a user from SLAVE sends a mail, using the syntax: >To: MASTER::MX%"user1@host1.domain1.org1" >- then at host1.domain1.org1 the from-address is wrong (so that user1 can't >reply on it). It looks like: "slave::user"@master.domain.org >What I want is: user@slave.domain.org There is nothing illegal about the address <"slave::user"@master.domain.org>. I just re-read RFC822, and the local-part of the address is: local-part = word *("." word) ; uninterpreted ; case-preserved and word = atom / quoted-string So the mailer at host1.domain1.org1 is probably mis-configured if it can't reply to an address of that form. However, to get the address rewriting that you desire, you need to install MX on both MASTER and SLAVE, and use MX's SMTP-over-DECnet; this also allows users on SLAVE to not have to be concerned if MASTER is up and running when they want to send mail, as both SLAVE and MASTER will be able to do store-and-forwarding of Email. -Dan Wing, Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing@eisner.decus.org ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 15:15:36 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: RE: Receipt confirmation requests Message-ID: <1993Sep15.155501.3627@colorado.edu> From: Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 15:55:01 GMT Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <0097291C.F7B68FA3.29365@WKUVX1.BITNET>, "Hunter Goatley, WKU" writes: >>Remains: Can I convince MX to filter out the lines in the header that >>triggers this rat race? >> >Currently, no. > >The interesting thing about this is that the receiving user's PMAIL >does this automatically in response to getting the message. There >appears to be no way for a recipient to disable that, which I suppose >makes some sense in a way, but it's awfully confusing because the >the user from whom the receipt confirmations come can do nothing about >the situation. It's the *sender* that must disable that on his end. > >I'll add this ability to the wish list.... Hey, you could add the ability to strip "Fruit-of-the-day:" headers, too! Just kidding. On Pegasus, a user that receives mail marked with 'receipt confirmation' can change the behavior of the 'receipt confirmation' but can't disable it. This requires extra rights within Netware not normally granted to users: from the main Pegasus menu, select "Preferences" and "edit eXtended preferences" -- if you don't have the extended preferences on your menu, then you don't have the necessary rights within Netware -- check the Pegasus mail docs (I don't know how to set this up). HOWEVER, Hunter is correct that this can't be turned off. From the description of "Honour requests for confirmation?": If you enter N in this field, then Pmail will not honour requests for confirmation of your having read a message. (And we all start cheering, but then it continues with:) A user requesting confirmation of delivery will be told at the instant of mailing that you will not accept their request for confirmation, ... (and we want to ring the neck of the author of Pegasus mail for this implementation design). [This is under Pegasus mail version 2.3 R3] ... a possible workaround would be to change your list so the replies go to the original poster (who will receive all the confirmations -- which is cool because he/she asked for them!), but that has the side effect of possibly reducing how much people post to the list (most of the replies will end up going to individual people instead of the list). -Dan Wing, Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing@eisner.decus.org ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 15:15:57 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Re: MX SMTP existing with error Message-ID: <1993Sep15.093618.3659@inland.com> From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: 15 Sep 93 09:36:18 CST To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <00972898.0BFE6AF5.124@comet.cmis.abbott.com>, list-mgr%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU"David J. Effa - CMIS Technical Support" writes: > Hi, > > I am running MX Version 3.3 and recently I started to receive the following > error. It seem to start after I defined a rewrite rule of: > > DEFINE REWRITE_RULE - > "<{last}.{first}@a1.abbott.com>" - > "" > > The process MX SMTP dies quickly when I send using this rule. > > > File: [mx.smtp]mx_smtp_cometc.log > ------------------------------- > %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=00000000, > PC=000031DB, PSL=03C00004 > %TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows > module name routine name line rel PC abs PC > > SMTP_OUT SMTP_SEND 222 0000013F 000031DB > PROCESS PROCESS 319 000003B7 0000269F > MX_SMTP MX_SMTP 30 00000214 00001C74 > Let's look at what appears to be happening: MX received a message to The Router rewrote that to and then queued the message for delivery via SMTP <----!!!! You probably need to define the rewrite so that Path processing can recognize it and push it into the Local agent. Since the Path processing only looks at the domain half of the address the result side of the rewrite rule could be: "<'mrgate::""a1::{last},{first}""'@local>" Then define a path define path local local You are going to have to play with the left hand side to get the quoting right. The entire left hand side needs to be quoted so that you can hide the ":"'s. But why is the SMTP agent crashing? There appears to be a problem in the SMTP agent that incorrectly specified domains cause the agent to crash with an ACCVIO. I've seen it do this and have made a note of it. I doing some other work in the SMTP agent and will look at it then. The best answer is to be proactive - don't let the incorrectly specified domain in to the SMTP agent and it won't crash. --- Tom Tom Allebrandi | At home I have three cats.... Inland Steel Research Labs | Allebrandi@Research.Inland.Com | ...their names are "/", "." and ".." ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 16:31:22 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 23:20:59 +0100 From: Per Hogstedt Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: RE: Receipt confirmation requests To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.edu Message-ID: <009729A7.70071A60.13835@plab.se> Dan Wing wrote: >On Pegasus, a user that receives mail marked with 'receipt confirmation' >can change the behavior of the 'receipt confirmation' but can't disable it. >This requires extra rights within Netware not normally granted to users: > [...] >... a possible workaround would be to change your list so the replies go to >the original poster (who will receive all the confirmations -- which is >cool because he/she asked for them!), but that has the side effect of >possibly reducing how much people post to the list (most of the replies >will end up going to individual people instead of the list). Thanks for the clarifications; now I feel as confused as before, but at a much higher level :-) No, seriously, this was what I needed to know to be able to tell these people step by step just what to do. So now I can sit back and wait for the fix from Howard (and for the day the guy who wrote Pegasus comes to Sweden...). Thanks for your assistance, Per ------- Per Hogstedt, Lindholmen Utveckling, Box 8714, S-402 75 Gothenburg, Sweden Internet: hogstedt@plab.se (or: hogstedt@ae.chalmers.se) Phone: +46 31 50 70 50, Fax +46 31 51 53 13 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 19:51:46 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 20:18:42 EDT From: Bill Southerly Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: e2pysou@fre.fsu.umd.edu Message-ID: <0097298D.F8A68820.8967@fre.fsu.umd.edu> Subject: RE: Receipt confirmation requests Date sent: 15-SEP-1993 20:08:12 >Since most of you reading this also manage lists, I take it you understand >that my hopes for being able to educate the subscribers not to use >this "feature" are minimal. Though we have not solved this problem either, one of my Pegasus mail users suggested an approach that has limited a large proportion of these. He suggested that all users of Pegasus mail should routinely run a directory on their mail BEFORE they start reading it. If a RECEIPT CONFIRMATION is discovered then he reads the first one to determine the offending piece of mail (ie., the one that will trigger a receipt confirmation when he reads it) and then he DELETES it. Instead of getting 30-50 of these at a time, we now get 5- 10. Not a solution but a help! Now the bad news. On our last episode, we had a receipt confirmation from a piece of software other than Pegasus mail (possibly All-in-one?). No name was found to identify the offending software, but there may be a new kid on the block to make list management even more interesting. One additional piece of information, the Pegasus user who came up with the idea said this may not work soon because an upgrade of this software would send confirmations not for MAIL READ but instead for MAIL RECEIVED! I have no idea if this is accurate, however, I pass it on to add fuel to your nightmares! ********************************************************************** * BILL SOUTHERLY INTERNET: E2PYSOU@FRE.FSU.UMD.EDU * * DEPT. OF PSYCHOLOGY BITNET: E2PYSOU@FRE.TOWSON.EDU * * FROSTBURG STATE UNIVERSITY PHONE: (301) 689-4193 * * FROSTBURG, MARYLAND USA 21532 * ********************************************************************** ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 23:28:16 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: RE: Receipt confirmation requests Message-ID: <1993Sep16.034234.1@sejnet.sunet.se> From: Date: 16 Sep 93 03:42:34 WET Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET What I'm not sure I understand is whether there messages go to the 'Reply-To:' or SMTP MAIL FROM: field (I suspect the former) and what they look like. Could someone post a sample? Eric ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 23:37:44 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 23:37:30 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <009729A9.BE52FF61.29860@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: Receipt confirmation requests writes: > >What I'm not sure I understand is whether there messages go to the 'Reply-To:' >or SMTP MAIL FROM: field (I suspect the former) and what they look like. Could >someone post a sample? > Yes, it uses the "Reply-To:" address. I don't have one around anymore, but I'm sure someone else does.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 16:23:10 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: RE: Receipt confirmation requests Message-ID: <1993Sep16.165612.18205@news.arc.nasa.gov> From: Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 16:56:12 GMT Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <1993Sep16.034234.1@sejnet.sunet.se>, eric@sejnet.sunet.se (Eric Thomas) writes: >What I'm not sure I understand is whether there messages go to the 'Reply-To:' >or SMTP MAIL FROM: field (I suspect the former) and what they look like. Could >someone post a sample? For some mailers, at least, the address is specified in the return-receipt header itself. MultiNet's mailer, for example, will do delivery receipts (if you explicitly enable them) when it sees one of the following headers: Delivery-Receipt-To: user@host Return-Receipt-To: user@host That way there's no ambiguity about it. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | madison@tgv.com | +1 408 457 5200 TGV, Inc. | 101 Cooper Street | Santa Cruz, CA 95060 USA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 21:47:50 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Re: MX Rewrite Problems Message-ID: <27aok5INNqeg@gap.caltech.edu> From: Date: 16 Sep 1993 22:16:37 GMT Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <0097294D.8A9DFB6D.329@comet.cmis.abbott.com>, list-mgr%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU"David J. Effa - CMIS Technical Support" writes: =I need help with a MCP REWRITE_RULE? I am trying to rewrite the mail =address that has the form of @a1.abbott.com. For example: incoming mail =to effa.david@a1.abbott.com will rewrite into comet::mrgate::"a1::effa,david" =using DECnet as the transport. MRGATE is a gateway. = =I have defined a REWRITE_RULE for this as: = =DEFINE REWRITE_RULE - = "<{last}.{first}@a1.abbott.com>" - = "" = =When MX uses this rule, the MX SMTP program terminates with the =following error: Try, instead: DEFINE REWRITE_RULE - "<{last}.{first}@a1.abbott.com>" - "<""comet::mrgate::""""a1::{last},{first}""""""@comet.cmis.abbott.com>" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 01:10:20 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Re: MX Rewrite Problems Message-ID: <1993Sep15.230808.4315@colorado.edu> From: Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 23:08:08 GMT Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <0097294D.8A9DFB6D.329@comet.cmis.abbott.com>, list-mgr%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU"David J. Effa - CMIS Technical Support" writes: >14-SEP-1993 18:42:33.48 Recipient: > , route= I don't believe this is an RFC822-compliant address; as the colon (:) requires the local-part be quoted; something like (and I've probably got the syntax wrong): <"comet::mrgate::\\a1::EEFA,DAVID\\"@comet.cmis.abbott.com> would be legal -- basically, you need to quote the everything to the left of the "@" if it contains a colon anywhere in it -- if you want to then have quotes around another set of stuff within that string, you have to use backslash (or forwardslash, I don't recall) characters. Pretty ugly no matter which way its done, though.... -Dan Wing, Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing@eisner.decus.org ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 08:03:47 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 08:59:46 EDT From: "Robin Tuttle, 862-3228" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: mx-list%wkuvx1.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu CC: r_tuttle@nhnet.unh.edu Message-ID: <00972AC1.74F55940.9926@nhnet.unh.edu> Subject: incoming mail remaining in queue MX folks: I'm a fairly novice VMS system manager with a problem. I've just upgraded a machine from VMS 5.5-2 running UCX 2.0 with MX 3.3 to OpenVMS 6.0. Only problem is, incoming mail is remaining in the MX queue and not getting delivered. I've turned on debugging, but nothing is showing up in the log files. None of the messages have any error messages attached. I've shutdown and restarted MX, hoping that would do the trick but it hasn't. Any advice would be appreciated. Many thanks! *!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!* *!* Robin M. Tuttle ! *!* *!* Computing & Information Services ! INTERNET: *!* *!* University of New Hampshire ! r_tuttle@nhnet.unh.edu *!* *!* Room M115A, Kingsbury Hall ! *!* *!* 33 College Road ! VOICE MAIL: *!* *!* Durham, NH 03824-3591 ! (603)862-3228 *!* *!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 08:06:44 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 08:06:24 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00972ABA.008067BE.30714@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: incoming mail remaining in queue "Robin Tuttle, 862-3228" writes: > >MX folks: > >I'm a fairly novice VMS system manager with a problem. I've just >upgraded a machine from VMS 5.5-2 running UCX 2.0 with MX 3.3 to >OpenVMS 6.0. Only problem is, incoming mail is remaining in the MX >queue and not getting delivered. I've turned on debugging, but >nothing is showing up in the log files. What debugging? The relevant ones for incoming messages would be MX_ROUTER_DEBUG and MX_LOCAL_DEBUG. Have you turned both on? >None of the messages have any >error messages attached. I've shutdown and restarted MX, hoping that >would do the trick but it hasn't. Any advice would be appreciated. > Without more info, that's all I can offer. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 09:07:52 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 10:04:57 EDT From: "Robin Tuttle, 862-3228" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Message-ID: <00972ACA.90711700.9954@nhnet.unh.edu> Subject: RE: incoming mail remaining in queue Hunter: Here's more info on our mail being stuck in the queue: I did turn on router & local debugging. Nothing is showing up in the local area, but I'm now getting logs in the router area. Following is a typical queue entry and its corresponding router log entry: Entry: 5816, Origin: [SMTP] Status: IN-PROGRESS, size: 12 bytes Created: 17-SEP-1993 07:59:57.94, expires 17-OCT-1993 07:59:57.94 Last modified 17-SEP-1993 08:19:23.43 LOCAL entry #5823, status: READY, size: 12 bytes Created: 17-SEP-1993 08:19:23.11, expires 17-OCT-1993 07:59:57.94 Last modified 17-SEP-1993 08:19:23.47 Recipient #1: r_tuttle, Route=govnet.unh.edu 17-SEP-1993 07:59:59.38 %PROCESS, Processing entry number 5816 17-SEP-1993 07:59:59.52 %PROCESS, Status from READ_INFO was 00000001 17-SEP-1993 07:59:59.52 %PROCESS, Recipient #0: 17-SEP-1993 07:59:59.52 %REWRITE, No rewrite rules matched 17-SEP-1993 07:59:59.55 %FINDPATH, Site-spec expand on govnet.unh.edu err=00000000 17-SEP-1993 07:59:59.55 %FINDPATH, domain name GOVNET.UNH.EDU matched path pattern GOVNET.UNH.EDU 17-SEP-1993 07:59:59.55 %PROCESS, Rewrote as - next hop govnet.unh.edu, path 1 17-SEP-1993 07:59:59.55 %FINDALIAS, no alias found for r_tuttle 17-SEP-1993 07:59:59.55 %PROCESS, no alias found for r_tuttle 17-SEP-1993 07:59:59.55 %PROCESS, this is just a local delivery 17-SEP-1993 07:59:59.61 %PROCESS, Adding to LOCAL path: r_tuttle. 17-SEP-1993 07:59:59.89 %PROCESS, Path LOCAL gets 1 rcpts, entry number 5817 I've pored over the manuals and I just don't know what I'm missing. Again, many thanks! *!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!* *!* Robin M. Tuttle ! *!* *!* Computing & Information Services ! INTERNET: *!* *!* University of New Hampshire ! r_tuttle@nhnet.unh.edu *!* *!* Room M115A, Kingsbury Hall ! *!* *!* 33 College Road ! VOICE MAIL: *!* *!* Durham, NH 03824-3591 ! (603)862-3228 *!* *!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 09:24:09 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 09:23:13 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00972AC4.BBC6E151.30746@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: incoming mail remaining in queue "Robin Tuttle, 862-3228" writes: > >Hunter: > >Here's more info on our mail being stuck in the queue: > >I did turn on router & local debugging. Nothing is showing up >in the local area, but I'm now getting logs in the router area. >Following is a typical queue entry and its corresponding router >log entry: > [...] >I've pored over the manuals and I just don't know what I'm missing. > Hmmm. Everything there looked OK. This is, no doubt, a stupid question, but have you checked to make sure the MX Local process is out there? Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 10:14:39 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 11:09:16 EDT From: "Robin Tuttle, 862-3228" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Message-ID: <00972AD3.8C435CC0.9996@nhnet.unh.edu> Subject: RE: incoming mail remaining in queue No, it is not a stupid question. Although I checked to make sure the MX files where running, I neglected to notice that the MX Local process wasn't. I've tried to start it by shutting down MX & restarting it, and I've tried to do it by saving the configuration file & rerunning the config, but to no avail. I didn't see anything in the manual that said how to start the process individually. Any suggestions? *!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!* *!* Robin M. Tuttle ! *!* *!* Computing & Information Services ! INTERNET: *!* *!* University of New Hampshire ! r_tuttle@nhnet.unh.edu *!* *!* Room M115A, Kingsbury Hall ! *!* *!* 33 College Road ! VOICE MAIL: *!* *!* Durham, NH 03824-3591 ! (603)862-3228 *!* *!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 10:24:44 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 10:24:18 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00972ACD.448B8859.30774@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: incoming mail remaining in queue "Robin Tuttle, 862-3228" writes: > >No, it is not a stupid question. Although I checked to make >sure the MX files where running, I neglected to notice that >the MX Local process wasn't. I've tried to start it by >shutting down MX & restarting it, and I've tried to do it by >saving the configuration file & rerunning the config, but to >no avail. I didn't see anything in the manual that said how >to start the process individually. Any suggestions? > It should start automatically by MX_STARTUP, so it sounds like it's dying for some reason. Try: o Looking for the logs in MX_LOCAL_DIR:MX_LOCAL_LOG.LOG o Check ACCOUNTING to see what the exit status is for that process o You can start it by hand using @SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP LOCAL Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 13:13:03 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 14:03:17 -0400 Message-ID: <9309171803.AA02793@genrad.com> From: dongray@genrad.com Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET X-MX-Warning: Warning -- Invalid "To" header. To: "mx-list%wkuvx1.bitnet@ukcc.uky.edu" Subject: Adding system users to MX I currently manager 2 clusters an 4 standalone systems; this will increase before the end of the year. I would like to control all the lists on the various machines from anywhere I am logged into. Unfortunately, this means putting all 6 possible addresses into the SYSTEM_USERS list on all 6 systems. Then I want to add SYSTEM and my assistant too... So now I'm entering 18 addresses... Then in October, when we add a new cluster it will go to 21 addresses... Then in October, when we add a fourth cluster it will go to 24 addresses... Basically, I'm asking for ADD and REMOVE commands to be added to manipulate the list of SYSTEM_USERS. Or some wildcard mechanism that basically says is a system user. Could this be put in the wish list? (It may already be there). Derek. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name : Derek Dongray, Systems Manager, GenRad Ltd. Phone : 061 486 1511 InterNet : Dongray@GenRad.com UKnet : Derek.Dongray@GenRad.co.uk PSS : 234261600119::Dongray CompuServe : 70374,2745 Address : Monmouth House, Monmouth Road, Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire, SK8 7AY, UK. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 13:19:32 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 13:17:58 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00972AE5.8712397B.30844@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: Adding system users to MX dongray@genrad.com writes: > >Basically, I'm asking for ADD and REMOVE commands to be added to manipulate the >list of SYSTEM_USERS. Or some wildcard mechanism that basically says > is a system user. > >Could this be put in the wish list? > >(It may already be there). > I'll put it there, if it's not. (The latter seems to be the way to do it....) Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 23:03:51 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Re: MX SMTP existing with error Message-ID: <199309171344.AA05334@desert.ihep.su> From: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 17:44:20 +0400 Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET list-mgr%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU wrote: : DEFINE REWRITE_RULE - : "<{last}.{first}@a1.abbott.com>" - : "" : The process MX SMTP dies quickly when I send using this rule. Why does it go to SMTP at all ??? -- Igor Mandrichenko ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 23:17:33 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 00:12:35 EDT From: Dan Wheeler Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: mx-list@WKUVX1.BITNET CC: manager@LEMOYNE.BITNET Message-ID: <00972B40.FA121760.27018@lemoyne> Subject: set nomail set nomail ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 09:51:06 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: RE: incoming mail remaining in queue Message-ID: <27emp1INN9c6@gap.caltech.edu> From: Date: 18 Sep 1993 10:09:37 GMT Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <00972AD3.8C435CC0.9996@nhnet.unh.edu>, "Robin Tuttle, 862-3228" writes: =No, it is not a stupid question. Although I checked to make =sure the MX files where running, I neglected to notice that =the MX Local process wasn't. I've tried to start it by =shutting down MX & restarting it, and I've tried to do it by =saving the configuration file & rerunning the config, but to =no avail. I didn't see anything in the manual that said how =to start the process individually. Any suggestions? $ @SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP LOCAL You should also have a look at the file MX_LOCAL_nodename.LOG to see why the MX Local process died. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 09:51:12 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Re: incoming mail remaining in queue Message-ID: <27emi2INN9c6@gap.caltech.edu> From: Date: 18 Sep 1993 10:05:54 GMT Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <00972AC1.74F55940.9926@nhnet.unh.edu>, "Robin Tuttle, 862-3228" writes: =I'm a fairly novice VMS system manager with a problem. I've just =upgraded a machine from VMS 5.5-2 running UCX 2.0 with MX 3.3 to =OpenVMS 6.0. Only problem is, incoming mail is remaining in the MX =queue and not getting delivered. I've turned on debugging, but =nothing is showing up in the log files. None of the messages have any =error messages attached. I've shutdown and restarted MX, hoping that =would do the trick but it hasn't. Any advice would be appreciated. Make sure you've enabled debugging for the appropriate agent, then use the QUEUE READY command of MCP to force the appropriate agent to process the file. Oh, you might also want to make sure that the "MX Local" process hasn't died. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 10:03:37 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: Re: incoming mail remaining in queue Message-ID: <199309180857.AA06835@desert.ihep.su> Date: 18 Sep 93 08:57:28 GMT Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Robin Tuttle, 862-3228 (r_tuttle@nhnet.unh.edu) wrote: : ... I didn't see anything in the manual that said how : to start the process individually. Any suggestions? To run LOCAL agent use: $@SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP LOCAL also check startup configuration file MX_DIR:MX_STARTUP_INFO.DAT. Its format is described in MX documentation. Either in MGMT_GUIDE or INST_GUIDE. -- Igor Mandrichenko ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 17:21:38 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: Re: MX SMTP existing with error Date: 18 Sep 1993 21:41:03 GMT Message-ID: <27fv9gINNipo@gap.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <199309171344.AA05334@desert.ihep.su>, igor@desert.ihep.su (Igor Mandrichenko) writes: =list-mgr%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU wrote: =: DEFINE REWRITE_RULE - =: "<{last}.{first}@a1.abbott.com>" - =: "" = =: The process MX SMTP dies quickly when I send using this rule. = = = Why does it go to SMTP at all ??? Well, if a1.abbot.com isn't the local machine, you've got to send the mail to it somehow, don't you? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 10:32:41 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: Re: MX SMTP existing with error Message-ID: <199309190930.AA08795@desert.ihep.su> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Sun, 19 Sep 93 13:30:17 +0400 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Carl J Lydick (carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU) wrote: : In article <199309171344.AA05334@desert.ihep.su>, igor@desert.ihep.su (Igor Mandrichenko) writes: : = Why does it go to SMTP at all ??? : Well, if a1.abbot.com isn't the local machine, you've got to send the mail to : it somehow, don't you? Why not to DNSMTP, X25-SMTP, etc. ? -- Igor Mandrichenko ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 10:28:27 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 11:03:38 EST From: edgecombe@cloud.ccrs.emr.ca Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: mx-list%wkuvx1.bitnet@ulkyvm.louisville.edu Message-ID: <00972D2E.42519F20.19791@cloud.ccrs.emr.ca> Subject: Quoting in address We have a gateway (MRX gateway in Mailworks) that generates From: addresses of the form (VMS) mrgate::"ccrs::1=ca::2=telecom.CANADA::3=GC+EMR::5=SMTP:: *RFC-822\edgecombe(a)cloud.ccrs.emr.ca::1=CA" (catenated, I've split to two lines for clarity) When this gets forwarded through MX, the return address becomes: MX%"mrgate::\"ccrs::1=ca::2=telecom.CANADA::3=GC+EMR::5=SMTP:: *RFC-822\edgecombe(a)cloud.ccrs.emr.ca::1=CA\"@ccrs.emr.ca" i.e. with the internal quotes "quoted" with backslashes. The problem comes when trying to REPLY to this address -- by the time it gets back into Mailbus, the '\' has disappeared!!! I've tried manually doubling the backslash, and things work out as expected (only one in the final address). Looks like a bug, in that internal backslashes should be quoted, as well as internal quotes. --john John Edgecombe Canada Centre for Remote Sensing alternate Ottawa, Ontario, Canada "People who have simple pleasures should be admired ... and then executed." Garfield ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 11:17:07 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 11:16:42 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00972D30.15BC0ACF.31827@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: Quoting in address edgecombe@cloud.ccrs.emr.ca writes: > >We have a gateway (MRX gateway in Mailworks) that generates From: addresses >of the form (VMS) > mrgate::"ccrs::1=ca::2=telecom.CANADA::3=GC+EMR::5=SMTP:: > *RFC-822\edgecombe(a)cloud.ccrs.emr.ca::1=CA" >(catenated, I've split to two lines for clarity) > [...] Ugh! I refuse to fix any bug that'll let MX work with something *that* horrible!! 8-) >Looks like a bug, in that internal backslashes should be quoted, as well >as internal quotes. > Agreed; I'll try to look at it for V3.4. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 01:44:57 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: mx to allin1 Message-ID: <93263.194528KAMYC@CUNYVM.BITNET> From: kamrul ahsan Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Monday, 20 Sep 1993 19:45:28 EDT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET I was trying to send mail through Alllin1 being consistent with VMS mail somewhat like TO:mx%"username@ycvax.york.cuny.edu" .Apparently it did not work. Any hint? Thank you. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 08:02:23 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Question on MX config Message-ID: <1993Sep21.205037.175@southpower.co.nz> From: fowler@southpower.co.nz Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: 21 Sep 93 20:50:37 NZDT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Hi, I am trying to configure MX so that it will forward mail to another SMTP gateway on our network. I have set up the following MX records... LAN.SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 5, mail exchanger = southpower.co.nz LAN.SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 10, mail exchanger = cantva.canterbury.ac.nz LAN.SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 20, mail exchanger = st-james.comp.vuw.ac.nz SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 5, mail exchanger = southpower.co.nz SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 10, mail exchanger = cantva.canterbury.ac.nz SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 20, mail exchanger = st-james.comp.vuw.ac.nz I want to set things up so that if mail is sent to a user on lan.southpower.co.nz then it is routed through southpower.co.nz but the message seems to keep looping on southpower.co.nz. My config.mcp looks like this... DEFINE PATH "galaxy.southpower.co.nz" LOCAL DEFINE PATH "southpower.co.nz" LOCAL DEFINE PATH "galaxy" LOCAL DEFINE PATH "alf.southpower.co.nz" LOCAL DEFINE PATH "alf" LOCAL DEFINE PATH "[192.146.218.33]" LOCAL < Some LOCAL nodes excluded > DEFINE PATH "lan.southpower.co.nz" SMTP/ROUTE="lan.southpower.co.nz" DEFINE PATH "lan" SMTP/ROUTE="lan.southpower.co.nz" DEFINE PATH "[192.146.218.20]" SMTP/ROUTE="lan.southpower.co.nz" DEFINE PATH *.UUCP SMTP/ROUTE="uunet.uu.net" DEFINE PATH *.BITNET SMTP/ROUTE="cunyvm.cuny.edu" ! NOTE: The next path definition should always be LAST. DEFINE PATH * SMTP Here is some debug output from the router process... Recipient: , route=lan.southpower.co.nz SMTP_SEND: looking up host name lan.southpower.co.nz SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with southpower.co.nz. [192.146.218.26] SMTP_SEND: Connected 21-SEP-1993 19:16:27.65 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 220 taurus.southpower.co.nz MX V3.3 VAX SMTP server ready at Tue, 2 Looks like it is using the MX record and looping since it points to southpower.co.nz. What I need it to do is route the message to the address ("A" record) which is also defined in my name server. Is there another way of doing this?? Or should I be using a different name for the MX record?? Has anyone else tried to do this sort of thing?? My reason for trying this is that I wan't all incoming mail to come through a single machine to make management easier. I am running MX 3.3, Multinet 3.2B and VMS 5.5-2. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Ken. -- Southpower, Phone: (64)(03) 363-9527 Private Bag, Fax: (64)(03) 363-9816 Christchurch, Internet: fowler@southpower.co.nz New Zealand. PSI: 0530130010083::galaxy::fowler ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 08:33:24 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 15:29:15 +0200 From: Herve GILIBERT CRI universite Jean Monnet ST ETIENNE Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Message-ID: <00972E1C.87CC8A80.9041@stroph.univ-st-etienne.fr> Subject: RE: Question on MX config > From: MX%"MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU" 21-SEP-1993 15:11:13.53 > Subj: Question on MX config > Hi, > > > I am trying to configure MX so that it will forward mail to another > SMTP gateway on our network. I have set up the following MX > records... > > LAN.SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 5, mail exchanger = southpower.co.nz > LAN.SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 10, mail exchanger = > cantva.canterbury.ac.nz > LAN.SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 20, mail exchanger = > st-james.comp.vuw.ac.nz > > SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 5, mail exchanger = southpower.co.nz > SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 10, mail exchanger = > cantva.canterbury.ac.nz > SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 20, mail exchanger = > st-james.comp.vuw.ac.nz > > I want to set things up so that if mail is sent to a user on > lan.southpower.co.nz then it is routed through southpower.co.nz but > the message seems to keep looping on southpower.co.nz. My config.mcp > looks like this... > > DEFINE PATH "galaxy.southpower.co.nz" LOCAL > DEFINE PATH "southpower.co.nz" LOCAL > DEFINE PATH "galaxy" LOCAL > DEFINE PATH "alf.southpower.co.nz" LOCAL > DEFINE PATH "alf" LOCAL > DEFINE PATH "[192.146.218.33]" LOCAL > > < Some LOCAL nodes excluded > > > DEFINE PATH "lan.southpower.co.nz" SMTP/ROUTE="lan.southpower.co.nz" > DEFINE PATH "lan" SMTP/ROUTE="lan.southpower.co.nz" > DEFINE PATH "[192.146.218.20]" SMTP/ROUTE="lan.southpower.co.nz" > DEFINE PATH *.UUCP SMTP/ROUTE="uunet.uu.net" > DEFINE PATH *.BITNET SMTP/ROUTE="cunyvm.cuny.edu" > ! NOTE: The next path definition should always be LAST. > DEFINE PATH * SMTP > Try to "hardwire" the IP address (192.....) instead of the domain name in /ROUTE=, to prevent MX to look at the MX records. -- Herve GILIBERT UUUU UUUU CRITeR UUUU UUUU Universite Jean Monnet St-Etienne UUUU UUUU 23, Rue du Dr. P. Michelon UUUU UUUU 42023 ST ETIENNE Cedex 2 UUUU UUUU Tel : 33 77 42 15 79 UUUU UUUU Fax : 33 77 42 15 75 UUUUUUUUUUU RFC822: gilibert@criter.univ-st-etienne.fr UUUUUUUUU ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 19:19:46 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 19:17:10 CDT From: system@xenon.che.ilstu.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: mx-list@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00972E3C.5EB2CA40.5568@xenon.che.ilstu.edu> Subject: Help on making a list server Help. I have mx 3.3 and have been trying to set up a list-server. I can make the list, but there is no acrhiving (I did specify a directory and device) and the messages I send to the list seem to go into limbo. I made the list semi-private so that requests for subscription could be sent to it, but it doesn't send back any of the reply messages that signify that I have been placed on the list. There is also no subscriber list in the appropriate directory. FDrom MCP, when I type REVIEW list, I get nothing, but no error message, so I assume the list exists, it just isn't behaving properly. I'd appreciate thoughts and comments about this. Best regards, Reef Morse Illinois State University, Dept. of Chemistry ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 19:24:07 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 19:23:33 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00972E3D.4317EB84.32439@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: Help on making a list server system@xenon.che.ilstu.edu writes: > > Help. I have mx 3.3 and have been trying to set up a list-server. I >can make the list, but there is no acrhiving (I did specify a directory and >device) and the messages I send to the list seem to go into limbo. I made >the list semi-private so that requests for subscription could be sent to it, >but it doesn't send back any of the reply messages that signify that I have >been placed on the list. There is also no subscriber list in the appropriate >directory. FDrom MCP, when I type REVIEW list, I get nothing, but no >error message, so I assume the list exists, it just isn't behaving properly. The mailing list would show up in MX_MLIST_DIR:, if it was there. Sounds like it's not. I assume you installed the MX MLF agent when you installed MX?? If so, is it running (use MCP STATUS)? If all that checks out, you need to turn on MLF debugging by defining MX_MLF_DEBUG. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 19:37:26 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 19:37:27 CDT From: REEF MORSE Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Message-ID: <00972E3F.3414BA20.5578@xenon.che.ilstu.edu> Subject: RE: Help on making a list server Oops. I don't thingk the MX MLF agent is running. What do I do to get it going? Here is a list of what happens when I run status: PID Node Process name Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------ 20200059 XENON MX Router Router agent 204000A0 NEON MX Local Local delivery agent 2020005A XENON MX Local Local delivery agent 2020005C XENON MX SMTP SMTP delivery agent 2020005B XENON MX Site Agent Site-specific delivery agent 2020005D XENON SMTP Server SMTP server (over TCP/IP) Reef ******************************************************************************* Philip D. (Reef) Morse II Internet address: reef@xenon.che.ilstu.edu Department of Chemistry Telephone (voice and voice mail): (309) 438-5595 Illinois State University Telephone (FAX): (309) 438-5538 Normal, IL 61761 Telephone (answering machine): (309) 829-9257 USA ******************************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 19:41:27 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 19:40:49 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00972E3F.AC75CD4C.32447@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: Help on making a list server REEF MORSE writes: > >Oops. I don't thingk the MX MLF agent is running. What do I do to get it >going? Here is a list of what happens when I run status: If you selected that option during the installation, it should be started automatically. Using the following will do it: $ @sys$startup:mx_startup mlf If you installed it and it's not getting started, check your MX_DIR:MX_STARTUP_INFO.DAT and make sure it has a line like the following: 005MLF:* Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 12:02:34 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 12:01:48 CDT From: REEF MORSE Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Message-ID: <00972EC8.B7714620.5674@xenon.che.ilstu.edu> Subject: RE: Help on making a list server O.K. I got the files extracted and ML-MLF.EXE showed up in mx mx_exe directory. Then I ran @sys$startup:mx_startup mlf. However, the process isn't running. I tried shutting down MX and starting it up again. Should I see the MLF as a process? Here is what is running: 20200059 MX Router HIB 5 80338 0 00:08:38.84 1055 919 2020005A MX Local HIB 5 36194 0 00:04:18.39 1072 896 2020005B MX Site Agent HIB 6 16207 0 00:01:35.54 397 218 2020005C MX SMTP HIB 5 24278 0 00:02:11.40 769 704 Further thoughts? I'm off to lunch for an hour or so (actually, I swim). I'll be back in about 1.25 hours. Best, Reef ******************************************************************************* Philip D. (Reef) Morse II Internet address: reef@xenon.che.ilstu.edu Department of Chemistry Telephone (voice and voice mail): (309) 438-5595 Illinois State University Telephone (FAX): (309) 438-5538 Normal, IL 61761 Telephone (answering machine): (309) 829-9257 USA ******************************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 12:15:55 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 11:12:46 MDT From: Dan Wing Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: reef@xenon.che.ilstu.edu Message-ID: <00972EC1.DDBC9AC0.6357@uh01.Colorado.EDU> Subject: RE: Help on making a list server REEF MORSE writes: >O.K. I got the files extracted and ML-MLF.EXE showed up in mx mx_exe >directory. Then I ran @sys$startup:mx_startup mlf. However, the process >isn't running. I tried shutting down MX and starting it up again. Should >I see the MLF as a process? >Here is what is running: > >20200059 MX Router HIB 5 80338 0 00:08:38.84 1055 919 >2020005A MX Local HIB 5 36194 0 00:04:18.39 1072 896 >2020005B MX Site Agent HIB 6 16207 0 00:01:35.54 397 218 >2020005C MX SMTP HIB 5 24278 0 00:02:11.40 769 704 > > Further thoughts? Did the @SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP MLF show a process was started? I'll bet your MX_ROOT:[000000]MX_STARTUP_INFO.DAT doesn't contain a line indicating which nodes are supposed to have MLF running; something like: 005MLF:nodename Where "nodename" is the node you want MLF to run on, or a * if you want it to run on all nodes. This line needs to be placed in order (probably at the end) of the MX_STARTUP_INFO.DAT file. For example, my file looks like: $ TYPE MX_ROOT:[000000]MX_STARTUP_INFO.DAT 001NETLIB:* 002ROUTER:BUCKIE=2 003LOCAL:* 004SITE:BUCKIE 004SMTP:BUCKIE=3 004SMTP_SERVER:BUCKIE 005MLF:UH01 >Normal, IL 61761 Telephone (answering machine): (309) 829-9257 If "Normal" had a sister city, would it be called "Weird"? :-) -dan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 16:33:49 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Moderated mailing lists? Message-ID: <1993Sep22.160951.16639@vax.oxford.ac.uk> From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: 22 Sep 93 16:09:50 BST To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Hi, It says in the MCP command reference that "moderated mailing lists are currently not supported". I have an application that requires a moderated list. Are there any plans to make this facility available? Dave -- David Hastings | "The technical axiom that nothing is VAX Systems Programmer | impossible sinisterly conditions one to Oxford University Computing Services| the pitfall corollary that nothing is daveh@vax.oxford.ac.uk | ridiculous" ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 16:38:50 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 16:38:05 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00972EEF.50177103.114@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: Moderated mailing lists? writes: > >Hi, > >It says in the MCP command reference that "moderated mailing lists are currently >not supported". I have an application that requires a moderated list. Are there >any plans to make this facility available? > Plans? Of course! 8-) Definite plans? Not yet.... Part of the problem is verifying messages from the moderator when VMS Mail is the user interface. (Using SEND/FOREIGN/TYPE=1 takes care of the problems with maintaining "From:" lines, etc., but it's ugly.) Anyway, I have some ideas, but nothing definite yet. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 17:00:29 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 14:50:12 -0700 From: "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: rharwood@Data.Basix.COM Message-ID: <00972EE0.3DF61B00.7894@Data.Basix.COM> Subject: RE: Moderated mailing lists? > writes: > >It says in the MCP command reference that "moderated mailing lists are currentl > >not supported". I have an application that requires a moderated list. Are there > >any plans to make this facility available? > > > Plans? Of course! 8-) Definite plans? Not yet.... > > Part of the problem is verifying messages from the moderator when VMS > Mail is the user interface. (Using SEND/FOREIGN/TYPE=1 takes care of > the problems with maintaining "From:" lines, etc., but it's ugly.) > Anyway, I have some ideas, but nothing definite yet. Possibly holding a message in the message queue under a new status of something like "MLF-HOLD", and the moderator then uses a new MXServer command of RELEASE or for a "good" message, or CANCEL for a "bad" one, or something? Let us know if you don't want suggestions! ;)} Collective brainstorming might give you some fresh ideas... Ray ----- Ray Harwood | Data Basix | Adjunct Faculty, East Campus, Voice: (602)721-1988 | PO Box 18324 | Pima Community College FAX: (602)721-7240 | Tucson, AZ 85731 | Instructor in Ada and Pascal rharwood@Data.Basix.COM | Info@Data.Basix.COM | rharwood@east.pima.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 18:04:06 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 18:56:06 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <00972F02.97B87F80.23448@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Help on making a list server >> Normal, IL 61761 Telephone (answering machine): (309) 829-9257 > If "Normal" had a sister city, would it be called "Weird"? :-) It exists, and it's called "Bloomington." In a local paper, the wedding announcement editor had fun one day when he wrote the headline: Normal Man to Wed Oblong Woman. (Guess her home town.) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 21:24:46 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 20:27:37 CDT From: REEF MORSE Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Message-ID: <00972F0F.606425E0.5787@xenon.che.ilstu.edu> Subject: RE: Help on making a list server Well, actually I DO live in Bloomington. I do a lot of EPR specto- scopy and on our old Varian E-3 is a switch which says "Normal" and "Fast". I am tempted to cross out "Fast" and write "Bloomington". Oh well. Remember, this is the state that has towns called Cairo (Kayro), Peru (Pay-roo), and of course that most urbane of all cities, Urbana. Just north of us is Towanda (how it got into the movie "Fried Green Tomatoes", we'll never know). And don't forget Saline and Galena (guess what was mined there)? ISU's charter was signed by Abraham Lincoln. Bloomington existed as the major railroad town when Lincoln was around. It is also the home of the Pullman railroad car. So, when I lecture on organic chemistry, I always throw in a little joke about normal-(any straight chain aliphatic hydrocarbon). I say that fortunately, we are at ISU because at Illinois Weslyan down the road, they would have to call it bloomington. Had enough? Take care. Smiley faces all around. Best, Reef ******************************************************************************* Philip D. (Reef) Morse II Internet address: reef@xenon.che.ilstu.edu Department of Chemistry Telephone (voice and voice mail): (309) 438-5595 Illinois State University Telephone (FAX): (309) 438-5538 Normal, IL 61761 Telephone (answering machine): (309) 829-9257 USA ******************************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 08:14:07 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00972F71.6488B5C0.25081@uwwvax.uww.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 08:09:14 CST From: hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: MLF no priv message To: mx-list@WKUVX1.BITNET Neither the owner or the system user can remove a user from a list. It always returns no priv error message. We have matched case on the name and the syntax agrees with the manual. How can the problem be corrected? Lyle Hunter Computer Center University Wisconsin-Whitewater hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 09:32:02 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 09:27:48 CST From: "George D. Greenwade" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu Message-ID: <00972F7C.5E6F1F20.8856@SHSU.edu> Subject: RE: MLF no priv message On Tue, 23 Sep 1993 08:09:14 CST, Lyle Hunter reports: > Neither the owner or the system user can remove a user from a list. > It always returns no priv error message. > We have matched case on the name and the syntax agrees with the > manual. > How can the problem be corrected? Are you sure that the casing is consistent. I note that your post comes from "uwwvax.uww.edu" (i.e., all lowercase). If you didn't enter the owner and system addresses when configuring with surrounding quotes, it **may** be that MX is converting the username (LHS) to lowercase, then converting the nodename (RHS) to uppercase; in which case, it is not a mathc (i.e., hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu is not the same to MX as hunterl@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU). --George %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% George D. Greenwade, Ph.D. Bitnet: BED_GDG@SHSU Department of Economics and Business Analysis THEnet: SHSU::BED_GDG College of Business Administration Voice: (409) 294-1266 P. O. Box 2118 FAX: (409) 294-3612 Sam Houston State University Internet: bed_gdg@SHSU.edu Huntsville, TX 77341 bed_gdg%SHSU.decnet@relay.the.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 15:58:35 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: RE: MLF no priv message Message-ID: <1993Sep23.192819.29229@news.arc.nasa.gov> From: Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 19:28:19 GMT Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <00972F7C.5E6F1F20.8856@SHSU.edu>, "George D. Greenwade" writes: >Are you sure that the casing is consistent. I note that your post comes >from "uwwvax.uww.edu" (i.e., all lowercase). If you didn't enter the owner >and system addresses when configuring with surrounding quotes, it **may** >be that MX is converting the username (LHS) to lowercase, then converting >the nodename (RHS) to uppercase; in which case, it is not a mathc (i.e., >hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu is not the same to MX as hunterl@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU). While George is correct in that MLF is case-sensitive, he's got it a little backwards. The host name is treated in a case-insensitive way; it's only the username portion that is case sensitive. Make sure that the owner and system user entries have usernames that are in the same case as what you would see in the From: field in a message from those users. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | madison@tgv.com | +1 408 457 5200 TGV, Inc. | 101 Cooper Street | Santa Cruz, CA 95060 USA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 17:30:12 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 17:24:43 CST From: "George D. Greenwade" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: madison@tgv.com Message-ID: <00972FBE.FDF08880.11640@SHSU.edu> Subject: RE: MLF no priv message On Thu, 23 Sep 1993 19:28:19 GMT, Matt Madison (hi, Matt!!) posted: > In article <00972F7C.5E6F1F20.8856@SHSU.edu>, "George D. Greenwade" > writes: > >Are you sure that the casing is consistent. I note that your post comes > >from "uwwvax.uww.edu" (i.e., all lowercase). If you didn't enter the owner > >and system addresses when configuring with surrounding quotes, it **may** > >be that MX is converting the username (LHS) to lowercase, then converting > >the nodename (RHS) to uppercase; in which case, it is not a mathc (i.e., > >hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu is not the same to MX as hunterl@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU). > > While George is correct in that MLF is case-sensitive, he's got it a little > backwards. The host name is treated in a case-insensitive way; it's only > the username portion that is case sensitive. > > Make sure that the owner and system user entries have usernames that are in > the same case as what you would see in the From: field in a message from > those users. Right. Just because you authored this and led me by the hand way back when, you think.... 8-) ;-) I'd only had my second pot of coffee when I posted that -- gotta have my 3 or 4 pots or I get the LHS and RHS issues reversed -- sorry. Gotta problem here, though (which may need to be forwarded to you and Hunter). His casing is proper, his MCP SHO LIST, his MCP SHO SYSTEM, and everything else checks out as far as I can tell (and, yes, as Matt is well aware, I've screwed all of these up at various times). I've reviewed every exchange we've had on the topic and this one's a real puzzler. If you want copies of our exchanges, let me know and it can be arranged. --George ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 18:06:44 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 17:05:08 MDT From: Dan Wing Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Message-ID: <00972FBC.4164EF00.7375@uh01.Colorado.EDU> Subject: RE: MLF no priv message >If you want copies of our exchanges, let me know and it can be arranged. You could send it to MX-LIST so we could all have a crack at it! :-) -d ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 21:10:19 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: outgoing rewrite rule? Message-ID: <1993Sep23.152337.1@stimpy.hsc.ucalgary.ca> From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 21:23:37 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET A couple of quick newby questions: 1. Are the rewrite rules only applied to _incomming_ mail? I want to change the return address of outgoing mail from "VAX::USER"@DOMAIN to USER@DOMAIN. Do I have to do this with a SITE delivery routine? I want the following rewrite to apply to _outgoing_ return address: "<""{host}::{user}""@fhhosp.ab.ca>" => "<{user}@fhhosp.ab.ca>" 2. When making a change to the rewrite rules, do I have to notify the router via an "mcp reset [router]"? Thanks. :byron ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 22:31:11 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 20:32:25 PST From: Alan Winston - Central Computing Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00972FD9.36CCA8E0.30033@SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> Subject: Q: "From" lines on messages from BITnet look strange Folks -- I'm running VMS A5.5, JNET 3.5, MX 3.3. We have both a BITnet feed and SMTP-over-DECnet coming from a router at our site. Sometimes messages originating from BITnet sites have "From" addresses that look like MX%"user%node.BITNET@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu" This is certainly replyable, but it seems kind of ugly. I would rather it just said MX%"user@node.BITNET". I'm under the impression that rewrite rules are applied only to outgoing mail. I don't have any defined. I have read the MX Management Guide but am not much enlightened. Can I fix this? If so, how? Here's a sample from today. I've included all the headers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MX%"koosman%UTKVX.BITNET@SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU" 23-SEP-1993 16:17:50. 71 To: WINSTON CC: Subj: English units Return-Path: <@CMSA.BERKELEY.EDU:owner-morris@SUVM.SYR.EDU> Received: from cmsa.Berkeley.EDU (MAILER) by SSRL750 (MX V3.3 VAX) with BSMTP; Thu, 23 Sep 1993 16:17:44 PST Received: from CMSA.BERKELEY.EDU by cmsa.Berkeley.EDU (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 1052; Thu, 23 Sep 93 16:07:02 PDT Received: from CMSA.BERKELEY.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UCBCMSA) by CMSA.BERKELEY.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0779; Thu, 23 Sep 1993 16:07:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 17:47:14 -0400 Reply-To: koosman%UTKVX.BITNET@SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Sender: Morris Dancing Discussion List From: Toby Koosman Subject: English units To: Multiple recipients of list MORRIS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me. I include my configuration info below. Thanks, -- Alan (winston@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Configuration file: MX_DEVICE:[MX]MX_CONFIG.MXCFG;26 MX version id is: MX V3.3 VAX Domain-to-path mappings: Domain="ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu", Path=Local Domain="ssrl01", Path=Local Domain="[134.79.32.11]", Path=Local Domain="*.UUCP", Path=SMTP, Route="uunet.uu.net" Domain="SSRL750", Path=Local Domain="SSRL750.BITNET", Path=Local Domain="*.BITNET", Path=Jnet Domain="SSRL01.DNET", Path=Local Domain="*", Path=SMTP SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Number of DNS failure retries: 12 Accounting: disabled Default router: (none) LOCAL agent settings: DECnet delivery retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. Multiple VMS Mail From: addresses allowed. Top headers: FROM,SENDER,TO,RESENT_TO,CC,RESENT_CC,BCC,RESENT_BCC,MESSAGE_ID, RESENT_MESSAGE_ID,IN_REPLY_TO,REFERENCES,KEYWORDS,SUBJECT, ENCRYPTED,DATE,REPLY_TO,RECEIVED,RESENT_REPLY_TO,RESENT_FROM, RESENT_SENDER,RESENT_DATE,RETURN_PATH,OTHER Bottom headers: (none) ROUTER agent settings: Automatic percent-hack handling: enabled JNET agent settings: Automatic percent-hack handling: enabled BSMTP replies: disabled Accounting: disabled Lenient about gatewaying mail: yes No mailer username set. DECnet_SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. SITE agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 X25_SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. =============================================================================== Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL750.BITNET or WINSTON@SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 415/926-3056 Physical mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 69, PO BOX 4349, STANFORD, CA 94309-0210 =============================================================================== ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 06:42:35 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 06:24:34 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <0097302B.EFC2A221.784@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: MLF no priv message "George D. Greenwade" writes: > >Gotta problem here, though (which may need to be forwarded to you and >Hunter). His casing is proper, his MCP SHO LIST, his MCP SHO SYSTEM, and >everything else checks out as far as I can tell (and, yes, as Matt is well >aware, I've screwed all of these up at various times). I've reviewed every >exchange we've had on the topic and this one's a real puzzler. > >If you want copies of our exchanges, let me know and it can be arranged. > What do the MLF debug logs show? Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 06:43:28 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 06:42:03 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <0097302E.60F0B819.797@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: Q: "From" lines on messages from BITnet look strange Alan Winston - Central Computing writes: > >Folks -- > >I'm running VMS A5.5, JNET 3.5, MX 3.3. We have both a BITnet feed and >SMTP-over-DECnet coming from a router at our site. > >Sometimes messages originating from BITnet sites have "From" addresses that >look like > >MX%"user%node.BITNET@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu" > >This is certainly replyable, but it seems kind of ugly. I would rather it >just said MX%"user@node.BITNET". I'm under the impression that rewrite rules >are applied only to outgoing mail. Correct. >I don't have any defined. I have read the >MX Management Guide but am not much enlightened. > >Can I fix this? If so, how? > Have you tried MCP SET JNET/NOPERCENT_HACK? I must confess that I don't know if that will solve the problem or not, because my setup has never caused it. If it doesn't work, you could turn on MX Jnet debugging to see if it tells you any more about what it's doing. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 06:58:02 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 06:57:16 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00973030.812136BB.819@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: outgoing rewrite rule? writes: > >A couple of quick newby questions: > >1. Are the rewrite rules only applied to _incomming_ mail? > Only to outgoing addresses on outgoing mail. > I want to change the return address of outgoing mail from > "VAX::USER"@DOMAIN to USER@DOMAIN. Do I have to do this with > a SITE delivery routine? > You can use the site name conversion stuff to do that; see the _MX Programmer's Guide_ for more info. There are a couple of other examples in MX_ROOT:[CONTRIB]. >2. When making a change to the rewrite rules, do I have to notify > the router via an "mcp reset [router]"? > Yes, you do. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 07:44:31 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 07:43:04 CST From: hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Message-ID: <00973036.E6B81520.29806@uwwvax.uww.edu> Subject: RE: MLF no priv message => What do the MLF debug logs show? $1$DIA0:[MX.MLF]FILESERV_LOG.LOG;1 $1$DIA0:[MX.MLF]MX_MLF_LOG.LOG;1 24-SEP-1993 07:38:27.81 Processing queue entry number 29791 24-SEP-1993 07:38:28.72 Checking local name: listserv 24-SEP-1993 07:38:28.72 This is a list control address. 24-SEP-1993 07:38:28.81 LIST_CTRL_LISTSERV: Message is from: hunterl@uwwvax.u ww.edu 24-SEP-1993 07:38:28.91 LIST_CTRL_LISTSERV: command is: remove methods 8794733 0%49.1011.DecNet@XRAYLITH.WISC.EDU 24-SEP-1993 07:38:29.17 CHECK_ACCESS: checking hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu for acce ss mask=00000010 24-SEP-1993 07:38:29.17 CHECK_ACCESS: Access check failed. Requested acces s denied. 24-SEP-1993 07:38:32.17 All done with this entry. Lyle Hunter Computer Center University Wisconsin-Whitewater hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 11:30:01 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 09:06:05 MDT From: Dan Wing Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: byron@stimpy.hsc.ucalgary.ca Message-ID: <00973042.7FAB0C00.7659@uh01.Colorado.EDU> Subject: RE: outgoing rewrite rule? >1. Are the rewrite rules only applied to _incomming_ mail? > > I want to change the return address of outgoing mail from > "VAX::USER"@DOMAIN to USER@DOMAIN. Do I have to do this with > a SITE delivery routine? > > I want the following rewrite to apply to _outgoing_ return address: > "<""{host}::{user}""@fhhosp.ab.ca>" => "<{user}@fhhosp.ab.ca>" I assume you've got some way for fhhosp.ab.ca to 'know' mail sent to {user} really needs to be delivered to {host}::{user} ? -dan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 16:22:28 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: modified NAME_CONVERSION.C ? Message-ID: <1993Sep24.102809.1@stimpy.hsc.ucalgary.ca> From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 16:28:09 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET I'm having a go at the NAME_CONVERSION.C module that is included in the MX distribution. This looks promising for what I want to do. I want to hack the example to do the name lookup/translation from an index file, rather than an in memory data structure. I wonder if anyone has done this already? Name translations will look like this: Source Alias ------ ----------- byron byron.draudson vaxa::byron byron.draudson vaxb::byron byron.draudson vaxa::joe joe.blow anything-else whatever I've setup forwarding for each alias in VMS mail so that incomming mail gets delivered to the correct user. If someone has already modified NAME_CONVERSION.C to do (index) file lookups and translations, I'd appreciate if you could send me a copy of the code. Why reinvent the wheel, eh? I suppose a program to maintain the indexed translation file would be nice as well. Many thanks. If noone has done this, I'll have a go at it and make the code public (if anyone else wants it). :byron ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 16:22:38 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Extract mail???How!!???!?!?! Message-ID: <1993Sep24.104722.1@physc1.byu.edu> From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: 24 Sep 93 10:47:22 -0600 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET -- I have no idea if this is the right place for this, so if not, please let me know which group would be appropriate. I am currently using a VAX/VMS mail utility version 5.0. I would like to be able to extract mail files based on their subject line and put them in separate files. I know that I could extract many messages and put them in one file, but I would like to keep them separate. For example: I have 6 messages, all from different people, but all regarding a conference agenda. The subject line for each reads. Conference session 1(or 2 up to 6). I would like to extract each mail message separately so that I will have 6 files in my root dir that correspond with mail files. I would like to do it with one command (I know I could extract each one separately, but one command would be much nicer.) Is there a qualifier required in the subject heading that would allow this. Any information at all would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Jon P.S.--If this is not enough information let me know and I will try to supply more to help. Thank you again. ************************************************************************* * [] * * Jon Hathaway [] Inorganic Chemists never die... * * Graduate Gopher [] * * Chemistry Department [] they just don't. * * Brigham Young University [] * * Future MD/PhD at U. Cincinnati [] * * [] * ************************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 17:27:22 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 17:26:41 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00973088.6EA69541.1069@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: modified NAME_CONVERSION.C ? writes: > >I'm having a go at the NAME_CONVERSION.C module that is included in the MX >distribution. This looks promising for what I want to do. I want to hack the >example to do the name lookup/translation from an index file, rather than an in >memory data structure. I wonder if anyone has done this already? > If you have MX V3.3, look in MX_ROOT:[CONTRIB] for NICKNAME.ZIP. Otherwise, ftp to ftp.spc.edu and look in [.MX.CONTRIB] for it. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 17:55:50 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 16:39:31 MDT From: Dan Wing Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: hathaway@physc1.byu.edu Message-ID: <00973081.D7CF23A0.8090@uh01.Colorado.EDU> Subject: RE: Extract mail???How!!???!?!?! >I am currently using a VAX/VMS mail utility version 5.0. I would like to be >able to extract mail files based on their subject line and put them in separate >files. I know that I could extract many messages and put them in one file, but >I would like to keep them separate. Use this at your own risk; this was written by a friend of mine back in school and was used when we had 5-6 files we mailed to another account; this .COM file would automatically retrieve the 5-6 files and retain their filenames and the username that mailed them (saved lots of work for TAs!). I also write a simple .COM file that mailed a bunch of files to a username (like the TA) which included the filename in the subject line. I use this program now to automatically get files that have been VMS_SHAREd into 100s of parts and then mailed to me -- this .COM file extracts them (using the subject line as the filename) and then I use APPEND to stick 'em all together. A few months ago a better solution to this was made available and Hunter announced it on INFO-VAX/comp.os.vms and FSUPDATE, but I haven't looked at it yet..... -dan ----- $ IF P1 .EQS. "?" THEN GOTO _HELP $ !------------------------------------------------- $ ! This command procedure will extract files $ ! from a folder in the MAIL utility and give $ ! them the name that is in the subject field. $ ! $ ! Written by Dale Moore, CS Student, Central Washington University, $ ! February 1990 $ ! $ ! $ ! EDIT 001, 17-APR-1991, Dan Wing, $ ! added capability to get name from inside of "()" $ ! EDIT 002, 27-AUG-1991, Dan Wing, $ ! Added "^f" function, to get filename (without directory or device) $ ! and use that in the extract operation. $ ! EDIT 003, 3-AUG-1992, Dan Wing, $ ! Don't do SET TERM/PAGE, because it messes up DECterms and isn't $ ! necessary. $ ! $ !!!!!! $ $ ! $ $ set nover $ set on $ on warning then goto del $ write sys$output "" $ ! $ !------------------------------------------------- $ ! $ ! ENTER FOLDER UNTIL IT IS NOT NULL $ ! $ file_spec: $ if p1 .eqs. "" $ then $ write sys$output "Please enter the file specification where ^? inserts the following into the $ write sys$output "resulting filename. " $ write sys$output "" $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT " ^( uses filename inside of parenthesis." ! edit 001 $ write sys$output " ^n inserts the username of the sender." $ write sys$output " ^s inserts the subject field." $ write sys$output " ^f inserts the filename of the subject (no directory or device)" $ write sys$output " ^x inserts the first x words of the object field, where x = 0-9." $ write sys$output " ^d,^m,^y inserts the day, month, or year the message was received." $ write sys$output " ^# inserts the message number." $ write sys$output " ^u inserts user defined text based on the username of the sender." $ write sys$output " where there exists a file: EXTRACT_USER.DAT" $ write sys$output " and each record contains: username \ associated text $ write sys$output "" $ write sys$output "Examples: From Date Subject" $ write sys$output " CS298_12 12-FEB-1990 LAB1 Lisa Jerold sorry it is late." $ write sys$output "" $ write sys$output " Specification Resultant filename" $ write sys$output " ^s LAB1_LISA_JEROLD_SORRY_IT_IS_LATE." $ write sys$output " [.^n]^1.c [.CS298_12]LAB1.C" $ write sys$output " ^u.mod JEROLD.MOD where: CS298_12 \ JEROLD" $ write sys$output "" $ inquire/nopunc p1 "Please enter file specs: [^S] " $ if p1 .eqs. "" then p1 = "^S" $ write sys$output "" $ write sys$output "" $ write sys$output "" $ write sys$output "" $ write sys$output "" $ write sys$output "" $ write sys$output "" $ write sys$output "Please enter DIR parameters/qualifiers. Do not use /FULL or /EDIT:" $ write sys$output "" $ write sys$output " /BEFORE /CC_SUBSTRING /FROM_SUBSTRING /FOLDER" $ write sys$output " /FULL /MARKED /NEW /REPLIED" $ write sys$output " /SINCE /START /SUBJECT_SUBSTRING /TO_SUBSTRING" $ write sys$output "" $ write sys$output "Examples: NEWMAIL ! selects the newmail folder." $ write sys$output " /SUBJECT_SUBSTRING=LAB ! selects messages that contain LAB." $ write sys$output "" $ write sys$output "See MAIL help for more information on DIR parameters and qualifiers." $ write sys$output "" $ inquire/nopunct p2 "Please enter DIR parameters/qualifiers (Return for none): " $ endif $ ! $ p1 = f$edit (p1, "TRIM, COLLAPSE, UPCASE") $ if (f$locate ("^U", p1) .ne. f$length (p1)) $ then $ if (p3 .eqs. "") $ then $ inquire/nopunct p3 "Please enter user data filename (return = EXTRACT_USER.DAT) : " $ if p3 .eqs. "" then p3 = "EXTRACT_USER.DAT" $ endif $ gosub lookup_table $ endif $ write sys$output "" $ write sys$output "Please wait." $ write sys$output "" $ ! $ !------------------------------------------------- $ ! $ ! CREATE 'DIR' listing FOR NEXT COMMAND $ ! $ ! $ open/write folder tmp_command.tmpztmp $ write folder "dir ''p2'" $ close folder $ ! $ !------------------------------------------------- $ ! $ ! MAIL> DIR folder /OUTPUT = FILE $ ! $ ! $!!! removed 3-AUG-1992 by DGW set term/page=255 $ ! $ assign/user tmp_command.tmpztmp sys$input $ assign/user tmp_directory.tmpztmp sys$output $ ! $ mail $ ! $ deassign sys$input $ deassign sys$output $ ! $!!! removed 3-AUG-1992 by DGW set term/page=24 $ ! $ !------------------------------------------------- $ ! $ ! WE KNOW WHAT'S IN THE FOLDER, NOW $ ! CREATE A FILE THAT CONTAINS ONLY $ ! THE SUBJECT FIELD. $ ! $ ! $ open/read input tmp_directory.tmpztmp $ open/write output tmp_command.tmpztmp $ ! $ read_again: $ read/end_of_file=none_selected input line $ if f$locate("#", line) .eq. f$length(line) then goto read_again $ read/end_of_file=none_selected input line $ ! $ !------------------------------------------------- $ ! $ ! EXTRACT AND WRITE SUBJECT FIELD $ ! $ ! $ message_number = 1 $ next_input: $ read/error=done input line $ file_spec = p1 $ again: $ carrot = f$locate ("^", file_spec) $ len = f$length (file_spec) $ if carrot .eq. len then goto openmail $ ! $ tc = f$extract (carrot+1, 1, file_spec) $ before = f$extract (0, carrot, file_spec) $ after = f$extract (carrot+2, len, file_spec) $ if tc .eqs. "N" $ then $ name = f$extract (f$locate ("::", line) + 2, f$length (line), line) $ name = f$extract (0, f$locate (" ",name), name) $ file_spec = before + "''name'" + after $ goto again $ endif $ if tc .eqs. "S" $ then $ subject = f$edit (f$extract(40,f$length(line)-40,line), "TRIM, COMPRESS, UPCASE") $ file_spec = before + "''subject'" + after $ goto again $ endif $! begin edit 002 $ if tc .eqs. "F" $ then $ subject = f$edit (f$extract(40,f$length(line)-40,line), "TRIM, COMPRESS, UPCASE") $ subject = f$parse(subject,,,"name") + f$parse(subject,,,"type") $ file_spec = before + "''subject'" + after $ goto again $ endif $! end edit 002 $ if tc .ges. "0" .and. tc .les. "9" $ then $ count = f$integer (tc) $ max = 0 $ subject = "" $ temp_subject = f$edit (f$extract(40,f$length(line)-40,line), "TRIM, COMPRESS, UPCASE") $ x_top: $ if count .eq. max .or. max .gt. 9 then goto x_done $ space = f$locate (" ", temp_subject) $ if space .eq. f$length (space) then goto x_done $ subject = subject + f$extract (0, space, temp_subject) + " " $ temp_subject = f$extract (space + 1, f$length (temp_subject), temp_subject) $ max = max + 1 $ goto x_top $ x_done: $ subject = f$edit (subject, "TRIM") $ file_spec = before + "''subject'" + after $ goto again $ endif $ if tc .eqs. "D" $ then $ day = f$extract(27,2,line) $ file_spec = before + "''day'" + after $ goto again $ endif $ if tc .eqs. "M" $ then $ month = f$extract(30,3,line) $ file_spec = before + "''month'" + after $ goto again $ endif $ if tc .eqs. "Y" $ then $ year = f$extract(34,4,line) $ file_spec = before + "''year'" + after $ goto again $ endif $ if tc .eqs. "U" $ then $ name = f$extract (f$locate ("::", line) + 2, f$length (line), line) $ name = f$extract (0, f$locate (" ",name), name) $ name = 'name' $ if $status .eq. %x00038140 $ then $ write sys$output "Check user definition file ""''p3'""." $ goto del $ endif $ file_spec = "''before'''name'''after'" $ goto again $ endif $ if tc .eqs. "#" $ then $ file_spec = "''before'''message_number'''after'" $ goto again $ endif $!+-+ begin edit 001 $ IF TC .EQS. "(" $ THEN $ DW_TEMPSPEC = F$ELEMENT(1,"(",LINE) - ")" $ FILE_SPEC = "''BEFORE'" + DW_TEMPSPEC + "''AFTER'" $ GOTO AGAIN $ ENDIF $!+-+ end edit 001 $ $ write sys$output "Error in file specification." $ goto del $ $ openmail: $ file_spec = f$edit (file_spec, "TRIM") $ gosub make_filename_legal $ write output file_spec $ message_number = message_number + 1 $ goto next_input $ done: $ close input $ close output $ ! $ !------------------------------------------------- $ ! $ ! NOW CREATE A NEW FILE AND SELECT $ ! THE RIGHT FOLDER. $ ! $ ! $ open/write output tmp_read_extract.tmpztmp $ open/read input tmp_command.tmpztmp $ write output "dir ''p2'" $ x = 1 $ ! $ !------------------------------------------------- $ ! $ ! WRITE A SERIES OF 'READ AND EXTRACT' $ ! $ ! $ next: $ read/error=quit input file_spec $ write output "read ''x'" $ write output "extract/noheader ''file_spec'" $ write sys$output "''x' ''file_spec'" $ x = x + 1 $ goto next $ ! $ quit: $ close output $ close input $ ! $ !------------------------------------------------- $ ! $ ! EXTRACT THEM. $ ! $ ! $ write sys$output "" $ inquire/nopunc in "ok? (yes/no): " $ if f$extract(0,1,in) .eqs. "N" $ then $ write sys$output "" $ write sys$output "Aborting at your request." $ write sys$output "" $ goto del $ endif $ ! $ write sys$output "Please wait." $ assign/user tmp_mail.tmpztmp sys$output $ assign/user tmp_read_extract.tmpztmp sys$input $ mail $ ! $ !------------------------------------------------- $ ! $ ! DELETE TEMPORARY FILES. $ ! $ ! $ del: $ set noon $ $! ++ IF statements added 11-SEP-1990 by DGW. SET MESSAGE statements $! removed $ if f$trnlnm("input") .nes. "" then close input $ if f$trnlnm("output") .nes. "" then close output $ if f$search("tmp_*.tmpztmp") .nes. "" then delete tmp_*.tmpztmp;* $! ++ $ $ exit $ ! $ none_selected: $ write sys$output "No files selected." $ goto del $ !------------------------------------------------------ $ make_filename_legal: $ file_spec_temp = "" $ check = 1 $ period = 0 $ len = f$length (file_spec) - 1 $ x = 0 $ loop: $ if x .gt. len then goto make_done $ c = f$extract (x,1,file_spec) $ if (c .ges. "A" .and. c .les. "Z") .or. - (c .ges. "0" .and. c .les. "9") .or. - (c .eqs. ":") .or. - (c .eqs. "$") .or. - (c .eqs. "-") .or. - (c .eqs. "_") $ then $ file_spec_temp = file_spec_temp + c $ x = x + 1 $ goto loop $ else $ if (c .eqs. "." .and. check .eq. 0) .or. - (c .eqs. "." .and. period .eq. 0) .or. - (c .eqs. "[") .or. - (c .eqs. "]") $ then $ if c .eqs. "[" then check = 0 $ if c .eqs. "." then period = 1 $ if c .eqs. "]" $ then $ period = 0 $ check = 1 $ endif $ file_spec_temp = file_spec_temp + c $ else $ file_spec_temp = file_spec_temp + "_" $ endif $ endif $ x = x + 1 $ goto loop $ ! $ make_done: $ file_spec = file_spec_temp $ return $ !-------------------------------------------------- $ lookup_table: $ open/read/error=lookup_error lookup 'p3' $ lookup_top: $ read/end=lookup_done lookup lookup_line $ temp = f$locate ("\", lookup_line) $ before = f$extract (0, temp, lookup_line) $ after = f$extract (temp+1, f$length (lookup_line), lookup_line) $ 'before' := 'after $ show sym 'before' $ goto lookup_top $ lookup_done: $ close lookup $ return $ lookup_error: $ write sys$output "Error, user definition file ""''p3'"" not found." $ EXIT $ $_HELP: $ TYPE SYS$INPUT: This command procedure will extract files from a folder in the MAIL utility and give them the name that is in the subject field. Written by Dale Moore, February 1990 $ EXIT ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 21:01:40 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Re: Question on MX config Message-ID: <199309230914.AA07960@desert.ihep.su> From: Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 13:14:45 +0400 Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET fowler@southpower.co.nz wrote: : I am trying to configure MX so that it will forward mail to another : SMTP gateway on our network. I have set up the following MX : records... : LAN.SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 5, mail exchanger = southpower.co.nz : LAN.SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 10, mail exchanger = cantva.canterbury.ac.nz : LAN.SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 20, mail exchanger = st-james.comp.vuw.ac.nz : SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 5, mail exchanger = southpower.co.nz : SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 10, mail exchanger = cantva.canterbury.ac.nz : SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ preference = 20, mail exchanger = st-james.comp.vuw.ac.nz : I want to set things up so that if mail is sent to a user on : lan.southpower.co.nz then it is routed through southpower.co.nz but : the message seems to keep looping on southpower.co.nz. My config.mcp : looks like this... You have (at least) two ways: 1. Set up two nameservers. One for external networks and the other - for internal needs. The first should export the following: LAN.SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ. IN MX 5 southpower.co.nz. MX 10 cantva.canterbury.ac.nz. MX 20 st-james.comp.vuw.ac.nz. (just as you are doing) and the scond - "internal" should have A record for "lan" and may have MX record pointing to "lan". LAN.SOUTHPOWER.CO.NZ. IN MX 0 lan.southpower.co.nz. A 1.2.3.4 (the MX record is optional). The first nameserver should be announced to the world as official nameserver while the second should be used by your MX. To redirect MX use NETLIB_NAMESERVERS logical. For example $ define/system/exec NETLIB_NAMESERVERS "5.6.7.8" ! your "internal" nameserver ! IP-address. 2. The second way is to have a pseudo host in your nameserver database and redirect MX to it. For example: lan.mx-relay. IN MX 0 lan.southpower.co.nz. And MX setup like the following: DEFINE PATH "lan.southpower.co.nz" SMTP/route="lan.mx-relay" DEFINE PATH "lan" SMTP/route="lan.mx-relay" -- Igor Mandrichenko ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 21:50:12 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: RE: Extract mail???How!!???!?!?! Message-ID: <1993Sep24.142539.1@physc1.byu.edu> From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: 24 Sep 93 14:25:39 -0600 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET --Thanks to all who responded, but I figured it out. Luck was with me this time :-) Jon ************************************************************************* * [] * * Jon Hathaway [] Inorganic Chemists never die... * * Graduate Gopher [] * * Chemistry Department [] they just don't. * * Brigham Young University [] * * Future MD/PhD at U. Cincinnati [] * * [] * ************************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 21:50:32 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Re: outgoing rewrite rule? Message-ID: <1993Sep24.161705.250@tachyon.com> From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: 24 Sep 93 16:17:05 CDT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <1993Sep23.152337.1@stimpy.hsc.ucalgary.ca>, byron@stimpy.hsc.ucalgary.ca (Byron Draudson) writes: > A couple of quick newby questions: > > 1. Are the rewrite rules only applied to _incomming_ mail? > > I want to change the return address of outgoing mail from > "VAX::USER"@DOMAIN to USER@DOMAIN. Do I have to do this with > a SITE delivery routine? > > I want the following rewrite to apply to _outgoing_ return address: > "<""{host}::{user}""@fhhosp.ab.ca>" => "<{user}@fhhosp.ab.ca>" > > 2. When making a change to the rewrite rules, do I have to notify > the router via an "mcp reset [router]"? > > Thanks. > > :byron You don't say what transport you are running MX on top of. If it is DECUS UUCP, I have found it much easier to use UUCP's address rewriting. You can do the conversions in both directions, and on both to and from addresses. You are not using UUCP, disregard this message. Wayne -- ============================================================================== Wayne Sewell |INET: wayne@tachyon.com Tachyon Software Consulting |UUCP: uupsi!uupsi6!tachyon!wayne P. O. Box 550937, Dallas TX 75355-0937 |Voice: (214)-553-9760, Fax: -553-0077 ============================================================================= Larry:"I'll do it when I'm ready!" Moe(with menace):"Are ya ready?" L:"Yeah." ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 04:51:31 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 05:47:43 EST From: "Steve Thompson, Cheme System Mangler" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: mx-list@WKUVX1.BITNET CC: olin@cheme.cornell.edu Message-ID: <009730EF.F3E69140.14964@cheme.cornell.edu> Subject: MX support of MX records? I'm having a problem with MX records: I am running MX V3.3 under VAX/VMS 5.5-2 and AXP/VMS 1.5-FT3, using Multinet 3.2 Rev C as my TCP/IP provider. I have MULTINET_NAMESERVERS defined, but no NETLIB_xxx logical names, other than the defaults. If I do a DNS lookup for a host in my domain (alice.cheme.cornell.edu in this example), I get: $ multinet nslookup Default Server: CLOYD.CS.CORNELL.EDU Address: 128.84.254.190 > alice Server: CLOYD.CS.CORNELL.EDU Address: 128.84.254.190 Name: alice.cheme.cornell.edu Address: 128.84.243.21 > set type=mx > alice Server: CLOYD.CS.CORNELL.EDU Address: 128.84.254.190 alice.cheme.cornell.edu preference = 100, mail exchanger = VGER.CHEME.CORNELL.EDU VGER.CHEME.CORNELL.EDU internet address = 128.84.243.13 VGER.CHEME.CORNELL.EDU internet address = 128.84.253.104 > exit $ Thus, ALICE has no MX record pointing to itself, which is correct in this case, as ALICE is an X-terminal, and so does not run a sendmail daemon. VGER, the host named in the MX record, runs all MX components. Now, if I send mail to myself@alice, should it not be redirected to vger? This doesn't happen; MX attempts to connect to alice's sendmail until the maximum number of attempts has been exceeded, at which time the mail bounces. Turning on MX_ROUTER_DEBUG, I see: 25-SEP-1993 05:27:09.00 %PROCESS, Processing entry number 14956 25-SEP-1993 05:27:09.05 %PROCESS, Status from READ_INFO was 00000001 25-SEP-1993 05:27:09.05 %PROCESS, Message originated in VMS Mail. 25-SEP-1993 05:27:09.09 %PROCESS, will run domain expander on envelope addresses. 25-SEP-1993 05:27:09.09 %PROCESS, Processing address: 25-SEP-1993 05:27:09.12 %PROCESS, ... expanded alice to ALICE.CHEME.CORNELL.EDU 25-SEP-1993 05:27:09.12 %PROCESS, ... address now reads: 25-SEP-1993 05:27:09.12 %PROCESS, will run domain expander on message headers. 25-SEP-1993 05:27:09.24 %PROCESS, ... for olin@alice expanded alice to ALICE.CHEME.CORNELL.EDU 25-SEP-1993 05:27:09.77 %PROCESS, Finished VMSmail-origin preprocessing. 25-SEP-1993 05:27:09.77 %PROCESS, Recipient #0: 25-SEP-1993 05:27:09.77 %REWRITE, No rewrite rules matched 25-SEP-1993 05:27:10.09 %FINDPATH, Site-spec expand on ALICE.CHEME.CORNELL.EDU err=00000000 25-SEP-1993 05:27:10.10 %FINDPATH, domain name ALICE.CHEME.CORNELL.EDU matched path pattern * 25-SEP-1993 05:27:10.10 %PROCESS, Rewrote as - next hop ALICE.CHEME.CORNELL.EDU, path 2 25-SEP-1993 05:27:10.16 %PROCESS, Adding to SMTP path: . 25-SEP-1993 05:27:10.42 %PROCESS, Path SMTP gets 1 rcpts, entry number 14957 and turning on MX_SMTP_DEBUG gives: 25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.40 Processing queue entry number 14960 on node VGER 25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.51 Recipient: , route=ALICE.CHEME.CORNELL.EDU 25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.51 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name ALICE.CHEME.CORNELL.EDU 25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.53 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with ALICE.CHEME.CORNELL.EDU [128.84.243.21] 25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.53 -- failed, status=00000294 25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.53 SMTP_SEND: Failed, sts=00000294 25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.53 SMTP send failed, sts=0C27804A, sts2=00000294 25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.53 Recipient status=0C27804A for 25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.78 1 rcpts need retry, next try 25-SEP-1993 06:03:58.78 25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.81 *** End of processing pass *** where the status 00000294 is "%SYSTEM-F-REJECT, connect to network object rejected", and 0C27804A is "%MX-E-NOCOMPLETE, message transmission could not be completed". Looks to me like the MX record is not being used at all. Anyone know what I have done wrong (apart from not really understanding MX records as well as I should)? Of course I can add a rewrite rule to properly handle this case (which does work), but as I understand it, this shouldn't be necessary. I'd appreciate any input. -Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Thompson, System Mangler Internet: thompson@cheme.cornell.edu School of Chemical Engineering Bitnet: thompson@crnlchme Olin Hall, Cornell University Phone: (607) 255 5573 Ithaca NY 14853 FAX: (607) 255 9166 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 06:46:04 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 06:43:23 CDT From: REEF MORSE Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Message-ID: <009730F7.BB1E75A0.6404@xenon.che.ilstu.edu> Subject: RE: Extract mail???How!!???!?!?! So, what was the solution? Reef ******************************************************************************* Philip D. (Reef) Morse II Internet address: reef@xenon.che.ilstu.edu Department of Chemistry Telephone (voice and voice mail): (309) 438-5595 Illinois State University Telephone (FAX): (309) 438-5538 Normal, IL 61761 Telephone (answering machine): (309) 829-9257 USA ******************************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 11:13:18 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 10:11:57 MDT From: Dan Wing Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: thompson@cheme.cornell.edu Message-ID: <00973114.DDC82F20.8218@uh01.Colorado.EDU> Subject: RE: MX support of MX records? Steve Thompson, thompson@cheme.cornell.edu, wrote: >Now, if I send mail to myself@alice, should it not be redirected to vger? This >doesn't happen; MX attempts to connect to alice's sendmail until the maximum >number of attempts has been exceeded, at which time the mail bounces. [...] >and turning on MX_SMTP_DEBUG gives: > >25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.40 Processing queue entry number 14960 on node VGER >25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.51 Recipient: , > route=ALICE.CHEME.CORNELL.EDU >25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.51 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name > ALICE.CHEME.CORNELL.EDU >25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.53 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with > ALICE.CHEME.CORNELL.EDU [128.84.243.21] >25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.53 -- failed, status=00000294 >25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.53 SMTP_SEND: Failed, sts=00000294 >25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.53 SMTP send failed, sts=0C27804A, sts2=00000294 >25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.53 Recipient status=0C27804A for > >25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.78 1 rcpts need retry, next try 25-SEP-1993 06:03:58.78 >25-SEP-1993 05:33:58.81 *** End of processing pass *** I tried sending mail to and this is what happened in my MX_SMTP_LOG.LOG -- it was correctly delivered using the MX record to VGER (with datestamps removed): Processing queue entry number 8216 on node BUCKIE Recipient: , route=alice.cheme.cornell.edu SMTP_SEND: looking up host name alice.cheme.cornell.edu SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with VGER.CHEME.CORNELL.EDU. [128.84.243.13] SMTP_SEND: Connected SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 220 vger.cheme.cornell.edu MX V3.3 VAX SMTP server ready at Sat, 25 Sep 1993 11:55:31 EST SMTP_SEND: Sent: HELO buckie.hsc.colorado.edu SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 Hello, buckie.hsc.colorado.edu SMTP_SEND: Sent: MAIL FROM: SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 MAIL command accepted. SMTP_SEND: Sent: RCPT TO: SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 Recipient okay (at least in form) SMTP_SEND: Sent: DATA SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 354 Start mail input; end with . SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: by uh01.Colorado.EDU (MX V3.3 VAX) id 8215; Sat, 25 Sep 1993 09:55:08 SMTP_SEND: Sent: MDT SMTP_SEND: Sent: Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 09:55:07 MDT SMTP_SEND: Sent: From: Dan Wing SMTP_SEND: Sent: To: dwing%buckie.hsc.colorado.edu@alice.cheme.cornell.edu SMTP_SEND: Sent: Message-ID: <00973112.84112EC0.8215@uh01.Colorado.EDU> SMTP_SEND: Sent: Subject: testing SMTP_SEND: Sent: SMTP_SEND: Sent: testing SMTP_SEND: Sent: . SMTP_SEND: will wait 00:10:30.00 for reply. SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 Message received and queued. SMTP_SEND: Sent: QUIT SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 221 vger.cheme.cornell.edu Service closing transmission channel Recipient status=00000001 for Entry now completely processed, no retries needed. *** End of processing pass *** However, I haven't gotten mail back, which indicates that VGER may be having some sort of difficulties (buckie.hsc.colorado.edu has an A record, and no MX record) with outgoing mail. It appears that your have your MX records setup correctly in your DNS (because I was able to send mail to ALICE and my MX sent its mail to VGER -- I also checked a few of your nameservers which all showed the MX record), but your configuration of VGER may not be correct; could you post your MX PATH settings (only a guess as to what might be wrong at this point) -- you need to have alice.cheme.cornell.edu specified as a LOCAL delivery so MX running on VGER doesn't attempt to deliver mail to ALICE via SMTP at all. Another guess is that NETLIB has cached old information regarding your MX record, and you may want to restart MX -- if you define the logical NETLIB_DEBUG to TRUE, you should get some NETLIB debugging output in your MX_SMTP_LOG.LOG file which can be useful to see if that's what going on. You can shutdown and restart MX to clear out its cache. Also, MultiNet's nameserver may have cached old information, too. Like I said, though, just a guess. -dan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 12:29:49 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: RE: MX support of MX records? Date: 25 Sep 1993 17:13:22 GMT Message-ID: <281u7i$ivd@fitz.TC.Cornell.EDU> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <00973114.DDC82F20.8218@uh01.Colorado.EDU>, Dan Wing writes: >Steve Thompson, thompson@cheme.cornell.edu, wrote: > >>Now, if I send mail to myself@alice, should it not be redirected to vger? This >>doesn't happen; MX attempts to connect to alice's sendmail until the maximum >>number of attempts has been exceeded, at which time the mail bounces. >[...] >>and turning on MX_SMTP_DEBUG gives: >> >>[...debugging info omitted...] > >I tried sending mail to >and this is what happened in my MX_SMTP_LOG.LOG -- it was correctly delivered >using the MX record to VGER (with datestamps removed): > >[...more debugging info omitted...] >However, I haven't gotten mail back, which indicates that VGER may be having >some sort of difficulties (buckie.hsc.colorado.edu has an A record, and no >MX record) with outgoing mail. > >It appears that your have your MX records setup correctly in your DNS (because >I was able to send mail to ALICE and my MX sent its mail to VGER -- I also >checked a few of your nameservers which all showed the MX record), but your >configuration of VGER may not be correct; could you post your MX PATH settings >(only a guess as to what might be wrong at this point) -- you need to have >alice.cheme.cornell.edu specified as a LOCAL delivery so MX running on VGER >doesn't attempt to deliver mail to ALICE via SMTP at all. > >Another guess is that NETLIB has cached old information regarding your MX >record, and you may want to restart MX -- if you define the logical >NETLIB_DEBUG to TRUE, you should get some NETLIB debugging output in your >MX_SMTP_LOG.LOG file which can be useful to see if that's what going on. You >can shutdown and restart MX to clear out its cache. Also, MultiNet's >nameserver may have cached old information, too. Like I said, though, just a >guess. > >-dan Many many thanks to Dan for such a detailed and speedy reply. My problem was that I did not have a DEFINE PATH LOCAL command for Alice. Adding this fixed it. I did not realize that the DEFINE PATH was necessary; I thought that the DNS MX record would take care of it. Guess not! Thanks again Dan. -Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Thompson, System Mangler Internet: thompson@cheme.cornell.edu School of Chemical Engineering Bitnet: thompson@crnlchme Olin Hall, Cornell University Phone: (607) 255 5573 Ithaca NY 14853 FAX: (607) 255 9166 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 23:15:03 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: RE: MLF no priv message Date: 27 Sep 1993 03:32:50 GMT Message-ID: <285mt2INNmjf@gap.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <00973036.E6B81520.29806@uwwvax.uww.edu>, hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu writes: =24-SEP-1993 07:38:29.17 CHECK_ACCESS: checking hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu for acce =ss mask=00000010 =24-SEP-1993 07:38:29.17 CHECK_ACCESS: Access check failed. Requested acces =s denied. =24-SEP-1993 07:38:32.17 All done with this entry. Now, if you'd just sent the output of the MCP command SHOW LIST, we'd have at least a minimal chance of being able to help. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 23:15:09 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: RE: Q: "From" lines on messages from BITnet look strange Date: 27 Sep 1993 03:29:44 GMT Message-ID: <285mn8INNmjf@gap.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <0097302E.60F0B819.797@WKUVX1.BITNET>, "Hunter Goatley, WKU" writes: =>Sometimes messages originating from BITnet sites have "From" addresses that =>look like => =>MX%"user%node.BITNET@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu" => =>This is certainly replyable, but it seems kind of ugly. I would rather it =>just said MX%"user@node.BITNET". I'm under the impression that rewrite rules =>are applied only to outgoing mail. = =Correct. = =>I don't have any defined. I have read the =>MX Management Guide but am not much enlightened. => =>Can I fix this? If so, how? => =Have you tried MCP SET JNET/NOPERCENT_HACK? I must confess that I =don't know if that will solve the problem or not, because my setup has =never caused it. It's obvious from the headers in the original message that the percent-hacked return address is being generated by a machine somewhere upstream. MX is simply using the return address it's been handed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 06:23:30 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 06:22:53 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00973287.326AC939.1593@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: Q: "From" lines on messages from BITnet look strange writes: > >In article <0097302E.60F0B819.797@WKUVX1.BITNET>, "Hunter Goatley, WKU" > writes: >=>Sometimes messages originating from BITnet sites have "From" addresses that >=>look like >=> >=>MX%"user%node.BITNET@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu" >=> [...] >=>Can I fix this? If so, how? >=> >=Have you tried MCP SET JNET/NOPERCENT_HACK? I must confess that I >=don't know if that will solve the problem or not, because my setup has >=never caused it. > >It's obvious from the headers in the original message that the percent-hacked >return address is being generated by a machine somewhere upstream. MX is >simply using the return address it's been handed. No, it's not. It's obvious from the headers that the percent-hacked address was added by MX (yes, MX will munge BITNET addresses like this): ------------------------ Return-Path: <@CMSA.BERKELEY.EDU:owner-morris@SUVM.SYR.EDU> Received: from cmsa.Berkeley.EDU (MAILER) by SSRL750 (MX V3.3 VAX) with BSMTP; Thu, 23 Sep 1993 16:17:44 PST Received: from CMSA.BERKELEY.EDU by cmsa.Berkeley.EDU (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 1052; Thu, 23 Sep 93 16:07:02 PDT Received: from CMSA.BERKELEY.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UCBCMSA) by CMSA.BERKELEY.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0779; Thu, 23 Sep 1993 16:07:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 17:47:14 -0400 Reply-To: koosman%UTKVX.BITNET@SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Sender: Morris Dancing Discussion List From: Toby Koosman ------------------------ Note the first Received: line: "by SSRL750", which is the same machine as SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU: >Configuration file: MX_DEVICE:[MX]MX_CONFIG.MXCFG;26 > >Domain-to-path mappings: > Domain="ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu", Path=Local > Domain="ssrl01", Path=Local [...] > Domain="SSRL750", Path=Local > Domain="SSRL750.BITNET", Path=Local Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 01:42:58 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: how to install bulletin with MX-mail Message-ID: <28SEP93.13492171@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw> From: u435634@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 13:49:21 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET There is one directory called [.CONTRIB] in the MX_Mail directory. And one zip-file called MX_BULL.ZIP. Is it the BULLETIN in VAX? And how can I install it? Any quick method? And there are many files in this directory. Are they useful? Can you tell me? Thanks in advance... ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 05:37:31 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 05:36:54 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00973349.F04AB1D6.1978@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: how to install bulletin with MX-mail u435634@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw writes: > >There is one directory called [.CONTRIB] in the MX_Mail directory. >And one zip-file called MX_BULL.ZIP. Is it the BULLETIN in VAX? If you would read the file 00README.TXT in that directory, you'd find that that's: MX_BULL.ZIP Software for gatewaying a mailing list into BULLETIN. From Hunter Goatley. It's not BULLETIN; it's software that lets MX put messages in BULLETIN folders. >And how can I install it? Any quick method? If you'd bother to unzip the MX_BULL.ZIP file, you'd find instructions on installing it. And yes, it's pretty quick. >And there are many files in this directory. Are they useful? >Can you tell me? Yes. Read 00README.TXT!!! Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 10:05:44 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 16:02:21 +0100 From: Herve GILIBERT CRI universite Jean Monnet ST ETIENNE Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: mx-list@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <009733A1.507E1320.10241@stroph.univ-st-etienne.fr> Subject: Nicknames conversion. Hello, Using nicknames substitution from Louis B. Moore (thanks Louis), the mx_node_name seems to be used instead of the mx_vmsmail_from_format in the From: header. My mx_nicknames.dat looks like : GILIBERT HERVE.GILIBERT MX logicals are : "MX_ALIAS_HELPLIB" = "MX_DIR:MX_ALIAS_HELPLIB" "MX_DEVICE" = "STROPH$DUA0:" "MX_DIR" = "MX_DEVICE:[MX]" "MX_DOC" = "MX_ROOT:[DOC]" "MX_EXAMPLES_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[EXAMPLES]" "MX_EXE" = "MX_ROOT:[EXE]" "MX_FLQ_DIR" = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[MX.QUEUE]" "MX_FLQ_NODE_NAME" = "STROPH" "MX_FLQ_RECLAIM_WAIT" = "0 02:00:00" "MX_FLQ_SHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_FLQ_SHR" "MX_JNET_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[JNET]" "MX_LOCAL_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[LOCAL]" "MX_MAILSHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_MAILSHR" "MX_MAILSHRP" = "MX_EXE:MX_MAILSHRP" "MX_MCP_HELPLIB" = "MX_DIR:MX_MCP_HELPLIB" "MX_MLF_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[MLF]" "MX_MLIST_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[MLF.MAILING_LISTS]" = "MX_ROOT:[LOCAL.MLIST]" "MX_MSG" = "MX_EXE:MX_MSG" "MX_NICKNAMES" = "MX_EXE:MX_NICKNAMES.DAT" "MX_NODE_NAME" = "stroph.univ-st-etienne.fr" "MX_ROOT" = "MX_DEVICE:[MX.]" "MX_ROUTER_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[ROUTER]" "MX_SHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_SHR" "MX_SITE_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[SITE]" "MX_SITE_DOM_EXPANSION" = "MX_EXE:DOMAIN_EXPANSION" "MX_SITE_NAME_CONVERSION" = "MX_EXE:MX_NAME_CONVERSION" "MX_SMTP_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[SMTP]" "MX_UUCP_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[UUCP]" "MX_VMSMAIL_FROM_FORMAT" = "" "MX_VMSMAIL_LOCALHOST" = "@criter.univ-st-etienne.fr" Am I doing something wrong ? Any hints would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Herve GILIBERT UUUU UUUU CRITeR UUUU UUUU Universite Jean Monnet St-Etienne UUUU UUUU 23, Rue du Dr. P. Michelon UUUU UUUU 42023 ST ETIENNE Cedex 2 UUUU UUUU Tel : 33 77 42 15 79 UUUU UUUU Fax : 33 77 42 15 75 UUUUUUUUUUU RFC822: gilibert@criter.univ-st-etienne.fr UUUUUUUUU ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 10:10:15 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Subject: help with SMTP delivery problems Date: 28 Sep 1993 14:13:07 GMT Message-ID: <289gpj$fj7@samba.oit.unc.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET I'm having a lot of mail bouncing back for no reason I can determine by myself -- so Help! VMS 5.4-3 UCX 1.3 MX 3.3 Here's a typical MX_SMTP_LOG.LOG: 28-SEP-1993 09:58:00.29 Processing queue entry number 21332 on node TRLN 28-SEP-1993 09:58:00.80 Recipient: , route=PS.UIB.ES 28-SEP-1993 09:58:00.80 Recipient: , route=ITS.NLC-BNC.CA 28-SEP-1993 09:58:00.80 Recipient: , route=BK2000.PKO.DEC.COM 28-SEP-1993 09:58:00.81 Recipient: , route=CIS.GEORCOLL.ON.CA 28-SEP-1993 09:58:00.81 Recipient: , route=TENET.EDU 28-SEP-1993 09:58:00.81 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name PS.UIB.ES 28-SEP-1993 09:58:00.98 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with PS.UIB.ES [130.206.33.5] 28-SEP-1993 09:58:05.76 -- failed, status=00000294 28-SEP-1993 09:58:05.76 SMTP_SEND: Failed, sts=00000294 28-SEP-1993 09:58:05.76 SMTP send failed, sts=0C27804A, sts2=00000294 28-SEP-1993 09:58:05.76 Recipient status=0C27804A for 28-SEP-1993 09:58:05.76 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name ITS.NLC-BNC.CA 28-SEP-1993 09:58:05.88 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with ITS.NLC-BNC.CA [142.78.40.21] 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.01 -- failed, status=0000022C 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.01 SMTP_SEND: Failed, sts=0000022C 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.01 SMTP send failed, sts=0C27804A, sts2=0000022C 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.02 Recipient status=0C27804A for 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.02 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name BK2000.PKO.DEC.COM 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.13 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with BK2000.PKO.DEC.COM [16.124.0.69] 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.23 -- failed, status=00002094 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.24 SMTP_SEND: Failed, sts=00002094 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.24 SMTP send failed, sts=0C27804A, sts2=00002094 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.24 Recipient status=0C27804A for 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.24 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name CIS.GEORCOLL.ON.CA 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.36 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with CIS.GEORCOLL.ON.CA [192.139.153.22] 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.63 -- failed, status=00000294 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.63 SMTP_SEND: Failed, sts=00000294 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.63 SMTP send failed, sts=0C27804A, sts2=00000294 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.63 Recipient status=0C27804A for 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.63 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name TENET.EDU 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.75 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with TENET.EDU [128.83.185.90] 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.81 -- failed, status=00000294 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.81 SMTP_SEND: Failed, sts=00000294 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.81 SMTP send failed, sts=0C27804A, sts2=00000294 28-SEP-1993 09:59:21.81 Recipient status=0C27804A for 28-SEP-1993 09:59:22.49 5 rcpts need retry, next try 28-SEP-1993 10:29:22.49 28-SEP-1993 09:59:22.52 *** End of processing pass *** When I check the status of any of the sites returning a status code of 294, they are alive. (UCX LOOP, equivalent to PING) The sites returning other statuses are reported by UCX to not respond. Anyone have any clues? Should I be talking to our local network systems people who have been testing router configurations over the last week? Thanks. -- Dennis R. Sherman Triangle Research Libraries Network dennis_sherman@unc.edu Univ. of North Carolina - Chapel Hill ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 10:33:02 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 09:29:02 MDT From: Dan Wing Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: dennis_sherman@unc.edu Message-ID: <0097336A.5E9852E0.9526@uh01.Colorado.EDU> Subject: RE: help with SMTP delivery problems >When I check the status of any of the sites returning a status code of >294, they are alive. (UCX LOOP, equivalent to PING) Well: $ SET MESSAGE MX_MSG $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$MESSAGE(%X0294) %SYSTEM-F-REJECT, connect to network object rejected Which means MX couldn't get a connection to port 25 (the SMTP port) of those nodes. The other error you were getting (022C) is device timeout, which could be because there isn't a path between you and the remote node, or the remote node's accepted a connection on its SMTP port but never gave us a "hello" message. >The sites returning other statuses are reported by UCX to not respond. > >Anyone have any clues? Should I be talking to our local network >systems people who have been testing router configurations over the >last week? I would use TRACEROUTE to check the other sites. If you can get to the other sites using TRACEROUTE, the problem could be: - at the other sites - a router configuration problem at your end or at the remote end which is preventing connections to port 25 of those systems. -dan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 11:03:35 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 16:50:19 EDT From: "Andy, Systems Manager" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: mx-list%wkuvx1.bitnet@ulkyvm.louisville.edu Message-ID: <009733A8.03F1A740.23778@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk> Subject: SMTP process dying Dear All, Twice now, in the space of two days, I have had the MX SMTP process (outgoing stuff) die with an access violation. The Only entry in the SMTP log is: 24-SEP-1993 17:16:11.83: MX SMTP (pid 23A01326) starting 27-SEP-1993 21:11:39.90: MX SMTP (pid 23A01326) exiting, status = 1000000C The error code translates to: %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=!XB, virtual address=!XL, PC=!XL, PSL=!XL This is MX 3.3 on a VAX 4000-100. Can anyone suggest why this might be happening and what to do about it? Will debugging give me any further detail? As far as I can tell, the underlying IP transport is pretty stable (CMU 6.6-5A with NETLIB 1.5) so I don't think that's the problem. As we tend to rely on MX quite heavily nowadays, I'm having to monitor it every now and again to make sure it's still up. Thus, i would appreciate any hints/tips etc. Regards, Andy Harper Kings College London ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 11:14:12 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 11:13:24 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00973378.F2AD73B7.2094@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: SMTP process dying "Andy, Systems Manager" writes: > >Dear All, > >Twice now, in the space of two days, I have had the MX SMTP process (outgoing >stuff) die with an access violation. The Only entry in the SMTP log is: [...] >Can anyone suggest why this might be happening and what to do about it? Will >debugging give me any further detail? Debugging would help pinpoint the message(s) that is(are) causing the problem(s). I would define MX_SMTP_DEBUG and set a version limit of say 10 or so on the debug .LOG files. When it dies, the latest .LOG file should provide more info. >As we tend to rely on MX quite heavily nowadays, I'm having to monitor it every >now and again to make sure it's still up. Thus, i would appreciate any >hints/tips etc. > Until the problem is solved, defining MX_EVENT_OPER_CLASS as, say, NETWORK, before the agents are started will cause alarms to be generated if any of them die unexpectedly. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 12:03:22 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 12:00:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "David J. Effa" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET CC: EFFAD@cometc.cmis.abbott.com Message-ID: <930928120026.20c00ca0@comet.cmis.abbott.com> Subject: RE: SMTP process dying >Subject: SMTP process dying > >Dear All, > >Twice now, in the space of two days, I have had the MX SMTP process (outgoing >stuff) die with an access violation. The Only entry in the SMTP log is: > >24-SEP-1993 17:16:11.83: MX SMTP (pid 23A01326) starting >27-SEP-1993 21:11:39.90: MX SMTP (pid 23A01326) exiting, status = 1000000C > >The error code translates to: > >%SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=!XB, virtual address=!XL, > PC=!XL, PSL=!XL > >This is MX 3.3 on a VAX 4000-100. > >Can anyone suggest why this might be happening and what to do about it? Will >debugging give me any further detail? As far as I can tell, the underlying IP >transport is pretty stable (CMU 6.6-5A with NETLIB 1.5) so I don't think that's >the problem. > I had this happen to me (a lot). I found that is was a quoting problem in one of my REWRITE RULES. -Dave -- +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | David J. Effa | | | Abbott Laboratories | Internet: effad@comet.cmis.abbott.com | | Dept 048 Bldg AP14B | | | One Abbott Park Road | FAX: +1 708 938 5172 | | Abbott Park, IL 60064 USA | | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ Any Options Expressed By The Speaker/Management, May Not Necessarily Be Those of the Management/Speaker. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 14:35:28 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 13:31:15 MST From: "Louis B. Moore" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET CC: lbmoore@tchden.org Message-ID: <0097338C.34791EA0.1946@tchden.org> Subject: RE: Nicknames conversion. >Using nicknames substitution from Louis B. Moore (thanks Louis), the >mx_node_name seems to be used instead of the mx_vmsmail_from_format in the >From: header. >My mx_nicknames.dat looks like : The nickname converter does translate MX_NODE_NAME instead of working from MX_VMSMAIL_FROM_FORMAT. I will be delving into MX_NAME_CONVERSION.MAR in the not to distant future and will address this and some other bugs/suggestions. Louis B. Moore Internet: MOORE.LOUIS@tchden.org Systems Programmer Phone: +1.303.837.2513 The Children's Hospital of Denver Denver, Colorado USA 80218 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 17:44:29 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 18:35:27 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <009733B6.B3E4F4A0.24037@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: how to install bulletin with MX-mail > If you would read the file 00README.TXT in that directory, you'd find > that that's: > > MX_BULL.ZIP Software for gatewaying a mailing list into > BULLETIN. From Hunter Goatley. At the risk of not reading this documentation either, I ask a couple of question of general interest. 1) Do I understand correctly that this software can be used to gateway a mailing list into a Usenet newsgroup? 2) How does the reverse work: How does one retreive messages from a newsserver and forward them to a mailing list? (Of course, this process filters out messages that originated from the mailing list in the first place.) Clearly this is being done successfully with MX-List at mvb.saic.com; I was wondering how. (If a CFV passes, I may have occasion to set up a gateway to one of my mailing lists.) - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 18:00:21 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 16:53:22 -0700 (MST) From: ccvax@rikki.cc.colorado.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: RE: How to turn MM support *off*? To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <009733A8.70AAC44D.64@rikki.cc.colorado.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >> MX V3.3 VAX seems to deliver message to Multinet's MM if MAIL.TXT is found >>in SYS$LOGIN: strange things happen if MAIL.TXT is not MM's file (maximum >>record length becomes 1). >> ...... > >If the MM.INIT file is not a practical option, let me know. I may >be able to come up with a patch that disables it. > >Hunter >------ I've been "away" for a month (clustering) and just ran into this problem. Was there a resolution to this? (I missed july 30 through sep 15 messages). I have over 700 novice users, and an mm.init file would be cumbersome. Thanks, Karen Michels ********************************************************************* * Karen Michels * * Academic Computing ccvax@cc.colorado.edu (internet) * * The Colorado College ccvax%ccnode@colorado (bitnet) * * 14 E. Cache La Poudre * * Colorado Springs, CO 80903 719-389-6457 * ********************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 18:06:12 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 17:03:16 MDT From: Dan Wing Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <009733A9.D31271C0.10043@uh01.Colorado.EDU> Subject: RE: how to install bulletin with MX-mail >> MX_BULL.ZIP Software for gatewaying a mailing list into >> BULLETIN. From Hunter Goatley. > >At the risk of not reading this documentation either, I ask a couple of >question of general interest. > >1) Do I understand correctly that this software can be used to gateway > a mailing list into a Usenet newsgroup? No; BULLETIN isn't USENET, it is really used for message-of-the-day sortof things (by most sites); however, some sites use BULLETIN to store USENET news. BULLETIN has features similar to a combination of news and mail. >2) How does the reverse work: How does one retreive messages from > a newsserver and forward them to a mailing list? (Of course, this > process filters out messages that originated from the mailing list > in the first place.) > >Clearly this is being done successfully with MX-List at mvb.saic.com; >I was wondering how. (If a CFV passes, I may have occasion to set up a >gateway to one of my mailing lists.) The MX SITE agent can be used to force an article into ANU-News -- there are examples in the [.CONTRIB] directory to do it: see MAIL_NEWS.VMS_SHARE and there's probably others, too. Or, you can use the techniques that are in some of the ANU-News files which show how to get mail into a newsgroup, and get news articles sent via mail. -Dan Wing, Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing@eisner.decus.org ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 18:14:59 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 18:11:19 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <009733B3.54528465.2266@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: How to turn MM support *off*? ccvax@rikki.cc.colorado.edu writes: > >>> MX V3.3 VAX seems to deliver message to Multinet's MM if MAIL.TXT is found >>>in SYS$LOGIN: strange things happen if MAIL.TXT is not MM's file (maximum >>>record length becomes 1). >>> >...... >>If the MM.INIT file is not a practical option, let me know. I may >>be able to come up with a patch that disables it. >> >I've been "away" for a month (clustering) and just ran into this problem. >Was there a resolution to this? (I missed july 30 through sep 15 messages). >I have over 700 novice users, and an mm.init file would be cumbersome. > I have .EXEs that will allow you to disable MM support. If you want the .EXEs, send me *private* mail and I'll send them to you. I haven't had time to put together an update kit, so all I have are the .EXEs. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 08:54:22 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 09:52:20 EDT From: smcneilly@fred.bsc.mass.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-list%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Message-ID: <00973436.CA2352E0.5788@fred.bsc.mass.edu> Subject: E-mail Addressing I believe this problem has been solved thousands of times, but not here, so I hope that this question is not too tiresome. We have a small network here (part of a larger, state-wide autonomous system) which includes a few VAX VMS hosts and an ULTRIX host. The VAXes are running VMS 5.5, UCX 2.0D, and MX 3.3. Users on this network have e-mail addresses which look like this: username@host1.bsc.mass.edu, username@host2.bsc.mass.edu, etc. All of this works well. The problem is that I have received requests from several users who would prefer to have e-mail addresses of the form: username@bsc.mass.edu, i.e., without the host name. I think there are three key parts to the implementation of this request. 1. Place an entry in the gateway name server which identifies hostn as bsc.mass.edu, so that mail so addressed will be directed to that host. Hostn, clearly, is the VMS host selected to initially receive mail directed to username@bsc.mass.edu. 2. An alias list on hostn which will direct mail to the proper host. Is there a better approach? Anything special to watch out for in path definitions? (The total number of users is only a few hundred.) 3. Part 2 takes care of incoming. For outgoing mail we would want an address translation to remove the host name, i.e., convert username@host1.bsc.mass.edu to username@bsc.mass.edu. I have no idea how this would be done. Any suggestions? Any suggestions, comments, solutions, or even reasons why this might not be a good idea would be greatly appreciated. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@fred.bsc.mass.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 09:04:00 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: 29 Sep 1993 13:25:05 +0600 (GMT+6:00) From: "Mikhail V. Beilin (INP,Novosibirsk)" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00973454.826BA920.5746@vxinpb.inp.nsk.su> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT SUBSCRIBE MX-LIST "Mikhail V. Beilin" --- Mikhail V. Beilin | Internet: Beilin@inp.nsk.su Systems and Network Manager | Fax: +7 (3832) 35-21-63 Institute of Nuclear Physics | Phone: +7 (3832) 35-99-32 Novosibirsk,Russia | ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 09:58:46 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: RE: Q: "From" lines on messages from BITnet look strange Message-ID: <28c1a0INNiie@gap.caltech.edu> From: Date: 29 Sep 1993 13:07:12 GMT Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <00973287.326AC939.1593@WKUVX1.BITNET>, "Hunter Goatley, WKU" writes: =>=>MX%"user%node.BITNET@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu" =Note the first Received: line: "by SSRL750", which is the same machine =as SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU: Sorry, my mistake. I'd looked for the string "SSRL01" in the headers, and couldn't find it. I missed the fact that the machine also goes by the name SSRL750. Why do some people insist on giving their machines different names on different networks? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 10:23:22 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 13:11:28 +0300 From: syseng@BHUOB00.BITNET Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00973452.9BB67E20.6968@bhuob00> Subject: Netdat Mail error ? Dear Networkers, I recieved this reply, from one site only although there are so many users sending mails, the same way, could any one tell what is wrong ? From: Computer.Centre%"DEADMAIL@IBM-B.RUTHERFORD.AC.UK" 29-SEP-1993 12:58:13.28 To: POSTMASTER CC: Subj: Undelivered Mail From: "Postmaster" Subject: Undelivered Mail To: postmaster@bhuob00 This mail file & several similar ones have got stuck at our mailer in the last week. I understand that the file your system is sending is netdata format & is not correct. Regards, DEADMAIL Postmaster User Support & Applications Group Rutherford Appleton Laboratory (UK EARN/BITNET-JANET Gateway) *----------------------------------------------------------* *If you need further assistance, contact User Support at * *RAL (US@RL.IB from JANET; US@IB.RL.AC.UK from outside UK * *fax0235 44 5808 , telex 83159 from UK * *TEL: 0235 821900 x6389 (will be 44 235 ... outside UK) * * Postal address: * * R27/G38 Rutherford-Appleton Lab, Chilton, Didcot, * * OXON OX11 0QX England * *----------------------------------------------------------* Regards , Network officer. What follows is the failing mail file and diagnostics: µ\INMR01”&BHUOB00MAILE9281.. 11140290000®\INMR02YØ.. AMAILERMAIL\INMR03HEL.. O BHUOB00.BITNET‚{MAIL FROM:{RC...... PT TO:†{DATA+{Received: from ISA.. (ISA::SYSTEM) by SUKAIR (MX V3.3 VAX) with SMTP (DECnet);‹{.. Tue, 28 Sep 1993 14:11:16 +0300({Received: by bhuob00 (.. MX V3.3 VAX) id 2433; Tue, 28 Sep 1993 14:10:22 +0300{Sender: .. ek514@BHUOB00.BITNET{Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 14:10:21 +0300.. {From: ek514@BHUOB00.BITNET€{Reply-To: ek514@BHUOB00.BITNET”{To:... computer.centre%"Edward.Twizell@brunel.ac.uk"@BHUOB00.BITNET.. {Message-ID: <00973391.AABE9400.2433@bhuob00>{Subject: RE: BASHIR and ... ...................{best reagrds,†{aqmk...etc R06 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 10:40:08 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 10:39:26 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <0097343D.5EB40EB2.2461@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: Netdat Mail error ? syseng@BHUOB00.BITNET writes: > >Dear Networkers, > >I recieved this reply, from one site only although there are so many users >sending mails, the same way, could any one tell what is wrong ? > [...] >> This mail file & several similar ones have got stuck at our mailer in the >>last week. I understand that the file your system is sending is netdata format >>& is not correct. >> You must be using BITEARN.NODES and, thus, MX_JNET_DIR:MXBITNET.MAILERS. The only way MX will send a file in NETDATA format is if the site is listed in BITEARN.NODES is listed as being able to accept NETDATA for mail. Searching the message you included, I noted the following odd line: To: computer.centre%"Edward.Twizell@brunel.ac.uk"@BHUOB00.BITNET I don't have any idea how this actually made it out anywhere; sounds like you better turn on MX_ROUTER_DEBUG and MX_JNET_DEBUG to see how the file is getting out of your system and why it's being sent NETDATA. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 11:11:16 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Re: help with SMTP delivery problems Message-ID: <28c73j$2vu@samba.oit.unc.edu> From: Date: 29 Sep 1993 14:46:11 GMT Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET I posted: >I'm having a lot of mail bouncing back for no reason I can determine >by myself -- so Help! > >VMS 5.4-3 >UCX 1.3 >MX 3.3 > >Here's a typical MX_SMTP_LOG.LOG: > [...deleted...] The problem has been resolved, although I don't know how. A system reboot (which wasn't intended, but happened anyway :-( seems to have fixed the problem. But I still have a question or two from the evidence I was collecting in an attempt to understand what was going on. Here's an SMTP log from attempting to send mail to myself: 28-SEP-1993 13:22:34.09 Processing queue entry number 21600 on node TRLN 28-SEP-1993 13:22:34.49 Recipient: , route=unc.edu 28-SEP-1993 13:22:34.49 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name unc.edu 28-SEP-1993 13:22:34.75 SMTP_SEND: Failed, sts=00000870 28-SEP-1993 13:22:34.75 SMTP send failed, sts=0C278024, sts2=00000870 28-SEP-1993 13:22:34.75 Recipient status=0C278024 for 28-SEP-1993 13:22:35.35 1 rcpts need retry, next try 28-SEP-1993 13:52:35.35 28-SEP-1993 13:22:35.39 *** End of processing pass *** What does the sts=00000870 mean? Is it really End of File? What file? Thanks for any light that may be shed. -- Dennis R. Sherman Triangle Research Libraries Network dennis_sherman@unc.edu Univ. of North Carolina - Chapel Hill ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 11:14:11 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 12:09:53 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0097344A.017247C0.24114@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: how to install bulletin with MX-mail > No; BULLETIN isn't USENET, it is really used for message-of-the-day sortof > things (by most sites); however, some sites use BULLETIN to store USENET > news. BULLETIN has features similar to a combination of news and mail. Interesting. At our site, a prominent host runs BULLETIN primarily as a newsreader. > The MX SITE agent can be used to force an article into ANU-News -- there > are examples in the [.CONTRIB] directory to do it: see MAIL_NEWS.VMS_SHARE > and there's probably others, too. > > Or, you can use the techniques that are in some of the ANU-News files > which show how to get mail into a newsgroup, and get news articles sent > via mail. I don't get the sense from your comments that this is a "preferred" method of creating a gateway. Does anyone else have sage advice? - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 11:21:29 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 09:44:19 EDT From: "Russell O. Redman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.BITNET CC: redman@hiaras.hia.nrc.ca Message-ID: <00973435.AB48E020.28637@HIARAS.HIA.NRC.CA> Subject: Another one for the wish list... Dear Hunter, Had an interesting little problem last week in which the MX_SMTP process refused to start. I should immediately state that the problem was not an MX problem - I had misconfigured CMU-Open-TCP about two weeks before and only just got around to rebooting last week. The trouble was that the CMU-Open-TCP part LOOKED like it was running perfectly, and the only symptom of trouble was that the MX_SMTP process flatly and absolutely refused to start. I tried all kinds of things to see what was wrong. Turning on MX_SMTP_LOG did not help, because nothing went into the log file. I finally scavanged the relevant lines out of MX_START.COM and tried to start MX_SMTP up manually with lines like $ START/INPUT=NL:/OUTPUT=out.log/ERROR=error.log MX_EXE:MX_SMTP where I would fiddle the definitions of out.log and error.log. Oddly, if I set both of these files to SYS$OUTPUT then a set of error messages was displayed on the screen - twice! If only one of them was set to SYS$OUTPUT then the error message appeared once on the screen, but nothing went into the disk file. If both of them were redirected to a disk file, the error messages were neither dispayed, nor recorded in the files. Perhaps one of you system wizards can suggest why the error messages were not recorded on disk, but this is not the real core of the problem. The gist of the messages were that a logical name was not defined on line 30. Line 30 of WHAT? It did not say... I finally fetched the MX source files and went digging. Not knowing any BLISS made this a frustrating process, but as best I could tell it tried to find INET_HOST_NAME (or something like that) in the startup code, failed and exitted. This was enough of a clue that I went back and corrected my CMU_Open-TCP setup, and have had no trouble since. So after all that, what is my problem? MX works great and never actually gave me a moments trouble! But it would have saved a lot of time if every testable condition which would cause the process to exit would write an explicit error message in the log file, something like "INET_HOST_NAME not defined - exitting". This kind of error checking happens during the processing of a message when logging is enabled, but needs to be added to the startup code as well. As it is, the program gets a bad status reply from the system, skips to the end of the program and exits silently. It did not look like there were a lot of places that changes would have to be inserted. So here is my suggestion for the wish list: Every time any MX process exits under program control, the log file should be opened and the explicit reason for the exit should be written into the log file, regardless of whether logging is enabled or not. Thanks to you and Matt for a great product, Russell O. Redman ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 11:32:49 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 11:31:51 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <00973444.B0C7A879.2526@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: Re: help with SMTP delivery problems writes: > >I posted: > [...] >The problem has been resolved, although I don't know how. A system >reboot (which wasn't intended, but happened anyway :-( seems to have >fixed the problem. But I still have a question or two from the >evidence I was collecting in an attempt to understand what was going >on. > >Here's an SMTP log from attempting to send mail to myself: > >28-SEP-1993 13:22:34.09 Processing queue entry number 21600 on node TRLN >28-SEP-1993 13:22:34.49 Recipient: , route=unc.edu >28-SEP-1993 13:22:34.49 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name unc.edu >28-SEP-1993 13:22:34.75 SMTP_SEND: Failed, sts=00000870 >28-SEP-1993 13:22:34.75 SMTP send failed, sts=0C278024, sts2=00000870 >28-SEP-1993 13:22:34.75 Recipient status=0C278024 for >28-SEP-1993 13:22:35.35 1 rcpts need retry, next try 28-SEP-1993 13:52:35.35 >28-SEP-1993 13:22:35.39 *** End of processing pass *** > >What does the sts=00000870 mean? Is it really End of File? What >file? > I'm pretty sure that that's what UCX returns when it gets no response from the domain name server when it tries to look up the name. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 12:37:58 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 13:32:08 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <00973455.7E93F7C0.24134@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Another one for the wish list... > Had an interesting little problem last week in which the MX_SMTP process > refused to start. FYI, here's a recent message from this group: |Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 11:09:16 EDT |Message-ID: <00971E40.E5DB3E00.21230@garnet.nist.gov> |Subject: RE: Problem with MX SMTP and CMU-TEK V6.6-5A | |> I am having a problem with MX V3.3 and CMU-TEK/ip V 6.6-5A. |> |> The MX SMTP process starts but immediately exits. The system |> worked with CMU/TEK V 6.6-5. |> |> Any ideas? | |In IP_STARTUP.COM, which was replaced when you upgraded to version V 6.6-5A, |you have to uncomment and edit the line with the INTERNET_HOST_NAME |definition. | |While you are editing that file, also comment out the line(s) having to do |with the TCP$SMPTSV variable. It's not an uncommon error (I did the same thing), but one that could also be addressed in release notes. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 06:41:37 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 06:40:18 EST From: "Steve Thompson, Cheme System Mangler" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: mx-list@WKUVX1.BITNET CC: olin@cheme.cornell.edu Message-ID: <009734E5.20DFC4C0.22697@cheme.cornell.edu> Subject: question concerning site delivery agent In order to share a common mail spool amongst several different kinds of Unix machines, I find myself in the situation of having to configure sendmail.cf on each machine to send all mail (including local mail) to my MX cluster for delivery. By suitably setting up the VMS mail forwarding database, I can arrange for mail for those users who wish to read their mail on a Unix machine to be sent to SITE_DELIVER.COM for processing. Here I can write the mail to a unix-style mail file, which gets stuffed in a directory which is NFS-mounted on the Unix clients as /var/spool/mail (/usr/mail for the HP systems). This all works fine; there is only one forwarding database (on the VMS systems) instead of a bunch of .forward files (one for each architecture). My question is this: the P3 parameter of SITE_DELIVER.COM is the name of a file containing the recipient's address. Can this file contain more than one address? Or, if the message is destined for more than one recipient, will SITE_DELIVER be called multiple times, once for each recipient? -Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Thompson, System Mangler Internet: thompson@cheme.cornell.edu School of Chemical Engineering Bitnet: thompson@crnlchme Olin Hall, Cornell University Phone: (607) 255 5573 Ithaca NY 14853 FAX: (607) 255 9166 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 07:26:51 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 07:26:09 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Message-ID: <009734EB.8870C39F.2858@WKUVX1.BITNET> Subject: RE: question concerning site delivery agent "Steve Thompson, Cheme System Mangler" writes: > >My question is this: the P3 parameter of SITE_DELIVER.COM is the name >of a file containing the recipient's address. Can this file contain >more than one address? Or, if the message is destined for more than >one recipient, will SITE_DELIVER be called multiple times, once for >each recipient? > I will have more than one address if the message is destined for more than one SITE address. I think. It may include all recipients, I don't remember. When I wrote MX_BULL, I played it safe and checked for "@BULLETIN" in the address before trying to process it locally, so you could do the same (check for ....SITE, or whatever). Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET (or goathunter%wkuvx1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 07:41:33 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 08:36:27 EST From: "Steve Thompson, Cheme System Mangler" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: olin@cheme.cornell.edu Message-ID: <009734F5.5AA36A80.22867@cheme.cornell.edu> Subject: RE: question concerning site delivery agent >I will have more than one address if the message is destined for more >than one SITE address. I think. It may include all recipients, I >don't remember. When I wrote MX_BULL, I played it safe and checked >for "@BULLETIN" in the address before trying to process it locally, so >you could do the same (check for ....SITE, or whatever). Thanks; I suspected that. I'll play it safe too! Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Thompson, System Mangler Internet: thompson@cheme.cornell.edu School of Chemical Engineering Bitnet: thompson@crnlchme Olin Hall, Cornell University Phone: (607) 255 5573 Ithaca NY 14853 FAX: (607) 255 9166 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 10:50:37 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET From: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: firewall against mails Message-ID: Keywords: accept hosts,reject hosts Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 12:46:42 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET is there a mechanism comparable to multinets accept-hosts and reject-hosts to prevent mails from certain hosts (with disfunct mailers) franz maier edvz,univ.salzburg austria ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 14:31:19 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 13:07:56 EDT From: Local delivery agent Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Subject: LOCAL delivery error Note: this message was generated automatically. An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. --> Error description: Error-For: d2dcfec@fre.fsu.umd.edu Error-Code: 2 Error-Text: Error in auto-forward from username D2DCFEC to: forwarding loop detected Error-End: 1 error detected ------------------------------ Rejected message ------------------------------ Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 12:09:09 EDT Resent-From: Resent-To: Received: by fre.fsu.umd.edu (MX V3.3 VAX) id 30556; Thu, 30 Sep 1993 12:07:59 EDT Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 11:58:59 EDT From: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Message-ID: <00973511.A603EBA0.30556@fre.fsu.umd.edu> Subject: firewall against mails Return-path: Received: from ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU by TOE.TOWSON.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #3807) id <01H3K47WIMRK8Y6CSH@TOE.TOWSON.EDU>; Thu, 30 Sep 1993 11:53:53 EST Received: from ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU by ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5370; Thu, 30 Sep 93 11:53:21 EDT Received: from WKUVX1.BITNET by ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 9509; Thu, 30 Sep 93 11:53:18 EDT Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 12:46:42 +0000 (GMT) From: maier@edvz.sbg.ac.at Subject: firewall against mails Sender: list-mgr%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU To: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Errors-to: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: MX-List%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU Message-id: Organization: EDVZ, Univ. Salzburg X-Envelope-to: D2DCFEC@FRE00 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-ListName: Message Exchange Discussion List X-Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx Lines: 7 X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] X-Gateway-Source-Info: USENET Keywords: accept hosts,reject hosts is there a mechanism comparable to multinets accept-hosts and reject-hosts to prevent mails from certain hosts (with disfunct mailers) franz maier edvz,univ.salzburg austria ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 19:17:39 CDT Sender: list-mgr@WKUVX1.BITNET Subject: Re: question concerning site delivery agent Message-ID: <1993Sep30.184803.23046@news.arc.nasa.gov> From: Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 18:48:03 GMT Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET To: MX-List@WKUVX1.BITNET In article <009734E5.20DFC4C0.22697@cheme.cornell.edu>, "Steve Thompson, Cheme System Mangler" writes: >My question is this: the P3 parameter of SITE_DELIVER.COM is the name >of a file containing the recipient's address. Can this file contain >more than one address? Or, if the message is destined for more than >one recipient, will SITE_DELIVER be called multiple times, once for >each recipient? When I first did the SITE agent, the P3 file listed every SITE recipient, and the agent was passed only one message no matter how many SITE recipients there were for the message. Unfortunately, there is no mechanism for passing back per-recipient error codes from the subprocess, so I changed it so that SITE_DELIVER.COM is called once for each SITE recipient and the P3 file contains only one address. I was going to try and work out some scheme for dealing with per-recipient errors and change back to doing one message with multiple recipients, but I never got round to it. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | madison@tgv.com | +1 408 457 5200 TGV, Inc. | 101 Cooper Street | Santa Cruz, CA 95060 USA