Archive-Date: Sun, 01 May 1994 00:05:42 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sun, 01 May 1994 00:05:32 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097DC0E.44D6F4E0.78@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU> Subject: MX-LIST Administrivia: Monthly Post Posting statistics for list MX-LIST during April 1994 Total number of posts: 231 Total number of posters: 96 Total number of subscribers: 223 Total number of digest subscribers: 35 Last modified: 31-MAY-1993 23:55 (Added digest info.) Welcome to MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, an electronic mailing list established for the discussion of the Message Exchange mail software. This is a routine posting you will see from time to time on MX-List. MX-List postings are also available in a daily digest format. To subscribe to the digest, send the following command in the body of a mail message to MXserver@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU: SUBSCRIBE MX-List-Digest "Your real name here" The MX-List archives are maintained at ARCHIVES@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU. To get a copy of any month's postings, send an e-mail message with the body SEND MX-List.yyyy-mm to ARCHIVES@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, where "yyyy" is the year and "mm" is the numeric representation of the month. For example, the message SENDME MX-List.1992-04 will send the archives for April 1992. MX itself is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.spc.edu in [.MX.MX033]. You can also get it via e-mail by sending the commands SEND MX033 and SEND FILESERV_TOOLS on separate lines in the body of a mail message to FILESERV@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU. To remove yourself from the mailing list, send the following command to MXserver@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU: SIGNOFF MX-List MXserver supports a few other commands for your convenience. The following commands can be handled automatically by the list processor: SIGNOFF MX-List - to remove yourself from the list REVIEW MX-List - to get a list of subscribers QUERY MX-List - to get the status of your entry on the list SET MX-List NOMAIL - to remain on the list but not receive mail SET MX-List MAIL - to resume receiving mail from the list SET MX-List CONCEAL - to not report your address in a REVIEW SET MX-List NOCONCEAL - to report your address in a REVIEW SET MX-List REPRO - to receive posts you make to MX-List SET MX-List NOREPRO - to not receive posts you make to MX-List LIST - to get a list of mailing lists served by WKUVX1 HELP - to receive a help file By default, subscriptions are set to MAIL, REPRO, NOCONCEAL. If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions about MX-List, please contact the list owner at the address below. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Hunter Goatley, VAX Systems Programmer goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Western Kentucky University Academic Computing, STH 226 (502) 745-5251 Bowling Green, KY 42101 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 01 May 1994 15:44:46 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Leading '.' chars reproduce in MX mail Message-ID: <1994May1.135624.393@ondec.lonestar.org> From: d_north@ondec.lonestar.org (David G. North, CCP) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: 1 May 94 13:56:24 CDT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU [REPOST from vmsnet.uucp, original article, 1 reply, and my reply]: Here's a puzzle: I have, on several occasions, received an MFTU'd file from an adjacent site. The mftu'd file causes a problem during decode saying: 81 byte record is too large for users buffer. The problem is invariably a line 81 characters long starting with two '.' characters. Solution is to go thru the file & remove 1 of the two leading dots on every 81-character line. The file then decodes correctly. Has anyone else ever seen this before or know what it is? I could not reproduce it with "loop" mail... Even any ideas as to how to try to provoke the problem would be appreciated. My suspicions are that it is the UUCP software, but MX is involved as well on both ends [UUCP only]. In article <1994May1.021739.1@spcvxb.spc.edu>, terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) writes: >In article <1994Apr30.104125.389@ondec.lonestar.org>, d_north@ondec.lonestar.org (David G. North, CCP) writes: >> Has anyone else ever seen this before or know what it is? I could not >> reproduce it with "loop" mail... Even any ideas as to how to try to provoke >> the problem would be appreciated. My suspicions are that it is the UUCP >> software, but MX is involved as well on both ends [UUCP only]. > > Sounds like a rather creative misinterpretation of the "dot alone on a line >ends DATA in SMTP", but I don't think Jamie & co would make a mistake that >horrible - I suspect a mailer along the way is doing this to you... I reply: Nope. Just UUCP & MX, two hosts, same s/w both sides. I _did_ discover that it DOESN'T happen if I bang it thru a site that's DECUS UUCP only (thus the statement above about not being able to reproduce it)... IT NEEDS TO BE RUNNING MX. Obv., I should probably readdress this in vmsnet.mail.mx. A fine way to reproduce this is the send the message: .testingtestingtesting to an adjacent decus uucp/mx site to: bouncethis@hostname.whatever The bounce message has the problem resulting in a line "..testing--- Thanks again. -- David G. North, CCP, D_North@Ondec.Lonestar.Org {...!letni!tachyon!ondec...} "Unlike human beings, computers posses the truly profound stupidity of the inanimate." -Bruce Sterling- "The Hacker Crackdown" ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 01 May 1994 21:10:25 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: Leading '.' chars reproduce in MX mail Date: 2 May 1994 02:02:25 GMT Message-ID: <2q1mvh$1fp@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <1994May1.135624.393@ondec.lonestar.org>, d_north@ondec.lonestar.org (David G. North, CCP) writes: =Nope. Just UUCP & MX, two hosts, same s/w both sides. I _did_ discover that it =DOESN'T happen if I bang it thru a site that's DECUS UUCP only (thus the =statement above about not being able to reproduce it)... IT NEEDS TO BE =RUNNING MX. Obv., I should probably readdress this in vmsnet.mail.mx. A fine =way to reproduce this is the send the message: =.testingtestingtesting =to an adjacent decus uucp/mx site to: bouncethis@hostname.whatever = =The bounce message has the problem resulting in a line "..testing--- =Thanks again. Just tested it with Multinet/MX. No problem. So your difficulty is either in decus uucp or in MX's interaction with same. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 02 May 1994 11:09:56 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 02 May 1994 11:07:34 EDT From: kamrul@ycvax.york.cuny.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097DD33.EB782820.1077@ycvax.york.cuny.edu> Subject: How to address Allin1 user Would anyone please suggest me on this. On our VAX/VMS we use MX 3.3 for sending mail . UCX 2.0D is the transport. Usually at To: prompt in VMS mail we add MX%"user@node.domain". How do I address when the address itself has quotes. For example if the address is "mrgate::a1::kam"@ycavax.york.cuny.edu . Should I write it as To: """mrgate::a1::kam""@ycvax.york.cuny.edu" Thank you for your response. Sincerely, Kamrul ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 02 May 1994 11:29:42 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 02 May 1994 09:23:18 -0700 From: "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST%WKUVX1.BITNET@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: rharwood@Data.Basix.COM Message-ID: <0097DD25.5A9D5D60.21510@Data.Basix.COM> Subject: Rerouting -Digest postings I run the LD-List@East.Pima.EDU which also has an LD-List-Digest. Recently a couple -Digest subscribers posted messages directly to the address of LD-List-Digest@East.Pima.EDU, and these were distributed only to the subscribers of the -Digest list (as far as I can tell). Is there anything specific I can do to avoid this problem? My first inclination is to set up an alias, pointing LD-List-Digest@East.Pima.EDU to LD-List@East.Pima.EDU, but I'm not sure if this would mess up the construction of the Digest from the "normal" postings. Any thoughts? TIA, Ray ----- Ray Harwood | Data Basix | DEC Pro Networking Editor Voice: (602)721-1988 | PO Box 18324 | "Internet Resource Guide" FAX: (602)721-7240 | Tucson, AZ 85731 | Internet training & consulting RHarwood@Data.Basix.COM | Info@Data.Basix.COM | DEC small-system management ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 02 May 1994 13:39:42 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 02 May 1994 13:38:10 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097DD48.F504A1BA.15@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Rerouting -Digest postings "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" writes: > >I run the LD-List@East.Pima.EDU which also has an LD-List-Digest. Recently a >couple -Digest subscribers posted messages directly to the address of >LD-List-Digest@East.Pima.EDU, and these were distributed only to the >subscribers of the -Digest list (as far as I can tell). > Correct. >Is there anything specific I can do to avoid this problem? My first inclination >is to set up an alias, pointing LD-List-Digest@East.Pima.EDU to >LD-List@East.Pima.EDU, but I'm not sure if this would mess up the construction >of the Digest from the "normal" postings. Any thoughts? > You are correct---doing that would prevent the digest from getting mailed out properly. Set the list protection to not allow G and W Write access and make sure the digest is sent from the owner's account, or a system user. Any messages sent directly to the -Digest address will be bounced back to the sender. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 02 May 1994 16:53:39 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: mdlcpgs@lhn.gns.cri.nz Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Trouble with MX3.3, no domain name servers, store and forward mail Date: Tue, 3 May 94 09:22:17 +1200 Message-ID: <2q3qvm$4vj@st-james.comp.vuw.ac.nz> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Having some major hassles setting up MX3.3 on a net with no domain name servers. Mail in and out from internet goes through a SunOS gateway which periodically dials an internet site. Anyway to the specifics: 1/ using CMUIP. Should I disable SMTP as in documentation (comment out WK25 and delete logical tcp$smtpsv)??? I did this and mail out caused MX Router to lock up (stuck in LEF state). Mail in call SMTP Server to do same. Both just sat, debug files locked. MCP SHUTDOWN didnt kill them either, had to STOP/ID. Reinstated WK25 and they seemed to work again. 2/ SET SMTP/DEF=gateway-hostname didnt seem to work. Mail off-system (to say LHN.GNS.CRI.NZ) was not routed through the gateway. It was just re-written as LHN.GNS.CRI.NZ and passed to SMTP which of course couldnt find it. Changing DEFINE PATH * SMTP to DEFINE PATH * SMTP/ROUTE= finally has got mail to be delivered off system. Now to have another go at SMTP server for incoming mail...... Phil ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 03 May 1994 11:40:38 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 03 May 1994 11:11:40 EST From: "John Murphy, Library System Mgr" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097DDFD.A8810080.1@hal.hahnemann.edu> Subject: MXSUM and SITE accounting logs Has anyone modified the MXSUM program in the [.CONTRIB] directory to handle reporting on entries in a SITE accounting log? I figured I would check before trying to tackle it myself. VAX Macro is not my first language... B-) Thanks! John ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 03 May 1994 13:21:10 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 03 May 1994 13:17:27 CST From: hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097DE0F.3A854FC0.9@uwwvax.uww.edu> Subject: reset accounting Typing reset local/account apparently causes all instances of LOCAL to reset, I am running four, and futhermore creates four versions of the a new accounting file. In the process it purges the good data. Now I know that I could set version=? to save all copies, but the question is "Is this the way the command is supposed to work ?" Lyle Hunter Computer Center University Wisconsin-Whitewater hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 03 May 1994 13:41:51 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 03 May 1994 13:41:33 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097DE12.98DB4059.5@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: reset accounting hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu writes: > >Typing reset local/account apparently causes all instances of LOCAL >to reset, I am running four, and futhermore creates four versions of >the a new accounting file. In the process it purges the good data. Now I >know that I could set version=? to save all copies, but the question >is "Is this the way the command is supposed to work >?" > Supposed to work? Well, yes. And no. 8-) It does do that, but it shouldn't. I'm trying to think of a good scheme for controlling that. Try having as many as 30 SMTP processes and doing a RESET/ACCOUNTING. 8-) The problem is that a lock is used to notify the agent(s) to start a new accounting file---and all instances of the agents get the message, so they all create a new file. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 03 May 1994 18:46:42 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 03 May 1994 18:41:59 EST From: "Michael L. Bowden" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu CC: michaelb@earlham.edu Message-ID: <0097DE3C.9120BE5A.71@earlham.edu> Subject: Help running MX on a VAX cluster. We are running MX 4.0-1 on a 4 node VAX cluster (VMS 5.5-2). Our current setup is this: VAX 3100/80 -- the cluster server -- MX executibles VAX 4000/200 VAX 3100/30 VAXStation 3540 -- runs MX and houses the MX_FLQ_DIR. All 4 VAXEN run the NETLIB, and SMTP Servers. The VS 3540 runs all the other processes. The problem we are having is that the VS 3540 may go down or need to be rebooted. Since this machine houses the MX_FLQ_DIR, no one on the other VAXEN will be able to send network mail nor receive network mail. It is important that the VS 3540 house the MX_FLQ_DIR on it own disk -- we have been working to improve cluster performance. Is it possible to set the MX_FLQ_DIR to two locations? DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC MX_FLQ_DIR - TIAN$DKA0:[MX040.QUEUE],$1$DKA0:[MX040.QUEUE] Can someone suggest some other alternatives? Michael L. Bowden Earlham College michaelb@earlham.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 03 May 1994 19:48:09 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 04 May 1994 10:44:09 +1000 From: Powell HEUER Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: powell@syd.dwt.csiro.au Message-ID: <0097DEC2.FA9FAFE0.655@syd.dwt.CSIRO.AU> Subject: RE: Help running MX on a VAX cluster. "Michael L. Bowden" wrote: >We are running MX 4.0-1 on a 4 node VAX cluster (VMS 5.5-2) >.... > The problem we are having is that the VS 3540 may go down or need >to be rebooted. Since this machine houses the MX_FLQ_DIR, no one on the other >VAXEN will be able to send network mail nor receive network mail. It is >important that the VS 3540 house the MX_FLQ_DIR on it own disk -- we have been >working to improve cluster performance. > >Can someone suggest some other alternatives? I don't know about the possibility of making MX_FLQ_DIR a search list, but do you have any DSSI disks on the VAX4000 and VS3540? Is using a dual ported DSSI disk shared between these systems an option? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Powell Heuer E-Mail: P.Heuer@syd.dwt.csiro.au CSIRO Division of Wool Technology Phone : +61 2 809 9444 PO Box 7 Fax : +61 2 809 9476 Ryde NSW 2112 AUSTRALIA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 03 May 1994 19:57:57 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 03 May 1994 17:54:12 PDT From: Virtual Bill Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097DE35.E443F180.5806@gtewd> Subject: Internet Mail Numbers Is there a way of keeping track of how much internet mail an individual is receiving? I've checked through the MX Management Guide without success. I'm running MX V3.2, UCX V2.0 and OpenVMS V5.5-2 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 03 May 1994 20:09:28 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com (Dan Wing) Subject: Re: Internet Mail Numbers Date: 4 May 1994 00:56:24 GMT Message-ID: <2q6rro$qd3@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0097DE35.E443F180.5806@gtewd>, Virtual Bill writes: > Is there a way of keeping track of how much internet mail an > individual is receiving? I've checked through the MX Management > Guide without success. > > I'm running MX V3.2, UCX V2.0 and OpenVMS V5.5-2 MX's accounting function does a good job of this; it is described in one of the manuals... -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 04 May 1994 00:49:12 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: Help running MX on a VAX cluster. Date: 4 May 1994 05:40:28 GMT Message-ID: <2q7cgc$jiv@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0097DE3C.9120BE5A.71@earlham.edu>, "Michael L. Bowden" writes: =All 4 VAXEN run the NETLIB, and SMTP Servers. The VS 3540 runs all the other =processes. The problem we are having is that the VS 3540 may go down or need =to be rebooted. Since this machine houses the MX_FLQ_DIR, no one on the other =VAXEN will be able to send network mail nor receive network mail. It is =important that the VS 3540 house the MX_FLQ_DIR on it own disk -- we have been =working to improve cluster performance. Is it possible to set the MX_FLQ_DIR =to two locations? Let all but the VAX that runs everything route everything to the VAX that runs everything. Let each have its own queue directory. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 04 May 1994 11:20:48 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 04 May 1994 11:16:50 EST From: "Michael L. Bowden" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: "n::\"MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU\""@earlham.edu CC: michaelb@earlham.edu Message-ID: <0097DEC7.8BDD7C0E.248@earlham.edu> Subject: Help defineing a rewrite rule. When we were using PMDF, we created a system logical (N::) that we would use instead of IN%. When we installed MX, the transition was seamless. We redefined N:: to be MX%. But now we need to rewrite some of the addresses. Here is a example: n::\"lala@earlham.edu\"@earlham.edu --> n::"lala@earlham.edu" "HE::MICHAELB"@earlham.edu --> he::michaelb --> n::"michaelb@earlham.edu" These forms are created when a user uses Nupop or Eudora and replies to a VMS MAIL message (with the decnet address attached). Is this possible? Michael Earlham College michaelb@earlham.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 04 May 1994 14:49:29 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: bill@lsl.co.uk Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: MX returned mail interface Message-ID: <1994May4.180739.4419@lsl.co.uk> Date: 4 May 94 18:07:39 +0100 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU All our incoming mail arrives over an X25 link from our Internet router site, using NIFTP implemented in the famous Coloured Book Software (CBS). This feeds the mail into VMS VAX MAIL, our primary mail system. We use MX to route and deliver mail to internal UNIX systems, and to external systems (using SITE_DELIVER to invoke CBS trnasfers over X25). Occasionally, MX cannot deliver internal mail for whatever reason, and attempts to return the mail whence it came. Here we have a problem: The mail needs to be returned to <"CBS%UK.AC.xxx::nnn"@lsl.co.uk>. MX manages to invoke the CBS mail system, but the CBS mailer believes it is delivering mail for "Postmaster@lsl.co.uk" . The syntax of the last bit is not parseable by the receiving mail system (PP). The failed CBS transfer causes a cascade of further problems - of no concern here. What mechanism does MX use to return the mail to the CBS system? I would like to correct the 'From:' field if I can. Can the local postmaster be alerted every time MX returns mail, so I can clean up the aftermath? Bill James Laser-Scan Ltd, UK bill@lsl.co.uk ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 05 May 1994 08:45:28 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 05 May 1994 09:23:50 EDT From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: WKUVX1.WKU.EDU!mx-list@pubs22.si.com CC: powers@gtewd.mtv.gtegsc.com Message-ID: <0097DF80.ECF69520.201@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: Internet Mail Numbers Virtual Bill asks: > Is there a way of keeping track of how much internet mail an > individual is receiving? I've checked through the MX Management > Guide without success. and Dan Wing replies: >MX's accounting function does a good job of this; it is described in one of >the manuals... I've successfully used the MXSUM program in the [.CONTRIB] directory for this purpose. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 05 May 1994 13:37:32 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 05 May 1994 11:37:33 PDT From: Virtual Bill Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097DF93.9B039980.7715@gtewd> Subject: RE: Internet Mail Numbers I want to thank Hunter, Dan Wing and Brian Tillman on their assistance on my Internet Mail Numbers problem. I don't know how I missed the accounting enable/disable function, but I did, and the MXSUM program works slick. Thanks again. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 05 May 1994 17:48:03 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: bjorndahl@augustana.ab.ca (Sterling G. Bjorndahl) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: A name lookup bottleneck in MX? Message-ID: <1994May5.152034.10590@camrose> Date: 5 May 94 15:20:33 MDT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU We're setting up a small ip net between our MicroVax running CMU 6.6-5a with MX 4.0 and Netware 3.11 running Mercury 1.11 for SMTP. SMTP mail from MX to Mercury takes 5 mininutes minimum, whereas SMTP in the opposite direction is very fast. When I turn on MX_SMTP_DEBUG it appears that the problem is that MX is waiting for the name to be resolved. As far as I can tell I've got CMU's NAMRES set up OK. I'm also running DNS, which responds promptly to interactive lookup requests. I don't know what version it is, but the executables are dated 19-APR-1991. There's no DNS on the Netware server, so the Vax is the only source for name resolving on the network. Here's an example from mx_smtp_log.log which shows the delay. Note the time difference between line 3 and line 4 -- five minutes! Can anyone tell me if there's a way to speed this up? Thanks. 5-MAY-1994 14:26:01.63 Processing queue entry number 2 5-MAY-1994 14:26:02.01 Recipient: , route=CORELLI.AUGUSTANA.AB.CA 5-MAY-1994 14:26:02.02 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name CORELLI.AUGUSTANA.AB.CA 5-MAY-1994 14:31:02.64 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with CORELLI.AUGUSTANA.AB.CA [123.45.67.89] 5-MAY-1994 14:31:02.84 SMTP_SEND: Connected 5-MAY-1994 14:31:03.13 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 220 corelli.augustana.ab.ca Mercury SMTP server ready. 5-MAY-1994 14:31:03.26 SMTP_SEND: Sent: HELO Vivaldi.Augustana.AB.CA 5-MAY-1994 14:31:03.40 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 corelli.augustana.ab.ca Hi there Vivaldi.Augustana.AB.CA, long time no see. 5-MAY-1994 14:31:03.41 SMTP_SEND: Sent: MAIL FROM: 5-MAY-1994 14:31:03.56 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 Sender OK - send RCPTs. 5-MAY-1994 14:31:03.56 SMTP_SEND: Sent: RCPT TO: 5-MAY-1994 14:31:03.90 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 Recipient OK - send RCPT or DATA. 5-MAY-1994 14:31:04.27 SMTP_SEND: Sent: DATA 5-MAY-1994 14:31:04.43 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 354 OK, send data, end with CRLF.CRLF 5-MAY-1994 14:31:04.48 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: by augustana.ab.ca (MX V4.0-1 VAX) id 1; Thu, 05 May 1994 14:25:59 MDT 5-MAY-1994 14:31:04.55 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Date: Thu, 05 May 1994 14:25:57 MDT 5-MAY-1994 14:31:04.67 SMTP_SEND: Sent: From: "Sterling G. Bjorndahl" 5-MAY-1994 14:31:04.79 SMTP_SEND: Sent: To: bjors@CORELLI.AUGUSTANA.AB.CA 5-MAY-1994 14:31:05.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Message-ID: <0097DFAB.21962A00.1@augustana.ab.ca> 5-MAY-1994 14:31:05.05 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Subject: smtp test again 5-MAY-1994 14:31:05.14 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 5-MAY-1994 14:31:05.41 SMTP_SEND: Sent: test 5-MAY-1994 14:31:05.51 SMTP_SEND: Sent: . 5-MAY-1994 14:31:05.51 SMTP_SEND: will wait 00:10:30.00 for reply. 5-MAY-1994 14:31:05.55 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 Data received OK. 5-MAY-1994 14:31:05.64 SMTP_SEND: Sent: QUIT 5-MAY-1994 14:31:06.06 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 221 corelli.augustana.ab.ca Service closing channel. 5-MAY-1994 14:31:06.41 Recipient status=00000001 for 5-MAY-1994 14:31:07.89 Entry now completely processed, no retries needed. 5-MAY-1994 14:31:08.01 *** End of processing pass *** -- Sterling G. Bjorndahl, bjorndahl@Augustana.AB.CA or bjorndahl@camrose.uucp Augustana University College, Camrose, Alberta, Canada (403) 679-1516 When dealing with computers, a little paranoia is usually appropriate. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 05 May 1994 18:22:15 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 05 May 1994 16:16:29 -0700 From: "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST%WKUVX1.BITNET@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: rharwood@Data.Basix.COM Message-ID: <0097DFBA.9295A1E0.25254@Data.Basix.COM> Subject: MX replies to SEND MAIL with 500, not 502 I've got a dial-up client using a client SMTP/POP program that cannot send mail through MX due to the following very minor problem. The client program evidently uses the SEND FROM command instead of the MAIL FROM command. Since SEND FROM (and SAML FROM and SOML FROM) are indeed optional components of RFC821, MX reports with a code of 500 "syntax error", which to me seemed logical enough. On reading Marshall Rose's "The Internet Message", however, it seems "more correct" to report a code 502 "unimplemented command". My guess is that his client would most likely respond to a 502 with MAIL FROM and continue in that mode, but assumes a fatal error on 500 and just clams up, though we've not tested this theory. What's the chance that on future releases MX could recognize SEND MAIL, SOML MAIL, and SAML MAIL and report a 502 instead? Ray ----- Ray Harwood | Data Basix | DEC Pro Networking Editor Voice: (602)721-1988 | PO Box 18324 | "Internet Resource Guide" FAX: (602)721-7240 | Tucson, AZ 85731 | Internet training & consulting RHarwood@Data.Basix.COM | Info@Data.Basix.COM | DEC small-system management ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 05 May 1994 22:40:07 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: lst@mvx.grc.nia.nih.gov Subject: Connect to network object rejected Message-ID: <1994May6.031526.8102@alw.nih.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 03:15:26 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I've configured MX on two separate clusters. On one it works just great; on the other... Last error: %SYSTEM-F-REJECT, connect to network object rejected when I send to the cluster alias (vax...), but not when I send to the specific node name (vax1...). Why won't mail to the cluster alias go through? Both clusters are running UCX 2.0E and both were configured in exactly the same way (but with different IP addresses and node names). I've installed NETLIB 1.6 and MX 4.01 on both clusters. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 06 May 1994 05:55:06 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 06 May 1994 05:54:56 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E02C.E84AE76D.21@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Connect to network object rejected lst@mvx.grc.nia.nih.gov writes: > >I've configured MX on two separate clusters. On one it works just great; on >the other... > > Last error: %SYSTEM-F-REJECT, connect to network object rejected > >when I send to the cluster alias (vax...), but not when I send to the specific >node name (vax1...). > >Why won't mail to the cluster alias go through? > Do you have any (faulty) MX records defined? Have you used UCX SHOW DEVICE to make sure the MX SMTP Server has port 25 open? For example: >$ ucx show device [...] > Device_socket: bg17 LOCAL REMOTE > Port: 25 0 > Type: STREAM Host: 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 > Service: SMTP > It sounds like either the SMTP Server isn't running or the cluster alias is sending stuff to the wrong system. Can you TELNET to the cluster alias and hit the machine you want? Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 06 May 1994 06:12:36 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 06 May 1994 06:12:12 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E02F.521E0CF4.2@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MX replies to SEND MAIL with 500, not 502 "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" writes: > >I've got a dial-up client using a client SMTP/POP program that cannot send mail >through MX due to the following very minor problem. The client program >evidently uses the SEND FROM command instead of the MAIL FROM command. > Then it's not doing MAIL, according to my reading of RFC821. SEND FROM: The SEND command requires that the mail data be delivered to the user's terminal. If the user is not active (or not accepting terminal messages) on the host a 450 reply may returned to a RCPT command. The mail transaction is successful if the message is delivered the terminal. If it's really sending mail, then why would it use SEND FROM??? >Since SEND FROM (and SAML FROM and SOML FROM) are indeed optional components of >RFC821, MX reports with a code of 500 "syntax error", which to me seemed >logical enough. On reading Marshall Rose's "The Internet Message", however, it >seems "more correct" to report a code 502 "unimplemented command". > Could be, although RFC821 says: 500 Syntax error, command unrecognized which is a true statement. >My guess is that his client would most likely respond to a 502 with MAIL FROM >and continue in that mode, but assumes a fatal error on 500 and just clams up, >though we've not tested this theory. > If it does, then it's seriously broken, IMO, since SEND FROM and MAIL FROM mean completely different things. >What's the chance that on future releases MX could recognize SEND MAIL, SOML >MAIL, and SAML MAIL and report a 502 instead? > I'll add that to the wish list. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 06 May 1994 08:53:52 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: jbasara@vienna.itd.sterling.com (Jim Basara) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Newbie MX question about no DNS Date: 6 May 1994 13:29:50 GMT Message-ID: <2qdgoe$7f0@ssw.vienna.itd.sterling.com> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I recently downloaded MX and am trying to configure it. At our site, the vaxes are NOT running DNS. Instead, I want to forward all of the outgoing mail to a local sun that runs DNS and can handle the outgoing mail. The only reference I saw in the manual about this situation was to SET SMTP/DEFAULT_ROUTER=SUN which I did, but I still get unknown host errors. I also tried adding a /ROUTE=SUN to the * SMTP path also without success. What am I missing??? thanks, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Basara jbasara@vienna.itd.Sterling.COM ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 06 May 1994 10:10:36 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <9405061451.AA01114@nrad-pa.nosc.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 10:55:31 -0500 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: mountain@nrad-pa.nosc.mil (Joseph R. Mountain) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: Newbie MX question about no DNS >I recently downloaded MX and am trying to configure it. At our site, the >vaxes are NOT running DNS. Instead, I want to forward all of the outgoing >mail to a local sun that runs DNS and can handle the outgoing mail. The >only reference I saw in the manual about this situation was to > > SET SMTP/DEFAULT_ROUTER=SUN > >which I did, but I still get unknown host errors. > >I also tried adding a /ROUTE=SUN to the * SMTP path also without >success. > >What am I missing??? > try defining the path to be define path "*" smtp /route="sun_host_name" This works for me. Good luck! --Joe Joseph R. Mountain Senior Systems Engineer NCCOSC RDT&E DIV Det GPS Division Code 312 Warmintser, PA 18974 Telephone: (215) 441-3507 AV 441-3507 Fax: (215) 441-1585 AV 441-1585 Email: mountain@nosc.mil ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 06 May 1994 15:31:02 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: brodie@fps.mcw.edu (Kent C Brodie) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: MX 4.0, decus uucp, and REWRITE rules? Message-ID: <1994May6.133954.817@fps.mcw.edu> Date: 6 May 94 13:39:54 CST To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I'll try this again.... Hi. Does anyone know if there are special re-write rules needed to handle UUCP in MX 4.0...? In order to handle "!" addresses correctly, Matt had given me the following a long time ago: DEFINE REWRITE "<@{route}:{host}!{user}@fps.mcw.edu>" - "<@{route}:{host}!{user}@fps.mcw.edu>" ! i.e., no-op DEFINE REWRITE "<{host}!{user}@fps.mcw.edu>" "<{user}@{host}.UUCP>" ! DEFINE PATH *.UUCP UUCP ...are rules like these obsolete now? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 06 May 1994 19:58:43 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 06 May 1994 21:10:00 CET From: Hans-Joachim Koch Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: sys_hjk@LISSY1.LIF.DE Message-ID: <0097E0AC.BDE1D600.7@LISSY1.LIF.DE> Subject: no rewrite tooks place, why? (2nd try) Hello, I have a small problem with a rewrite rule. We are just setting up our complete routing and we have some temporary problemes. Just in this case we have to rewrite a name with an ip address, because the nameserver is not allowed to know this subnet (don't ask why :-) Thats the rewrite rule, its on top of the list: > DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{U}@BB001.{D}>" "<{U}@[149.233.195.2]>" But no rewrite takes place, why? mx_router_log shows: > 28-APR-1994 13:42:11.97 %PROCESS, Recipient #0: > 28-APR-1994 13:42:11.97 %REWRITE, No rewrite rules matched > 28-APR-1994 13:42:11.97 %FINDPATH, Site-spec expand on bb001.lif.de err=00000000 Before you ask: yes I did a complete reset after the changes. The should be some expert around, who can point to my mistake. I must have missed something. Hunter, are you there???? :-) Thanks, Hans. -- Hans-Joachim Koch, Computer department of Lahmeyer International Lyoner Strasse 22, D-60528 Frankfurt, Germany Phone: +49 (69) 6677-642, Fax: +49 (69) 6677-388, Tx: 413478 li d ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 06 May 1994 21:13:30 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 06 May 1994 21:12:15 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E0AD.0E7779DF.3@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: no rewrite tooks place, why? (2nd try) Hans-Joachim Koch writes: > >Thats the rewrite rule, its on top of the list: >> DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{U}@BB001.{D}>" "<{U}@[149.233.195.2]>" > >But no rewrite takes place, why? mx_router_log shows: >> 28-APR-1994 13:42:11.97 %PROCESS, Recipient #0: >> 28-APR-1994 13:42:11.97 %REWRITE, No rewrite rules matched >> 28-APR-1994 13:42:11.97 %FINDPATH, Site-spec expand on bb001.lif.de > err=00000000 > >Before you ask: yes I did a complete reset after the changes. > >The should be some expert around, who can point to my mistake. I must >have missed something. Hunter, are you there???? :-) > Try changing the case in the rewrite rule to "<{u}@bb001.{d}>". Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 07 May 1994 02:45:05 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: (Martin Egger) Subject: Re: A name lookup bottleneck in MX? Message-ID: <1994May6.065054.16448@aragorn.unibe.ch> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 06:50:54 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <1994May5.152034.10590@camrose>, bjorndahl@augustana.ab.ca (Sterling G. Bjorndahl) writes: >We're setting up a small ip net between our MicroVax running CMU 6.6-5a >with MX 4.0 and Netware 3.11 running Mercury 1.11 for SMTP. SMTP mail >from MX to Mercury takes 5 mininutes minimum, whereas SMTP in the >opposite direction is very fast. When I turn on MX_SMTP_DEBUG it >appears that the problem is that MX is waiting for the name to be >resolved. As far as I can tell I've got CMU's NAMRES set up OK. I'm >also running DNS, which responds promptly to interactive lookup >requests. I don't know what version it is, but the executables are >dated 19-APR-1991. There's no DNS on the Netware server, so the Vax is >the only source for name resolving on the network. We had the same problem here (with NETLIB/TCPware), when one of our primary nameservers hang. I asked Hunter to include a 'MX_DNS_WAIT' switch in one of the next versions of MX. Martin ******************************************************************************* Martin Egger, Ph.D., Computing Services - Head of System/User Support Group University of Bern, Gesellschaftsstrasse 6, CH-3012 Bern, Switzerland Phone: ++41 (0)31 631 38 45, Fax: ++41 (0)31 631 38 65, Telex: 912643 pibe ch RFC: egger@id.unibe.ch, X.400: S=egger;OU=id;O=unibe;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch; ******************************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 08 May 1994 18:46:02 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: hruska@bmcwest.com (Paul Hruksa) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Multiple concurrent mail transfers? Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 13:23:14 +7 Message-ID: To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I am going to be using MX as my mail hub to distribute mail to over 40 of our remote computing sites. I am using a Telebit Dial-up router with a bank of 8 modems that establish a network link on demand, and then drop the link after x minutes of inactivity. My question is this: Is there a way to get MX to transfer mail to more than one site at a time? Optimally I could transfer mail to 8 sites concurrently thus exchanging mail with all of my sites in 5 batches. Any insights you might have on how to set MX to operate in this fasion would be great. Thanks in advance, Paul UUENCODED by Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B] BEGIN--cut here--cut here---- begin 640 personal.sig M#0H]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T] M/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]#0H@4&%U;"!( Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article , hruska@bmcwest.com (Paul Hruksa) writes: =I am going to be using MX as my mail hub to distribute mail to over 40 of our =remote computing sites. I am using a Telebit Dial-up router with a bank of 8 =modems that establish a network link on demand, and then drop the link after x =minutes of inactivity. = =My question is this: Is there a way to get MX to transfer mail to more than =one site at a time? Optimally I could transfer mail to 8 sites concurrently =thus exchanging mail with all of my sites in 5 batches. = =Any insights you might have on how to set MX to operate in this fasion would =be great. Your question is a bit vague, in that it doesn't distinguish between: a) Having multiple SMTP processes running, each of which will handle a different message; and b) Having a single message split up among various SMTP processes. If you meant option a, then yes, there's a way to do it. In MX_DIR:MX_STARTUP_INFO.DAT, add an equals sign and a number after the entry for SMTP. E.g., 004SMTP:*=8 will cause 8 SMTP processes to be created. Thus, if you've got 8 SMTP messages pending, MX could take full advantage of your router. If, on the other hand, you meant option b, then I don't know of any way to get MX to do that (which doesn't necessarily mean there's no way to do it; just that if there is, I don't know of it). Since the agents handle the mail on a per-queue-entry basis, you'd have to force MX to split up a single SMTP queue entry into several, one for each site. I think that doing so would require modifying the MX Router. you'd have to -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 08 May 1994 18:59:18 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sun, 08 May 1994 11:00:13 EDT From: Chris Olive Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: sys_hjk@LISSY1.LIF.DE, olive@sgi.siemens.com Message-ID: <0097E1E9.E3346380.1@sgi.siemens.com> Subject: RE: no rewrite tooks place, why? (2nd try) In article <0097E0AC.BDE1D600.7@LISSY1.LIF.DE>, Hans-Joachim Koch writes: >I have a small problem with a rewrite rule. We are just setting up our >complete routing and we have some temporary problemes. Just in this case >we have to rewrite a name with an ip address, because the nameserver >is not allowed to know this subnet (don't ask why :-) > >Thats the rewrite rule, its on top of the list: >> DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{U}@BB001.{D}>" "<{U}@[149.233.195.2]>" > >But no rewrite takes place, why? mx_router_log shows: >> 28-APR-1994 13:42:11.97 %PROCESS, Recipient #0: >> 28-APR-1994 13:42:11.97 %REWRITE, No rewrite rules matched >> 28-APR-1994 13:42:11.97 %FINDPATH, Site-spec expand on bb001.lif.de > err=00000000 > >Before you ask: yes I did a complete reset after the changes. > >The should be some expert around, who can point to my mistake. I must >have missed something. Hunter, are you there???? :-) Well, I'm not an expert in MX. I'm only a satisifed customer who has been fortunate enough to have solved most of my own MX problems. Since no one else is chiming in, I'll venture a guess... I would think that in this case (no pun intended), case sensitivity wouldn't matter. But perhaps it does. If you defined the rewrite rule using lowercase, I wonder if this wouldn't work. Again, it's just a guess. Maybe someone more knowledgable can chime in and verify or refute this. This is the next thing I would do (i.e. change the case and see what happened then). Chris _______________________________________________________________________________ ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ _ _ ___ /___ | |__ |\ /| |__ |\ | /___ Chris Olive, VMS Systems Consultant ___/ _|_ |___ | Y | |___ | \| ___/ Internet: olive@sgi.siemens.com Medical Systems, Inc. Voice: 708.304.7793 2501 N. Barrington Road. FAX: 708.304.7704 Hoffman Estates, IL 60195 CompuServe: 73740,1636 _______________________________________________________________________________ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 02:07:24 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 09:04:24 +0100 From: Juan Altmayer Pizzorno Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E2A2.DF9BDA77.3@vms.gmd.de> Subject: Re: Multiple concurrent mail transfers? > b) Having a single message split up among various SMTP processes. > >If, on the other hand, you meant option b, then I don't know of any way to get >MX to do that (which doesn't necessarily mean there's no way to do it; just >that if there is, I don't know of it). Since the agents handle the mail on a >per-queue-entry basis, you'd have to force MX to split up a single SMTP queue >entry into several, one for each site. I think that doing so would require >modifying the MX Router. Messages do get split among agents of different types (i.e, if you have PATHs defined so that site A is reachable though, say, DECnet/SMTP and site B through SMTP, and send a mail to joe@A,jim@B then the router will generate an DNSMTP and an SMTP entry), but not among agents of the same type. You'd have to change more than just the router to make it do so, since the message reclaim mechanism (where the main (router) messages are removed) assumes at most one entry per delivery agent type. .. Juan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 05:12:39 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: robbie@winkle.bhpese.oz.au Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: MX default transport causing problems Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 09:59:02 GMT Message-ID: <1994May9.195902.1@winkle.bhpese.oz.au> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Howdy, We're running MX V3.3 (VAX). I think I've uncovered a bug, although maybe it's through incorrect usage. I have MX_VMSMAIL_SHOW_ADDR defined to be "TRUE" and have MX% set as my default transport (via MAIL> SET TRANSPORT MX%). If I use $ MAIL TEST.TXT "MX%""DEBAND::ROBBIE"""/SUBJECT=TEST I get the following message MX rewrote deband::robbie as <"deband::robbie"@winkle.bhpese.oz.au> and the message is delivered correctly. If I simply use $ MAIL TEST.TXT DEBAND::ROBBIE/SUBJECT=TEST I get the following message MX rewrote ROBBIE as I like having MX% as my default transport as I can automatically make use of automatic signature inclusion and alias lookups but this is making it impossible due to the number of mail distribution files we use for software support groups. If more information is required about our configuration, I'll post it (I'm hoping this is a widely reproducible problem ;>). Please tell me that it has been fixed in V4.0. That will give me the excuse to install it. aTdHvAaNnKcSe -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rob Spencer, BHP Information Technology | Sorry, but my .sig Newcastle, Australia Voice: +61 49 40 1685 | is on .sig leave! Bits: robbie@winkle.bhpese.oz.au | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 06:06:30 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 06:06:20 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E289.FF8DB365.16@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MX default transport causing problems robbie@winkle.bhpese.oz.au writes: > > We're running MX V3.3 (VAX). I think I've uncovered a bug, although >maybe it's through incorrect usage. > Well, how about "it's not working the way you thought it would"? ;-) > I have MX_VMSMAIL_SHOW_ADDR defined to be "TRUE" and have MX% set >as my default transport (via MAIL> SET TRANSPORT MX%). If I use > > $ MAIL TEST.TXT "MX%""DEBAND::ROBBIE"""/SUBJECT=TEST > >I get the following message > > MX rewrote deband::robbie as <"deband::robbie"@winkle.bhpese.oz.au> > >and the message is delivered correctly. If I simply use > > $ MAIL TEST.TXT DEBAND::ROBBIE/SUBJECT=TEST > >I get the following message > > MX rewrote ROBBIE as > That's because VMS Mail is stripping off the node name and passing only ROBBIE to MX. That's a side effect of the parsing done when SET TRANSPORT is used. In the first case, the address gets passed to MX intact because it had the quotes around it. > If more information is required about our configuration, I'll post >it (I'm hoping this is a widely reproducible problem ;>). Please tell >me that it has been fixed in V4.0. That will give me the excuse to >install it. > The fact that V4.0-1 is the only one I'm running and can test should be reason enough. That and the tremendous performance gained by the new file. In any case, this isn't fixed in V4.0 because it's not MX that's causing the problem---it's VMS Mail. The following debug info from MX_MAILSHR shows that that's what it's getting: MAIL> send To: alpha::goathunter [...] %MXDBG, address from VMS Mail is GOATHUNTER %MXDBG, checking for MX alias %MXDBG, MX_ALIAS_LOOKUP status = 000182B2 MX rewrote GOATHUNTER as %MXDBG, MX address is Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 09:09:29 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 12:15:12 EDT From: "Andy Harper, KCL Systems Manager" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097E2BD.86D03F40.852@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk> Subject: Untranslatable error code in MX queue ? I have a lot of messages in the MX queue (for outgoing SMTP) which have been retrying for a long time and have a `last error' of: %NONAME-E-NOMSG, Message number 08638162 I can't find any translation for this error number in any of the normal places and would be grateful if someone could give me a pointer to where it originates and what it means. Current Setup is: MX 4.0-1, NETLIB 1.6, CMU 6.6-5A, VMS 5.5-2H4 As far as I can tell, no special error message files exist for MX, NETLIB or CMU - at least, none that you can SET MESSAGE to.. Thanks, Andy Harper Kings College London ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 10:06:58 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 11:01:47 EDT From: Mighty Firebreather Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: udaa055@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk Message-ID: <0097E2B3.45D63A80.8999@nscvax.princeton.edu> Subject: RE: Untranslatable error code in MX queue ? "Andy Harper, KCL Systems Manager" writes: >I have a lot of messages in the MX queue (for outgoing SMTP) which have been >retrying for a long time and have a `last error' of: > > %NONAME-E-NOMSG, Message number 08638162 > >I can't find any translation for this error number in any of the normal places >and would be grateful if someone could give me a pointer to where it originates >and what it means. > >Current Setup is: > MX 4.0-1, NETLIB 1.6, CMU 6.6-5A, VMS 5.5-2H4 > >As far as I can tell, no special error message files exist for MX, NETLIB or >CMU - at least, none that you can SET MESSAGE to.. > FILE_NAME = "SYS$COMMON:[SYSMSG]NETERROR.EXE;1" %IPACP-E-DSINCOMP, Domain service: received incomplete domain server reply I have a little .COM file that I use to solve these annoying little problems: $! SEARCH_MESS.COM $! $ MSG = "%X"+"''P1' $LOOP: $ FILE_NAME=F$SEARCH("SYS$MESSAGE:*.EXE",) $ IF FILE_NAME .EQS. "" THEN EXIT $ SET MESSAGE 'FILE_NAME' $ TEXT = F$MESSAGE(MSG) $ IF F$EXTRACT(0, 7, TEXT) .EQS. "%NONAME" THEN GOTO LOOP $ SHOW SYMBOL FILE_NAME $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT TEXT $ GOTO LOOP -- ************************************************************************* * Here, there be dragons! * * dragon@nscvax.princeton.edu * * * * I'm job hunting. Any offers or leads will be appreciated. * * Thanks! * * Richard B. Gilbert * ************************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 11:52:53 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 16:18:43 EDT From: "Andy Harper, KCL Systems Manager" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: dragon@nscvax.princeton.edu CC: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu, udaa055@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk Message-ID: <0097E2DF.8C33D2E0.89@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Untranslatable error code in MX queue ? Richard Gilbert writes (in response to my enquiry)... >>I have a lot of messages in the MX queue (for outgoing SMTP) which have been >>retrying for a long time and have a `last error' of: >> >> %NONAME-E-NOMSG, Message number 08638162 >> >>I can't find any translation for this error number in any of the normal places >>and would be grateful if someone could give me a pointer to where it originates >>and what it means. > > FILE_NAME = "SYS$COMMON:[SYSMSG]NETERROR.EXE;1" >%IPACP-E-DSINCOMP, Domain service: received incomplete domain server reply Thanks for the reply. That solves my problem (hung CMU IP Name resolver on my mail node!). Curiously, I don't have a NETERROR.EXE anywhere ... but that's another (non MX-related() problem. Regards, Andy Harper Kings College London ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 13:10:14 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 13:04:15 EDT From: Chris Olive Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: sys_hjk@LISSY1.LIF.DE CC: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu, olive@sgi.siemens.com Message-ID: <0097E2C4.61483AA0.4@sgi.siemens.com> Subject: RE: no rewrite tooks place, why? (2nd try) In article <0097E2BB.D56C10E0.100@LISSY1.LIF.DE>, Hans-Joachim Koch writes: >> ...case (no pun intended), case sensitivity >> wouldn't matter. But perhaps it does. If you defined the rewrite rule using >> lowercase, I wonder if this wouldn't work. > >Thanks for your mail. I tried already to add a second rewrite rule with >lowercase. MX refused that and told me that this rule already exists... This sort of reminds me of UCX which reads host names in the host name table with case sensitivity, but during the SET HOST process treats upper case and lower case alike. So if you trying to enter a lower case host name when one of the same value in upper case exists, UCX won't let you. To achieve the lowercase setting, I believe you're going to have to REMOVE the rewrite rule under consideration here, and add it back quoted in lower case. I'm reposting my response here back to the MX-List so that others may scrutinize this reply. I still think a lower case entry may be the answer here. Chris _______________________________________________________________________________ ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ _ _ ___ /___ | |__ |\ /| |__ |\ | /___ Chris Olive, VMS Systems Consultant ___/ _|_ |___ | Y | |___ | \| ___/ Internet: olive@sgi.siemens.com Medical Systems, Inc. Voice: 708.304.7793 2501 N. Barrington Road. FAX: 708.304.7704 Hoffman Estates, IL 60195 CompuServe: 73740,1636 _______________________________________________________________________________ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 05:10:33 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 14:36:07 -0305 From: SAEED KHADEMI Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097E39A.61220FC0.236@IREARN.BITNET> Subject: Question Dear friends, 1) I have gotten MX_REV1_UPGRADE040 package. After running it, file MX_REV1_UPGRADE040_ZIP.MTFU has been made. Now I can't unpack this file, it is not a zip file. Would someone tell me what should I do? 2) Wolud someone send me information regarding ARPANET_ACCESS and INTERNET_ACCESS identifiers? I have add them to right database, but I don't know how should I introduce them using SET ACL. Many thanks in advance. Regards, Saeed. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 05:15:47 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: sharpe@tol-ed.com (Rick Sharpe) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Problem with 4.0 & UUCP Message-ID: <1994May9.124322.6191@tol-ed.com> Date: 9 May 94 12:43:21 EDT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I'm having a problem with MX v4.0 and DECUS UUCP. Whenever a message is sent that is supposed to go out uucp the uucp agent locks up, the only thing that will stop it is a stop/id. The dubug log shows: 9-MAY-1994 12:17:49.60 Processing queue entry number 1386. 9-MAY-1994 12:17:50.79 DELIVER: Delivering to "mark@laplante.UUCP" 9-MAY-1994 12:17:51.13 DELIVER_FILE: Status=00000001 spawning subprocess. 9-MAY-1994 12:17:51.15 DELIVER_FILE: Command: MAIL/PROTOCOL=UUCP_MAILSHR MX_UUCP_43A00446.TMP;1 "mark@laplante.UUCP" 9-MAY-1994 12:17:51.33 DELIVER_FILE: Subprocess says: SET PROCESS/PRIVILEGE=(NOALL,DETACH,BYPASS,SYSPRV,TMPMBX,NETMBX,EXQUOTA) 9-MAY-1994 12:17:51.52 DELIVER_FILE: Subprocess says: MAIL/PROTOCOL=UUCP_MAILSHR MX_UUCP_43A00446.TMP;1 "mark@laplante.UUCP" Can anyone out there give me any ideas what might be happening? Thanks, Rick Sharpe sharpe@tol-ed.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 07:10:35 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 07:10:24 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E35C.1CFE1A39.17@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Problem with 4.0 & UUCP sharpe@tol-ed.com (Rick Sharpe) writes: > >I'm having a problem with MX v4.0 and DECUS UUCP. Whenever a message is sent >that is supposed to go out uucp the uucp agent locks up, the only thing that >will stop it is a stop/id. The dubug log shows: [...] >Can anyone out there give me any ideas what might be happening? Thanks, > My guess is that you're seeing the following problem, which is documented in the release notes. 5.3 DECUS UUCP UUCP_MAILSHR Bug Binary files sent through MX to DECUS UUCP can cause the MX->uucp process to go into a compute-bound infinite loop. This is a bug in the DECUS UUCP UUCP_ MAILSHR's handling of the temporary file created by MX. Attempts to SHUTDOWN the MX uucp intfc will fail; you must use STOP/ID to kill the process, CANCEL the message, then restart the UUCP agent. According to the DECUS UUCP developers, this will be fixed in the next release of DECUS UUCP. Though the phrase "binary files" is used, this can happen with the right kind of text file too. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 08:36:36 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 09:32:41 EDT From: Mighty Firebreather Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: udaa055@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk Message-ID: <0097E36F.FD9FEAA0.9162@nscvax.princeton.edu> Subject: RE: Untranslatable error code in MX queue ? "Andy Harper, KCL Systems Manager" writes: >Richard Gilbert writes (in response to my enquiry)... > >>>I have a lot of messages in the MX queue (for outgoing SMTP) which have been >>>retrying for a long time and have a `last error' of: >>> >>> %NONAME-E-NOMSG, Message number 08638162 >>> >>>I can't find any translation for this error number in any of the normal places >>>and would be grateful if someone could give me a pointer to where it originates >>>and what it means. >> >> FILE_NAME = "SYS$COMMON:[SYSMSG]NETERROR.EXE;1" >>%IPACP-E-DSINCOMP, Domain service: received incomplete domain server reply > > >Thanks for the reply. That solves my problem (hung CMU IP Name resolver on my >mail node!). Curiously, I don't have a NETERROR.EXE anywhere ... but that's >another (non MX-related() problem. > Check your SYS$LIBRARY for NETERROR.*. There's an excellent chance that you have NETERROR.MSG, NETERROR.OBJ, and NETERROR.REQ if you ever installed CMU-etc. I believe that you can make NETERROR.OBJ from NETERROR.MSG and NETERROR.EXE from NETERROR.OBJ. I don't recall, at this point, whether the .EXE was built as part of a CMU installation or upgrade, or whether I had to build mine by hand. -- ************************************************************************* * Here, there be dragons! * * dragon@nscvax.princeton.edu * * * * I'm job hunting. Any offers or leads will be appreciated. * * Thanks! * * Richard B. Gilbert * ************************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 13:09:54 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu Subject: RE: Untranslatable error code in MX queue ? Date: 10 May 1994 17:54:35 GMT Message-ID: <2qohor$d9o@news.mic.ucla.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0097E36F.FD9FEAA0.9162@nscvax.princeton.edu>, Mighty Firebreather writes: [...discussion about NETERROR.*...] > Check your SYS$LIBRARY for NETERROR.*. There's an excellent chance >that you have NETERROR.MSG, NETERROR.OBJ, and NETERROR.REQ if you ever >installed CMU-etc. I have recently installed CMU from the savesets (i.e., "the usual way"), and there ain't no NETERROR.* anywhere on my disk. How can I go about building it? John Price * * * * price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu Where there is no solution, there is no problem. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 14:09:40 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 15:05:24 EDT From: Mighty Firebreather Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu Message-ID: <0097E39E.78C4A440.9229@nscvax.princeton.edu> Subject: RE: Untranslatable error code in MX queue ? price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu writes: >In article <0097E36F.FD9FEAA0.9162@nscvax.princeton.edu>, Mighty Firebreather writes: > > [...discussion about NETERROR.*...] > >> Check your SYS$LIBRARY for NETERROR.*. There's an excellent chance >>that you have NETERROR.MSG, NETERROR.OBJ, and NETERROR.REQ if you ever >>installed CMU-etc. > >I have recently installed CMU from the savesets (i.e., "the usual >way"), and there ain't no NETERROR.* anywhere on my disk. How can I >go about building it? > Suggest you take this question to the CMU-etc mailing list: . To subscribe to the list, use . What I have, I have had for years. My NETERROR.MSG and NETERROR.REQ are both dated 10-AUG-1987!! This means that I probably acquired them when I installed CMU-TEK-TCPIP V6.3! If you elected NOT to install sources you may not have gotten these files. I could make mine available but, given their great age, it is probably better if you get something more current. -- ************************************************************************* * Here, there be dragons! * * dragon@nscvax.princeton.edu * * * * I'm job hunting. Any offers or leads will be appreciated. * * Thanks! * * Richard B. Gilbert * ************************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 17:36:44 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 18:30:07 CST From: Ian Vaz Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097E3BB.114C1F60.21@mars.senecac.on.ca> Subject: MX<-->Eudora questions. Hi, Many MX users use the eudora ms-windows pop client. I am trying to achieve this feat as well. I have weudora.exe and winsock.dll. However, when I fire up eudora, it says: "PCTCPAPI.DLL" cannot be found. Okay, well, so I'm lost. When I copy winsock.dll to pctcpapi.dll, I get all the eudora goodies except that the network does not accept any of eudora's mail. I am running Beame and Whiteside's TCP/IP offering on my P.C. Well, I've dug myself deep enough by now. Do I need to setup winsock.dll somewhere else? What are my options? What does one do to setup eudora? Help. I got absolutely no installation docs other than a readme file that mentioned acquiring winsock.dll and setting up a group item for eudora in windows, giving it eudora's default environment. Nothing else. BTW, I have no problem using Beame and Whiteside's pop client. Yes, I'd like to get Eudora working just for the heck of it. This is a level 4 priority query where 4 is the lowest priority. Thanks for any replies. Regards, Ian ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 22:37:43 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 23:30:53 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0097E3E5.15D7F700.11033@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: MX<-->Eudora questions. > Many MX users use the eudora ms-windows pop client. Since you use this as a premise to post to the MX list, I'm obliged to point out that MX and Eudora are entirely separate and don't interact in any way (unless Eudora happens to be configured to send outgoing mail to the VAX first). > I have weudora.exe and winsock.dll. However, when I fire up eudora, it > says: "PCTCPAPI.DLL" cannot be found. What TCP/IP transport are you using on the PC? "winsock" gives me a clue that you are using a Wollongong product. However, "PCTCPAPI" gives me a clue that Eudora is looking for the API (Application Program Interface) for PC/TCP (a product of FTP Software). Maybe the AM shift can provide more details. - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 02:58:36 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 12:10:53 -0305 From: SAEED KHADEMI Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097E44F.41775D00.2625@IREARN.BITNET> Subject: LISTSERV QUESTION Dear Friends, I have a question about mailing lists. My problem is as follows : When someone sends a message to one of lists, some of messages will return due to problem of routing in outside of our node. Now I want to replace their address with this form of addressing "user%address@mail-gateway", but I can't. I have tried to remove them from list and add them again using REMOVE and ADD commands, but listserv says that you can't use this command becuase of you haven't privilege. I have tried MLFAQE but the result is the same. I am ower of list and I have all system privilege. Would someone help me? Many thanks in advance. Regards, Saeed. +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | Saeed Khademi | E-mail : SAEED@IREARN.BITNET | | Computer Department | Phone : +9821 243860 | | Institute for studies in | P.O.Box: 19395-1795 | | theoretical Physics and | Fax : +9821 8014003 | | Mathematics ( IPM ) | Telex : +9821 214758 | | Iran/Tehran | | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 03:13:40 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 16:21:46 +0900 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: tim@twics.com (Tim Burress) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: Problem with 4.0 & UUCP >I'm having a problem with MX v4.0 and DECUS UUCP. Whenever a message is sent >that is supposed to go out uucp the uucp agent locks up, the only thing that >will stop it is a stop/id... This sounds like the UUCP_MAILSHR bug, but when we were having the problem here, the UUCP debug log showed an infinite loop of access violations (we knew when it was dying because the debug log began growing like mad). The main culprits here were people using NeXTmail systems and/or Japanese in headers. We solved the problem by writing a SITE handler that would mimic the action of the UUCP delivery software, taking the files from MX and dropping them into the UUCP_SPOOL directory with the appropriate fields filled in. Then we changed CONFIG.MCP so that outgoing mail to our UUCP sites would use the SITE mechanism instead of UUCP. Works like a charm, but relies on specifics of our network configuration, which has a central hub connected to the Internet, and several other systems connecting by UUCP to pick up their mail. If you think it would help, I'd be happy to send you the code. No guarantees, though! Tim ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 03:39:12 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 10:36:48 EDT From: "Bj|rn Skeppner MTA/F, Huddinge Hosp" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E442.1CFFA700.2@bimd01.hs.sll.se> Subject: Eudora with MX Hi! Here at my site (a VAX3800) I'm useing CMU-IP together with MX and it works SUPERB.... almost! We have some Macintosh that are useing Eudora. My problem is that when they are useing Eudora and attach document (eq Wp-document or TIF-files), Eudora finaly hangs and say that it has lost connection with the SMTP-server. (The problem seems to be more common when the attached document are big) If I use another VAX as the SMTP-server, on witch I use Multinet, it works. I have tried to increase the priority-level on the MX_SMTP-process with no results. CMUIP: 6.6-5 MX : 4.0-1 VMS : 5.5-2 Any clue? (second try...) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- H H SSSS Bj|rn Skeppner /SM0OCV/ H H S MTA/F69 HHHHHH SSSS Huddinge Hospital H H S S-141 86 HUDDINGE H H SSSS SWEDEN bjsk@bimd01.hs.sll.se Huddinge University Hospital Phone: +46-8-746 56 03 Clinical Engineering Dep. Fax : +46-8-746 56 30 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 06:23:21 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 06:22:40 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E41E.9C3901CF.25@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Eudora with MX "Bj|rn Skeppner MTA/F, Huddinge Hosp" writes: > >My problem is that when they are useing Eudora and attach >document (eq Wp-document or TIF-files), Eudora finaly hangs >and say that it has lost connection with the SMTP-server. >(The problem seems to be more common when the attached document >are big) > >If I use another VAX as the SMTP-server, on witch I use Multinet, >it works. >I have tried to increase the priority-level on the MX_SMTP-process >with no results. > Try enabling debugging with DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC MX_SMTP_SERVER_DEBUG TRUE and see what the log file says in MX_SMTP_DIR:. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 06:24:48 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 06:23:50 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E41E.C5DF1FF0.1@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: LISTSERV QUESTION SAEED KHADEMI writes: > >Dear Friends, > I have a question about mailing lists. My problem is as follows : >When someone sends a message to one of lists, some of messages will return >due to problem of routing in outside of our node. Now I want to replace >their address with this form of addressing "user%address@mail-gateway", >but I can't. I have tried to remove them from list and add them again >using REMOVE and ADD commands, but listserv says that you can't use this >command becuase of you haven't privilege. You need to make sure that you are listed as the owner and that the case is correct: saeed@IREARN.BITNET. Also, it's better (easier) to send ADD and REMOVE commands to the -request address instead of LISTSERV. You can them omit the list name. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 19:01:02 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 18:57:13 -0600 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: reef@xenon.che.ilstu.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: MX-LIST Digest V94 #88 >What TCP/IP transport are you using on the PC? "winsock" gives me a clue >that you are using a Wollongong product. However, "PCTCPAPI" gives me a >clue that Eudora is looking for the API (Application Program Interface) for >PC/TCP (a product of FTP Software). > >Maybe the AM shift can provide more details. > > - Jonathan > WINSOCK is a Windows PC product, not a Wollengong product. For the life of me I can't figure out why setting up Eudora in Windows is so complex while on a Mac it is so simple. Both should interact well with MX. I use only Eudora on a Mac here, but it runs perfectly with MX and Multinet. Best, Reef ************************************************************************* Philip D. (Reef) Morse II Internet address: reef@xenon.che.ilstu.edu Department of Chemistry Telephone (voice and voice mail):(309) 438-5595 Illinois State University Telephone (FAX): (309) 438-5538 Normal, IL 61761 Telephone (answering machine):(309) 829-9257 USA ************************************************************************** ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 20:09:09 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 18:05:18 -0700 From: "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: rharwood@Data.Basix.COM Message-ID: <0097E480.C4AB0C40.30696@Data.Basix.COM> Subject: Re: MX-LIST Digest V94 #88 > >What TCP/IP transport are you using on the PC? "winsock" gives me a clue > >that you are using a Wollongong product. However, "PCTCPAPI" gives me a > >clue that Eudora is looking for the API (Application Program Interface) for > >PC/TCP (a product of FTP Software). > WINSOCK is a Windows PC product, not a Wollengong product. For the life of > me I can't figure out why setting up Eudora in Windows is so complex while > on a Mac it is so simple. Both should interact well with MX. I use only > Eudora on a Mac here, but it runs perfectly with MX and Multinet. It's not an MX problem, it's a "too many standards on the PC" problem. Eudora on the Mac just interfaces to MacTCP... what else is there? Once you get the Eudora/PC interface fixed, MX won't be a problem. Ray ----- Ray Harwood | Data Basix | DEC Pro Networking Editor Voice: (602)721-1988 | PO Box 18324 | "Internet Resource Guide" FAX: (602)721-7240 | Tucson, AZ 85731 | Internet training & consulting RHarwood@Data.Basix.COM | Info@Data.Basix.COM | DEC small-system management ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 23:17:26 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: LISTSERV QUESTION Date: 12 May 1994 03:49:09 GMT Message-ID: <2qs8vl$q4u@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0097E44F.41775D00.2625@IREARN.BITNET>, SAEED KHADEMI writes: = I have a question about mailing lists. My problem is as follows : =When someone sends a message to one of lists, some of messages will return =due to problem of routing in outside of our node. Now I want to replace =their address with this form of addressing "user%address@mail-gateway", =but I can't. I have tried to remove them from list and add them again =using REMOVE and ADD commands, but listserv says that you can't use this =command becuase of you haven't privilege. = I have tried MLFAQE but the result is the same. I am ower of list and =I have all system privilege. Make sure that in the definition of the list, the case of your name matches the case the listserv is seeing when you send it the commands. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 05:33:27 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Dead agent logic... Message-ID: <1994May12.000622.11947@kcvax1> From: oursler@kenyon.edu (Miles) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: 12 May 94 00:06:22 -0500 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hullo, I think I need another viewpoint here. So to borrow on the brainpower-o'-the-net... Background: On a couple of occasions I've had agents die off for whatever reasons. I used to run the handy "shut-it-down-squish-the-queue-start-it-up" command procedure each night. It kept the queue clean and made certain everything got restarted at least once a day. But since I switched to 4.0, I don't need to munch through the queue file so I was just restarting the agents once a night. Anyway... there were a couple of times when things have died off early in the morning and a day went by before stuff came back. Made some folks real unhappy. (major e-mail junkies) So I whipped up a command procedure to chug through the system every 15 minutes and if an agent was down, restart it. Sounds like a good idea, huh? Well, the trouble is that ever since I started running the procedure, I am getting dozens of messages letting me know that agents are down. Usually a couple a day. I can't believe that I'm really having this many agents die. We'd never have gotten anything done. So my question is, where is my logic flawed? I slogged through all the processes MX had and searched for the images executing. Seems reasonable. Worked fine in testing. So what's up? Is there some time when an agent process wouldn't be executing the image and therefore invalidating my test? I can't seem to force it to generate a false positive. It works fine in my tests. If I deliberately stop an agent, it dutifully restarts it. The procedure is appended below. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated... - Miles - ------------------------------- Miles Oursler Manager of Networks and Systems Kenyon College oursler@kenyon.edu ------------------------------- ===================================CUT HERE===================================== $! $! MX Restart $! $! The mailer is so heavily relied upon that we need to check $! to make certain it's up and running all the time. $! $!********************************************************************* $! $! Resubmit the batch $! $ SET NOON $ SET NOVER $ SUBMIT/NOPRINT/USER=MXSYSTEM/QUEUE=MX_BATCH MX_DIR:MX_RESTART - /AFTER="+00:15" $! $! Init some stuff $! $ SMTP_SERVER = "FALSE" $ SMTP = "FALSE" $ FLQ_MANAGER = "FALSE" $ SITE = "FALSE" $ MLF = "FALSE" $ LOCAL = "FALSE" $ ROUTER = "FALSE" $! $ MXSTART := SUBMIT/NOPRINT/USER=MXSYSTEM SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP - /QUEUE=MX_BATCH $! $! Set up context stuff to scan the system $! $ CTX = "" $ TEMP = F$CONTEXT ("PROCESS", CTX, "NODENAME", "KCVAX3", "EQL") $ TEMP = F$CONTEXT ("PROCESS", CTX, "USERNAME", "MXSYSTEM", "EQL") $ TEMP = F$CONTEXT ("PROCESS", CTX, "MODE", "OTHER", "EQL") $! $! Check for agents $! $SYSTEM_SCAN_LOOP: $ PID = F$PID(CTX) $ IF PID .EQS. "" THEN GOTO END $ PIDIMAGE = F$GETJPI(PID,"IMAGNAME") $ PRCNAM = F$GETJPI(PID,"PRCNAM") $! $! Check for SMTP_SERVER agent $! $ IF F$LOCATE("SMTP_SERVER.EXE",PIDIMAGE) .NE. F$LENGTH(PIDIMAGE) $ THEN SMTP_SERVER = "TRUE" $ ENDIF $! $! Check for SMTP agent $! $ IF F$LOCATE("MX_SMTP.EXE",PIDIMAGE) .NE. F$LENGTH(PIDIMAGE) $ THEN SMTP = "TRUE" $ ENDIF $! $! Check for FLQ Manager agent $! $ IF F$LOCATE("MX_FLQ_MGR.EXE",PIDIMAGE) .NE. F$LENGTH(PIDIMAGE) $ THEN FLQ_MANAGER = "TRUE" $ ENDIF $! $! Check for Site agent $! $ IF F$LOCATE("MX_SITE.EXE",PIDIMAGE) .NE. F$LENGTH(PIDIMAGE) $ THEN SITE = "TRUE" $ ENDIF $! $! Check for Local agent $! $ IF F$LOCATE("MX_LOCAL.EXE",PIDIMAGE) .NE. F$LENGTH(PIDIMAGE) $ THEN LOCAL = "TRUE" $ ENDIF $! $! Check for Router agent $! $ IF F$LOCATE("MX_ROUTER.EXE",PIDIMAGE) .NE. F$LENGTH(PIDIMAGE) $ THEN ROUTER = "TRUE" $ ENDIF $! $! Check for MLF agent $! $ IF F$LOCATE("MX_MLF.EXE",PIDIMAGE) .NE. F$LENGTH(PIDIMAGE) $ THEN MLF = "TRUE" $ ENDIF $ GOTO SYSTEM_SCAN_LOOP $ END: $! $! If any agent is dead then restart it and notify $! $ IF .NOT. SMTP_SERVER $ THEN MAIL NL: /NOEDIT /SUBJECT= "SMTP SERVER agent is not active -- restarting..." @MX_DIR:MX_RESTART.DIS $ MXSTART /PARAM="SMTP_SERVER" $ ENDIF $! $ IF .NOT. SMTP $ THEN MAIL NL: /NOEDIT /SUBJECT= "SMTP agent is not active -- restarting..." @MX_DIR:MX_RESTART.DIS $ MXSTART /PARAM="SMTP" $ ENDIF $! $ IF .NOT. ROUTER $ THEN MAIL NL: /NOEDIT /SUBJECT= "ROUTER agent is not active -- restarting..." @MX_DIR:MX_RESTART.DIS $ MXSTART /PARAM="ROUTER" $ ENDIF $! $ IF .NOT. LOCAL $ THEN MAIL NL: /NOEDIT /SUBJECT= "LOCAL agent is not active -- restarting..." @MX_DIR:MX_RESTART.DIS $ MXSTART /PARAM="LOCAL" $ ENDIF $! $ IF .NOT. SITE $ THEN MAIL NL: /NOEDIT /SUBJECT= "SITE agent is not active -- restarting..." @MX_DIR:MX_RESTART.DIS $ MXSTART /PARAM="SITE" $ ENDIF $! $ IF .NOT. MLF $ THEN MAIL NL: /NOEDIT /SUBJECT= "MLF agent is not active -- restarting..." @MX_DIR:MX_RESTART.DIS $ MXSTART /PARAM="MLF" $ ENDIF $! $ IF .NOT. FLQ_MANAGER $ THEN MAIL NL: /NOEDIT /SUBJECT= "FLQ Manager is not active -- restarting..." @MX_DIR:MX_RESTART.DIS $ MXSTART /PARAM="FLQ_MGR" $ ENDIF $ EXIT ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 09:06:23 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <199405121320.AA07866@interlock.jci.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 09:04:58 -0500 (CDT) From: arlen.walker@jci.com (Arlen P. Walker) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: MX-LIST Digest V94 #88 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Forgive me, but I can't resist: > >WINSOCK is a Windows PC product, not a Wollengong product. For the life of >me I can't figure out why setting up Eudora in Windows is so complex while >on a Mac it is so simple. *Everything* is more complex to set up under Windows than on a Mac. Why should Eudora be any different? ;{>} Have Fun, Arlen arlen.walker@jci.com --------------------------------------------------- This mail message contains 100% recycled electrons --------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 09:43:02 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 09:39:24 EST From: koenig@CVAX.IPFW.INDIANA.EDU Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E503.42B3D658.14@CVAX.IPFW.INDIANA.EDU> Subject: RE: Dead agent logic... >From: >Subj: Dead agent logic... >Hullo, > > I think I need another viewpoint here. > So to borrow on the brainpower-o'-the-net... > > Background: > > On a couple of occasions I've had agents die off > for whatever reasons. I used to run the handy > "shut-it-down-squish-the-queue-start-it-up" > command procedure each night. It kept the > queue clean and made certain everything got > restarted at least once a day. [stuff deleted] > So I whipped up a command procedure to chug through > the system every 15 minutes and if an agent was > down, restart it. Sounds like a good idea, huh? Yes, I do something similar here, although I simply make an OPCOM message appear and the human operators are instructed to restart the missing process. This has the advantage that a human will not try a couple of million times to restart some process that continually dies after a few of seconds of execution. (Automated processes can sometimes be really fun like that. ;-) [stuff deleted] > So my question is, where is my logic flawed? I > slogged through all the processes MX had and searched > for the images executing. Seems reasonable. Worked > fine in testing. So what's up? Is there some time > when an agent process wouldn't be executing the > image and therefore invalidating my test? I've never tried your method of examining the executing images. I'm not sure why a given MX agent shouldn't be running its associated .EXE at any given time, though, so your method seems like it should work. The method that I use is to take a list of which MX processes are supposed to be running on each node and verify that a process with that name is actually present on the node in question. If a process name is supposed to show up and doesn't, I alert the operators. If a process with the given name shows up, I just assume that it is happily performing it's work. [stuff deleted] > Any thoughts are greatly appreciated... Hope this helps out. You're welcome to drop me a personal note if you want some more advice. > - Miles - > ------------------------------- > Miles Oursler > Manager of Networks and Systems > Kenyon College > oursler@kenyon.edu > ------------------------------- ---Greg --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Koenig koenig@cvax.ipfw.indiana.edu Systems Programmer koenig@ipfwcvax.bitnet Indiana University - Purdue University koenig@smtplink.ipfw.indiana.edu Fort Wayne, Indiana (219) 481-6031 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 17:16:29 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 18:12:53 EDT From: kamrul@ycvax.york.cuny.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097E54A.FE29C540.9145@ycvax.york.cuny.edu> Subject: help reading this foreign mail Hi One of our users received this mail. Is there anyway we can read this mail by either VMS or MX mailer? I am including part of the mail for your perusal. Thanks in advance. Here's the beginning of it. Jeff --1919972505-748708146-768663610:#9059 Content-Type: APPLICATION/octet-stream; name="abst-2.doc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: QkFBUyBDb25mZXJlbmNlLCBTaGVmZmllbGQsIDgtMTEgQXByaWwgMTk5NCAN Cg0KDQpBQlNUUkFDVFMNCg0KDQpUaGUgY29uZmVyZW5jZSBwcm9ncmFtbWUg YXBwZWFycyBmaXJzdCwgZm9sbG93ZWQgYnkgdGhlIGFic3RyYWN0czoNCg0K LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t [and so on for 3000 lines] ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 23:02:28 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 20:57:40 PDT From: Mike Johnson (415) 594-3530 Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: mcjohnson@wizard.farinon.harris.com Message-ID: <0097E562.03031B40.14750@wizard.farinon.harris.com> Subject: Extracting "uuencode" file from VMS Mail I am not sure this is the correct forum for this questions, but here it goes. I have received a mail message in my VMS mailbox (via MX) that contained a UNIX "uuencode" file. After extracting the message into a file on the VMS system, moving the file to a UNIX system, and then trying to "uudecode" the file, I ran into an error that indicated that the file was "short". Being new at this I am not sure what was going on. I started doing an experiment within our environment that included the following: - Created a file on UNIX (short one). - Did "uuencode" on the file. Created ASCII text file as I expected. - Did "uudecode" on the encoded file. It was converted back correctly. - Copied encoded file to the VMS system via "ftp". - Mailed the transfered file to a UNIX system that would automatically return the message to my VMS account. - Extracted the returned mail message (encoded) to a VMS file. - Copied extracted file to the original UNIX system via NFS. - Did "uudecode" on the file extracted from VMS. Got the file "short" message. I then took the two files (pre and post VMS mail) and did a DUMP on the contents. I found that two (2) items were missing from the file extracted from VMS mail. The items missing were towards the end of the file. I have included the DUMP output below for reference. ------------------------------- "uuencode" file before mailing: 3C492152 3C494126 3D470035 636F645F 74736574 20343436 206E6967 65620012 ..begin 644 test_doc5.G=&AI Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E5C3.9D7FF060.1@bimd01.hs.sll.se> Subject: RE: Extracting "uuencode" file from VMS Mail >I am not sure this is the correct forum for this questions, but here it >goes. > > >I have received a mail message in my VMS mailbox (via MX) that contained a UNIX >"uuencode" file. After extracting the message into a file on the VMS system, >moving the file to a UNIX system, and then trying to "uudecode" the file, I >ran into an error that indicated that the file was "short". Being new at >this I am not sure what was going on. > >I started doing an experiment within our environment that included the >following: > > - Created a file on UNIX (short one). > - Did "uuencode" on the file. Created ASCII text file as > I expected. > - Did "uudecode" on the encoded file. It was converted back > correctly. > - Copied encoded file to the VMS system via "ftp". > - Mailed the transfered file to a UNIX system that would > automatically return the message to my VMS account. > - Extracted the returned mail message (encoded) to a VMS file. > - Copied extracted file to the original UNIX system via NFS. > - Did "uudecode" on the file extracted from VMS. Got the file > "short" message. > > >I then took the two files (pre and post VMS mail) and did a DUMP on the >contents. I found that two (2) items were missing from the file extracted >from VMS mail. The items missing were towards the end of the file. I have >included the DUMP output below for reference.> > >------------------------------- >"uuencode" file before mailing: > > >3C492152 3C494126 3D470035 636F645F 74736574 20343436 206E6967 65620012 ..begin 644 test_doc5.G=&AI 3A495544 222A3055 34253145 222A3057 3C453147 222A3057 3C453127 28412152 R!A('1E 00000000 00000000 FFFF0064 6E650003 00200001 002A4830 3C574943 222A3456 V4*"CIW<0H*... ...end........... 000040 > 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................................ 000060 > 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................................ 000080 > > >--------------------------------------------- >"uudecode" file after mailing and extraction: > > > 3C492152 3C494126 3D470035 636F645F 74736574 20343436 206E6967 65620012 ..begin 644 test_doc5.G=&AI 3A495544 222A3055 34253145 222A3057 3C453147 222A3057 3C453127 28412152 R!A('1E 00000000 00000000 0000FFFF 00646E65 00030000 002A4830 3C574943 222A3456 V4*"CIW<0H*.....end............. 000040 > 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................................ 000060 > 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................................ 000080 > > > >My questions are: > >1) Is there a known problem with receiving and extracting "uuencoded" > files on VMS. > >2) If number 1 is true, is there a known workaround. > >3) If number 1 is not true, what can we do. > > >Thanks for any assistance. Hi I also had that problem -before- I upgraded from MX3.2 to MX4.0 I think I have read that there was a bug on MX3.2 that stripped trailing blanks. If you use MX32, do an upgrade to MX40. -I'm I wrong? Bjorn --------------------------------------------------------------------------- H H SSSS Bj|rn Skeppner /SM0OCV/ H H S MTA/F69 HHHHHH SSSS Huddinge Hospital H H S S-141 86 HUDDINGE H H SSSS SWEDEN bjsk@bimd01.hs.sll.se Huddinge University Hospital Phone: +46-8-746 56 03 Clinical Engineering Dep. Fax : +46-8-746 56 30 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 01:50:39 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com (Dan Wing) Subject: Re: LISTSERV QUESTION Date: 13 May 1994 06:40:13 GMT Message-ID: <2qv7cd$2ru@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0097E44F.41775D00.2625@IREARN.BITNET>, SAEED KHADEMI writes: >Dear Friends, > I have a question about mailing lists. My problem is as follows : >When someone sends a message to one of lists, some of messages will return >due to problem of routing in outside of our node. Now I want to replace >their address with this form of addressing "user%address@mail-gateway", >but I can't. I have tried to remove them from list and add them again >using REMOVE and ADD commands, but listserv says that you can't use this >command becuase of you haven't privilege. > I have tried MLFAQE but the result is the same. I am ower of list and >I have all system privilege. Please post the following to MX-LIST so we can take a look at it and try to solve the problem: The exact commands you used The output from: MCP> SHOW SYSTEM_USERS MCP> SHOW LIST listname The Email address of the user you're trying to remove (as shown in the output from "MCP> REVIEW listname") -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 01:51:04 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com (Dan Wing) Subject: Re: help reading this foreign mail Date: 13 May 1994 06:38:02 GMT Message-ID: <2qv78a$2ru@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0097E54A.FE29C540.9145@ycvax.york.cuny.edu>, kamrul@ycvax.york.cuny.edu writes: >One of our users received this mail. Is there anyway we can read this mail >by either VMS or MX mailer? I am including part of the mail for your perusal. No. MX only decodes stuff with a Content-Type of "APPLICATION/VMS-RMS" that are encoded QUOTED-PRINTABLE or BASE64. It can't handle anything else. -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 03:17:54 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com (Dan Wing) Subject: Re: Extracting "uuencode" file from VMS Mail Date: 13 May 1994 06:44:35 GMT Message-ID: <2qv7kj$2ru@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0097E562.03031B40.14750@wizard.farinon.harris.com>, Mike Johnson (415) 594-3530 writes: >I am not sure this is the correct forum for this questions, but here it >goes. > > >I have received a mail message in my VMS mailbox (via MX) that contained a UNIX >"uuencode" file. After extracting the message into a file on the VMS system, >moving the file to a UNIX system, and then trying to "uudecode" the file, I >ran into an error that indicated that the file was "short". Being new at >this I am not sure what was going on. Why not simply UUDECODE it on the VMS system? There are several different UUDECODErs available (one reason being that there is no standard for UUENCODING on Unix) via anonymous FTP from ftp.spc.edu in [.macro32.savesets]. >I started doing an experiment within our environment that included the >following: [...] >1) Is there a known problem with receiving and extracting "uuencoded" > files on VMS. Nope. >2) If number 1 is true, is there a known workaround. Well, as UUENCODE generates a flat ASCII file, you can easily determine, using MX's debugging, if MX is sending out the proper (un-munged) file, and if MX is receiving the proper (un-munged) file. This will track down the problem to which systems are causing your problem. -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 03:18:05 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com (Dan Wing) Subject: Re: Eudora with MX Date: 13 May 1994 06:57:53 GMT Message-ID: <2qv8dh$2ru@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0097E442.1CFFA700.2@bimd01.hs.sll.se>, "Bj|rn Skeppner MTA/F, Huddinge Hosp" writes: #>Here at my site (a VAX3800) I'm useing CMU-IP together with #>MX and it works SUPERB.... almost! #>We have some Macintosh that are useing Eudora. #>My problem is that when they are useing Eudora and attach #>document (eq Wp-document or TIF-files), Eudora finaly hangs #>and say that it has lost connection with the SMTP-server. #>(The problem seems to be more common when the attached document #>are big) #> #>If I use another VAX as the SMTP-server, on witch I use Multinet, #>it works. #>I have tried to increase the priority-level on the MX_SMTP-process #>with no results. #> #>CMUIP: 6.6-5 #>MX : 4.0-1 #>VMS : 5.5-2 Enable MX debugging to see if that gives any clues. You want to enable debugging for the SMTP Server stuff -- see the MX Management Guide for information on how to do this. Alternatively, if CMU/IP includes TCPDUMP, or if your MultiNet machine is on the same physical wire as your machine with MX (that is, there isn't a bridge or a router between them), you could use a command like: $ MULTINET TCPDUMP/PROMISC/SNAP=1500/HEX HOST ip_address AND PORT 25 Where "ip_address" is the IP address of the system running Eudora. You can use a /OUTPUT=filename qualifier to send the output to a file; this will show where the problem is when trying to connect to the MX system. -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 04:13:41 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: robbie@winkle.bhpese.oz.au Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: RE: MX default transport causing problems Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 07:09:32 GMT Message-ID: <1994May13.170932.1@winkle.bhpese.oz.au> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0097E289.FF8DB365.16@ALPHA.WKU.EDU>, "Hunter Goatley, WKU" writes: > robbie@winkle.bhpese.oz.au writes: (stuff deleted) >> >> I have MX_VMSMAIL_SHOW_ADDR defined to be "TRUE" and have MX% set >>as my default transport (via MAIL> SET TRANSPORT MX%). If I use >> >> $ MAIL TEST.TXT "MX%""DEBAND::ROBBIE"""/SUBJECT=TEST >> >>I get the following message >> >> MX rewrote deband::robbie as <"deband::robbie"@winkle.bhpese.oz.au> >> >>and the message is delivered correctly. If I simply use >> >> $ MAIL TEST.TXT DEBAND::ROBBIE/SUBJECT=TEST >> >>I get the following message >> >> MX rewrote ROBBIE as >> > That's because VMS Mail is stripping off the node name and passing > only ROBBIE to MX. That's a side effect of the parsing done when SET > TRANSPORT is used. In the first case, the address gets passed to MX > intact because it had the quotes around it. > (stuff deleted) > In any case, this isn't fixed in V4.0 because it's not MX > that's causing the problem---it's VMS Mail. The following debug info > from MX_MAILSHR shows that that's what it's getting: > > MAIL> send > To: alpha::goathunter > [...] > %MXDBG, address from VMS Mail is GOATHUNTER > %MXDBG, checking for MX alias > %MXDBG, MX_ALIAS_LOOKUP status = 000182B2 > MX rewrote GOATHUNTER as > %MXDBG, MX address is > > Hunter > ------ > Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University > goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) I don't think this is entirely true or at least there is an extra check that could be carried out. If I look at the received message, this is the headers at the top... From: MX%"robbie@winkle.bhpese.oz.au" 13-MAY-1994 16:56:42.31 To: ROBBIE CC: Subj: TEST Return-Path: Received: by winkle.bhpese.oz.au (MX V3.3 VAX) id 21064; Fri, 13 May 1994 16:56:40 EST Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 16:56:37 EDT From: "What does this button do..." To: "blues::robbie"@winkle.bhpese.oz.au Message-ID: <0097E609.80BA5BA0.21064@winkle.bhpese.oz.au> Subject: TEST I believe that the top four lines are the standard VMS Mail headers and the rest are MX mail headers. If VMS Mail is only handing on ROBBIE to MX_MAILSHR then how does it get the information in the lower "To:" line? Could this information be used as a double check? Maybe it could be a configurable option if the overhead is significant. I live in hope. Thanks Hunter! -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rob Spencer, BHP Information Technology | Sorry, but my .sig Newcastle, Australia Voice: +61 49 40 1685 | is on .sig leave! Bits: robbie@winkle.bhpese.oz.au | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 05:02:52 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 01:53:31 PDT From: "John F. Sandhoff" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: mcjohnson@wizard.farinon.harris.com, syssand@CCVAX.CCS.CSUS.EDU Message-ID: <0097E58B.57534980.3911@CCVAX.CCS.CSUS.EDU> Subject: Re: Extracting "uuencode" file from VMS Mail Mike Johnson (415) 594-3530 writes: > I have received a mail message in my VMS mailbox (via MX) that contained a > UNIX "uuencode" file... > I ran into an error that indicated that the file was "short"... > Is there a known problem with receiving and extracting "uuencoded" > files on VMS. What version of MX are you using? Previous versions had a habit of removing trailing spaces from text lines; thus if the uuencoded file had spaces at the end of an encoded line. it would be corrupted. Some versions of the VMS uudecoder ignored this problem and decoded the file anyway - check out ftp.spc.edu in the [.macro32] subdirectory. There's other versions kicking around on the VMS archives too, but many of them have annoying bugs :-) (although, usually a 'short' file means it's missing lines at the end. Was it a large file? Does the extracted piece you have end with a line that says 'end'? Is it possible it was sent in multiple parts, in which case you need to reassemble all the pieces) John F. Sandhoff, University Network Support California State University, Sacramento - USA sandhoff@csus.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 05:43:37 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 05:43:26 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E5AB.75B998F0.17@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: Re: help reading this foreign mail wing@tgv.com (Dan Wing) writes: > >In article <0097E54A.FE29C540.9145@ycvax.york.cuny.edu>, kamrul@ycvax.york.cuny.edu writes: >>One of our users received this mail. Is there anyway we can read this mail >>by either VMS or MX mailer? I am including part of the mail for your perusal. > >No. MX only decodes stuff with a Content-Type of "APPLICATION/VMS-RMS" that >are encoded QUOTED-PRINTABLE or BASE64. It can't handle anything else. > You can fake it by adding the expected headers and using MX_DECODE to decode it. To get the fake headers, SEND/FOREIGN a file to yourself that is similar---if the encoded file is text, then send/foreign some text file to yourself, extract the headers, and add them to the top of the original BASE64 encoded message. If it's binary, then send a binary file to yourself and use those headers. The headers that must be present are: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-Type: APPLICATION/VMS-RMS; VMS-FDL="SYSTEM; SOURCE VAX/VMS;;FILE; ALLOCATION 3; BEST_TRY_CONTIGUOUS no; BUCKET_SIZE 0; CONTIGUOUS no; DEFERRED_WRITE no; EXTENSION 0; GLOBAL_BUFFER_COUNT 0; MT_BLOCK_SIZE 512; MAX_RECORD_NUMBER 0; MAXIMIZE_VERSION no; ORGANIZATION sequential; READ_CHECK no; SUPERSEDE no; WRITE_CHECK no;;RECORD; BLOCK_SPAN yes; CARRIAGE_CONTROL carriage_return; CONTROL_FIELD_SIZE 0; FORMAT variable; SIZE 0;;AREA 0; ALLOCATION 3; BEST_TRY_CONTIGUOUS no; BUCKET_SIZE 0; CONTIGUOUS no; EXACT_POSITIONING no; EXTENSION 0; POSITION none; VOLUME 0;" This came from my LOGIN.COM.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 08:33:48 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 08:29:55 EST From: "Michael L. Bowden" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097E5C2.B7AABC8C.123@earlham.edu> Subject: flq_mgr problems. I have been having some problems with MX not cleaning up after itself. The message queue grows and grows. I enabled FLQ_MGR debugging. According to the log, someone else is always cleaning the queue. This is becoming a real problem. Right now, the queue is half full (or half empty). I have been manually purging the queue twice a day. Is this normal? Can someone please tell me how flq_mgr works? Does it remove the finished entries from the queue and from the disk? Right now I have about 3 days of finished messages in the disk but not in the queue. I don't think this is how it works. I am running MX 4.0-1 on a VAXCluster (3100/80, 3100/30, 4000/200, 3540) with Multinet 3.2 I have the flq_mgr running on the 3540. The other nodes are running only smtp_server and local processes. I would appreciate any help... Michael L. Bowden Earlham College michaelb@earlham.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 08:55:11 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 08:54:53 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E5C6.347F6F61.3@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: flq_mgr problems. "Michael L. Bowden" writes: > >I have been having some problems with MX not cleaning up after itself. The >message queue grows and grows. I enabled FLQ_MGR debugging. According to the >log, someone else is always cleaning the queue. The Routers will report that when they try to handle the FLQ stuff. >This is becoming a real >problem. Right now, the queue is half full (or half empty). I have been >manually purging the queue twice a day. Is this normal? > >Can someone please tell me how flq_mgr works? Does it remove the finished >entries from the queue and from the disk? Right now I have about 3 days of >finished messages in the disk but not in the queue. I don't think this is how >it works. > That shouldn't be happening. Delete the files by hand that don't have queue entries and then define the following logicals: $ define/sys/exec MX_FLQ_CHECK_WAIT "0 00:01:00.00" $ define/sys/exec MX_FLQ_PURGE_WAIT "0 00:01:00.00" That'll make the FLQ Manager delete entries faster, which appears to have helped other sites reporting this problem (there have only been a couple of high-volume sites that have reported the problem). I'm investigating, but haven't gotten anywhere yet. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 09:46:47 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: morphis@FNALF.FNAL.GOV Subject: HELP! hung smtp agent? Date: 13 May 1994 14:31:47 GMT Message-ID: <2r030j$ktp@fnnews.fnal.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU More likely if I don't get this fixed is a hung system manager :( I am running MX V3.1 on VMS 5.5-2. I have smtp servers and local agents enabled on all nodes of our cluster (8 vaxstations and a Vaxserver 4300, actually one of the vaxstations doesn't have an IP address so the smtp server isn't active on that) And I have the smtp agent? that handles outgoing mail enabled on the VAXserver. This has worked just fine for over a year but I just found out that last Thursday the smtp agent apparently hung. it is in LEF state and there are 137 messages waiting to go. I tried mcp reset smtp and was told that the process was notified, I tried mcp shutdown, but that failed to shutdown the smtp process. sh sys gave 2020005E MX Router HIB 5 8748861 0 03:27:09.58 13100 4096 2020005F MX Local HIB 5 2790608 0 01:21:33.51 1053 1474 20200060 MX SMTP LEF 5 1625324 0 00:38:59.02 1733 1542 20200061 SMTP Server HIB 5 554158 0 00:26:26.18 3117 3145 sh proc /cont gave State LEF Working set 1543 Cur/base priority 6/4 Virtual pages 3063 Current PC 7FFEE44C CPU time 000:00:38:59.02 Current PSL 03C00004 Direct I/O 1414295 Current user SP 7FF80AF8 Buffered I/O 211029 PID 20200060 Page faults 1734 UIC [SYSTEM] Event flags E0000000 A0000000 $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.MX.][EXE]MX_SMTP.EXE;1 mcp que sho Entry Status Size Source Agent Entry Status Size ----- ------ ------ ------ ------- ----- ------ ------ 24955 INPROG 10415 LOCAL SMTP 24987 INPROG 10415 24995 INPROG 959 LOCAL SMTP 25003 READY 959 25016 INPROG 1243 LOCAL SMTP 25024 READY 1243 MCP> que sho 24955/full Entry: 24955, Origin: [Local] Status: IN-PROGRESS, size: 10415 bytes Created: 5-MAY-1994 15:07:29.45, expires 4-JUN-1994 15:07:29.45 Last modified 5-MAY-1994 16:17:27.98 SMTP entry #24987, status: IN-PROGRESS, size: 10415 bytes Created: 5-MAY-1994 16:17:27.22, expires 4-JUN-1994 15:07:29.45 Last modified 5-MAY-1994 16:17:27.86 Recipient #1: , Route=barnard.columbia.edu (where blah.blah has been used as a vague attempt to provide privacy) HELP! any help you can give would be deeply appreciated by my wife and child. Robert Morphis ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 09:59:26 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 09:59:07 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E5CF.2DD4E903.3@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: HELP! hung smtp agent? morphis@FNALF.FNAL.GOV writes: > >I tried mcp reset smtp and was told that the process was notified, >I tried mcp shutdown, but that failed to shutdown the smtp process. > It's impossible to tell why it's hung, but I'd guess that it's TCP/IP-related. In any case, STOP/ID=xxx the MX SMTP process. Then restart it and MCP QUEUE READY 24987 (or 24955): >MCP> que sho 24955/full >Entry: 24955, Origin: [Local] > Status: IN-PROGRESS, size: 10415 bytes > Created: 5-MAY-1994 15:07:29.45, expires 4-JUN-1994 15:07:29.45 > Last modified 5-MAY-1994 16:17:27.98 > SMTP entry #24987, status: IN-PROGRESS, size: 10415 bytes > Created: 5-MAY-1994 16:17:27.22, expires 4-JUN-1994 15:07:29.45 > Last modified 5-MAY-1994 16:17:27.86 > Recipient #1: , >Route=barnard.columbia.edu > Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 19:40:35 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: HELP! hung smtp agent? Date: 14 May 1994 00:12:04 GMT Message-ID: <2r150k$sfb@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <2r030j$ktp@fnnews.fnal.gov>, morphis@FNALF.FNAL.GOV writes: =I tried mcp reset smtp and was told that the process was notified, =I tried mcp shutdown, but that failed to shutdown the smtp process. = =sh sys = =gave = =2020005E MX Router HIB 5 8748861 0 03:27:09.58 13100 4096 =2020005F MX Local HIB 5 2790608 0 01:21:33.51 1053 1474 =20200060 MX SMTP LEF 5 1625324 0 00:38:59.02 1733 1542 =20200061 SMTP Server HIB 5 554158 0 00:26:26.18 3117 3145 If all else fails, you could: $ STOP/ID=20200060 BARNARD.COLUMBIA.EDU may not be overjoyed at your doing so (assuming that IT hasn't forgotten that there's an SMTP session in progress), but that SHOULD stop the SMTP process. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 04:17:40 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 13:34:09 -0305 From: SAEED KHADEMI Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097E6B6.6256C880.7328@IREARN.BITNET> Subject: RE: LISTSERV QUESTION Dear Friends, Thank you very much for your kindly help. MCP show system_user, shows nothing. Here is output of SHOW LIST command : ============================================= Mailing lists: Name: IR-NET Owner: "SAEED@IREARN.BITNET" Reply-to: NOList, Sender Description: IRAN'S COMPUTER NETWORKING LIST Errors-to: SAEED@IREARN.BITNET Strip header: NOReceived Private list: No Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RWED,WORLD:RWE) ============================================================ And here is output of REVIEW IR-NET command, I marked two of those addresses which I want to change ( let say first remove, then add in gateway addressing ) ============================================= saeed khademi Siavash Shahshahani Bahram Goliaei MOHSEN BAHRAMI Ebrahim Mashayekh karim Mazaheri CC_AKU@IREARN.BITNET Mohammad Banikazemi GMESHER@BPA.ARIZONA.EDU Manouchehr Parsaei Anoosh Hosseini Farhad Bahrami Hamid Haddad Tehrani "Dr. Hossein Bagherzadeh Rafsanjani" Edmond Zahedi "[Makan Pourzandi]" **--->>> this one "[Kaveh Massoudian]" Mohsen Banan **--->>> and this one Kamran Ghane Payman Arabshahi Ahmad Eghbaldar Masoud Majidi Farhad Shakeri Ali Shokoufandeh "[Majid Barazande-Pour]" "[Koorosh Vakhshoori]" Tooraj Enayati Mohammad-Reza Mahdavian Mehdi Alipour Bahman Keramati "Seyed A. Moallem" Farzin Mokhtarian Mehregan Nejat Ramin Ghafouri HESSAM TAHERIAN "[Ali Afzali-Kushaa]" "MOHAMMAD H. GHAHREMANI" Farshad Fazlollahi Ladan Kazerouni Mehdi Hosseini-Nezhad Masoud Ghezelbash Mojtaba Rajaee "[Cyrus Shahabi]." FARDAD KORDMAHALEH "Mohammad Lotfi-jam." Mohammad Ghodsi ardeshir@WRIGHT.APS.UOGUELPH.CA hra@POLLUX.CS.UGA.EDU Saeed Rezaei Reza Ghodssi Arash Bafekr nivad@PELE.EE.MCGILL.CA "Rasool Jalili ." "A. Hossein Farajpahlou" p2111865@UNSW.EDU.AU p2113826@UNSW.EDU.AU ALI MOJAHED Habib Mir Hosseini p2125645@UNSW.EDU.AU Hamid Afsharazad "G.B. Khosrovshahi" Ali Taalebinezhaad "{Mohammad Rezai]" Saeed Razfar Katayoun Massoudi Fereidoon Shams Aliee FARZAM FARAHMAND "S.M. Reza Rastegar" ",Farideddin Peiravian" MOHAMMAD MORADI SHAHRBABAK "[Jahangir Ghofraniha]" Mojtaba Noursalehi Masoud Sajadieh Ali Nabavi Hassan Karim Nassiri-Toussi kamran etemad "A.R. Mehridehnavi" Rezaa Ardekaaniaan Mehdi <058016%UOTTAWA.BITNET@IREARN.BITNET> "naghsh@ee.utah.edu" "jabbari@ecn.purdue.edu" Shiri Nemetollaah JAVAD SABERI SHAKIBATE1Q0M1X1V1S7=60 Mohammad Behbahani-Nejad ALI-AKBAR KHADEM-NAKHJIRI alireza@CS.UQ.OZ.AU "ZOUHAYR HAYATI." vahid@JOVE.RUTGERS.EDU Arash Bannazadeh-Mahani Moharram D Pirooz MOSTAFA Saeedeh Ketabi Alireza Moini "H. Arzani" Mohammad Khodayarifard "hamids@rad.hfh.edu" jalili Abolfazl Monadi ahmadi Shahin Hatamian (CONCEAL) Sepehr Mehrabanzad "MOHAMMAD H. HEYDARI" "hamid@eng.sun.com" (NOMAIL) P2011859@CSDVAX.CSD.UNSW.EDU.AU Mohammad Taghavi-Fard ABDOLREZA GHODS HAMID NAZERI Iraj Sodagar ebrahim RAHNAVARD@ECONOMICS.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU Karim Sharif Farzan Mamaghani Reza Aliabadi HOSSEIN MIRZAIE NODOUSHAN Mohammad Nikuie ezzatollah asgharizadeh Saeed Vahid "A.M. Abolghasem" H Torab Homayoon Beigi Ahmad Alavi Kathy Coleman webberr@PICTEL.COM AHMAD ESMAEILI Behnam Ravani Jahangir Rahman Jalal Maleki farshid@INOMS.BELLCORE.COM larijani@IREARN Mansour Esmaili heda_mo@PTS.MOT.COM Mack Hashemi (mack@isl.stanford.edu) Majid Soleimanipour Abdellatif Charafi Mohammad Iman Fariborz Mohammadzadeh Farhan alireza borghei nasser@SNOOPY.NET.COM Amin Mohadjer BAHRAM JALAYER DARYOUSH is my name KAHANI MOHSEN K_FAEZ@IREARN.BITNET "[Jalal Soltanianzadeh]" Vida Tigrani mohammad javad maghrebi "Vahid Ahmadi " (CONCEAL) JAFAR ADIBI "[Reza Bagherian]" Ahad GHODRAT RAHIMI-MIANJI Reza Moghimi SABER "masoud darbandi, darbandi@sunwise.uwaterloo.ca" HALEH DARAI "Kourosh Soroushian." mohammad shahri alireza Amir Horr ALI MOAZZAMI <640390@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA> Mehdi Moghaddam <054931%UOTTAWA.BITNET@IREARN.BITNET> Katherine Weeden MANUCHEHR AMIRI Mahdi Zamani Nasser Esmaili "Akbar Afaghi" analoui (CONCEAL) "[M. Hassan Raza]" Amir Taghavi Sassan Babaie cont@POLY.POLYTECHNIQUE.FR "CVMARTIN@COPPER.UCS.INDIANA.EDU" "[mohammad sedighy]" "[KOOROSH AKHAVAN]" Abdollah Ramezanzadeh "PEJMANP@AOL.COM" "srs100g@oduvm.cc.odu.edu" "pmohseni@iastate.edu" "ebrahim@ee.umanitoba.ca" "MRC2@PSUVM.PSU.EDU" "asi@ee.umanitoba.ca" "fayegh@cs.ubc.ca" "nhashemi@ccs.carleton.ca" "khosro@world.std.com" (CONCEAL) "afshin@astro.ocis.temple.edu" "Rashidi@wmich.edu" "babak1@acs.bu.edu" "dkrouhbakhsh@ucdavis.edu" "abrisham@cae.wisc.edu" "khansar@comm.toronto.edu" "paran_p@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu" "abaye@seas.smu.edu" "mosavian@elec.uq.oz.au" "siamakr@aisb.ed.ac.uk" "kourajbf@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de" "f.farzin-nia@lut.ac.uk" "mvahidi@cs.ucsd.edu" "hqurba1@gl.umbc.edu" "jg@metaflow.com" "bahman1@acs.bu.edu" in%"sharifat@sask.usask.ca" "karima@triton.unm.edu" "jaafar@cape.uwaterloo.ca" "benf@engr.sgi.com" "masoud@frodo.mece.ualberta.ca" "Mac134@herald.usask.ca" "mbinesh@auspex.com" "ez040299@chip.ucdavis.edu" "AHMED N.MEKHTIEV" "Desert Man..." "sepehr@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu" "riaz@gauss.engga.uwo.ca" "allameh.1@osu.edu" "amirishs@cims.nyu.edu" yourinternetaddressgoeshere "fara@u.washington.edu" "mha320@engr.USask.ca" "akbariad@ccmail.frb.gov" "reza@plains.NoDak.edu" "hossein@veritas.com" "aliinny@aol.com" Massoud Rahimpour "agheissari@ucsd" "atai@frodo.mece.ualberta.ca" "uniware@netcom.com" "Amir H. Teimoortagh" eprciran@IREARN.BITNET fuad@EE.PDX.EDU hborhani@IREARN.BITNET "ma@cadcam.kth.se" Majid Hosseini "BCGREENF@COPPER.UCS.INDIANA.EDU" "(Mike (Mikey) Khosraviani)" javad alavi@VISION.VSRC.UAB.EDU Abbas Kord A esmaili ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 08:31:52 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 08:28:10 CDT From: "George D. Greenwade" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: saeed@irearn.bitnet Message-ID: <0097E68B.A3EA6840.4@SHSU.edu> Subject: RE: LISTSERV QUESTION On Sat, 14 May 1994 13:34:09 -0305, SAEED KHADEMI posted: > MCP show system_user, shows nothing. Hmmm. Not normal, but shouldn't cause any problems I can think of. > Here is output of SHOW LIST command : > ============================================= > Mailing lists: > Name: IR-NET > Owner: "SAEED@IREARN.BITNET" > Reply-to: NOList, Sender > Description: IRAN'S COMPUTER NETWORKING LIST > Errors-to: SAEED@IREARN.BITNET > Strip header: NOReceived > Private list: No > Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RWED,WORLD:RWE) > ============================================================ The problem line here is: > Owner: "SAEED@IREARN.BITNET" given that your mail header claims you are: > These are NOT the same addresses. Use MCP MODIFY LIST IR_NET/OWNER="saeed@IREARN.BITNET" and that shoudl make you the owner. Since there is not a /case indicated in the MCP SHOW LIST command. MX 4.x supports a case ignore switch for lists (not for previously added addresses, so it wouldn't help you here; but it probably would in the future). Once you get the ownership issue straightened out, then issue a MCP RESET/CLUSTER to reset the MX agents (yes, it's overkill as far as which specific agents have to be reset, but it gets the job done). Once this is done, send the following post to MX%"IR-NET-Request": remove Makan.Pourzandi@LIP.ENS-LYON.FR remove mohsen@ROSTAM.NEDA.COM This should take care of everything. --George ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 11:25:51 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: morphis@D0GS04.FNAL.GOV Subject: RE: HELP! hung smtp agent? Date: 14 May 1994 16:10:10 GMT Message-ID: <2r2t52$sa8@fnnews.fnal.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU "Hunter Goatley, WKU" writes: >morphis@FNALF.FNAL.GOV writes: >> >>I tried mcp reset smtp and was told that the process was notified, >>I tried mcp shutdown, but that failed to shutdown the smtp process. >> >It's impossible to tell why it's hung, but I'd guess that it's >TCP/IP-related. In any case, STOP/ID=xxx the MX SMTP process. > >Then restart it and MCP QUEUE READY 24987 (or 24955): Thanks that did it. I tryed first with 24955 but that didn't work so possibly it was that message. on the other hand I didn't do things exactly the same both times sooo Thanks again, and thanks to Carl Lydick who also sent a message suggesting a stop/id. >>MCP> que sho 24955/full >Hunter >------ >Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University >goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 02:36:29 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sun, 15 May 94 00:33:15 PDT From: wing@TGV.COM (Dan Wing) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <940515003315.20a00b56@TGV.COM> Subject: Re: HELP! hung smtp agent? To: morphis@fnalf.fnal.gov, mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu In article <2r030j$ktp@fnnews.fnal.gov>, morphis@FNALF.FNAL.GOV writes: #>More likely if I don't get this fixed is a hung system manager :( #>I am running MX V3.1 on VMS 5.5-2. I have smtp servers and local agents #>enabled on all nodes of our cluster (8 vaxstations and a Vaxserver 4300, #>actually one of the vaxstations doesn't have an IP address so the smtp #>server isn't active on that) And I have the smtp agent? that handles #>outgoing mail enabled on the VAXserver. This has worked just fine for #>over a year but I just found out that last Thursday the smtp agent apparently #>hung. it is in LEF state and there are 137 messages waiting to go. #>I tried mcp reset smtp and was told that the process was notified, #>I tried mcp shutdown, but that failed to shutdown the smtp process. [...] #>any help you can give would be deeply appreciated by my wife and child. :-) First, simply STOP/ID the SMTP agent and restart it with: $ @SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP SMTP it is also a good idea to run multiple outgoing SMTP agents. MX V4.0's installation procedure asks how many agents you want to run (which simplifies configuration). Otherwise, you have to edit MX_ROOT:[000000]MX_STARTUP_INFO.DAT and modify the line for SMTP and add a "=nn", where nn is the number of agents SMTP agents you want to run. Two is a good place to start.... This allows another agent to deliver small messages while the other agent is busy delivering a 100Mb file to a site on the moon. The current version of MX is V4.0-1, available from ftp.spc.edu in [.MX]. I'd encourage you to upgrade -- it includes significant performance enhancements and a slew of features that weren't available in V3.1. -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 02:51:40 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 12:17:25 -0305 From: SAEED KHADEMI Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097E774.D501DA00.10612@IREARN.BITNET> Subject: RE: LISTSERV QUESTION Dear Friend, I have done what you said, currently the owner of list is "saeed@IREARN" instead of "SAEED@IREARN", and I have used RESET/CLUSTER. Now, I can delete users from list, by sendig a mail to "LISTSERV@IREARN" and using REMOVE command, but when I try to send mail to "IR-NET-REQUEST@IREARN", I get the following message!! What's the problem? Please notice that it says insufficient privilege. Regards, Saeed. =================================================================== From: MX%"Postmaster@IREARN.BITNET" 15-MAY-1994 11:25:36.04 To: SAEED CC: Subj: Mailing list or file server error Return-Path: <> Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 11:25:12 -0305 From: Mailing list & file server To: Subject: Mailing list or file server error Note: this message was generated automatically. The following error(s) occurred during local delivery of your message. Error in delivery to mailing list IR-NET: REMOVE failed: insufficient privilege Error in delivery to mailing list IR-NET: REMOVE failed: insufficient privilege Error in delivery to mailing list IR-NET: REMOVE failed: insufficient privilege Error in delivery to mailing list IR-NET: REMOVE failed: insufficient privilege ------------------------------ Rejected message ------------------------------ Received: by IREARN.BITNET (MX V3.3 VAX) id 10313; Sun, 15 May 1994 11:25:04 -03 05 Sender: saeed@IREARN.BITNET Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 11:24:48 -0305 From: SAEED KHADEMI To: ir-net-request@irearn.bitnet Message-ID: <0097E76D.7B053760.10313@IREARN.BITNET> REMOVE Makan.Pourzandi@LIP.ENS-LYON.FR REMOVE alavi@VISION.VSRC.UAB.EDU REMOVE mohsen@ROSTAM.NEDA.COM REMOVE mnejat@CADENCE.COM ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 02:56:18 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 02:56:09 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E726.6C30531F.5@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: LISTSERV QUESTION SAEED KHADEMI writes: > >Dear Friend, > I have done what you said, currently the owner of list is "saeed@IREARN" >instead of "SAEED@IREARN", and I have used RESET/CLUSTER. Check again---it should be "saeed@IREARN.BITNET". ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 03:38:56 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 13:02:09 -0305 From: SAEED KHADEMI Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E77B.149DF940.10792@IREARN.BITNET> Subject: RE: LISTSERV QUESTION >> >>Dear Friend, >> I have done what you said, currently the owner of list is "saeed@IREARN" >>instead of "SAEED@IREARN", and I have used RESET/CLUSTER. > >Check again---it should be "saeed@IREARN.BITNET". Yes it is "saeed@IREARN.BITNET", I didn't write complete address in last mail but the address is correct. Regards, Saeed. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 03:43:07 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 03:42:59 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E72C.F6FA3F14.6@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: LISTSERV QUESTION SAEED KHADEMI writes: > >>Check again---it should be "saeed@IREARN.BITNET". > Yes it is "saeed@IREARN.BITNET", I didn't write complete address in last mail >but the address is correct. Try enabling MLF debugging to see what the log file says about your mail. $ define/sys/exec mx_mlf_debug true This will create an MX_MLF_LOG.LOG file in MX_MLF_DIR:. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 05:04:54 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: RE: LISTSERV QUESTION Date: 15 May 1994 09:54:36 GMT Message-ID: <2r4rgs$nil@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0097E6B6.6256C880.7328@IREARN.BITNET>, SAEED KHADEMI writes: =Dear Friends, = Thank you very much for your kindly help. = MCP show system_user, shows nothing. = Here is output of SHOW LIST command : ============================================== =Mailing lists: = Name: IR-NET = Owner: "SAEED@IREARN.BITNET" = Reply-to: NOList, Sender = Description: IRAN'S COMPUTER NETWORKING LIST = Errors-to: SAEED@IREARN.BITNET = Strip header: NOReceived = Private list: No = Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RWED,WORLD:RWE) ============================================================= That's fine. = And here is output of REVIEW IR-NET command, I marked two of those addresses =which I want to change ( let say first remove, then add in gateway addressing ) That's *NOT* what you were asked to provide. What you *WERE* asked to provide was one of the messages wherein MX told you it wouldn't process your request. Is the REALLY too difficult for your to understand? If so, I'll fill in the details: 1) You send a request to the list; 2) The list sends you a message saying it couldn't do what you asked it to do. 3) You send us the message you received in step 2. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 06:43:36 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 16:06:25 -0305 From: SAEED KHADEMI Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E794.D2419B00.11372@IREARN.BITNET> Subject: RE: LISTSERV QUESTION >Try enabling MLF debugging to see what the log file says about your >mail. > > $ define/sys/exec mx_mlf_debug true > >This will create an MX_MLF_LOG.LOG file in MX_MLF_DIR:. > >Hunter It seems that everything works well. I have rebooted system and after that I send a message to IR-NET-REQUEST. After that I looked MLF debug file, it shows that everything is ok. Now another question : ( sorry for my trouble ) When I send REMOVE command again, it says that users is not in subscribers list ( expexted message ), but when I use MCP REVIEW IR-NET, I can see the name of removed subscriber in list!! Does MX remove records from MLF physicaly or not? ( maybe it puts a label for deleted records ) Many Many thanks for all helps. Best Regards, Saeed. +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | Saeed Khademi | E-mail : SAEED@IREARN.BITNET | | Computer Department | Phone : +9821 243860 | | Institute for studies in | P.O.Box: 19395-1795 | | theoretical Physics and | Fax : +9821 8014003 | | Mathematics ( IPM ) | Telex : +9821 214758 | | Iran/Tehran | | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 08:28:40 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: williscc@vax.sbu.ac.uk (Christopher C Willis) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: DEFINE MX_whatever.... Message-ID: <1994May15.132629.6401@vax.sbu.ac.uk> Date: 15 May 94 13:26:29 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Could someone please supply me with a list of DEFINEable MX parameters which can be placed in individual login.com files? Thanks Chris -- \\|// (o o) __________oOO____(_)____OOo____________________________________________ E-Mail: williscc@vax.sbu.ac.uk Christopher C Willis Home: chris@fire.demon.co.uk ...censored space... _______________________________________________________________________ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 11:52:04 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 09:48:21 -0700 From: "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: rharwood@Data.Basix.COM Message-ID: <0097E760.01D32300.831@Data.Basix.COM> Subject: RE: LISTSERV QUESTION > When I send REMOVE command again, it says that users is not in subscribers > list ( expexted message ), but when I use MCP REVIEW IR-NET, I can see the > name of removed subscriber in list!! Does MX remove records from MLF physicaly > or not? ( maybe it puts a label for deleted records ) Any name actually removed will NOT appear on the REVIEW list. When you send the REMOVE command, remember that the subscriber name must be the COMPLETE name (with username AND domain name) and that you must pay attention to upper and lower case. (This is a simplification, but it works.) My guess is your REMOVE didn't match upper/lower case of the name in the REVIEW results. Good luck, Ray ----- Ray Harwood | Data Basix | DEC Pro Networking Editor Voice: (602)721-1988 | PO Box 18324 | "Internet Resource Guide" FAX: (602)721-7240 | Tucson, AZ 85731 | Internet training & consulting RHarwood@Data.Basix.COM | Info@Data.Basix.COM | DEC small-system management ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 01:38:47 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 11:01:54 -0305 From: SAEED KHADEMI Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097E833.724E0180.12400@IREARN.BITNET> Subject: LISTSERV PROBLEM ( I'm sorry but I don't know what is happening ) Dear Friends, I'm am so sorry for my trouble to all of you, but LISTSERV doesn't work properly. Here is another problem, one of our subscribers has tried to sign off from IR-NET, but LISTSERV says that automate signoff is not possible and forward his mail to me. I should say that I have tested all of commands, when I created these lists and everything worked very well. But after upgrating MX V32 to V33, problems are coming. For test, I have sent a mail to listserv for signoff my name from IPM_L, but the result is the same. Then I checked PROTECTION of lists, it seems they are correct. Is there any solution? Here is the returned mail of that user, and the definition of all of my lists. Regards, Saeed ======================================================================= RETURNED MAIL ======================================================================= From: IREARN::AMASOUD 15-MAY-1994 17:10:31.75 To: SAEED CC: Subj: my problem From: MX%"Postmaster@IREARN.BITNET" 15-MAY-1994 16:42:30.94 To: AMASOUD CC: Subj: Mailing list or file server error Return-Path: <> Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 16:42:16 -0305 From: Mailing list & file server To: Subject: Mailing list or file server error Note: this message was generated automatically. The following error(s) occurred during local delivery of your message. Error in delivery to mailing list IR-NET: SIGNOFF could not be handled automatically; request forwarded to list owner ------------------------------ Rejected message ------------------------------ Received: by IREARN.BITNET (MX V3.3 VAX) id 11503; Sun, 15 May 1994 16:42:13 -03 05 Sender: amasoud@IREARN.BITNET Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 16:42:12 -0305 From: amasoud@IREARN.BITNET To: listserv@irearn.bitnet Message-ID: <0097E799.D2597680.11503@IREARN.BITNET> SIGNOFF IR-NET ================================================================= DEFINITION OF LISTS ========================== Mailing lists: Name: IPM_L Owner: "saeed@IREARN.BITNET" Reply-to: NOList, Sender Description: IPM INTERNAL NEWS LIST Errors-to: saeed@IREARN.BITNET Strip header: NOReceived Private list: No Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RWED,WORLD:RWE) Mailing lists: Name: IR-NET Owner: "saeed@IREARN.BITNET" Reply-to: NOList, Sender Description: IRAN'S COMPUTER NETWORKING LIST Errors-to: saeed@IREARN.BITNET Strip header: NOReceived Private list: No Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RWED,WORLD:RWE) Mailing lists: Name: NET-HELP Owner: "saeed@IREARN.BITNET" Reply-to: NOList, Sender Description: IRAN NETWORK HELP DESK Errors-to: saeed@IREARN.BITNET Strip header: NOReceived Private list: No Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RWED,WORLD:RWE) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 04:51:47 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 09:25:37 -0100 To: From: Robertini@sns.it (Marco Robertini) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: MX and MX records Maybe I'm thinking wrong... If I have this message header: To: Andrea@impiegato.sns.it From: Robertini@sns.it (Marco Robertini) and in my nameserver exist theese records for host impiegato: impiegato IN A 192.84.155.73 impiegato IN MX 30 vaxsns.sns.it. I expect the message to go to Andrea@vaxsns.sns.it. If this is correct in your opinion, there is someone who wants give me a card to play to understand where is my mistake. Another similar questions: fs3.in.umist.ac.uk has an mx pointing to mailrouter.umist.ac.uk. Infact in log file I see message redirected to mailrouter.umist.ac.uk. Actually mailrouter.umist.ac.uk has several addresses. The first one in the list [130.88.200.29] is currently dead, but the mailer should pick up another one. This is not the case for me and my message can't fly. I have MX 3.3 and UCX 2.0. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Marco Robertini +39 50 509268 + + Fax +39 50 563513 + + Lan manager - Scuola Normale Superiore di Pisa + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 05:15:08 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 05:14:58 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E802.FB5FEC8A.27@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: LISTSERV PROBLEM ( I'm sorry but I don't know what is happening ) SAEED KHADEMI writes: > >Dear Friends, > I'm am so sorry for my trouble to all of you, but LISTSERV doesn't >work properly. > Here is another problem, one of our subscribers has tried to sign off from >IR-NET, but LISTSERV says that automate signoff is not possible and forward >his mail to me. > I should say that I have tested all of commands, when I created these >lists and everything worked very well. But after upgrating MX V32 to V33, >problems are coming. > For test, I have sent a mail to listserv for signoff my name from IPM_L, >but the result is the same. Then I checked PROTECTION of lists, it seems they >are correct. Is there any solution? > Here is the returned mail of that user, and the definition of all of my lists. As was mentioned a couple of times already in this discussion, I think, MX treats the left-hand side of an address in a case-sensitive manner. My guess is that if you check the subscription list, you'll find that the case for: >To: is different. Most likely that address on the list is . Since MX doesn't see the two addresses as equivalent, it couldn't remove the user and it forwarded the request to the list owner. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 05:20:58 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 05:20:45 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E803.CA4D7229.29@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MX and MX records Robertini@sns.it (Marco Robertini) writes: > >Maybe I'm thinking wrong... > >If I have this message header: > >To: Andrea@impiegato.sns.it >From: Robertini@sns.it (Marco Robertini) > >and in my nameserver exist theese records for host impiegato: > >impiegato IN A 192.84.155.73 >impiegato IN MX 30 vaxsns.sns.it. > > >I expect the message to go to Andrea@vaxsns.sns.it. > Correct. I just tested it and it does go to the correct system from here: ---------- AXP$ multi show MultiNet Active Connections: Proto Rcv-Q Snd-Q Local Address (Port) Foreign Address (Port) State ----- ----- ----- ------------------ ------------------ ----- TCP 0 277 ALPHA.WKU.EDU(3694) 192.84.155.3(SMTP) ESTABLISHED [...] AXP$ smtp 192.84.155.3 Trying... Connected. 220 vaxsns.sns.it MX V3.3 VAX SMTP server ready at Mon, 16 May 1994 12:15:58 N ---------- >If this is correct in your opinion, there is someone who wants give me a >card to play >to understand where is my mistake. > ??? >Another similar questions: > >fs3.in.umist.ac.uk has an mx pointing to mailrouter.umist.ac.uk. Actually, it has several, none of which point to mailrouter: ---------- AXP$ nsl/typ=any fs3.in.umist.ac.uk Server: wkuvx1.wku.edu Address: 161.6.5.1 FS3.IN.UMIST.AC.UK internet address = 130.88.121.102 FS3.IN.UMIST.AC.UK preference = 3, mail exchanger = mailrouter1.umist.ac.uk FS3.IN.UMIST.AC.UK preference = 4, mail exchanger = mailrouter2.umist.ac.uk FS3.IN.UMIST.AC.UK preference = 5, mail exchanger = mailrouter3.umist.ac.uk FS3.IN.UMIST.AC.UK preference = 6, mail exchanger = mailrouter4.umist.ac.uk ---------- >Infact in log file I see message redirected to mailrouter.umist.ac.uk. >Actually mailrouter.umist.ac.uk has several addresses. The first one in the >list [130.88.200.29] is currently dead, but the mailer should pick up >another one. This is not the case for me and my message can't fly. > If it can't reach mailrouter1, then, yes, it should go to mailrouter2 and so on. If that's not happening, enabled MX SMTP debugging to see what the log file says: $ define/sys/exec mx_smtp_debug true The log files will be created in MX_SMTP_DIR:. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 11:31:37 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: "S.T.Hayes" Subject: mailexchanger dns problem To: MX-List@wkuvx1.wku.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 16 May 94 15:17:27 BST Message-ID: <9405161517.aa03767@uk.ac.ed.festival> I have a problem here with machines which are registered in the DNS for mail, using the 'mailexchanger' facility. If I send mail to 'user@phyvax', by which I mean 'phyvax.ed.ac.uk', it checks the DNS, and finds 'mailexchanger = nsfnet-relay.ac.uk' Unfortunately, it tells this machine that the mail is intended for 'phyvax', and nsfnet-relay says "Unknown domain 'phyvax'". If I mail "user@phyvax.ed.ac.uk", the mail is correctly directed at 'phyvax'. The machine 'phyvax' does not have an IP address registered in the DNS, and does not support direct SMTP mail. For a single host such as this, I could use a re-write rule, but there could be many such hosts around the Edinburgh area. I am running MX V4.0-1, using SMTP only for mail transmission. ! Stephen Hayes, Edinburgh University Computing Service. ! S.T.Hayes @ edinburgh.ac.uk, Tel: 031-650 4990. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 12:04:41 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 10:00:49 PDT From: "John F. Sandhoff" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: Robertini@sns.it, syssand@CCVAX.CCS.CSUS.EDU Message-ID: <0097E82A.E9EE7B60.13933@CCVAX.CCS.CSUS.EDU> Subject: RE: MX and MX records >If I have this message header: > To: Andrea@impiegato.sns.it > and in my nameserver exist theese records for host impiegato: > > impiegato IN A 192.84.155.73 > impiegato IN MX 30 vaxsns.sns.it. > > I expect the message to go to Andrea@vaxsns.sns.it. Kinda. The message will be ADDRESSED to andrea@impiegato.sns.it, but it will be DELIVERED to host vaxsns.sns.it. Assuming that the mailer on vaxsns is any good at all, it will then turn around and forward it to impiegato. This can be verified by looking at the 'received from/received by' headers on the message when Andrea receives it. If you want the message to STOP at vaxsns, then you need to program vaxsns so that it believes that the hostname impiegato is a LOCAL host name (this, however, will cause true havoc if you *ever* want to send mail FROM vaxsns TO impiegato). > Another similar questions: > fs3.in.umist.ac.uk has an mx pointing to mailrouter.umist.ac.uk. > Infact in log file I see message redirected to mailrouter.umist.ac.uk. > Actually mailrouter.umist.ac.uk has several addresses. The first one in the > list [130.88.200.29] is currently dead, but the mailer should pick up > another one. This is not the case for me and my message can't fly. 1) Address 130.88.200.29 currently responds OK. Was this a temporary outage? 2) If 130.88.200.29 was truly down, are you sure that the other addresses were indeed up? 3) If #2 is true, this sounds like a bug. Hunter? John F. Sandhoff, University Network Support California State University, Sacramento - USA sandhoff@csus.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 15:29:12 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 15:26:15 EST From: Why Me Buckaroo Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: "netmail::\"mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu\""@earlham.edu Message-ID: <0097E858.609BFA26.52@earlham.edu> Subject: add me. subscribe "Ira B. Carmel" quit -ira C User Support Manager Earlham Computing Services Earlham College Richmond IN 47374 Office Phone 317-973-1366 Emergency Home 317-973-2970 irac@earlham.edu End of line. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 12:47:26 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: dhuddles@gandalf.ca (David Huddleson) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: MX problem with ALL-IN-1 Date: 17 May 1994 13:27:15 -0400 Message-ID: <2raupj$5cq@charm.gandalf.ca> Keywords: MX, Multinet, ALL-IN-1 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hi, I'm a little frazzled here... I'm running MX 3.3 (just grabbed 4.0-1) on my VAX system here running VMS 5.5-1. In fact I have been running MX with TGV's Multinet V3.2B for over a year without problems at all. I have even interfaced it with ALL-IN-1 V2.4 with some very straightforward ALL-IN-1 customizations... This is all FINE!! All has been interacting and working for over a year. NOW --> I have 3 ALL-IN-1 systems connected by DECNET (NOT in a VAXCluster!) Up until now, I have instructed users to route all Internet (SMTP/MX) mail through my central VAX here: In ALL-IN-1 TO: mx%"xxxx.yyy.zzz"@MRGATE@MY_VAX Again this has been OK for the same year timeframe, as long as the user remembers to add the "@MY_VAX". I have Multinet on the other 2 VAX's, so I installed MX over there also!!! On the other systems I applied the same customizations in ALL-IN-1 for the SMTP addressing/routing. I can send VMS Mail using MX%"xxxxxxx", but when I send from ALL-IN-1, my MX QUEUE entries are missing info!!! The HDR file does not have any recipients! I can't figure out what might be wrong???? If I am on the other VAX systems, and use Message Router to route the ALL-IN-1 message back to the central VAX system, and THEN out via MX, all works fine. Can anyone figure out if I forgot something when I setup MX on the other VAX systems, or maybe I missed some ALL-IN-1 customization! Thanks if you can help, David -- dhuddles@gandalf.ca David J. Huddleson Gandalf Data Ltd., Nepean, Ontario (613) 723-6500 Days (613) 822-1315 Otherwise ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 13:17:49 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: "S.T.Hayes" Subject: MX SMTP exiting To: MX-List@wkuvx1.wku.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 17 May 94 17:14:11 BST Message-ID: <9405171714.aa18478@uk.ac.ed.festival> On the AXP version of MX, I occasionally get the SMTP server disappearing. The file mx_smtp_dir:mx_smtp_fringe.log (the name of my machine is 'fringe') says MX SMTP (pid ...) exiting, status = 001828A Is there any way to determine what this means please? I did: define/system/exec mx_smtp_debug The last entries in mx_smtp_dir:mx_smtp_log.log are: *** Processing queue entry number 4 on node FRINGE *** Recipient: , route= *** SMTP_SEND: looking up host name I am attempting to send a mail job to 'junk' for test purposes only. I was attempting to produce some rewrite rules, as a result of problems mentioned earlier. I am running MX V4.0-1 AXP on this machine, using SMTP only, over UCX 3.1 EFT2. ! Stephen Hayes, Edinburgh University Computing Service. ! S.T.Hayes @ ed.ac.uk, Tel: 031-650 4990. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 14:08:02 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 14:05:06 EST From: Why Me Buckaroo Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: "netmail::\"MX-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu\""@earlham.edu Message-ID: <0097E916.34C1FDA6.41@earlham.edu> Subject: Alphabetize? If this is a FAQ or covered in the manual, please point me in the right direction... I am interested in alphabetizing the list review's for my list managers. I don't really want to write a routine that takes a review, removes everyone and then resubscribes them. Has anyone solved this little item? Am I missing it in the manual? -ira C User Support Manager Earlham Computing Services Earlham College Richmond IN 47374 Office Phone 317-973-1366 Emergency Home 317-973-2970 irac@earlham.edu End of line. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 14:08:45 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 15:01:25 EDT From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wku.edu Message-ID: <0097E91E.12F759C0.7818@swdev.si.com> Subject: A question on forwarding We have the following definitions in our VMSMAIL_PROFILE.DATA: MAIL> set forward/user=doe_john mx%"""""" ! not a real user MAIL> set forward/user=doe doe_john ! DOE is real Now, I have my mail transport set to MX%. Mail goes through just fine, but the recipient is seeing a differing number of Resent-* headers, depending on which of the two addresses above I use. This doesn't surprise me, but what does surprise me is which address gets the Resent-s. When I send to user DOE (which is really MX%DOE, no Resent- headers appear in the message. When I send to DOE_JOHN, which is really MX%DOE_JOHN, I get a Resent-From of doe_john@mynode and a Resent-To of doe_john@smtpgwy. Could you all explain this behavior? Thanks. -- Brian Tillman tillman_brian@si.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 04:01:21 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 10:57:25 EDT From: Gilbert.Delafosse@mx.univ-compiegne.fr Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E9C5.272F58A0.3224@MX.UNIV-COMPIEGNE.FR> Subject: RE: MX SMTP exiting Hello >>> MX SMTP (pid ...) exiting, status = 001828A >>> Is there any way to determine what this means please? Yes, $ Write sys$output f$message (%X1828A) and you will get %RMS-E-FLK, file currently locked by another user Gilbert Delafosse Service informatique Universite de Technologie de Compiegne gilbert.delafosse@mx.univ-compiegne.fr ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 04:57:31 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: "S.T.Hayes" Subject: MX address format To: MX-List@wkuvx1.wku.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 18 May 94 10:53:15 BST Message-ID: <9405181053.aa28322@uk.ac.ed.festival> Hi folks, One of the things I have found surprising about MX is that it does not accept my usual address format - namely "username" This is the format I use all the time on other machines. "user@host" is the actual address. 'username' is a comment, which indicates to whom I think I am sending the message, and indicates this both to me and to the recipient. If I attempt to use this address format with MX, it converts this to , and the remote host sensibly rejects this. I believe that the format "user@host (username)" is valid for MX, so I could use a re-write rule to correct the address format. Even here, the (username) is not transmitted with the mail message, so the recipient is not told to whom I think I am sending the message. This is only a minor irritation, but one which could possibly be fixed very simply. ! Stephen Hayes, Edinburgh University Computing Service. ! S.T.Hayes @ ed.ac.uk, Tel: 031-650 4990. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 06:34:52 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 06:34:27 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E9A0.6A732C24.9@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MX address format "S.T.Hayes" writes: > >Hi folks, > One of the things I have found surprising about MX is that >it does not accept my usual address format - namely > > "username" [...] > If I attempt to use this address format with MX, it converts this to >, and the remote host sensibly rejects this. > Correct. It's a bug in the address parsing. > I believe that the format "user@host (username)" is valid for MX, Correct. >so I could use a re-write rule to correct the address format. Even here, >the (username) is not transmitted with the mail message, so the >recipient is not told to whom I think I am sending the message. > Correct---the comments are always stripped out. > This is only a minor irritation, but one which could possibly be >fixed very simply. > I tried to fix the parsing problem in MX V4.0, but didn't get very far. The LIB$TPARSE/LIB$TABLE_PARSE tables that parse the addresses are pretty complicated---I couldn't improve on what Matt had done, just broke it. 8-) This is on my to-do list for the next version (to at least accept the address and handle it correctly). Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 06:38:20 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 06:38:06 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E9A0.ED44E412.11@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MX SMTP exiting "S.T.Hayes" writes: > > On the AXP version of MX, I occasionally get the SMTP server >disappearing. The file mx_smtp_dir:mx_smtp_fringe.log (the name >of my machine is 'fringe') says > > MX SMTP (pid ...) exiting, status = 001828A > > Is there any way to determine what this means please? > As Gilbert said: %RMS-E-FLK, file currently locked by another user >*** Processing queue entry number 4 on node FRINGE >*** Recipient: , route= >*** SMTP_SEND: looking up host name > > I am attempting to send a mail job to 'junk' for test purposes only. >I was attempting to produce some rewrite rules, as a result of problems >mentioned earlier. > It looks like the status may be coming from UCX. Maybe. In any case, your rewrite rules appears to be wrong, since you're sending just "junk" to MX SMTP, which expects to have a valid Internet-style address (user@host). I do intend to try to beef up the checks in MX SMTP---right now, it relies on MX Router to catch any bad addresses and assumes that anything that makes it through is valid. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 06:39:07 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 06:38:40 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E9A1.01103CA8.15@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Alphabetize? Why Me Buckaroo writes: > >If this is a FAQ or covered in the manual, please point me in the right >direction... > >I am interested in alphabetizing the list review's for my list managers. I >don't really want to write a routine that takes a review, removes everyone and >then resubscribes them. Has anyone solved this little item? Am I missing it >in the manual? > No, you're not missing it---there's no way to do that. I'll add it to the wish list. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 09:49:17 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 07:44:15 PST From: "Thomas E. Surber Jr. x2358" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: tsurber@ceres.gi.com Message-ID: <0097E9AA.2A9EB758.4@ceres.gi.com> Subject: Local agent exiting The "local" keeps exiting after about 10-15mins. If I start 2-3 of them, they each take about the same amount of time to die. I think I saw something about this, a few weeks about back, from someone else, what was the the out come?? This is the message I get in the Local log file. 18-MAY-1994 07:20:15.40: MX Local (pid 2DC00121) starting 18-MAY-1994 07:22:52.74: MX Local (pid 2DC00121) exiting, status = 1C278034 Background: MX4.0-1 running on an AXP installed monday (16th). $~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~$ | Thomas E. Surber Jr. | Voice: (619) 455-1500 x2358 | | General Instrument | | | VideoCipher Division | Internet: Tsurber@GI.COM | | 6262 Lusk Blvd | Local: VCA::TSURBER | | San Diego, CA 92121 | | $~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~$ Diplomacy is the art of saying "nice doggy" until you can find a rock ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 10:00:56 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 10:00:42 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E9BD.3A6AEFE5.7@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Local agent exiting "Thomas E. Surber Jr. x2358" writes: > >The "local" keeps exiting after about 10-15mins. If I start 2-3 of them, they >each take about the same amount of time to die. I think I saw something about >this, a few weeks about back, from someone else, what was the the out come?? > >This is the message I get in the Local log file. > >18-MAY-1994 07:20:15.40: MX Local (pid 2DC00121) starting >18-MAY-1994 07:22:52.74: MX Local (pid 2DC00121) exiting, status = 1C278034 > >Background: MX4.0-1 running on an AXP installed monday (16th). > AXP$ set mess mx_msg AXP$ write sys$output f$message(%XC278034) %MX-F-MEMALLOC, error allocating memory from zone !AS AXP$ This is the much-discussed-here memory leak in OpenVMS AXP V1.5H1 and the AXPSMUP02 security update. You must grab the MAILSHR.EXE file from a plain vanilla VMS V1.5 kit and use that instead. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 16:48:10 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: isenhour@fndaud (John Isenhour) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: sending to multiple users with alias Date: 18 May 1994 21:33:58 GMT Message-ID: <2re1k6$raf@fnnews.fnal.gov> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I'd like to send a message to a group of users by using one name with MX, but the user manual doesnt seem to support this with the mxalias utility. I've got multinet smtp turned off so multinet:smtp_aliases. wont work. Is there a equivalent somewhere in mx? tnx! john -- John L. Isenhour internet: isenhour@lambic.fnal.gov Library Systems, et al NASA/NSF/ES/HEP decnet: lambic::isenhour Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory bitnet: isenhour@fnlib home: john@hopduvel.chi.il.us "When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt" - Henry Kaiser ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 16:53:26 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 16:51:55 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E9F6.AD10C9AA.17@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: sending to multiple users with alias isenhour@fndaud (John Isenhour) writes: > >I'd like to send a message to a group of users by using one name with MX, but >the user manual doesnt seem to support this with the mxalias utility. I've got >multinet smtp turned off so multinet:smtp_aliases. wont work. Is there a >equivalent somewhere in mx? > Either an MX mailing list or a regular VMS Mail distribution list. Or a logical that translates to multiple users. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 18:17:43 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 16:12:14 PST From: robert@dis.ucsf.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097E9F1.21F36B20.18854@dis.ucsf.edu> Subject: RE: sending to multiple users with alias You could do it with a .DIS file. The .DIS file could call the mxaliases, i.e., a file called EVERYONE.DIS might have entries like: mx%john mx%fred If you need the .DIS file to be available globally, define a logical to call it, i.e., $ DEFINE/SYSTEM EVERYONE "@SYS$GLOBAL:EVERYONE.DIS" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Weiner Manager, Development Information Systems robert@dis.ucsf.edu University of California, San Francisco > > I'd like to send a message to a group of users by using one name with MX, but > the user manual doesnt seem to support this with the mxalias utility. I've got > multinet smtp turned off so multinet:smtp_aliases. wont work. Is there a > equivalent somewhere in mx? > > tnx! > john > > -- > John L. Isenhour internet: isenhour@lambic.fnal.gov > Library Systems, et al NASA/NSF/ES/HEP decnet: lambic::isenhour > Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory bitnet: isenhour@fnlib > home: john@hopduvel.chi.il.us > "When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt" - Henry Kaiser > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 21:19:19 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 21:57:01 -0400 (EDT) From: TAFORD@delphi.com Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Income Opportunities from Investment Banker - Interested? 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lanworks@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu, decmcc-l@auvm.american.edu, cmu-openvms-ip@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu, info-multinet@tgv.com, wintcp-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu, info-tpu@shsu.edu, vmsnet@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu Message-ID: <01HCI09PBE2A91XJQO@delphi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Please send inquiries/replies to: taford@delphi.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 01:26:08 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 22:41:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger M Kolaks Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: Income Opportunities from Investment Banker - Interested? 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hunting@tamvm1.tamu.edu, juggling@moocow.cogsci.indiana.edu, earlym-l@aearn.edvz.univie.ac.at, dead-flames@virginia.edu, synth-l@auvm.auvm.edu, phish@virginia.edu, sca@mc.lcs.mit.edu, info-hams@ucsd.edu, packet-radio@ucsd.edu, ham-policy@ucsd.edu, ultimate-list@doe.carleton.ca, golf-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu, homesat@vm1.nodak.edu, woodwork%ipfwvm@uicvm.uic.edu, fitsbits@nrao.edu, ecolog-l@umdd.umd.edu, ethology@searn.sunet.se, herp-l@xtal200.harvard.edu, hydrogen@uriacc.uri.edu, aids@rutvm1.rutgers.edu, hspnet-l%albnydh2@cunyvm.cuny.edu, physics@unix.sri.com, fusion@zorch.sf-bay.org, psyc@pucc.princeton.edu, space@uga.cc.uga.edu, space@isu.isunet.edu, stat-l@vm1.mcgill.ca, edstat-l@jse.stat.ncsu.edu, chile-l@utarlvm1.uta.edu, scj@nysernet.org, scs-l@indycms.iupui.edu, vietnet@vm.usc.edu, arms-l@buacca.bu.edu, bahai-faith@oneworld.wa.com, roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu, tps-l@indycms.iupui.edu, vmsgopher-l@trln.lib.unc.edu, macro32@wkuvx1.wku.edu, mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu, lanworks@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu, decmcc-l@auvm.american.edu, cmu-openvms-ip@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu, info-multinet@tgv.com, wintcp-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu, info-tpu@shsu.edu, vmsnet@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have never requested any information from you nor are you among my list of associates. If you contact me again I will have my attorney call your attorney concerning legal action against you. Sincerely, Roger M Kolaks On Wed, 18 May 1994 TAFORD@delphi.com wrote: > > > Please send inquiries/replies to: taford@delphi.com > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 02:46:30 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 09:41:44 EDT From: "Mario Meyer, Phys.-Techn. Bundesanstalt" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097EA83.BEEB0E00.8907@ChbRB.Berlin.PTB.De> Subject: Comment to: Income Opportunities from Investment Banker - Interested? I answered TAFORD@delphi.com with a short "No" in the mail body and will do that some more times probably. I hope if enough other list subscribers will do so too, that could help to prevent Mrs./Mr. TAFORD from repeating similar actions. --,------------------------------------------------------.------------------ | Mario Meyer Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt | . , | ............. Institut Berlin Labor 10.42 | _QQ__ | : wide area : Abbestr. 2-12, D - 10587 Berlin | __( U, )__ | : networker : tel. (+49 30) 3481 442, fax. ... 490 | /// `---' \\\ | SMTP MMeyer@ChbRB.Berlin.PTB.De, BITNET MMeyer@PTBIB | /| \ / |\ --| X.400 S=Meyer;OU=AM;OU=10-42;O=PTB;P=PTB;A=d400;C=De |------------------ `------------------------------------------------------' ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 07:44:31 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 08:39:42 EDT From: "Robin Tuttle, 862-3228" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097EA7B.14506880.24790@mentor.unh.edu> Subject: listserv problem Fellow MX Users, I am having a listserv problem after recently having upgraded my VMS 5.4-2 MicroVAX from UCX 2.0D to Multinet 3.2 and MX 3.3 to MX 4.0-1. Although everything looks okay in the MX configuration that I saved before the upgrade, I can't send mail to either mxserver or listserv. I get the following error messages: =================================================== Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 10:14:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Postmaster@wildcat.unh.edu Subject: Undeliverable Mail To: Bad address -- Error -- %MAIL-E-NOSUCHUSR, no such user MXSERVER =================================================== Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 9:00:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Postmaster@wildcat.unh.edu Subject: Undeliverable Mail To: Bad address -- Error -- %MAIL-E-NOSUCHUSR, no such user LISTSERV =================================================== Also, I can't post directly to the lists -- I get a "no such user" message back from the postmaster. I have defined an alias for listserv, and I've also made the lists non-case sensitive. The protection of the lists are such that anyone can send to them. I've pored over the installation, management, and listserv documentation without success. What am I missing? Many thanks for any advice. Robin Tuttle r_tuttle@mentor.unh.edu Computing & Information Services University of New Hampshire ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 07:50:11 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 07:49:54 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097EA74.1F34CB53.13@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: listserv problem "Robin Tuttle, 862-3228" writes: > >Fellow MX Users, > >I am having a listserv problem after recently having upgraded my VMS >5.4-2 MicroVAX from UCX 2.0D to Multinet 3.2 and MX 3.3 to MX 4.0-1. >Although everything looks okay in the MX configuration that I saved >before the upgrade, I can't send mail to either mxserver or listserv. >I get the following error messages: > >=================================================== >Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 10:14:21 -0400 (EDT) >From: Postmaster@wildcat.unh.edu >Subject: Undeliverable Mail >To: > >Bad address -- >Error -- > %MAIL-E-NOSUCHUSR, no such user MXSERVER It sounds like MultiNet's SMTP is running. MX does not use "Undeliverable mail" as a Subject:. You need to disable MultiNet's SMTP using: $ multi configure/serv SERVER-CONFIG> DISABLE SMTP SERVER-CONFIG> EXIT $ And then restart the MultiNet server with @MULTINET:START_SERVER. You can verify that MX is getting the SMTP messages by telnetting to port 25 on your system. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 08:33:03 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 15:29:56 +0100 From: mbieniec@PLUNLO51.BITNET Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097EAB4.634E5580.18887@krysia.uni.lodz.pl> Subject: SMTP exiting Hi, I have two examples of SMTP process exiting. What the reason of it may be? How to correct it? My configuration is: Microvax3300, VMS5.5, TCP/IP Services for VMS 2.0, MX 3.3, JNet 3.6, JNet TCPNJE 1.2 16-MAY-1994 16:55:55.73: MX SMTP (pid 00000B61) starting 17-MAY-1994 09:54:14.69: MX SMTP (pid 00000B61) exiting, status = 1000000C 17-MAY-1994 09:54:12.98 Processing queue entry number 11677 on node KRYSIA 17-MAY-1994 09:54:13.16 Recipient: , route=rtfm.mit. edu 17-MAY-1994 09:54:13.16 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name rtfm.mit.edu 17-MAY-1994 13:54:18.62: MX SMTP (pid 00000F6B) starting 17-MAY-1994 13:57:05.94: MX SMTP (pid 00000F6B) exiting, status = 1000000C 17-MAY-1994 13:57:00.89 Processing queue entry number 11713 on node KRYSIA 17-MAY-1994 13:57:01.22 Recipient: , route=rtfm.mit. edu 17-MAY-1994 13:57:01.22 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name rtfm.mit.edu Thanks in advance. Marian. Marian Bieniecki Solid State Physics Dpt, Univ of Lodz, Lodz, Pomorska 149/153, Poland tel. (4842)784176, (4842)782953 fax. (4842)790030 E-mail: mbieniec@plunlo51.bitnet ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 08:59:10 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 19 May 94 08:54:00 C*T From: Rick Stacks Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: Comment to: Income Opportunities from Investment Banke To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097EA7D13E9A580.20201F6A@adpce.lrk.ar.us> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT "Mario Meyer, Phys.-Techn. Bundesanstalt" writes: > >I answered TAFORD@delphi.com with a short "No" in the mail body and will do >that some more times probably. I hope if enough other list subscribers will do >so too, that could help to prevent Mrs./Mr. TAFORD from repeating similar >actions. > I went a step further because I received 3 copies (from 3 different lists) of the message... I replied including all headers and flamed the jerk for using the lists for unrelated commercial purposes. I hope everyone else does something similar -- maybe he(she?) will lose his account at delphi.com. -- Rick +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Rick Stacks, Sr. Programmer Analyst | voice: 501-570-2174 | | Ark Dept Pollution Control & Ecology | fax: 501-562-4632 | | 8001 National Dr. / POB 8913 | email: stacks@adpce.lrk.ar.us | | Little Rock, AR 72219 USA | | |--------------------------------------+-------------------------------------| |- They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety --| |- deserve neither liberty nor safety -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 --| ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 09:57:46 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: michaelb@yang.earlham.edu (Michael L. Bowden) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Rewrite rules I have a few rewrite rules defined here at Earlham. I have noticed that a rewrite only takes affect on TO: field and not FROM: field. This is not a problem for the VAXEN running MX. It is, however, a problem for our PC/MAC users running a desktop mail packages. With PMDF we were able to rewrite both incoming and outgoing messages. But now, the PC/MAC message are slipping by without being rewritten. I checked the MX documentation and it really did not say if this possible. Is it possible to rewrite a from address? If not, will it be added in the future? Michael L. Bowden michaelb@earlham.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 11:27:58 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 09:24:02 PDT From: Not An Evil Tempter Being Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: clee@madoka.intel.com Message-ID: <0097EA81.45F6EC00.5@madoka.intel.com> Subject: VMS Security MUP 3 (what are the effects) Hi, I got this tape from DEC several weeks ago with the VAX Security MUP 3 on and I've decided to see what it is. Anyway, it look like it will want to modify the MAIL image. Was wondering if anybody has installed this yet (I'm still on VMS 5.5-2) and what the side effects to MX 4.0-1 are (if any). I'm using the MX patched MAIL image and I'm more concered about keeping MX functionality then whatever the MUP 3 gives me. thx -- Cecil Lee USnail: Intel Corp, 2200 Mission College Blvd, RN3-09; Santa Clara, Ca. 95052 CLee@MADOKA.INTEL.COM UUCP : {pur-ee,qantel,amdcad,oliveb,decwrl,hplabs}!intelca!mipos3!madoka!clee Mantas _DO_ Fly ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 13:31:23 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 14:26:46 EDT From: "Robin Tuttle, 862-3228" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097EAAB.9037EB00.25159@mentor.unh.edu> Subject: RE: listserv problem Thanks for the help, Hunter. Although I'd disabled Multinet's smtp, there was still an symbiont_smtp process taking over the smtp mail queue from a former Multinet process. Once I got rid of that and deassigned any Multinet logicals referencing smtp, things were golden. Robin Tuttle r_tuttle@mentor.unh.edu Computing & Information Services University of New Hampshire ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 13:39:43 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <199405191754.AA15288@interlock.jci.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 13:37:59 -0500 (CDT) From: arlen.walker@jci.com (Arlen P. Walker) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: That Banker To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >I answered TAFORD@delphi.com with a short "No" in the mail body and will do >that some more times probably. I hope if enough other list subscribers will do >so too, that could help to prevent Mrs./Mr. TAFORD from repeating similar >actions. If I remember rightly, delphi charges the mailbox owner for mail received from the internet, so keep those cards and letters coming, folks! ;{>} Have Fun, Arlen arlen.walker@jci.com --------------------------------------------------- This mail message contains 100% recycled electrons --------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 14:39:14 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 12:35:03 -0700 From: "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: rharwood@Data.Basix.COM Message-ID: <0097EA9B.F4E221C0.5428@Data.Basix.COM> Subject: Off-topic, but hey, we're all in this together arlen.walker@jci.com (Arlen P. Walker) wrote: > >I answered TAFORD@delphi.com with a short "No" in the mail body and will do > >that some more times probably. I hope if enough other list subscribers will do > >so too, that could help to prevent Mrs./Mr. TAFORD from repeating similar > >actions. > > If I remember rightly, delphi charges the mailbox owner for mail received > from the internet, so keep those cards and letters coming, folks! ;{>} Sorry to keep this off-topic thread going, but thought it would be of interest, since we're all mostly "Internet Managers" in a sense. Here's a copy of a message I sent to TAFord@AOL.Com, and his (expectedly crass) reply: ======================================================= Message to TAFord From: RHARWOOD "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" 18-MAY-1994 20:28:44.82 To: TAFORD@DELPHI.COM Subj: Karma; or, "What goes around comes around." Well, you've succumbed to the evil "THE INTERNET IS MINE TO ABUSE" theory, and now, for every message I get from ONE mailing list, I'm sending you multiple copies from EACH of the mailing lists, just so you'll see what kind of havoc you have wrought. You might have rationalized that "Oh, I'm only sending one little itty bitty message," but look at the horrendous mail headers shown in each message. Obviously you didn't consult with the powers that be at Delphi prior to doing this mindless intrusion into people's mailboxes and system's operations, or you'd have known all the details of what to expect. I write for computer trade magazines, and I'd be interested in exchanging some information with you so I can write a WELL-INFORMED article on how the heck you decided this was okay to do. Otherwise, I'll just tell MY side of the story. ======================================================= Reply from TAFord From: MX%"TAFORD@delphi.com" 18-MAY-1994 22:49:29.08 To: RHARWOOD Subj: Re: Karma; or, "What goes around comes around." Interesting, I write for computer trade rags too! Why on earth would YOU want to clutter up the internet responding to junk like this? ======================================================= End of messages So he/she admits it was junk in the first place. What a bozo. FWIW, I also sent a message to Delphi asking what their policy was on such inappropriate postings and what form of chastisement they had in mind for the user. So far, noanswer... I really don't expect any, either. I received 3 postings of TAFord's message, and so I sent 3 copies of each message -- multiple headers included! -- back to this ^%$&^% person. If Delphi's SMTP por gets as hosed as InDirect.COM's did after the C&S Law Usenet fiasco, they'll DEVELOP a policy for dealing with them. Ray ----- Ray Harwood | Data Basix | DEC Pro Networking Editor Voice: (602)721-1988 | PO Box 18324 | "Internet Resource Guide" FAX: (602)721-7240 | Tucson, AZ 85731 | Internet training & consulting RHarwood@Data.Basix.COM | Info@Data.Basix.COM | DEC small-system management ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 14:45:16 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 14:41:39 EST From: koenig@CVAX.IPFW.INDIANA.EDU Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097EAAD.A4C374E8.95@CVAX.IPFW.INDIANA.EDU> Subject: RE: VMS Security MUP 3 (what are the effects) >From: MX%"MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU" 19-MAY-1994 11:28:36.20 >Subj: VMS Security MUP 3 (what are the effects) >Hi, > > I got this tape from DEC several weeks ago with the VAX Security MUP 3 >on and I've decided to see what it is. > > Anyway, it look like it will want to modify the MAIL image. Was >wondering if anybody has installed this yet (I'm still on VMS 5.5-2) and what >the side effects to MX 4.0-1 are (if any). It does modify MAIL. I applied the MUP3 patch last week for VMS 5.5-2 and it caused no problems whatsoever with MX 4.0-1 here. ---Greg --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Koenig koenig@cvax.ipfw.indiana.edu Systems Programmer koenig@ipfwcvax.bitnet Indiana University - Purdue University koenig@smtplink.ipfw.indiana.edu Fort Wayne, Indiana (219) 481-6031 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 03:20:24 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 10:17:00 EDT From: Gilbert.Delafosse@mx.univ-compiegne.fr Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097EB51.D64493B8.4601@MX.UNIV-COMPIEGNE.FR> Subject: RE: SMTP exiting >>> I have two examples of SMTP process exiting. >>> What the reason of it may be? >>> How to correct it? >>> My configuration is: >>> Microvax3300, >>> VMS5.5, TCP/IP Services for VMS 2.0, MX 3.3, JNet 3.6, JNet TCPNJE 1.2 >>> 16-MAY-1994 16:55:55.73: MX SMTP (pid 00000B61) starting >>> 17-MAY-1994 09:54:14.69: MX SMTP (pid 00000B61) exiting, status = 1000000C You've got an %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask= .... What is your release of UCX (2.0E is the latest one) Gilbert Delafosse Service informatique Universite de Technologie de Compiegne gilbert.delafosse@mx.univ-compiegne.fr ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 05:17:28 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 20 May 94 10:48 GMT From: Stuart Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST Subject: MX and CBS together? Does anyone in Britain using Coloured Book Software mail know whether it can co-exist happily with MX? We are connected to the Outside World via x25 line with CBS collecting our mail at this end. We have now got some (locally) connected IP machines all running SMTP, except our main x25 linked VAX. Can we also run MX's SMTP processes on this main VAX without interfering with the CBS setup? I know the two protocols are utterly different, and shouldn't confuse each other, but its best to have these worries aired... stuart@lamp.ac.uk ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 08:38:58 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 14:04:03 +0100 From: "Paul Lambert (MIS Dept)." Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097EB71.8E0A98C0.1@mis.tees.ac.uk> Subject: RE: MX and CBS together? Stuart writes: > >Does anyone in Britain using Coloured Book Software mail know whether it can >co-exist happily with MX? We are connected to the Outside World via x25 line >with CBS collecting our mail at this end. We have now got some >(locally) connected IP machines all running SMTP, except our main x25 linked >VAX. Can we also run MX's SMTP processes on this main VAX without interfering >with the CBS setup? I know the two protocols are utterly different, and >shouldn't confuse each other, but its best to have these worries aired... > >stuart@lamp.ac.uk Stuart, Yes, they will work quite hapilly together! We use both at the moment on the same machine in a vaxcluster. We are in the process of gradually weening off CBS completely. Paul. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (RFC-822: P.Lambert@mis.tees.ac.uk) Tel: +44 642 342130 (X.400: I=P;S=LAMBERT;O=TEESSIDE;OU1=MIS;P=UK.AC;C=GB) University of Teesside, MIS Department, Middlesbrough, Cleveland, TS1 3BA (UK) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 09:27:32 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: "S.T.Hayes" Subject: Re: MX and CBS together? To: MX-List@wkuvx1.wku.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 20 May 94 13:01:30 BST Message-ID: <9405201301.aa12282@uk.ac.ed.festival> > Does anyone in Britain using Coloured Book Software mail know whether it can > co-exist happily with MX? Yes, it is working fine for us. We have been running CBS for some time, and have recently installed MX. Our plan is to transfer all work over to MX in due course. The only common point I have noticed is the 'set mail forward' within VMS Mail. We have several such alias defined for incoming mail, which I presume will apply to both CBS and MX mail equally. Your NRS registration will presumably tell people in the CBS domain how to send mail to you, and your DNS MX records will contain information for machines using SMTP. ! Stephen Hayes, Edinburgh University Computing Service. ! S.T.Hayes @ ed.ac.uk, Tel: 031-650 4990. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 09:37:54 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 16:31:40 EDT From: Marian Bieniecki Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: mbieniec@mvii.uni.lodz.pl Message-ID: <0097EB86.2D5B1D00.5729@mvii.uni.lodz.pl> Subject: RE: SMTP exiting I have got an answer from Gilbert Delafosse: > >>>> I have two examples of SMTP process exiting. >>>> What the reason of it may be? >>>> How to correct it? > >>>> My configuration is: >>>> Microvax3300, >>>> VMS5.5, TCP/IP Services for VMS 2.0, MX 3.3, JNet 3.6, JNet TCPNJE 1.2 > >>>> 16-MAY-1994 16:55:55.73: MX SMTP (pid 00000B61) starting >>>> 17-MAY-1994 09:54:14.69: MX SMTP (pid 00000B61) exiting, status = 1000000C > >You've got an >%SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask= .... Yes, I know, but ... >What is your release of UCX (2.0E is the latest one) I think I have the first one from 2.0 series, it means without any letter behind. Is there any bug in it? M. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marian Bieniecki Solid State Physics Dpt, Univ of Lodz, Lodz, Pomorska 149/153, Poland tel. (4842)784176, (4842)785622 fax. (4842)790030 Email: mbieniec@mvii.uni.lodz.pl Bitnet: mbieniec@plunlo51.bitnet ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 08:32:34 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: craa79@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ( Bruce Rodger) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: MX and CBS together? Date: 23 May 1994 12:36:27 GMT Message-ID: <2rq80b$5ou@rockall.cc.strath.ac.uk> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU "Paul Lambert (MIS Dept)." writes: (about MX and CBS) > >Yes, they will work quite hapilly together! We use both at the moment on the >same machine in a vaxcluster. We are in the process of gradually weening off >CBS completely. We have a similar situation. There are some obscure problems... All our incoming mail comes via MX. Outgoing mail should go that way too, but some users still use the old CBS forms of the addresses. We've left greybook running as a short term transition aid, for users who insist on using the old CBS%-style addresses, and for remote sites who haven't updated their mail tables since we moved to MX. My original intention was to redefine CBS_MAILSHR to use MX, and use rewrite rules, but this doesn't work (if you want to know all the gory details, please get in touch). I eventually managed to get it working (with MX 3.3), but this involved hacking the source to MX_MAILSHR.... Currently, I analyse the CBS logs weekly, generate a list of all users still using CBS, and send them some hate mail :-) The problems I mentioned earlier are all to do with mail forwarding. I can't remember the exact details - but it's something like this: If a user uses SET FORWARD MX%"user@site" to redirect their mail to another system, incoming greybook mail to that user will disappear down a black hole. It's CBS's problem, not and MX problem. Unfortunately, I only realised that this happened about 2 weeks after DEC stopped supporting CBS. Not that it would have done any good - DEC's support for CBS was abysmal for the last 2 years.... Bruce. -- R.B. Rodger |R.B.Rodger@strath.ac.uk Computer Centre | The University of Strathclyde | +44 (0)41 552 4400 x3460 Glasgow G4 0LN, Scotland. | Fax 553 4100 -- R.B. Rodger |R.B.Rodger@strath.ac.uk Computer Centre | The University of Strathclyde | +44 (0)41 552 4400 x3460 Glasgow G4 0LN, Scotland. | Fax 553 4100 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 08:32:42 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: ccdarg@zippy.dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: RE: SMTP exiting Message-ID: <1994May23.140815.3967@zippy.dct.ac.uk> Date: 23 May 94 14:08:15 +0100 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0097EB86.2D5B1D00.5729@mvii.uni.lodz.pl>, Marian Bieniecki writes: > > I think I have the first one from 2.0 series, it means without > any letter behind. Is there any bug in it? Yes. Lots and lots. 3.1 has just been released so if possible I'd upgrade to that (or at least 2.0e) first and then see if the problem persists. -- Alan Greig Janet: A.Greig@uk.ac.dct University of Abertay Dundee Internet: A.Greig@dct.ac.uk Tel: (0382) 308810 Int +44 382 308810 -- Pavlov's dog: the runt of the litter? -- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 08:32:53 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: ccdarg@zippy.dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: MX and CBS together? Message-ID: <1994May23.141517.3968@zippy.dct.ac.uk> Date: 23 May 94 14:15:17 +0100 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <24542919@MVB.SAIC.COM>, Stuart writes: > Does anyone in Britain using Coloured Book Software mail know whether it can > co-exist happily with MX? We are connected to the Outside World via x25 line > with CBS collecting our mail at this end. We have now got some > (locally) connected IP machines all running SMTP, except our main x25 linked > VAX. Can we also run MX's SMTP processes on this main VAX without interfering > with the CBS setup? I know the two protocols are utterly different, and > shouldn't confuse each other, but its best to have these worries aired... There are no real problems but reply addresses can get a bit confused if someone has SET FORWARD SMTP%"""user@host.domain""" and incoming CBS mail arrives. Although as I have about 50 copies of your message either something else is wrong at your end or with the mail/news gateway. Also I run the following rewrite rules to allow people to specify a to address in the old UK ordering (eg Alan@uk.ac.dct). Cut out the following and execute it as a com file within mcp if you want: define rewrite "<{user}@uk.ac.{d1}.{d2}.{d3).{d4}>" - "<{user}@{d4}.{d3}.{d2}.{d1}.ac.uk>" define rewrite "<{user}@uk.ac.{d1}.{d2}.{d3)>" - "<{user}@{d3}.{d2}.{d1}.ac.uk>" define rewrite "<{user}@uk.ac.{d1}.{d2}>" - "<{user}@{d2}.{d1}.ac.uk>" define rewrite "<{user}@uk.ac.{d1}>" - "<{user}@{d1}.ac.uk>" define rewrite "<{user}@edu.{d1}.{d2}.{d3).{d4}>" - "<{user}@{d4}.{d3}.{d2}.{d1}.edu>" define rewrite "<{user}@edu.{d1}.{d2}.{d3)>" - "<{user}@{d3}.{d2}.{d1}.edu>" define rewrite "<{user}@edu.{d1}.{d2}>" - "<{user}@{d2}.{d1}.edu>" define rewrite "<{user}@edu.{d1}>" - "<{user}@{d1}.edu>" -- Alan Greig Janet: A.Greig@uk.ac.dct University of Abertay Dundee Internet: A.Greig@dct.ac.uk Tel: (0382) 308810 Int +44 382 308810 -- Pavlov's dog: the runt of the litter? -- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 09:43:20 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu From: michaelb@earlham.edu (Michael L. Bowden) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Rewrite rules I have a few rewrite rules defined here at Earlham. I have noticed that a rewrite only takes affect on TO: field and not FROM: field. This is not a problem for the VAXEN running MX. It is, however, a problem for our PC/MAC users running a desktop mail packages. With PMDF we were able to rewrite both incoming and outgoing messages. But now, the PC/MAC message are slipping by without being rewritten. I checked the MX documentation and it really did not say if this possible. Is it possible to rewrite a from address? If not, will it be added in the future? Michael L. Bowden michaelb@earlham.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 10:39:23 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 11:33:42 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: michaelb@earlham.edu, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0097EDB8.0CAF75E0.12035@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Rewrite rules > X-Mailer: > I have a few rewrite rules defined here at Earlham. I have noticed that a > rewrite only takes affect on TO: field and not FROM: field. This is not a > problem for the VAXEN running MX. It is, however, a problem for our PC/MAC > users running a desktop mail packages. From the header, may I presume that your "desktop mail packages" are Eudora? May I also presume that your problem is that Eudora doesn't like the MX% header on the "Reply To:" address? This is not an MX problem. It's a POP server problem. Last week I installed IUPOP3 on my VAX, and had to make the following changes: $ DIFF IUPOP3_UTILITY.C IUPOP3_UTILITY.C;1 ************ File DUB1:[TCPIP.IUPOP3.IUPOP3-CMU.SOURCE]IUPOP3_UTILITY.C;3 45 #include 46 #include ****** File DUB1:[TCPIP.IUPOP3.IUPOP3-CMU.SOURCE]IUPOP3_UTILITY.C;1 45 #include 46 #include ************ ************ File DUB1:[TCPIP.IUPOP3.IUPOP3-CMU.SOURCE]IUPOP3_UTILITY.C;3 58 #include "netcommon.h" ****** File DUB1:[TCPIP.IUPOP3.IUPOP3-CMU.SOURCE]IUPOP3_UTILITY.C;1 58 #include ************ ************ File DUB1:[TCPIP.IUPOP3.IUPOP3-CMU.SOURCE]IUPOP3_UTILITY.C;3 379 length = end - start + 1; 380 memcpy(from, start, length); 381 *(from+length) = '\0'; ****** File DUB1:[TCPIP.IUPOP3.IUPOP3-CMU.SOURCE]IUPOP3_UTILITY.C;1 379 *from = ' '; 380 length = end - start + 1; 381 memcpy(from+1, start, length); 382 *(from+length+1) = '\0'; ************ ************ File DUB1:[TCPIP.IUPOP3.IUPOP3-CMU.SOURCE]IUPOP3_UTILITY.C;3 390 if (strcmp(decnode, "xxxxxx") == 0) 391 { 392 strcat(from,"@xxxxxx.nist.gov"); 393 } 394 else ****** File DUB1:[TCPIP.IUPOP3.IUPOP3-CMU.SOURCE]IUPOP3_UTILITY.C;1 391 int count, found=FALSE;; 392 for (count=0; *cluster_nodes[count]; count++) 393 { 394 if (strcmp(decnode, cluster_nodes[count]) == 0) 395 { 396 strcat(from,"@indiana.edu"); 397 found = TRUE; 398 break; 399 } 400 } 401 if (!found) ************ ************ File DUB1:[TCPIP.IUPOP3.IUPOP3-CMU.SOURCE]IUPOP3_UTILITY.C;3 398 strcat(from,".decnet@xxxxxx.nist.gov"); ****** File DUB1:[TCPIP.IUPOP3.IUPOP3-CMU.SOURCE]IUPOP3_UTILITY.C;1 405 strcat(from,".decnet@indiana.edu"); ************ Don't forget to enable PATCH_FROM_LINE. Customize for your site as appropriate. - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 12:34:07 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 18:29:50 +0100 From: Richard Bryan Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu CC: richard@biop.ox.ac.uk Message-ID: <0097EDF2.2F0D0CB2.2@biop.ox.ac.uk> Subject: Re: MX and CBS together? MX%"craa79@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ( Bruce Rodger)" writes: > The problems I mentioned earlier are all to do with mail forwarding. I can't > remember the exact details - but it's something like this: > > If a user uses SET FORWARD MX%"user@site" to redirect their mail to > another system, incoming greybook mail to that user will disappear down a black > hole. It's CBS's problem, not and MX problem. Unfortunately, I only realised The logical Ftp$Mail_foreign needs to be set to allow CBS to forward mail --- in this case, "MX%*". I can't remember now where I found this out, nor do the CBS manuals have indices. Mind you, I don't think the final message is replyable-to, and just because I know one bit of information about CBS, don't assume I'm a fan. Like many other site, we're on the point of giving it up. Richard. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Richard Bryan | Telephone: +44 865 275389 | | Lab. of Molecular Biophysics | Janet: Richard@UK.AC.OX.BIOP | | Oxford University | Internet: Richard@biop.ox.ac.uk | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 15:19:04 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 15:15:27 CST From: hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097EDD7.06D9D600.19@uwwvax.uww.edu> Subject: disabling multinet mail Some time ago I received instructions on how to keep users from issuing the MM command and did so. It has surfaced again. How do I disable it? Lyle Hunter Computer Center University Wisconsin-Whitewater hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 15:23:20 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 15:22:59 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097EDD8.1460E196.13@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: disabling multinet mail hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu writes: > >Some time ago I received instructions on how to keep users from issuing >the MM command and did so. It has surfaced again. How do I disable it? Under MX V4.0-1, use: MCP> SET LOCAL/NOMM_DELIVER Under MX V3.3, upgrade to MX V4.0-1. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 02:42:21 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 12:05:20 -0305 From: SAEED KHADEMI Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097EE85.A2914700.67@IREARN.BITNET> Subject: QUEUE PROBLEM Dear Friends, I have problem with MX queue. MX doesn't delete FINISHED mailes, in fact it doesn't purge files. My logicals are : MX_FLQ_PURGE_WAIT "0 00:01:00" MX_FLQ_RECLAIM_WAIT "0 00:01:00" MX_FLQ_CHECK_WAIT "0 00:01:00" Because our mailing traffic is high, after some days amount of FINISHED mails goes very high ( APP. 700 file in each queue directory ) and after that LOCAL delivery doesn't work!! I have copied all queue files to another disk, and after deleting queue files, and queue control file, I have installed MX again. Now MX is delivering mailes but it doesn't purge finished files. For delivering copied queue files I have wrote a command procedure that reads these files and delivers them to LOCAL sender/reciver for thier information, and I'm sure that I need to do this work after 4 or 5 days. Please help me for fixing this problem. Many thanks in advance. Regards, Saeed. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 04:47:41 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 04:47:24 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097EE48.74C3FCE7.6@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: QUEUE PROBLEM SAEED KHADEMI writes: > >Dear Friends, > I have problem with MX queue. MX doesn't delete FINISHED mailes, >in fact it doesn't purge files. This appears to be a problem at sites with really high traffic. You've done all that I know of to do, which is set the MX_FLQ_xxx_WAIT logicals low. The next version of MX will contain an AUTOPURGE feature for FINished entries, so the FLQ Manager will no longer be needed. MX V4.1 should be released sometime in June. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 08:21:41 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: michaelb@earlham.edu (Michael L. Bowden) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: RE: QUEUE PROBLEM I am having the same problem here. One thing that I did to improve the situation, was move mail off of a high volume disk (ie. a disk that has high I/O). It seemed to help. I did notice that even though I have the FLQ_MGR running, the ROUTER is doing most of the work cleaning the queue. Michael michaelb@earlham.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 08:24:30 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 08:24:23 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097EE66.C4B3AF40.35@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: QUEUE PROBLEM michaelb@earlham.edu (Michael L. Bowden) writes: > >I am having the same problem here. One thing that I did to improve the situation, was move mail off of a high volume disk (ie. a disk that has high I/O). It seemed to help. I did notice that even though I have the FLQ_MGR running, the ROUTER is doing m > If the Router starts before the FLQ Manager, it will do the purging. And yes, moving to a dedicated disk or close to it will help.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 11:15:36 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: RE: disabling multinet mail Date: 24 May 1994 00:28:15 GMT Message-ID: <2rrhmv$aqu@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0097EDD8.1460E196.13@ALPHA.WKU.EDU>, "Hunter Goatley, WKU" writes: =hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu writes: => =>Some time ago I received instructions on how to keep users from issuing =>the MM command and did so. It has surfaced again. How do I disable it? = =Under MX V4.0-1, use: = = MCP> SET LOCAL/NOMM_DELIVER = =Under MX V3.3, upgrade to MX V4.0-1. Or, if he actually meant the question he asked (but if he did, why did he post to VMSNET.MAIL.MX rather than VMSNET.NETWORKS.TCP-IP.MULTINET?): $ TABLES = F$ELEMENT(0,";",F$SEARCH("SYS$SHARE:DCLTABLES.EXE;")) $ SET COMMAND/DELETE=MM/TABLES='TABLES'/OUTPUT='TABLES' $ INSTALL REPLACE 'TABLES' or set the protection (either via the SOGW mechanism or via an ACL) on MULTINET:MM.EXE to deny the users all access to the image. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 13:29:13 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: jbasara@vienna.itd.sterling.com (Jim Basara) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Recovering messages from queue Date: 24 May 1994 18:14:14 GMT Message-ID: <2rtg5m$11e@ssw.vienna.itd.sterling.com> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU OK, I'm new at this MX stuff and I've got a problem. Our mail front-end was forwarding messages to the wrong username on my vax. Due to another problem, to be discussed later, the messages are stuck in the SMTP queue trying to be returned to the sender. These messages are quite important and I would like to recover them. Is there any way I can do this? Problem 2: We have an internet firewall that front-ends all of our mail. Therefore, I want everything going out to be routed to this front-end. I have set the SMTP DEFAULT_ROUTER to this hostname but all the outgoing messages are stuck in the queue with "%SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE" errors. Looking at the logs, I find that MX is trying to send them to the actual host. What am I doing wrong? Also, please EMAIL responses as this is important and our news lags up to 7 days behind. thanks in advance, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Basara jbasara@vienna.itd.Sterling.COM ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 13:35:04 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 13:34:56 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097EE92.26792B62.13@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Recovering messages from queue jbasara@vienna.itd.sterling.com (Jim Basara) writes: > >OK, I'm new at this MX stuff and I've got a problem. Our mail front-end >was forwarding messages to the wrong username on my vax. Due to another >problem, to be discussed later, the messages are stuck in the SMTP queue >trying to be returned to the sender. These messages are quite important >and I would like to recover them. Is there any way I can do this? > Not if the username is wrong. You can, of course, pick the .MSG_TEXT files out of the MX_FLQ_DIR subdirectories. >We have an internet firewall that front-ends all of our mail. Therefore, >I want everything going out to be routed to this front-end. I have set the >SMTP DEFAULT_ROUTER to this hostname but all the outgoing messages are >stuck in the queue with "%SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE" errors. Looking at the >logs, I find that MX is trying to send them to the actual host. What am >I doing wrong? > You should have a PATH * SMTP/ROUTE=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx also. Sounds like you don't. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 18:36:43 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: Recovering messages from queue Date: 24 May 1994 23:26:11 GMT Message-ID: <2ru2ej$d4s@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <2rtg5m$11e@ssw.vienna.itd.sterling.com>, jbasara@vienna.itd.sterling.com (Jim Basara) writes: =OK, I'm new at this MX stuff and I've got a problem. Our mail front-end =was forwarding messages to the wrong username on my vax. Due to another =problem, to be discussed later, the messages are stuck in the SMTP queue =trying to be returned to the sender. These messages are quite important =and I would like to recover them. Is there any way I can do this? The messages will be found in the MX queue directories. The file name will be the queue entry number. The text of the message will have a file type of .MSG_TEXT. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 19:24:27 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: bg@dymaxion.ns.ca (Ben Armstrong) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: MX 3.3 outgoing SMTP halts Message-ID: <1994May24.105535.3501@dymaxion.ns.ca> Date: 24 May 94 10:55:35 AST To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Using MX 3.3 VAX with UCX, for the third time in a couple of months our outgoing SMTP mail has simply ground to a halt. Shutting down MX and starting it up again solved the problem in each case. I cannot find any indication of this problem in the release notes, but I am curious about whether or not this is a known problem and if it has been fixed in MX 4.0? Sorry I cannot provide more detail about the nature of the failure at this time. If it happens again, though, it would help if I knew what to look for. Thanks, Ben. -- Ben Armstrong, Medianet Development Group, bus: (902)422-1973 Dymaxion Research Ltd., 5515 Cogswell St., fax: (902)421-1267 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3J 1R2 Internet: BArmstrong@dymaxion.ns.ca ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 03:20:07 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 10:17:09 EDT From: Gilbert.Delafosse@mx.univ-compiegne.fr Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097EF3F.AFE3F58C.6332@MX.UNIV-COMPIEGNE.FR> Subject: RE: MX 3.3 outgoing SMTP halts Hi, >>> Using MX 3.3 VAX with UCX, for the third time in a couple of months >>> our outgoing SMTP mail has simply ground to a halt. Shutting down MX >>> and starting it up again solved the problem in each case. I cannot >>> find any indication of this problem in the release notes, but I am >>> curious about whether or not this is a known problem and if it has >>> been fixed in MX 4.0? What is your UCX release (2.0E is released on the latest CD). If you have previous version, you have to upgrade to UCX 2.0E >>> Sorry I cannot provide more detail about the nature of the failure at >>> this time. If it happens again, though, it would help if I knew what >>> to look for. - Check your MX processes (missing process ???) - Check UCX process, Gilbert Delafosse Service informatique Universite de Technologie de Compiegne gilbert.delafosse@mx.univ-compiegne.fr ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 07:29:11 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 16:50:53 -0305 From: SAEED KHADEMI Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097EF76.B10E68C0.47@IREARN.BITNET> Subject: MAILER ACCOUNT QUESTION Dear Friends, I want to ask about mailer account specification, I know that there is an example in MX INSTALLATION guide, but I want to know that if the amount of some parameters in definition of this account be different from the example, what problem may appear? My question comes from, my problem with local delivery. Many mails are in READY state in queue, but MX doesn't deliver them to local users. I have checked all configuration parameters, also I reinstalled MX, but after sometimes, MX stops local delivery ( LOCAL agent is active, but it seems it is doing nothing ). When I use MONITOR SYSTEM command, I see that MX_ROUTER and MX_JNET_INTERFACE take most of system I/O. Any comment? Regards, Saeed. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 12:27:59 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 19:24:48 +0200 From: Gunnar Holm Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: holm@kontest.lagcr.se Message-ID: <0097EF8C.312E8020.1@kontest.lagcr.se> Subject: NETLIB Daemons Hi everyone ! Knowing this is not the right forum, except all NETLIB experts probably are here ! Does anyone of you know if there is a NETLIB or CMUIP compatible REXECD or RSHD available for VMS ? The reason i ask is because my X-terminal ( EXCEED ) can only connect to IP hosts that way. Best regards from early summer Sweden !!! Gunnar Holm ******************************************************************************* Email: holm@kontest.lagcr.se Gunnar Holm PSI-Mail: 024037121265::HOLM Lagercrantz KonTest AB Phone: +46 8 626 06 36 Oper: 626 06 20 Box 986 Fax: +46 8 754 88 67 S-191 29 SOLLENTUNA Mobile: +46 10 673 28 15 SWEDEN ******************************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 12:58:34 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 13:56:36 EDT From: hone@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097EF5E.57C4F940.28106@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu> Subject: How to recieve listserv archive I have created a listserv and it is working just fine. I would like to tell our users that there are archive files that can be requested. How is this accomplished? I have tried to setup a fileserv and use the SENDME command with no positive results. Suggestions will be appreciated. $ mcp show list women-net Mailing lists: Name: women-net Owner: "huge@OUVAXA.CATS.OHIOU.EDU" Reply-to: List, NOSender Archive: DISK21:[MX.MLF.FILE_SERVERS.WOMEN-NET-ARCHIVE] Add message: WOMEN-NET_ADD_MESSAGE.TXT Description: Women's Network Errors-to: huge@OUVAXA.CATS.OHIOU.EDU Strip header: NOReceived Private list: No Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RWED,WORLD:E) $ dir disk21:[mx.mlf.file_servers.women-net-archive] Directory DISK21:[MX.MLF.FILE_SERVERS.WOMEN-NET-ARCHIVE] WOMEN-NET.1994-05;1 Total of 1 file. $ mcp show file women-net-archive File servers: Name: women-net-archive, Manager: huge@OUVAXA.CATS.OHIOU.EDU Root: DISK21:[MX.MLF.FILE_SERVERS.WOMEN-NET-ARCHIVE.] Linked to mailing list: women-net Delay threshold: 0 Send period: 17:00 - 08:00 Daily limits: Server: 0 Host: 0 User: 0 ----- Don Hone, VMS system mgr Ohio University, Athens, OH ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 15:24:26 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 16:18:58 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: saeed@IREARN.BITNET, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0097EF72.3B450BC0.12268@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: MAILER ACCOUNT QUESTION > My question comes from, my problem with local delivery. Many mails are > in READY state in queue, but MX doesn't deliver them to local users. I > have checked all configuration parameters, also I reinstalled MX, but > after sometimes, MX stops local delivery ( LOCAL agent is active, but > it seems it is doing nothing ). When I use MONITOR SYSTEM command, I see > that MX_ROUTER and MX_JNET_INTERFACE take most of system I/O. > Any comments? Have you enabled error logging for all MX agents? What do the error logs say is the problem? - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 15:31:32 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 16:25:58 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: holm@kontest.lagcr.se, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0097EF73.35F47600.12272@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: NETLIB Daemons > Knowing this is not the right forum, except all NETLIB experts > probably are here ! Try also: CMU-OpenVMS-IP@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU which is: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.cmu-tek > Does anyone of you know if there is a NETLIB or CMUIP compatible > REXECD or RSHD available for VMS ? They don't exist. > The reason i ask is because my X-terminal ( EXCEED ) can only connect > to IP hosts that way. Is there a terminal with Telnet capabililty nearby? Telnet to the VAX and start the X session from there. - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 06:08:17 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 13:04:19 WET From: Gilbert.Delafosse@mx.univ-compiegne.fr Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097F020.3476F9C6.7244@mx.univ-compiegne.fr> Subject: MX vs DECNet OSI 5.7 Hi, Is there any restriction/known problem using MX wth DECnet OSI 5.7 Gilbert Delafosse Service informatique Universite de Technologie de Compiegne gilbert.delafosse@mx.univ-compiegne.fr ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 06:28:21 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 06:28:11 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097EFE8.DDCC872B.5@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: How to recieve listserv archive hone@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu writes: > >I have created a listserv and it is working just fine. I would like >to tell our users that there are archive files that can be requested. >How is this accomplished? I have tried to setup a fileserv and use >the SENDME command with no positive results. Suggestions will be >appreciated. > Try enabling MLF debugging to see what the log file shows: $ define/sys/exec mx_mlf_debug true Log files will be created in MX_MLF_DIR:. > Linked to mailing list: women-net Also, mail from users will have to match the case of their entries in the subscription list.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 06:57:13 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 06:57:03 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097EFEC.E5D4DD61.7@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MX vs DECNet OSI 5.7 Gilbert.Delafosse@mx.univ-compiegne.fr writes: > >Hi, > >Is there any restriction/known problem using MX wth DECnet OSI 5.7 > As far as I know, no one has run MX under DECnet OSI yet, but, from what I know about OSI, which is not much, I don't expect that there'll be problems. Let me know if you do! Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 07:51:04 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 14:48:21 +0100 From: Juan Altmayer Pizzorno Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097F02E.BCDA7780.6@vms.gmd.de> Subject: RE: MX vs DECNet OSI 5.7 >>Is there any restriction/known problem using MX wth DECnet OSI 5.7 >> >As far as I know, no one has run MX under DECnet OSI yet, but, from >what I know about OSI, which is not much, I don't expect that there'll >be problems. Let me know if you do! We're just upgrading our cluster to DECnet/OSI 5.7. I haven't got to MX yet (we have other -- name server -- problems), but I expect no problems as long as you define the "session control applications" (objects in Phase IV) appropriately. .. Juan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 09:41:52 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: MXserver maintenance aids Message-ID: <1994May26.085440@lucy.merrimack.edu> From: rand@lucy.merrimack.edu () Date: Thu, 26 May 94 08:54:40 EST Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Has anyone developed any mailing list management aids? The lists I manage only have a couple hundred subscribers but, damn, a dozen of them drop off the face of the planet every day. It's kind of tedious to: - scan the message to see what list is involved - look up the REAL subscriber's address in the list - send a remove/nonotify message to -request - delete the message and all subsequent ones for the user It would be pretty cool to foward list-owner mail to a site agent that did what it could to handle the situation and then only mail messages it can't resolve to the list-owner. The owner could also forward messages mailed to the list (insead of -request) of the SUB/UNSUB variety to the site agent for processing. On a related side note, has anyone seen a VMS/UCX port of vrfy? Vrfy takes a mail address and tries to see if it's good or not (chasing down MX records and querying smtp servers). It would aid in proactively removing bad addresses from lists. cheers, rand -- Rand P. Hall, Manager of Systems and Networking Merrimack College, North Andover, MA, USA rand@merrimack.edu Hope's not in Arkansas, it's in 96. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 09:45:29 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 09:45:19 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: rand@lucy.merrimack.edu Message-ID: <0097F004.67BCFE96.1@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MXserver maintenance aids rand@lucy.merrimack.edu () writes: > >Has anyone developed any mailing list management aids? The lists I >manage only have a couple hundred subscribers but, damn, a dozen of them >drop off the face of the planet every day. It's kind of tedious to: > If you have MX V4.0-1 and installed the CONTRIB files, take a look at Dan Wing's MLF_MAINT.ZIP. Not exactly what you asked for, but still handy. You can also get it from ftp.spc.edu in [.MX.CONTRIB] and from ftp.wku.edu in the same directory. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 11:54:46 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 17:51:16 BST From: "John Hill, Cavendish Lab, Cambridge Univ. (0223-337243)" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097F048.4ACE0C79.13096@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> Subject: RE: MX vs DECnet/OSI V5.7 >>>Is there any restriction/known problem using MX wth DECnet OSI 5.7 >>> >>As far as I know, no one has run MX under DECnet OSI yet, but, from >>what I know about OSI, which is not much, I don't expect that there'll >>be problems. Let me know if you do! > >We're just upgrading our cluster to DECnet/OSI 5.7. I haven't got to >MX yet (we have other -- name server -- problems), but I expect no >problems as long as you define the "session control applications" >(objects in Phase IV) appropriately. > >.. Juan We've been running a mixed VMScluster with DECNET/OSI V5.6B on the VAX side and DECNET/OSI V2.0A on the AXP nodes, using MX over UCX for several months now without any (MX-related!!) problems. DECNET/OSI V5.7 is functionally almost identical to V5.6, so I don't see extra problems arising. We don't use MX over DECnet, so I can't comment on whether it works OK, but all experience I've had with converting Phase IV objects into session control applications suggests it should be OK. Regards, John Hill ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 22:56:50 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: henderson@mln.com (Javier Henderson) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Problems with MX and UUCP Message-ID: <1994May26.204350.226@mln> Date: 26 May 94 20:43:50 PDT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hello, good people, My configuration is as follows: VAXStation 3100 OpenVMS 5.5-2HW Pathway 1.1.1 MX 4.01 UUCP 2.0 Here's what I get when I try to send mail to a uucp site: From: MX%"Postmaster@mln.mln.com" 26-MAY-1994 13:57:36.21 To: MX%"henderson@mln.mln.com" CC: Subj: UUCP delivery error Return-Path: <> Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 13:57:31 PDT From: Local delivery agent To: Subject: UUCP delivery error X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:" Note: this message was generated automatically. An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. --> Error description: Error-For: ""@mln.mln.com Error-Code: 2 Error-Text: Error in delivery to user Message number 007E81D4 Error-End: 1 error detected ------------------------------ Rejected message ------------------------------ Received: by mln.mln.com (MX V4.0-1 VAX) id 5; Thu, 26 May 1994 13:57:15 PDT Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 13:57:14 PDT From: Javier Henderson To: jav@crash.uucp Message-ID: <0097F027.98F9AF40.5@mln.mln.com> Subject: test it won't work And here's the log file: 26-MAY-1994 13:57:17.47 Processing queue entry number 6. 26-MAY-1994 13:57:18.49 DELIVER: Delivering to "jav@crash.uucp" 26-MAY-1994 13:57:18.49 DELIVER_FILE: Command: MAIL/PROTOCOL=UUCP_MAILSHR MX_UUCP_20200782.TMP;1 "jav@crash.uucp" 26-MAY-1994 13:57:31.03 DELIVER_FILE: Subprocess says: MAIL/PROTOCOL=UUCP_MAILSHR MX_UUCP_20200782.TMP;1 "jav@crash.uucp" 26-MAY-1994 13:57:31.03 DELIVER_FILE: Subprocess says: %MAIL-F-ERRACTRNS, error activating transport !AS 26-MAY-1994 13:57:31.49 DELIVER_FILE: Subprocess says: WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$FAO("EXIT:!XL",F$INTEGER($STATUS)) 26-MAY-1994 13:57:31.51 DELIVER_FILE: Subprocess says: EXIT:107E81D4 I can send mail if I use uucp% instead of mx% to address the message. Any ideas? -- Javier Henderson (JH21) henderson@mln.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 22:50:00 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 21:44:43 EDT From: Ask me about Star Stare '94 Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu CC: m_frazier@borgil.cxo.dec.com Message-ID: <0097F2C4.66DD4CC0.5@borgil.cxo.dec.com> Subject: MODIFY LIST listname/HELP_MESSAGE??? Hi, I've been playing around with MX and absolutely love it (especially with the Mail and File server stuff). Now that I'm trying to customize my listserver's messages I have noticed that I can specify /ADD, /FORWARD, and /REMOVE so that the messages are specific for my mailing list, but I can't specify /HELP to modify the default HELP text. The reason for this, is that I would like to inform the user through the LISTSERV Help that how to get to ARCHIVE stuff (my ADD message does this, but a few users don't seem to keep this message around). Is there a way to do this, and I'm just missing it? Thanks, and keep up the good work. BTW: Has MX been tested on UCX 3.1 (that just started shipping)? Mike _____________________________________________________________________________ / Mike Frazier (NAR #55180) | If you can't see the sucker when you sit down at\ | Digital Equipment Corp. | the table, then odds are that the sucker is you!| | OLTP Expertise Center | | | Colorado Springs, Colorado| - An old poker joke - | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| \ Email Address: m_frazier@borgil.cxo.dec.com / ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 23:00:08 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 22:59:57 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097F2CE.E9527702.5@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MODIFY LIST listname/HELP_MESSAGE??? Ask me about Star Stare '94 writes: > > I've been playing around with MX and absolutely love it (especially > with the Mail and File server stuff). > Great! > Now that I'm trying to customize my listserver's messages I have > noticed that I can specify /ADD, /FORWARD, and /REMOVE so that the > messages are specific for my mailing list, but I can't specify /HELP to > modify the default HELP text. The reason for this, is that I would > like to inform the user through the LISTSERV Help that how to get to > ARCHIVE stuff (my ADD message does this, but a few users don't seem to > keep this message around). Is there a way to do this, and I'm just > missing it? > Just edit the help file, MX_MLIST_DIR:MLIST_HELP.TXT. > Thanks, and keep up the good work. > > BTW: Has MX been tested on UCX 3.1 (that just started shipping)? > Yes, on both VAX and AXP. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 01:38:34 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 00:32:06 EDT From: Ask me about Star Stare '94 Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: m_frazier@borgil.cxo.dec.com Message-ID: <0097F2DB.C90AD900.3@borgil.cxo.dec.com> Subject: RE: MODIFY LIST listname/HELP_MESSAGE??? |>Just edit the help file, MX_MLIST_DIR:MLIST_HELP.TXT. Thanks for the quick response (didn't expect an answer this late at night on a holiday weekend ;^). Ok, maybe I didn't specify that I'd like to customize it for multiple lists (ie: it should say different things for different lists). My understanding is that the MLIST_HELP.TXT file is used by ALL lists, so I'm needing a way to have a customized version for different lists. Mike ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 03:56:39 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 03:56:28 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097F2F8.55A624CA.9@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MODIFY LIST listname/HELP_MESSAGE??? Ask me about Star Stare '94 writes: > >|>Just edit the help file, MX_MLIST_DIR:MLIST_HELP.TXT. > > Thanks for the quick response (didn't expect an answer this late at > night on a holiday weekend ;^). > Sad, isn't it? ;-) > Ok, maybe I didn't specify that I'd like to customize it for multiple > lists (ie: it should say different things for different lists). My > understanding is that the MLIST_HELP.TXT file is used by ALL lists, so > I'm needing a way to have a customized version for different lists. > I wondered if that's what you wanted. You are correct---the MLIST_HELP.TXT is returned for all lists. There's nothing in place to have a different file for each list (MXserver, of course, doesn't know anything about a list when it gets HELP, though the -request address *could* know....). Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 17:54:51 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 07:35:19 JST From: Tim Burress Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097F3E0.12CA9800.38@tanuki.twics.com> Subject: MX 4.0-1 SMTP Agent Hangs on Outbound Binary Files? We're seeing an odd problem here. Someone tried to mail a straight binary file (an Macintosh SEA archive) to Compuserve, and it caused the SMTP agent to hang in an LEF state. The partial transcript looks like this: ----- Rcvd: 220-dub-img-1.compuserve.com Sendmail (it's not just for breakfast anymore) 8.6.4/5.940406sam ready for love at Mon, 30 May 1994 13:14:58 -0400 Rcvd: 220 ESMTP spoken here Sent: HELO tanuki.twics.com Rcvd: 250 dub-img-1.compuserve.com Hello tanuki.twics.com [192.135.222.3], pleased to meet you Sent: MAIL FROM: Rcvd: 250 ... Sender ok Sent: RCPT TO:<100206.2157@compuserve.com> Rcvd: 250 <100206.2157@compuserve.com>... Recipient ok Sent: DATA Rcvd: 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself ----- after which SMTP stops processing outgoing mail. Is this a general problem with binary files, or something specific to this particular one? I've never seen this before, and people here try to send all kinds of stuff. This particular file is quite large, about 3700 blocks. We didn't have debugging turned on, but do now, and I'll see if that turns up anything. Otherwise, we have the queue entries for the message (it sure isn't going anywhere) if that would help. Any ideas? Tim ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 19:29:22 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 18:24:09 EDT From: Ask me about Star Stare '94 Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: m_frazier@borgil.cxo.dec.com Message-ID: <0097F371.8C3D7140.3@borgil.cxo.dec.com> Subject: RE: MODIFY LIST listname/HELP_MESSAGE??? |>> Ok, maybe I didn't specify that I'd like to customize it for multiple |>> lists (ie: it should say different things for different lists). My |>> understanding is that the MLIST_HELP.TXT file is used by ALL lists, so |>> I'm needing a way to have a customized version for different lists. |>> |>I wondered if that's what you wanted. You are correct---the |>MLIST_HELP.TXT is returned for all lists. There's nothing in place to |>have a different file for each list (MXserver, of course, doesn't know |>anything about a list when it gets HELP, though the -request address |>*could* know....). I'd like to formally ask that this be added to the "wishlist" for a "future version" of MX. It should be a /HELP_MESSAGE that the list-REQUEST function would know about (or the MXserver could know if HELP Listname was specified, otherwise if no listname, then the default file in MX_MLF_DIR). I'm sure its just a couple of lines of code for you to change ;^) (Boy, do I hear that a lot...) Mike ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 00:12:08 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: brockie@golem.wcc.govt.nz (Roger Brockie) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: MX local dies on MX 4.0-1 system Date: 31 May 1994 16:20:36 +1200 Message-ID: <2seduk$e1l@golem.wcc.govt.nz> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I'm having trouble with the MX Local process dying after a variable amount of time from 5 minutes to a couple of hours, possibly related to the number of messages processed (?). The logfile contains the following: 27-MAY-1994 12:09:53.48: MX Local (pid 2C800225) starting 27-MAY-1994 14:47:29.79: MX Local (pid 2C800225) exiting, status = 1C088024 Turning on debug mode by defining the mx_local_debug does not produce anything deifferent. I havn't been able to find what an error 1C088024 is. Anyone have any ideas ? Roger -- brockie@golem.wcc.govt.nz ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 02:28:09 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 08:50:43 +0200 From: Herve Gilibert -CRITeR- Universite de St Etienne Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097F3EA.9B7D9BD4.3@stroph.univ-st-etienne.fr> Subject: MIME QP characters. Hi ! Is there a way to have MIME Quoted Printable Characters to be AUTOMATICALLY decoded (to ISO-LATIN-1) even if the header does not specify Application/VMS-RMS I am using MX 4.0-1. Thanks in advance. -- Herve GILIBERT UUUU UUUU CRITeR UUUU UUUU Universite Jean Monnet St-Etienne UUUU UUUU 23, Rue du Dr. P. Michelon UUUU UUUU 42023 ST ETIENNE Cedex 2 UUUU UUUU Tel : 33 77 42 15 79 UUUU UUUU Fax : 33 77 42 15 75 UUUUUUUUUUU RFC822: gilibert@univ-st-etienne.fr UUUUUUUUU ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 06:21:09 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 05:16:36 EDT From: Ask me about Star Stare '94 Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: m_frazier@borgil.cxo.dec.com Message-ID: <0097F3CC.B217EF20.3@borgil.cxo.dec.com> Subject: RE: MX local dies on MX 4.0-1 system |>I havn't been able to find what an error 1C088024 is. Anyone have any ideas ? Here is a program (after my .sig) that I use to find error messages (in case you don't have this). Just set a symbol up called GETERR to @ this command procedure and then you can just do a GETERR num, where num is the hex error number. Hope this helps... Mike _____________________________________________________________________________ / Mike Frazier (NAR #55180) | If you can't see the sucker when you sit down at\ | Digital Equipment Corp. | the table, then odds are that the sucker is you!| | OLTP Expertise Center | | | Colorado Springs, Colorado| - An old poker joke - | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| \ Email Address: m_frazier@borgil.cxo.dec.com / ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------CUT HERE---------------------------------- $ VERIFICATION = 'F$VERIFICATION(0)' ! 'F$VERIFICATION(DEBUG_COM)' $ $! Looks up messages $ $ MES_TXT := 'P1' $ $GET_MES: $ RADIX = "" $ IF MES_TXT .NES. "" THEN GOTO GOT_MES $ INQUIRE MES_TXT "Message number to find" $ GOTO GET_MES $ $BAD_NUM: $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "" $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "Number is NOT a valid HEX number - ''MES_TXT'" $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "" $ MES_TXT = "" $ GOTO GET_MES $ $GOT_MES: $ TLEN = F$LENGTH(MES_TXT) $ DOT = F$LOCATE(".",MES_TXT) $ IF DOT .NE. TLEN THEN RADIX = "D" $ OCT = F$LOCATE("O",MES_TXT) $ IF OCT .NE. TLEN THEN RADIX = "O" $ HEX = F$LOCATE("X",MES_TXT) $ IF HEX .NE. TLEN THEN RADIX = "X" $!!$ TLEN = TLEN - 1 $!!$ IF RADIX .NES. "" THEN MES_TXT = F$EXTRACT(0,TLEN,MES_TXT) $ IF RADIX .EQS. "" THEN RADIX = "X" $ $GET_NUM: $ mes_txt = mes_txt - radix - "%" $ MES = %'RADIX''MES_TXT' $ IF $STATUS .NE. %X30001 THEN GOTO BAD_NUM $ XMES = F$FAO("!XL",MES) $ OMES = F$FAO("!OL",MES) $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "" $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT - "Looking up message number ''MES'. - ''XMES' (HEX) ''OMES' (8)" $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "" $ $ ON CONTROL_Y THEN GOTO DONE $ FOUND = 0 $ $ TEXT = F$MESSAGE(MES) $ LN = F$LEN( TEXT ) $ IF 'F$LOCATE("%NONAME",TEXT)' .NE. LN THEN GOTO NEXT_FILE $ IF 'F$LOCATE("NOMSG",TEXT)' .NE. LN THEN GOTO NEXT_FILE $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "''TEXT'" $ FOUND = 1 $ GOTO DONE $ $BAD_MES_FILE: $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "Error occured setting up message file ''FILE'" $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "Continuing....." $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "" $ $NEXT_FILE: $ FILE = F$SEARCH("SYS$MESSAGE:''P2'*.EXE;0") $ IF FILE .EQS. "" THEN GOTO DONE $ ON WARNING THEN GOTO BAD_MES_FILE $ SET MESSAGE 'FILE' $ TEXT = F$MESSAGE(MES) $ LN = F$LEN( TEXT ) $ IF 'F$LOCATE("%NONAME",TEXT)' .NE. LN THEN GOTO NEXT_FILE $ IF 'F$LOCATE("NOMSG",TEXT)' .NE. LN THEN GOTO NEXT_FILE $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "''TEXT'" $ FOUND = 1 $ SET MESSAGE/DELETE $ $DONE: $ IF FOUND .EQ. 0 THEN WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "%Message NOT found." $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "" $ $ VERIFICATION = (1 - 'VERIFICATION') * 2 $ SET 'F$EXTRACT(0,VERIFICATION,"NO")'VERIFY ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 07:45:38 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: daveh@vax.oxford.ac.uk (Dave Hastings, OUCS) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: MX local dies on MX 4.0-1 system Message-ID: <1994May31.132133.23314@oxvaxd> Date: 31 May 94 13:21:33 BST To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <2seduk$e1l@golem.wcc.govt.nz>, brockie@golem.wcc.govt.nz (Roger Brockie) writes: > I'm having trouble with the MX Local process dying after a variable amount > of time from 5 minutes to a couple of hours, possibly related to the number > of messages processed (?). > > The logfile contains the following: > > 27-MAY-1994 12:09:53.48: MX Local (pid 2C800225) starting > 27-MAY-1994 14:47:29.79: MX Local (pid 2C800225) exiting, status = 1C088024 > > Turning on debug mode by defining the mx_local_debug does not produce anything > deifferent. > > I havn't been able to find what an error 1C088024 is. Anyone have any ideas ? > > Roger > -- > brockie@golem.wcc.govt.nz Probably a queue corruption. Try building a new queue file. Dave -- David Hastings | "There's nothing wrong with my sense VAX Systems Programmer | of reality - I have it thoroughly Oxford University Computing Services| serviced once a fortnight" - DNA daveh@vax.oxford.ac.uk | ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 08:35:11 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 20:17:50 -0700 From: "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST%WKUVX1.BITNET@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU CC: rharwood@Data.Basix.COM Message-ID: <0097F381.6DEF7750.13749@Data.Basix.COM> Subject: Thanks... and a Question Just wanted to point out that today -- on East.Pima.EDU -- I replaced UCX with MultiNet and installed MX040 on top of MX033, all without a hitch (except my own fumble-fingers) and almost simultaneously (MX, then Multinet, then reboot, and Voila!). One question, though: Should I immediately install the MX_REV1_UPGRADE, or does the MX040 have this built into it already? (Sorry, but if this was announced along the way, it slipped by me!) Thanks for your hard work, Hunter! (Any anyone else who helped.) Ray ----- Ray Harwood | Data Basix | DEC Pro Networking Editor Voice: (602)721-1988 | PO Box 18324 | "Internet Resource Guide" FAX: (602)721-7240 | Tucson, AZ 85731 | Internet training & consulting RHarwood@Data.Basix.COM | Info@Data.Basix.COM | DEC small-system management ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 08:45:12 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 09:11:35 EDT From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: WKUVX1.WKU.EDU!mx-list@esseye.si.com Message-ID: <0097F3ED.85513700.18088@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: MODIFY LIST listname/HELP_MESSAGE??? > I've been playing around with MX and absolutely love it (especially > with the Mail and File server stuff). > >/ Mike Frazier (NAR #55180) | If you can't see the sucker when you sit down at\ >| Digital Equipment Corp. | the table, then odds are that the sucker is you!| >| OLTP Expertise Center | | >| Colorado Springs, Colorado| - An old poker joke - | >|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| >\ Email Address: m_frazier@borgil.cxo.dec.com / > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Notice one great part of this? The poster works for _Digital_. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- Brian Tillman | Internet: tillman@swdev.si.com Smiths Industries, Inc. | tillman_brian@si.com 4141 Eastern Ave., MS129 | Hey, I said this stuff myself. Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 09:58:46 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 10:55:14 EDT From: Mighty Firebreather Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: CMU-OpenVMS-IP@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu, MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097F3FC.00AF36A0.12621@nscvax.princeton.edu> Subject: Farewell This is my last day at Princeton. I will be sending an UNSUBSCRIBE shortly. NSCVAX will forward my mail as long as it lasts. (Don't count on its lasting, it's not being maintained and there's no money to fix it when it breaks.) You may send mail to me at 76702.1567@CompuServe.COM. I can still use job leads and/or offers since I'm joining the ranks of the unemployed. I'm particularly interested in positions in central New Jersey and eastern Pennsylvania. It's been fun. Good bye and good luck to all of you. -- ************************************************************************* * Here, there be dragons! * * dragon@nscvax.princeton.edu * * * * I'm job hunting. Any offers or leads will be appreciated. * * Thanks! * * Richard B. Gilbert * ************************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 10:13:19 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 10:12:53 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097F3F6.159BAD42.24@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Thanks... and a Question "Ray Harwood -- Data Basix: (602)721-1988" writes: > >Just wanted to point out that today -- on East.Pima.EDU -- I replaced UCX with >MultiNet and installed MX040 on top of MX033, all without a hitch (except my >own fumble-fingers) and almost simultaneously (MX, then Multinet, then reboot, >and Voila!). > >One question, though: Should I immediately install the MX_REV1_UPGRADE, or >does the MX040 have this built into it already? (Sorry, but if this was >announced along the way, it slipped by me!) > If you picked up MX040.ZIP when the upgrade was there, then no. MX040.ZIP, as of 11-APR-1994, was really MX V4.0-1. You can check to be sure by using MCP SHOW VERSION. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 10:13:30 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: m_frazier@borgil.enet.dec.com (Ask me about Star Stare '94) Subject: RE: MODIFY LIST listname/HELP_MESSAGE??? Date: 31 May 1994 14:43:26 GMT Message-ID: <2sfiee$ave@netnews.alf.dec.com> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0097F3ED.85513700.18088@swdev.si.com>, "Brian Tillman" writes: |> |>Notice one great part of this? The poster works for _Digital_. Well, MX seemed to be the easiest choice for me to get a listserv going (I was writing one in DELIVER, and was tired of reinventing the wheel). After putting MX on one of our lab systems to play with the listserver, and getting it configured, I promptly disabled SMTP on my workstation and placed MX on my workstation too ;^). Hey, I'll admit when I see something good (Just remember that my comments are purely mine, and not represenative of Digital). I do have some friends that support UCX, and was yanking their chain a little about MX ;^) -- _____________________________________________________________________________ / Mike Frazier (NAR #55180) | If you can't see the sucker when you sit down at\ | Digital Equipment Corp. | the table, then odds are that the sucker is you!| | OLTP Expertise Center | | | Colorado Springs, Colorado| - An old poker joke - | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| \ Email Address: m_frazier@borgil.cxo.dec.com / ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 10:18:37 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 10:18:23 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097F3F6.DA7FC3E6.5@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MIME QP characters. Herve Gilibert -CRITeR- Universite de St Etienne writes: > >Hi ! >Is there a way to have MIME Quoted Printable Characters to be AUTOMATICALLY >decoded (to ISO-LATIN-1) even if the header does not specify Application/VMS-RMS >I am using MX 4.0-1. MX V4.0-1 will automatically decode MIME Quoted-Printable if the headers say that's what it is. Application/VMS-RMS applies only to binaries, not quoted-printable. Specifically, the following headers must be present: Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN[...] Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 10:34:55 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 17:32:37 +0200 From: Herve Gilibert -CRITeR- Universite de St Etienne Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097F433.83EE6CD4.1@stroph.univ-st-etienne.fr> Subject: RE: MIME QP characters. > > MX V4.0-1 will automatically decode MIME Quoted-Printable if the > headers say that's what it is. Application/VMS-RMS applies only to > binaries, not quoted-printable. Specifically, the following headers > must be present: > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN[...] > Effectively those headers were lacking. Thanks again to Matt and you for this great software. -- Herve GILIBERT UUUU UUUU CRITeR UUUU UUUU Universite Jean Monnet St-Etienne UUUU UUUU 23, Rue du Dr. P. Michelon UUUU UUUU 42023 ST ETIENNE Cedex 2 UUUU UUUU Tel : 33 77 42 15 79 UUUU UUUU Fax : 33 77 42 15 75 UUUUUUUUUUU RFC822: gilibert@univ-st-etienne.fr UUUUUUUUU ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 10:45:17 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: ccdarg@zippy.dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: RE: MODIFY LIST listname/HELP_MESSAGE??? Message-ID: <1994May31.162809.4362@zippy.dct.ac.uk> Date: 31 May 94 16:28:09 +0100 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <2sfiee$ave@netnews.alf.dec.com>, m_frazier@borgil.enet.dec.com (Ask me about Star Stare '94) writes: > In article <0097F3ED.85513700.18088@swdev.si.com>, "Brian Tillman" writes: > |> > |>Notice one great part of this? The poster works for _Digital_. > > Well, MX seemed to be the easiest choice for me to get a listserv going (I > was writing one in DELIVER, and was tired of reinventing the wheel). After > putting MX on one of our lab systems to play with the listserver, and getting > it configured, I promptly disabled SMTP on my workstation and placed MX on my > workstation too ;^). Hey, I'll admit when I see something good (Just remember > that my comments are purely mine, and not represenative of Digital). And in fact I noticed recently there's a copy of MX on gatekeeper.dec.com although it's a rather old version. > > I do have some friends that support UCX, and was yanking their chain a little > about MX ;^) Well I suppose the UCX team started late ;-) Incidentally if you want to have a look at an alternative ftp client/server from the same source I'd suggest you get hold of MadGoat ftp as well. Supports anonymous ftp too. -- Alan Greig Janet: A.Greig@uk.ac.dct University of Abertay Dundee Internet: A.Greig@dct.ac.uk Tel: (0382) 308810 Int +44 382 308810 -- Pavlov's dog: the runt of the litter? -- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 10:47:25 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 10:47:09 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097F3FA.DF0DAA64.6@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MODIFY LIST listname/HELP_MESSAGE??? ccdarg@zippy.dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig) writes: > >And in fact I noticed recently there's a copy of MX on gatekeeper.dec.com >although it's a rather old version. > Actually, it's current now. I asked them to update it a few weeks ago. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 12:46:47 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: dpm@access1.digex.net (David P. Murphy) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: error installing MX V4.0-1 AXP Date: 31 May 1994 13:36:31 -0400 Message-ID: To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU FTPed MX040.ZIP from ftp.spc.edu and invoked VMSINSTAL; everything went fine (asked for UCX and MULTINET support, took defaults for most prompts) until > MX Message Queue Creation > ------------------------- > > The MX message queue file will be created now. > > Defining MX logicals and installing images.... > >%MCP-I-QNEWQFL, creating new system message queue file for 5000 entries.... >%MCP-E-QCVTFAIL, error creating new system message queue >-RMS-F-ISI, invalid internal stream identifier (ISI) value > > An error occurred creating the MX queue file. Please correct > the problem and use MCP QUEUE CREATE to create the queue. > > > Installation of MX V4.0 completed at 12:55 i regret to report that i have no CONFIG file, no Hot Idea on what to fix, and no time to hack into the kitinstal. i even looked in the manual . . . the standard reward --- a third of my kingdom and the hand of the princess in marriage --- is hereby offered to anyone who would be so kind as to point me in the right direction. thanks. ok dpm -- David P. Murphy When every one is dead (systems programmer at large) the Great Game is finished dpm@access.digex.net not before. a personal account COGITO, ERGO DISCLAIMUM --- Hurree Babu, "Kim" ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 14:59:16 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 14:59:01 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: dpm@access1.digex.net Message-ID: <0097F41E.0EBE1311.3@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: error installing MX V4.0-1 AXP dpm@access1.digex.net (David P. Murphy) writes: > >FTPed MX040.ZIP from ftp.spc.edu and invoked VMSINSTAL; >everything went fine (asked for UCX and MULTINET support, >took defaults for most prompts) until > [...] >>%MCP-I-QNEWQFL, creating new system message queue file for 5000 entries.... >>%MCP-E-QCVTFAIL, error creating new system message queue >>-RMS-F-ISI, invalid internal stream identifier (ISI) value >> >> An error occurred creating the MX queue file. Please correct >> the problem and use MCP QUEUE CREATE to create the queue. >> I really thought that was fixed---it has been for most people. Sigh. Does the following command work: $ MCP QUEUE CREATE/MAX=xxxx The installation is complete, if that command works. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 15:59:50 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 22:05:50 EDT From: "Bj|rn Skeppner MTA/F, Huddinge Hosp" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097F459.AEEC56A0.1@bimd01.hs.sll.se> Subject: Automatic reply-header! Hi folks! I have noticed that many of you have some automatic reply-header when you reply to a message. Eg: In article ... xx writes... > question text > question text > Answer: ....... What kind of tool do you use for that? I have only seen a MAIL-program that did something simular: VMAIL Glad for any tips! Bjorn --------------------------------------------------------------------------- H H SSSS Bj|rn Skeppner /SM0OCV/ H H S MTA/F69 HHHHHH SSSS Huddinge Hospital H H S S-141 86 HUDDINGE H H SSSS SWEDEN bjsk@bimd01.hs.sll.se Huddinge University Hospital Phone: +46-8-746 56 03 Clinical Engineering Dep. Fax : +46-8-746 56 30 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 16:29:50 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: error installing MX V4.0-1 AXP Date: 31 May 1994 21:17:33 GMT Message-ID: <2sg9hd$6g9@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article , dpm@access1.digex.net (David P. Murphy) writes: =FTPed MX040.ZIP from ftp.spc.edu and invoked VMSINSTAL; =everything went fine (asked for UCX and MULTINET support, =took defaults for most prompts) until = => MX Message Queue Creation => ------------------------- => => The MX message queue file will be created now. => => Defining MX logicals and installing images.... => =>%MCP-I-QNEWQFL, creating new system message queue file for 5000 entries.... =>%MCP-E-QCVTFAIL, error creating new system message queue =>-RMS-F-ISI, invalid internal stream identifier (ISI) value => => An error occurred creating the MX queue file. Please correct => the problem and use MCP QUEUE CREATE to create the queue. => => => Installation of MX V4.0 completed at 12:55 = =i regret to report that i have no CONFIG file, no Hot Idea on what to fix, =and no time to hack into the kitinstal. i even looked in the manual . . . Execute MX_DIR:MXCONFIG.COM to create your CONFIG file. Use MCP QUEUE CREATE to create your queue file. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 16:42:47 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 94 17:31:03 EDT From: Kamrul Ahsan Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Help| MX_SMTP giving error To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Hi: I am in a serious problem and need your help| We are using mx 3.3 and VMS 5.5. Since yesterday all the mails sent through mx are getting stuck in the queue. And after a while postmaster sends the mail back as No Such Host. I have defined mx_smtp_debug true and this is what I got for each attemp t. ****************************************************************************** 31-MAY-1994 17:24:09.51 Processing queue entry number 23590 on node YCVAX 31-MAY-1994 17:24:10.24 Recipient: , route=spcvxa.spc 31-MAY-1994 17:24:10.24 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name spcvxa.spc.edu 31-MAY-1994 17:24:10.26 SMTP_SEND: Failed, sts=00000870 31-MAY-1994 17:24:10.26 SMTP send failed, sts=0C278024, sts2=00000870 31-MAY-1994 17:24:10.27 Recipient status=0C278024 for To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I have a problem with the MX 4.0-1 VAX. On occasions, two in the last week, the "MX Router" process "runs away" and consumes over 90% of the CPU (a VAXstation 4000-60). I am running OpenVMS VAX 5.5-2. Looking in the queue I see: MCP> queue show Entry# Status Size Source Agent .... ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- 5 INPROG 2465 LOCAL 1 READY 184 SMTP ... ... others To clear the problem, I have done a QUEUE CANCEL on the entries, shutdown the router process and then stopped the MX Router process using "$stop/id=" as it won't go away after being shutdown. I then restart MX and all is well. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Mike Jensen Systems Manager dmdj@comms.moc.govt.nz ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 16:53:47 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 16:53:33 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0097F42E.0E6267E0.6@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: Errors creating MX queue file If you've experienced problems with MX V4.0-1 creating the queue file, here's the solution. The problem is that the installation fails with: %MCP-I-QNEWQFL, creating new system message queue file for 5000 entries.... %MCP-E-QCVTFAIL, error creating new system message queue -RMS-F-ISI, invalid internal stream identifier (ISI) value Subsequent attempts to create it by hand also fail. The reason is two-fold. First, the ISI error is misleading---that's not the real error. A bug in MX V4.0[-1] overwrites the status from the $CREATE too soon. The *real* error is, most likely, "Error in device name....". All MX logicals should be defined /EXECUTIVE/SYSTEM. If you do: $ show log mx_flq_dir and find that you're using a rooted logical, say "PRODUCTS_ROOT:" for the device name, then PRODUCTS_ROOT: must *also* be defined /EXECUTIVE for MX to work correctly. Defining your rooted logical /EXEC should clear the problem and let you create the queue file. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 16:55:23 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 16:55:03 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097F42E.447665B1.18@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: "MX Router" Process Consumes 90%+ of the CPU - mx.log [1/1] - mx.log [1/1] dmdj@comms.moc.govt.nz (Mike Jensen) writes: > >I have a problem with the MX 4.0-1 VAX. On occasions, two in the >last week, the "MX Router" process "runs away" and consumes over 90% >of the CPU (a VAXstation 4000-60). I am running OpenVMS VAX 5.5-2. > >Looking in the queue I see: > > >MCP> queue show > >Entry# Status Size Source Agent .... >------ ------ ---- ------ ----- > 5 INPROG 2465 LOCAL What would help most is for you to enable Router debugging using: $ define mx_router_debug true and then READY one of the entries causing the problem. The Router will create an MX_ROUTER_LOG.LOG file in MX_ROUTER_DIR: which should show what the Router thinks it's doing. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 17:43:11 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: Help| MX_SMTP giving error Date: 31 May 1994 22:29:27 GMT Message-ID: <2sgdo7$fbn@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <24969102@MVB.SAIC.COM>, Kamrul Ahsan writes: =Hi: = I am in a serious problem and need your help| We are using mx 3.3 and = VMS 5.5. But you don't bother to tell us what TCP/IP package you're using. =31-MAY-1994 17:24:10.26 SMTP send failed, sts=0C278024, sts2=00000870 0C2780024 is %MX-F-NOHOST, no such host 000000870 is %SYSTEM-W-ENDOFFILE, end of file Your TCP/IP package's name to address lookup is failing. Try restarting your TCP/IP package. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 17:46:51 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 94 18:41:39 EDT From: Kamrul Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Help| MX_SMTP error To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Sorry for the goof up| the TCP/IP package we are using is UCX 2.0D . I realised just after posting. Kamrul ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 17:58:02 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: aw@ifwb.wupper.de (Andreas Wylach) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Problems with MX-SMTP... Message-ID: <1994May29.222735.7183@ifwb.wupper.de> Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 22:27:35 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hi everybody, After 2 weeks working on our smtp problem with MX4.0-1, we're out of ideas. The problem machine is a VAX 3400 with OpenVMS 5.5 and MX4.0-1 (just updated) and CMUIP Version 6.6-5a. This machine is connected to our mail/news server, a linux machine with SMAIL Version 3.1.28. Every time, if someone wants to send a mail message from VMS via mx to the Linux machine, following happens: The message is sent into the mx queue and queued there: This is an example log from smtp: 17-MAY-1994 14:34:10.14 Processing queue entry number 2 on node WNVAX 17-MAY-1994 14:34:10.49 Recipient: , route=ifwb.wupper.de 17-MAY-1994 14:34:10.49 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name ifwb.wupper.de 17-MAY-1994 14:34:10.52 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with ifwb.wupper.de [89.0.0.2] 17-MAY-1994 14:34:10.55 SMTP_SEND: Connected 17-MAY-1994 14:34:11.53 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 220 ifwb.wupper.de Smail3.1.28.1 #1 ready at Tue, 17 May 94 14:44 GMT 17-MAY-1994 14:34:11.64 SMTP_SEND: Sent: HELO WNVAX.WUPPER.DE 17-MAY-1994 14:34:11.66 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 ifwb.wupper.de Hello WNVAX.WUPPER.DE 17-MAY-1994 14:34:11.67 SMTP_SEND: Sent: MAIL FROM: 17-MAY-1994 14:34:11.71 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 ... Sender Okay 17-MAY-1994 14:34:11.71 SMTP_SEND: Sent: RCPT TO: 17-MAY-1994 14:39:11.67 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 421 ifwb.wupper.de SMTP command timeout, closing channel 17-MAY-1994 14:39:11.95 SMTP send failed, sts=0C27804A, sts2=0C268048 17-MAY-1994 14:39:11.95 Recipient status=0C268048 for 17-MAY-1994 14:39:14.72 1 rcpts need retry, next try 17-MAY-1994 15:09:14.72 17-MAY-1994 14:39:14.79 *** End of processing pass *** -- -- -- -- After an hour or more: -- -- -- -- 17-MAY-1994 15:09:15.96 Processing queue entry number 2 on node WNVAX 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.39 Recipient: , route=ifwb.wupper.de 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.39 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name ifwb.wupper.de 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.42 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with ifwb.wupper.de [89.0.0.2] 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.44 SMTP_SEND: Connected 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.62 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 220 ifwb.wupper.de Smail3.1.28.1 #1 ready at Tue, 17 May 94 15:19 GMT 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.74 SMTP_SEND: Sent: HELO WNVAX.WUPPER.DE 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.77 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 ifwb.wupper.de Hello WNVAX.WUPPER.DE 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.77 SMTP_SEND: Sent: MAIL FROM: 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.79 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 ... Sender Okay 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.79 SMTP_SEND: Sent: RCPT TO: 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.82 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 ... Recipient Okay 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.86 SMTP_SEND: Sent: DATA 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.89 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.90 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: by wnvax.wupper.de (MX V4.0-1 VAX) id 1; Tue, 17 May 1994 14:34:07 EDT 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.92 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 14:34:06 EDT 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.95 SMTP_SEND: Sent: From: "Andreas W. Wylach" 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.97 SMTP_SEND: Sent: To: aw@ifwb.wupper.de 17-MAY-1994 15:09:16.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Message-ID: <0097E91A.41AEB820.1@wnvax.wupper.de> 17-MAY-1994 15:09:17.00 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Subject: test with mx4.0-1 -> ifwb-unix -> vax1 mx4.0 17-MAY-1994 15:09:17.01 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 17-MAY-1994 15:09:17.03 SMTP_SEND: Sent: test test test to ifwb, and then to vax1 from wnvax test no1, debug on 17-MAY-1994 15:09:17.04 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 17-MAY-1994 15:09:17.05 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -- 17-MAY-1994 15:09:17.06 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Andreas Wylach -- aw@ifwb.wupper.de -- IfwB Wuppertal -- Germany 17-MAY-1994 15:09:17.08 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -- you don't vax me like you used to **BREAK** -- 17-MAY-1994 15:09:17.10 SMTP_SEND: Sent: . 17-MAY-1994 15:09:17.10 SMTP_SEND: will wait 00:10:30.00 for reply. 17-MAY-1994 15:09:17.17 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 Mail accepted 17-MAY-1994 15:09:17.17 SMTP_SEND: Sent: QUIT 17-MAY-1994 15:09:17.19 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 221 ifwb.wupper.de closing connection 17-MAY-1994 15:09:17.30 Recipient status=00000001 for 17-MAY-1994 15:09:17.43 Entry now completely processed, no retries needed. 17-MAY-1994 15:09:17.58 *** End of processing pass *** --- --- --- After about an hour, more or less, the mail is sent to the uucp/spool dir and ready to go to the recipient... This problem happens every time from WNVAX(VAX3400) to IFWB(LINUX-server). Incomming mail causes problems too. It can be, that from 5 incoming mails from Lunix 4 are sent to wnvax and the others are going nowhere (for example). If a lot of mail is coming in from the internet, it is sent by smail to the VAX. Some users have set a forwarding, that the incoming mail is sent directly to their VMS-Accounts. Here's an example send to the postmaster: this was a test sent by PINE. A reply came in and is sent from Linux to the VAX (-MX SMTP) From MAILER-DAEMON Sun May 29 19:25:09 1994 Return-Path: Received: from ifwb.wupper.de by ifwb.wupper.de with bsmtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0q7qTr-0002A8C; Sun, 29 May 94 19:25 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 29 May 94 19:25 GMT From: To: postmaster Cc: weller!walterb Subject: mail failed, sending to postmaster Reference: Status: RO |------------------------- Message log follows: -------------------------| Xfail: reason: (ERR_151) transport smtp: 499 timeout on read from remote SMTP process |------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------| wnvax!AW ... transport smtp: 499 timeout on read from remote SMTP process |------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------| Received: from weller by ifwb.wupper.de with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0q7qOx-00029sC; Sun, 29 May 94 19:20 GMT Received: by weller.wupper.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0q7qBK-000F63C; Sun, 29 May 94 19:05 GMT Message-Id: Subject: Re: Ich glaub, ich spinne hahahahaha, geil To: AW@wnvax.wupper.de (Andreas W. Wylach) Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 19:05:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Walter Buerger In-Reply-To: from "Andreas W. Wylach" at May 29, 94 03:46:46 pm Reply-To: walterb@weller.wupper.de Return-Receipt-To: walterb@weller.wupper.de Organization: Private Unix Site Solingen, Germany X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1834 .... We have the same installation on our second VAX (VAX1), mx4.0 with cmuip, just the same as WNVAX, and over there, we have no problems. All is working fine. We increased the smtp agents, stopped the cmuip smtp process, but no change. Well, after installing the mx software 4.0 on wnvax about 5 times and installing the cmuip a couple of times, modifying several mx-parameters, we had no change in the strange behaviour of wnvax. We also changed and compiled on the Linux-server the smail software, cause we thought, maybe on this side might be the problem, but no. Thanks in advance, we appreciate any help. Andreasw aw@ifwb.wupper.de . -- -- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 18:50:44 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 16:45:00 PST From: robert@dis.ucsf.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097F42C.DCFE49E0.20920@dis.ucsf.edu> Subject: RE: Automatic reply-header! Here's a version I modified. It expects the SMTP headers to be at the end of the message, but it originally looked for them at the beginning. (If you need that feature and can't figure it out let me know and I'll see if I have an earlier version that expects headers at the top. But let me know this week -- my last day at UCSF is this Friday.) It also runs the output through Decus Spell. If you don't like that you can comment out all references to spell or define the logical USE_SPELL_IN_MAIL = "NO" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Weiner Manager, Development Information Systems robert@dis.ucsf.edu University of California, San Francisco ==================CUT HERE====================== $ SAVERIFY = 'F$VERIFY(0)' ! Save and turn off verify $! MAIL_EDIT.COM $! $! Created by Mike Plante, Computing/Network Services $! e-mail: plante@Camosun.BC.CA $! $! Modified by Robert Weiner, UC San Francisco to prompt before adding $! quote_chr, and to keep "input file not found" error message from $! appearing. email: robert@dis.ucsf.edu $! $! NOTE: $! $! Use of this utility assumes a working knowledge of the EDT editor. $! $! This command procedure allows users to add more functionality to $! VMS Mail. REPLYing will extract and "quote" the original message $! and SENDing, FORWARDing, and REPLYing will use the SPELL program $! to spell check messages prior to sending. Also, if a signature $! file exists (PLAN.TXT), it will be appended to the message. $! $! To use this procedure, you should place these two lines in your $! LOGIN.COM file. $! $! $ MAI*L == "MAIL/EDIT=(SEND,REPLY=EXTRACT,FORWARD)" $! $ DEFINE MAIL$EDIT SYS$LOGIN:MAIL_EDIT.COM $! $! This file should be in SYS$LOGIN and called MAIL_EDIT.COM. If a file $! PLAN.TXT exists there as well, it will automatically be appended $! to the end of the message as a signature after you exit your edit and $! spelling checking sessions. $! $!--- $! $ START: $! $ SET SYMBOL/SCOPE=(NOLOCAL,NOGLOBAL) $! $! assign SPELL_DICT so that it can find the dictionaries $! (and SPELL_HELP for the help files from within SPELL) $ if f$logical("spell_dict") .eqs. "" then - define SPELL_DICT sys$public_root:[spell] $ if f$logical("spell_help") .eqs. "" then - define SPELL_HELP sys$public_root:[spell] $! $ spell_directory="sys$public_root:[spell]" $! $! set up the command SPELL $ spel*l="$"+spell_directory+"spell" $! $!----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ $! MAIL_EDIT.COM - Used when editing mail to send; quote and spell check | $!----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ $! You may re-define the following symbols to suit personal preference: $ QUOTE_CHR = "> " ! Quote character(s) $ EDITOR = "EDT" ! Editor: may be EDT or TPU $ SIG_FILE = "SYS$LOGIN:PLAN.TXT" ! Name and location of sig file $! $! sh sym p1 $! sh sym p2 $!----------------------------------------------------------------------------- $! $ IF F$TRNLNM("SYS$INPUT",,,"USER",,"ACCESS_MODE") .EQS. "USER" THEN - DEASSIGN/USER_MODE SYS$INPUT ! Just in case $ IF P1 .EQS. P2 ! READ/EDIT; no quote or spell $ THEN DEFINE/USER SYS$INPUT SYS$COMMAND ! Re-direct input for edit $ EDIT/'EDITOR'/READ_ONLY 'P2' ! Edit the message to read $! EXIT 1 + 0*F$VERIFY(SAVERIFY) ! Exit with success $ ENDIF ! EndIf READ/EDIT $ IF P1 .EQS. "" THEN GOTO NO_INPUT ! SEND; no quote $ READ SYS$COMMAND PREFIX - /PROMPT="Do you want to prefix all lines with '>'? [Y]: " $ PREFIX = F$EXTRACT(0,1,F$EDIT(PREFIX,"UPCASE,COLLAPSE")) $ IF PREFIX .LES. " " THEN PREFIX = "Y" $! $ IF PREFIX .NES. "Y" THEN GOTO DONE $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT " " $ READ SYS$COMMAND DELETE_HEADER - /PROMPT="Do you want to delete extra header lines ? [Y]: " $ DELETE_HEADER = F$EXTRACT(0,1,F$EDIT(DELETE_HEADER,"UPCASE,COLLAPSE")) $ IF DELETE_HEADER .LES. " " THEN DELETE_HEADER = "Y" $! $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "Quoting mail message with ""''QUOTE_CHR'""..." $ OPEN/READ/ERR=FINISHED INFIL 'P1' ! Open input file $ CREATE 'P1' ! Create new input text file $ OPEN/READ/WRITE/ERR=FINISHED OUTFIL 'P1' ! Open new input file $ WRITE OUTFIL "" ! Write blank line $ WRITE OUTFIL "" ! Write blank line $! READ/END=DONE INFIL LINE ! Line #1: From $! SMTP_SKIP = (F$LOCATE("%",LINE) .NE. F$LENGTH(LINE)) ! Skip routing info $! WRITE OUTFIL "" ! Write blank line $! WRITE OUTFIL "" ! Write blank line $! WRITE OUTFIL QUOTE_CHR + LINE ! Write out From $! READ/END=DONE INFIL LINE ! Line #2: To (skip) $! IF DELETE_HEADER .NES. "Y" THEN WRITE OUTFIL QUOTE_CHR + LINE $! READ/END=DONE INFIL LINE ! Line #3: CC (skip) $! IF DELETE_HEADER .NES. "Y" THEN WRITE OUTFIL QUOTE_CHR + LINE $! READ/END=DONE INFIL LINE ! Line #4: Subject $! WRITE OUTFIL QUOTE_CHR + LINE ! Write out Subject $! READ/END=DONE INFIL LINE ! Line #5: blank $! WRITE OUTFIL "" ! Write out blank line $ LOOP: ! Loop for rest of file $ READ/END=DONE INFIL LINE ! Get a line $ SMTP_SKIP = (F$LOCATE("%",LINE) .NE. F$LENGTH(LINE)) ! Skip routing info $ IF DELETE_HEADER .NES. "Y" THEN GOTO LEAVE_HEADER_2 $ IF F$EXTRACT(0,10,LINE) .EQS. "----------" $ THEN $ SAVE_LINE = LINE $ READ/END=DONE INFIL LINE $ IF F$EXTRACT(0,12,LINE) .EQS. "Return-Path:" - .OR. F$EXTRACT(0,9,LINE) .EQS. "Received:" ! For MacMail headers $ THEN $ GOTO DONE $ ELSE $ WRITE OUTFIL QUOTE_CHR + SAVE_LINE $ WRITE OUTFIL QUOTE_CHR + LINE $ GOTO LOOP $ ENDIF $ ENDIF $ IF SMTP_SKIP ! Are we skipping this? $ THEN LINE = F$EDIT(LINE,"TRIM") ! Blank line for end of garbage $ IF LINE .EQS. "" THEN SMTP_SKIP = "FALSE" ! Don't skip anymore $ GOTO LOOP ! Get another line $ ENDIF ! EndIf SMTP skip $ LEAVE_HEADER_2: $ WRITE OUTFIL QUOTE_CHR + LINE ! Quote and write out line $ GOTO LOOP ! Get another line $ DONE: ! We're done quoting input file $ CLOSE/NOLOG INFIL ! Close original input file $ CLOSE/NOLOG OUTFIL ! Close new input file $ PURGE/NOLOG/NOCONFIRM 'P1' ! Purge input file $ DEFINE/USER SYS$INPUT SYS$COMMAND ! Re-direct input for edit $ EDIT/'EDITOR'/OUTPUT='P2' 'P1' ! Edit the message to send $ GOTO FINISHED ! All finished editing $ NO_INPUT: ! No input file specified $! $! create an empty file for editing. This keeps a "no input file" $! message from being displayed. $! $ INFILE = P2 $ INFILE = INFILE-"SEND.TMP" $ INFILE = INFILE+"EDIT.TMP" $! sh sym infile $ CREATE 'INFILE' $ DEFINE/USER SYS$INPUT SYS$COMMAND ! Re-direct input for edit $ EDIT/'EDITOR'/OUTPUT='P2' 'INFILE' ! Edit the message to send $ FINISHED: ! All finished editing $ CLOSE/NOLOG INFIL ! Close input files just to $ CLOSE/NOLOG OUTFIL ! be on the safe side $! $! Run DECUS Spell. $! $ IF F$TRNLNM("USE_SPELL_IN_MAIL") .EQS. "NO" THEN GOTO SPELL_DONE $ IF F$SEARCH(P2) .NES. "" ! Check for mail message $ THEN DEFINE/USER SYS$INPUT SYS$COMMAND ! Re-direct input for spell $ SPELL 'P2' ! Correct spelling errors $! IF F$SEARCH(SIG_FILE) .NES. "" THEN APPEND 'SIG_FILE' 'P2' !sig $ PURGE/NOLOG/NOCONFIRM 'P2' ! Purge older version(s) $ ENDIF ! EndIf message exists $ SPELL_DONE: $ IF P1 .EQS. "" THEN delete 'infile';* $ IF P1 .GTS. "" THEN delete 'p1';* $ EXIT 1 + 0*F$VERIFY(SAVERIFY) ! Exit with success $! $!----------------------------------------------------------------------------- $! $! This is an example signature file. Signature files should contain a $! blank line or a line with "--" only followed by (at most) four lines $! of information. This is common network courtesy: to be sensitive to $! bandwith restrictions and give a replyable address (which what appears $! in "From:" for different mailers may not be). $!----------------------------------------------------------------------------- $! Mike Plante, Computing/Network Services e-mail: plante@Camosun.BC.CA $! Camosun College PSI: 302064700212::plante $! 3100 Foul Bay Road Tel: (604) 370-3066 $! Victoria, B.C. Canada, V8P-5J2 Fax: (604) 370-3660 ==================CUT HERE====================== > > Hi folks! > > I have noticed that many of you have some automatic reply-header > when you reply to a message. > > Eg: In article ... xx writes... > > question text > > question text > > > > Answer: ....... > > What kind of tool do you use for that? > I have only seen a MAIL-program that did something simular: VMAIL > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 19:48:31 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 20:45:49 EDT From: kamrul@ycvax.york.cuny.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0097F44E.80E189C0.23930@ycvax.york.cuny.edu> Subject: Re: Help| MX_SMTP giving error > > Your TCP/IP package's name to address lookup is failing. Try restarting your > TCP/IP package. I have restarted UCX and it worked. Thank you Carl. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 19:50:32 EDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: Problems with MX-SMTP... Date: 1 Jun 1994 00:35:27 GMT Message-ID: <2sgl4f$2pt@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <1994May29.222735.7183@ifwb.wupper.de>, aw@ifwb.wupper.de (Andreas Wylach) writes: #After 2 weeks working on our smtp problem with MX4.0-1, we're out of ideas. # #The problem machine is a VAX 3400 with OpenVMS 5.5 and MX4.0-1 (just updated) #and CMUIP Version 6.6-5a. This machine is connected to our mail/news server, #a linux machine with SMAIL Version 3.1.28. #Every time, if someone wants to send a mail message from VMS via mx to the #Linux machine, following happens: # #The message is sent into the mx queue and queued there: #This is an example log from smtp: # #17-MAY-1994 14:34:10.14 Processing queue entry number 2 on node WNVAX #17-MAY-1994 14:34:10.49 Recipient: , route=ifwb.wupper.de #17-MAY-1994 14:34:10.49 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name ifwb.wupper.de #17-MAY-1994 14:34:10.52 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with ifwb.wupper.de [89.0.0.2] #17-MAY-1994 14:34:10.55 SMTP_SEND: Connected #17-MAY-1994 14:34:11.53 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 220 ifwb.wupper.de Smail3.1.28.1 #1 ready at Tue, 17 May 94 14:44 GMT #17-MAY-1994 14:34:11.64 SMTP_SEND: Sent: HELO WNVAX.WUPPER.DE #17-MAY-1994 14:34:11.66 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 ifwb.wupper.de Hello WNVAX.WUPPER.DE #17-MAY-1994 14:34:11.67 SMTP_SEND: Sent: MAIL FROM: #17-MAY-1994 14:34:11.71 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 ... Sender Okay #17-MAY-1994 14:34:11.71 SMTP_SEND: Sent: RCPT TO: #17-MAY-1994 14:39:11.67 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 421 ifwb.wupper.de SMTP command timeout, closing channel As far as MX was concerned, it sent "RCPT TO:"; however, 5 minutes later, ifwb.wupper.de sent a message saying "I'm closing the connection because I haven't heard from you in 5 minutes". #17-MAY-1994 14:39:11.95 SMTP send failed, sts=0C27804A, sts2=0C268048 #17-MAY-1994 14:39:11.95 Recipient status=0C268048 for #17-MAY-1994 14:39:14.72 1 rcpts need retry, next try 17-MAY-1994 15:09:14.72 #17-MAY-1994 14:39:14.79 *** End of processing pass *** # #-- -- -- -- # #After an hour or more: # [... it works ...] If you have an Ethernet sniffer, or if your Lynix system has TCPDUMP, you can see what's actually happening on the wire. For example, with MultiNet you could use: $ MULTINET TCPDUMP/SNAPSHOT_SIZE=1500/HEX/OUTPUT=filename- HOST ip_addr AND POST 25 Where IP_ADDR would be the IP address of the remote (non-MultiNet) system. I don't know of CMU/IP includes a command similar to TCPDUMP, though. -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com