Archive-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 1994 00:04:27 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 01 Aug 1994 00:04:19 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00982459.571F7238.240@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU> Subject: MX-LIST Administrivia: Monthly Post Posting statistics for list MX-LIST during July 1994 Total number of posts: 152 Total number of posters: 85 Total number of subscribers: 237 Total number of digest subscribers: 36 Last modified: 7-JUL-1994 10:04 (Updated version info) Welcome to MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, an electronic mailing list established for the discussion of the Message Exchange mail software. This is a routine posting you will see from time to time on MX-List. MX-List postings are also available in a daily digest format. To subscribe to the digest, send the following command in the body of a mail message to MXserver@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU: SUBSCRIBE MX-List-Digest "Your real name here" The MX-List archives are maintained at ARCHIVES@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU. To get a copy of any month's postings, send an e-mail message with the body SEND MX-List.yyyy-mm to ARCHIVES@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, where "yyyy" is the year and "mm" is the numeric representation of the month. For example, the message SENDME MX-List.1992-04 will send the archives for April 1992. MX itself is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.spc.edu in [.MX.MX041]. You can also get it via e-mail by sending the commands SEND MX and SEND FILESERV_TOOLS on separate lines in the body of a mail message to FILESERV@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU. To remove yourself from the mailing list, send the following command to MXserver@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU: SIGNOFF MX-List MXserver supports a few other commands for your convenience. The following commands can be handled automatically by the list processor: SIGNOFF MX-List - to remove yourself from the list REVIEW MX-List - to get a list of subscribers QUERY MX-List - to get the status of your entry on the list SET MX-List NOMAIL - to remain on the list but not receive mail SET MX-List MAIL - to resume receiving mail from the list SET MX-List CONCEAL - to not report your address in a REVIEW SET MX-List NOCONCEAL - to report your address in a REVIEW SET MX-List REPRO - to receive posts you make to MX-List SET MX-List NOREPRO - to not receive posts you make to MX-List LIST - to get a list of mailing lists served by WKUVX1 HELP - to receive a help file By default, subscriptions are set to MAIL, REPRO, NOCONCEAL. If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions about MX-List, please contact the list owner at the address below. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Hunter Goatley, VAX Systems Programmer goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Western Kentucky University Academic Computing, STH 226 (502) 745-5251 Bowling Green, KY 42101 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 1994 03:11:20 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 01 Aug 1994 10:10:30 +0200 From: Gunnar Holm Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, CMU-OpenVMS-IP@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU CC: holm@kontest.lagcr.se Message-ID: <009824AE.06589DC0.1@kontest.lagcr.se> Subject: NAMRES/DNS Timeout I have problems running MX / CMUIP where our Internet connection is a bit slow, It appears the NAMRES in CMUIP takes too long time to establish connection to the outside world. So MX times out, and places the job on queue for a retry. The reason for the Internet beeing slow is that we are using a CISCO/ISDN. And that it takes a few seconds to dial the remote end and establish connection When the connection is established the data rate is 64Kb/s so this is not causing any trouble. What timeout / retry parameters would be appropiate to tune for this problem? ******************************************************************************* Email: holm@kontest.lagcr.se Gunnar Holm PSI-Mail: 024037121265::HOLM Lagercrantz KonTest AB Phone: +46 8 626 06 36 Oper: 626 06 20 Box 986 Fax: +46 8 754 88 67 S-191 29 SOLLENTUNA Mobile: +46 10 673 28 15 SWEDEN ******************************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 1994 23:28:41 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: "Kevin J. Sinclair" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Problem with Mailworks Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 02:16:16 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Can anyone advise me? I am trying to set up forwarding from a vax with Mailworks, and several people have tried to help me but it just does not work. right now i logon, and read each message, and individually forward them like this: "kjs@rahul.net"@inet. This works. I cannot use that string with the forward command. Nothing seems to work. Several people have tried various combinations of things, especially using the " symbol - lots of those. When one finally gets allowed by the forward command, i get returned mail that says my address was too complicated or something to that effect. Any ideas? I am posting to this account because when I look at the addresses, it always shows mx as in mx%kjs@rahul.net. kevin kjs@rahul.net -- Kevin { Kevin J. Sinclair: kjs@rahul.net } ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 1994 01:51:13 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 02 Aug 1994 09:35:00 -0305 From: SAEED KHADEMI Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00982572.3B32BCA0.22248@IREARN.BITNET> Subject: RE: How to set MLF "FROM" to listname? > >Is there a way setup the listname as the "FROM:" user, instead of the >individual user. This would help people on the list that would just >reply to the message so that it would go on the list... > >-jIM Jim, You should set REPLY-TO parameter to only LIST, by using MCP DEF LIST command. Regards, Saeed. +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | Saeed Khademi | E-mail : SAEED@IREARN.BITNET | | Computer Department | Phone : +9821 243860 | | Institute for studies in | P.O.Box: 19395-1795 | | theoretical Physics and | Fax : +9821 8014003 | | Mathematics ( IPM ) | Telex : +9821 214758 | | Iran/Tehran | | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 1994 04:22:52 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: fahnoe@loki.ncent.mccaw.com (Larry Fahnoe) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: Long lines being truncated Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 15:35:29 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0098228A.9DD15D61.3@alpha.wku.edu>, Hunter Goatley, WKU wrote: >carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) writes: >> >>=It's VMS Mail that's truncating them.... >> >>In that case, could MX be modified to wrap them, and insert a warning in the >>message header indicating that it's done so? > >That's on the ever-growing wish list. If anybody is into cloning, >call me.... ;-) Sorry Hunter, no cloning ability on this end, but I would really like to see a word wrap (or even just the ability to break lines regardless of word boundaries) feature, particularly if you can configure a) how long the line needs to be to trigger the feature, and b) what column to wrap or break on. I'll suspect that an argument could be made that would suggest that since MX is a package that seeks to integrate VMS Mail with the rest of the net, then it ought to be able to make a legal (in that it is not explicitly excluded by RFC 822), albeit unconventional, format message acceptable to VMS Mail. --Larry -- Larry Fahnoe Cellular One IS VAX System Manager 7900 S. Xerxes Ave, Suite 301 612/832-7616 Minneapolis, MN 55431 Internet: fahnoe@loki.ncent.mccaw.com McCaw DECnet: 18435::FAHNOE ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 1994 06:59:11 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 02 Aug 1994 06:58:19 EDT From: Chris Olive Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: olive@sgi.siemens.com Message-ID: <0098255C.577DC960.2@sgi.siemens.com> Subject: RE: Problem with Mailworks In article , "Kevin J. Sinclair" writes: >Can anyone advise me? I am trying to set up forwarding from a vax with >Mailworks, and several people have tried to help me but it just does not >work. right now i logon, and read each message, and individually forward >them like this: "kjs@rahul.net"@inet. This works. I cannot use that >string with the forward command. Nothing seems to work. Several people >have tried various combinations of things, especially using the " symbol >- lots of those. When one finally gets allowed by the forward command, i >get returned mail that says my address was too complicated or something >to that effect. Any ideas? I am posting to this account because when I >look at the addresses, it always shows mx as in mx%kjs@rahul.net. When I try something like this, I use a routing address. Something like this: MX%"OliveCE%MacML4.DNet@Sgi.Siemens.Com" That address routes to my Mac Mail box. How about "kjs%rahul.net@inet" for you? Note the "%" in place of the first "@" when scanning from left to right... Chris _______________________________________________________________________________ ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ _ _ ___ /___ | |__ |\ /| |__ |\ | /___ Chris Olive, VMS Systems Consultant ___/ _|_ |___ | Y | |___ | \| ___/ Internet: olive@sgi.siemens.com Medical Systems, Inc. Voice: 708.304.7793 2501 N. Barrington Road. FAX: 708.304.7704 Hoffman Estates, IL 60195 CompuServe: 73740,1636 _______________________________________________________________________________ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 1994 23:49:58 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 02 Aug 1994 22:49:11 MDT From: Mark Tarka Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <009825E1.2D5F2860.1@earth.oscs.montana.edu> Subject: MX on what platforms ? I wrote: >From my experience, only, if you expect MX to recognize the personal >name added by the owner, it won't happen. > >To personalize the list mail, I believe each individual will have to SET >PERSONAL NAME or some equivalent operation, in order to have a personal >name appear in the mail header. Is Message eXchange limited to specific operating systems (e.g. VMS)? Mark ichjsmt@earth.oscs.montana.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 1994 05:12:06 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 03 Aug 1994 05:12:23 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00982616.B54F74A7.37@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MX on what platforms ? Mark Tarka writes: > >I wrote: > >>From my experience, only, if you expect MX to recognize the personal >>name added by the owner, it won't happen. >> >>To personalize the list mail, I believe each individual will have to SET >>PERSONAL NAME or some equivalent operation, in order to have a personal >>name appear in the mail header. This is true for posts to a list, yes. >Is Message eXchange limited to specific operating systems (e.g. VMS)? > Yes, MX runs only on VMS (both VAX and AXP). Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 1994 15:04:30 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 05:03:30 JST From: Tim Burress Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <009827A7.CC665560.33@tanuki.twics.com> Subject: Access Violation in MLF with Bang-Path From: Address It looks like there is a bug in the MLF code which results in an access violation when the From: address of an incoming request is invalid (or in this case, a bang-path address). Here is the debug output for a relevant relevant entry: 5-AUG-1994 04:34:47.86 Processing queue entry number 112 5-AUG-1994 04:34:49.68 Checking local name: uucp-managers-Request 5-AUG-1994 04:34:49.83 This is a list control address. 5-AUG-1994 04:34:49.84 LIST_CTRL_LISTSERV: -- From: address invalid! 5-AUG-1994 04:34:56.89 LIST_CTRL_REQ: Message is from: 5-AUG-1994 04:34:57.65 LIST_CTRL_REQ: command is: QUERY MLF_LOG.LOG reads: 5-AUG-1994 04:34:34.11: MX MLF (pid 00000FC8) starting 5-AUG-1994 04:34:57.89: MX MLF (pid 00000FC8) exiting, status = 1000000C Please let me know if there is any other information you need to track this down! I'll ask this particular site to modify their From: lines to domain addressing, but we can't control them all :-) Tim -- Tim Burress tim@twics.com Twics -- Tokyo Public Internet Access ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 00:19:04 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 14:18:35 +0900 To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: tim@twics.com (Tim Burress) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: Access Violation in MLF with Bang-Path From: Address >You might want to indicate the version of MX you are running when you >post... Sorry... MCP> show version MX version id is: MX V4.0-1 VAX Tim ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 09:09:43 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 08:51:56 EDT From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: uunet!WKUVX1.WKU.EDU!mx-list@esseye.si.com Message-ID: <009827C7.B6119340.18@swdev.si.com> Subject: Re: Access Violation in MLF with Bang-Path From: Address Every single address that comes through my MX is a bang path. I never have trouble. It's been this way since MX V3.0 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 11:03:42 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 12:01:58 E From: tony spinillo Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <009827E2.42417D20.1700@marywood1.marywood.edu> Subject: HELP mx 4.1 ucx 3.1 I have just installed mx 4.1 on our 4100 running vms 6.0 and ucx 3.1. incoming mail seems to be working fine but when i send to another node the message stays in the INPROG state. what have i forgotten/ thanks tony ************************************************************ Anthony Spinillo - Tech Services Marywood College PHONE: 717-348-6215 ext 557 FAX: 717-348-1817 2300 Adams Ave Scranton, PA 19509 spinillo@marywood1.marywood.edu ************************************************************ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 12:34:04 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 12:34:43 CDT From: system@BEAVER.HS.Bemidji.MSUS.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <009827E6.D5568C00.5@BEAVER.HS.Bemidji.MSUS.edu> Subject: RE: HELP mx 4.1 ucx 3.1 Tony: > I have just installed mx 4.1 on our 4100 running vms 6.0 and ucx 3.1. incoming > mail seems to be working fine but when i send to another node the message > stays in the INPROG state. Look at these: 1. In UCX, is SMTP off? 2. Did the INET logicals get defined (something like this) "UCX$INET_DOMAIN" = "Bemidji.MSUS.edu" "UCX$INET_HOST" = "BEAVER.HS.Bemidji.MSUS.edu" "UCX$INET_HOSTADDR" = "134.29.130.1" Dave Miller. //----------\|/------\\ Professor, Computer Science. || /\ -X- || || / \ /|/\ || DMILLER@BEAVER.HS.Bemidji.MSUS.EDU || / \ / \ || || / \ \ || 1500 Birchmont Dr. NE || /________\____\ || Bemidji State University || || || || Bemidji MN, 56601 \\------|| -------// ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 12:43:31 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 13:08:59 EDT From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: uunet!WKUVX1.WKU.EDU!mx-list@esseye.si.com CC: spinillo@marywood1.marywood.edu Message-ID: <009827EB.9E8C1C80.28@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: HELP mx 4.1 ucx 3.1 Anthony Spinillo (spinillo@marywood1.marywood.edu) writes: >I have just installed mx 4.1 on our 4100 running vms 6.0 and ucx 3.1. incoming >mail seems to be working fine but when i send to another node >the message stays in the INPROG state. > >what have i forgotten/ It;s hard to tell what you've forgotten when you don't tell us what you have? On the system that's not working, what are the MX logical name definitions? What is in your CONFIG file? What do the debug logs say? You have to share at least a little diagnotic information. We're not psychic. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- Brian Tillman | Internet: tillman@swdev.si.com Smiths Industries, Inc. | tillman_brian@si.com 4141 Eastern Ave., MS129 | Hey, I said this stuff myself. Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 14:41:57 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: HELP mx 4.1 ucx 3.1 Message-ID: <31u19t$2oi@news.arc.nasa.gov> From: wing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Date: 5 Aug 1994 18:44:13 GMT Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <009827E2.42417D20.1700@marywood1.marywood.edu>, tony spinillo writes: #I have just installed mx 4.1 on our 4100 running vms 6.0 and ucx 3.1. incoming mail seems to be working fine but when i send to another node #the message stays in the INPROG state. # #what have i forgotten/ Enable debugging for the ROUTER and SMTP. See the MX Management Guide for information on how to enable debugging. Then do: MCP> QUEUE READY nn -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 15:28:42 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 15:28:24 EDT From: "David Harrold, Milwaukee School Of Engineering" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <009827FF.18D55E80.3@barcly.acsd.msoe.edu> Subject: Re: HELP mx 4.1 ucx 3.1 In article <009827E2.42417D20.1700@marywood1.marywood.edu>, tony spinillo writes: >I have just installed mx 4.1 on our 4100 running vms 6.0 and ucx 3.1. incoming >mail seems to be working fine but when i send to another node >the message stays in the INPROG state. > >what have i forgotten/ I just had this problem when I upgraded to MX 4.1 and UCX 3.1. In my case, it was a UCX problem not an MX problem. Look back on the list archive and you will see Hunter's answer about defining some UCX logical names in systartup_v5.com (or systartup_vms.com). What actually fixed it for me was slightly different. I noticed (eventually :-) that I was getting an error on the UCX startup. Something like, Invalid value for /LOCAL_HOST qualifier. (sorry, I don't have the startup logs handy right now). I fixed it by going in and reconfiguring the host name and domain name for my system. Then the SMTP agent worked correctly. For example: my full host name: barcly.acsd.msoe.edu UCX definition: same as above (caused the error) To fix: UCX> SET CONFIGURATION COMMUNICATION/LOCAL_HOST="barcly" UCX> SET CONFIGURATION COMMUNICATION/DOMAIN="acsd.msoe.edu" Hope this helps. Dave Harrold ............................................................................... David Harrold harrold@msoe.edu ACSD Systems Manager Milwaukee School Of Engineering Phone: 414-277-7286 Academic Computing Services Department 1025 N. Broadway Street Milwaukee, WI 53202-3109 ............................................................................... "Someday utilities will be user friendly, not Unix" - Ehud Gavron ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 19:58:52 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: skm@world.std.com (Susan K. Murie) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: What is MX? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 00:41:38 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I received mail from someone with mx at the end of the address. I am totally unfamiliar with what this means. I would like to know. Thankyou. -- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Susan K. Murie skm@world.std.com angels can fly because they take themselves lightly ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 21:03:46 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 20:02:57 MDT From: Mark Tarka Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00982825.739A1B00.6@earth.oscs.montana.edu> Subject: RE: What is MX? Hi Susan. You said: >I received mail from someone with mx at the end of the address. I am >totally unfamiliar with what this means. I would like to know. Since you don't provide an example, I'd have to make a guess based upon your statement. If the address was this: user@host.domain.mx, then I'd have to say I too am totally unfamiliar with what this means. Mark ichjsmt@earth.oscs.montana.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 1994 00:16:51 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 23:16:04 MDT From: Mark Tarka Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <00982840.6DBADB00.5@earth.oscs.montana.edu> Subject: When is monthly archive created ? I have five MX guides (INSTALL, MGMT, MLF, PROG, USER). Using EVE's FIND archive provided little information on when a monthly mail archive is created. My experience indicates that the archive for a given month exists at all times for that month, new messages added as they come into the server. My questions are: 1. When (day and time) is the archive file for the old month closed, and a new month's file created (presumably initiated and available when a new message for that month arrives)? 2. Can the time of closing of the old file/start of new file be manipulated? 3. How critical is the timing of the events in 1.? For example, is the new archive folder opened first, then the old closed? Why do I ask? I think I can put together a routine which will extract a mail directory of a list's postings, clean up the entry lines, possibly do a count of (e.g.) repeated "RE:" postings, and write this summary to a new file. The result would be a table of contents for the month's archive. The process might even be useful for uncovering FAQs. I would want to capture the information from a dummy account, which only collects all the posts distributed by the server. Keeping in step with MX's change of archive files would be the goal, matching the externally generated table of contents with the archive file's collection of posts. ichjsmt@earth.oscs.montana.edu VAXstation 4000-60 VMS 5.5-2 (What's my tab total, Bartender; am I good for another round?) BTW, if it's 23:16:02.28 MDT, is it 5:16:02.28 UT ? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 1994 10:36:31 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: ccdarg@zippy.dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: RE: What is MX? Message-ID: <1994Aug6.133316.6481@zippy> Date: 6 Aug 94 13:33:16 +0100 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <00982825.739A1B00.6@earth.oscs.montana.edu>, Mark Tarka writes: > Hi Susan. > > You said: > >>I received mail from someone with mx at the end of the address. I am >>totally unfamiliar with what this means. I would like to know. > > Since you don't provide an example, I'd have to make a guess based upon > your statement. > > If the address was this: user@host.domain.mx, then I'd have to say I > too am totally unfamiliar with what this means. $ whois mx Mexico (United Mexican States) top-level domain (MX-DOM) Instituto Tecnologico y de Estudios Superiores de Monterrey Suc. de Correos "J" C.P. 64849 Monterrey, N.L. MEXICO Domain Name: MX Administrative Contact: Garcia, Hugo E. (HEG6) hgarcia@mexnet.mty.itesm.mx +52-83-58-2000 ext. 4130 FAX: (83) 58-809-31 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Mancera, Ing. Erick (IEM2) emancera@MTECV2.MTY.ITESM.MX +52-8-358-20-00 ext. 4133 (FAX) +52-8-369-20-04 Record last updated on 14-Feb-94. [etc] -- Alan Greig Janet: A.Greig@uk.ac.dct University of Abertay Dundee Internet: A.Greig@dct.ac.uk Tel: (0382) 308810 Int +44 382 308810 -- Pavlov's dog: the runt of the litter? -- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 1994 12:56:25 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: madison@tgv.com (Matt Madison) Subject: Re: When is monthly archive created ? Date: 6 Aug 1994 17:13:19 GMT Message-ID: <320gbf$irl@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <00982840.6DBADB00.5@earth.oscs.montana.edu>, Mark Tarka writes: & I have five MX guides (INSTALL, MGMT, MLF, PROG, USER). Using EVE's & FIND archive provided little information on when a monthly mail archive & is created. & & My experience indicates that the archive for a given month exists at all & times for that month, new messages added as they come into the server. & My questions are: & & 1. When (day and time) is the archive file for the old month closed, & and a new month's file created (presumably initiated and available when & a new message for that month arrives)? The archive file is opened and closed as messages are added to it. So a particular month's archive will get created when the first message that month comes in and needs archiving. & 2. Can the time of closing of the old file/start of new file be & manipulated? No. & 3. How critical is the timing of the events in 1.? For example, is the & new archive folder opened first, then the old closed? No. & Why do I ask? I think I can put together a routine which will extract & a mail directory of a list's postings, clean up the entry lines, & possibly do a count of (e.g.) repeated "RE:" postings, and write this & summary to a new file. The result would be a table of contents for the & month's archive. The process might even be useful for uncovering FAQs. I've written a program that parses the headers directly out of an archive file and spits out the author, date/time stamp, and subject of each message. I don't know if this would be of use to you, but if you're interested in the code, drop me a line. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | madison@tgv.com | +1 408 457 5390 TGV, Inc. | 101 Cooper Street | Santa Cruz, CA 95060 USA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 03:49:15 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 10:46:42 EDT From: Mario Jose Bernardes Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu CC: mjb@gemini.ci.uc.pt Message-ID: <00982A33.3D7EA9EF.1@gemini.ci.uc.pt> Subject: Colon in address crash MX Local I am using MX 4.1 on a DEC 7000-610 with OpenVMS 1.5. Some messages with a colon in address filed, crash my MX_Local. For example, the following message was received by the Postmaster after restarting MX Local: >From: MX%"Postmaster@gemini.ci.uc.pt" >To: MX%"<@PTEARN.CC.FC.UL.PT:ASTRO@GITVM1.BITNET>" >CC: MX%"Postmaster@gemini.ci.uc.pt" >Subj: LOCAL delivery error > >Return-Path: <> >Date: Sat, 06 Aug 1994 02:58:18 EDT >From: Local delivery agent >To: <@PTEARN.CC.FC.UL.PT:ASTRO@GITVM1.BITNET> >CC: Postmaster@gemini.ci.uc.pt >Subject: LOCAL delivery error >X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:" > >Note: this message was generated automatically. > >An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of >the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that >allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect >addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. > >--> Error description: >Error-For: caos@gemini.ci.uc.pt >Error-Code: 2 >Error-Text: Error in delivery to user CAOS > %MAIL-E-SENDERR, error sending to user CAOS > -MAIL-E-NOSUCHUSR, no such user CAOS > -SMG-F-SHMNOTCNCT, shared memory not connected > >Error-End: 1 error detected > >------------------------------ Rejected message ------------------------------ Exactly the same situation occured with a message with the following Return-Path: @pp-switch.cambridge.ac.uk:k.m.brindle@biochemestry.cambridge.ac.uk How can I avoid the MX-Local crash ? Thanks in advance for any help. -- Mario Bernardes System and Network Manager Centro de Informatica da Univ. Coimbra PORTUGAL ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 05:28:37 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 18:58:34 +0900 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: tim@twics.com (Tim Burress) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: Access Violation in MLF with Bang-Path From: Address >Every single address that comes through my MX is a bang path. I never have >trouble. It's been this way since MX V3.0 Are you running MLF? We have no problem with mail coming through, but the MLF code seems to choke. Or then again, the address format may just be a coincidence, hiding another bug that causes an access violation, but I hope not! Tim ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 06:16:56 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 13:17:15 gmt+2 From: Pasztor Miklos Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: pasztor@HUGBOX.SZTAKI.HU Message-ID: <00982A48.45EA13C0.13@HUGBOX.SZTAKI.HU> Subject: MCP QUE SHOW/BR crashes All of a sudden I experience the following when I do an MCP QUE SHOW/BR: $mcp que show/br SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=01, virtual address=0260B344, PC =0000CAE9, PSL=03C00000 Improperly handled condition, image exit forced. Signal arguments Stack contents Number = 00000005 00000000 Name = 0000000C 00000000 00000001 00000000 0260B344 2FFC0000 0000CAE9 7FF09060 03C00000 00000000 20FC0000 7FF09060 7FF09024 0000C2C9 Register dump R0 = 00982764 R1 = 00000000 R2 = 7FF08FDC R3 = 7FF08DD0 R4 = 000381F0 R5 = 000015B4 R6 = 0002DCE0 R7 = 0002DEF8 R8 = 00000000 R9 = 00000000 R10= 00000000 R11= 00000000 AP = 7FF08D00 FP = 7FF08CC0 SP = 7FF08D3C PC = 0000CAE9 PSL= 03C00000 MCP QUE SHOW, MCP QUE SHOW/ALL and all other MCP and MX operations seem to work normally. I did: - MCP QUE SYNC - upgrade to MX 4.1 (the problem started last week with MX 4.0) - MCP QUE COMP The problem persists. What's wrong ? TIA, Miklos ============================================================= Pasztor Miklos pasztor@hugbox.sztaki.hu MTA SZTAKI/ASZI Budapest 1132. Victor H. u 18-22. I. em. 125. | Tel: (36-1)-129-48-41 Institute for Computation and Automation, Hungarian Academy of Sciences ============================================================= ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 06:29:29 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 13:29:50 gmt+2 From: Pasztor Miklos Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: pasztor@HUGBOX.SZTAKI.HU Message-ID: <00982A4A.07E033A0.135@HUGBOX.SZTAKI.HU> Subject: RE: MCP QUE SHOW/BR crashes The problem disappeared. But it _is_ strange how. I did: $ MCP QUE STAT %MCP-I-QSTATUS, total entries: 38363/10000 (383%) Highest entry used: 979 (9%) ??????-----------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ $ MCP QUE SYNC $ MCP QUE STAT %MCP-I-QSTATUS, total entries: 16/10000 (0%) Highest entry used: 979 (9%) After this MCP QUE SHOW/BR crashes no more ! Miklos ============================================================= Pasztor Miklos pasztor@hugbox.sztaki.hu MTA SZTAKI/ASZI Budapest 1132. Victor H. u 18-22. I. em. 125. | Tel: (36-1)-129-48-41 Institute for Computation and Automation, Hungarian Academy of Sciences ============================================================= ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 07:16:25 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 07:16:03 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00982A15.D000F778.35@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MCP QUE SHOW/BR crashes Pasztor Miklos writes: > > The problem disappeared. > But it _is_ strange how. > There was a bug in MX V4.0 that left the counters in a funky state. Building a new queue file will correct the problem. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 08:16:15 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wdejonge@inter.NL.net (W.G. de Jonge) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: where to get it ? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 13:05:46 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hi, Where can i get MX for my VAX/VMS system and dous it run on TCP-WARE ? Email to : martijn@arbor.gds.nl Thanx.... ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 08:17:53 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 08:17:35 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: MARTIJN@ARBOR.GDS.NL Message-ID: <00982A1E.689B018D.17@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: where to get it ? wdejonge@inter.NL.net (W.G. de Jonge) writes: > >Hi, > >Where can i get MX for my VAX/VMS system and dous it run on TCP-WARE ? > Look on ftp.wku.edu in [.MX041] or on ftp.vms.stacken.kth.se in [.WKU.MX.MX041]. Yes, MX works with TCPware. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:05:35 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 17:02:17 GMT From: "Andy Harper, KCL Systems Manager" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu CC: udaa055@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk Message-ID: <00982A67.B59BBBA0.315@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk> Subject: MX wishlist item Here's an item or two for the MX wishlist... I have modified the MX startup so that MX Local runs without EXQUOTA privilege. This prevents mail delivery to those users who have been given a limited disk quota and prevents malicious users from being able to fill up the disks. However, many of our users are on mailing lists and have gone away for the summer holidays. This has resulted in a VERY large queue of messages waiting for local delivery for up to 2 days. Each will fail in due course since there's no chance of most users coming back until october. The problem cleans itself up eventually but not without some side effects. So my wish list items, to minimize the problems caused, are as follows: 1. Can we have a configuration item which allows sites to choose whether MX runs with or without EXQUOTA? 2. Can we have a means of detecting items in the queue which cannot be delivered due to insufficient disk quota and have them bounced back to the sender much more quickly than normal? I have frigged this by reducing the retry count for the local process but that might upset genuine requeuing for other less serious LOCAL problems (for example, the server with the user's disk on it being down for maintenance). 3. Can we have a mechanism that optionally alerts the system manager to failed messages, caused by lack of quota, independently of other failures? This way I could, for example, find out which users should not be subscribing to remote mailing lists and have them removed. It's quite hard to do with the present system if the queue is large. 4. Following on from 3, could MX be made to auto-unsubscribe users from a mailing list if messages from it cannot be delivered. This might be too complicated when you think how such a list might be detected and also because of the huge variance in unsubscription methods across different lists. However, I toss it in just in case! In the meantime, any suggestions for managing the problem would be gratefully received. Regards, Andy Harper Kings College London ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:23:39 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: MX wishlist item Date: 8 Aug 1994 16:16:58 GMT Message-ID: <325lpq$m96@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <00982A67.B59BBBA0.315@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk>, "Andy Harper, KCL Systems Manager" writes: #Here's an item or two for the MX wishlist... [...] # 3. Can we have a mechanism that optionally alerts the system manager to # failed messages, caused by lack of quota, independently of other # failures? This way I could, for example, find out which users should # not be subscribing to remote mailing lists and have them removed. It's # quite hard to do with the present system if the queue is large. Something different than the current CC'ing to Postmaster for local delivery failures? # 4. Following on from 3, could MX be made to auto-unsubscribe users from a # mailing list if messages from it cannot be delivered. This might be # too complicated when you think how such a list might be detected and # also because of the huge variance in unsubscription methods across # different lists. However, I toss it in just in case! If the site hosting the mailing list is running Eric Thomas' LISTSERV, and the manager at that site setup LISTSERV to do it, they will automatically get unsubscribed from the mailing list. This is why MX includes the text: An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. --> Error description: Error-For: bounce@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Error-Code: 3 Error-Text: No such local user Error-End: 1 error detected and the RFC822 header: X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:" However, MX doesn't know how to unsubscribe someone from bounces that are generated by MX (for example, if you run MX, and are subscribed to MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU (which is a mailing list that is run by the MX software), and your account disappears, MX at your system will send a bounce back to WKUVX1, but MX at WKUVX1.WKU.EDU doesn't automatically handle unsubscribing you from the mailing list -- Hunter would have to do it manually. -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:36:09 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 17:32:42 GMT From: "Andy Harper, KCL Systems Manager" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <00982A6B.F5725DC0.110@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk> Subject: MX wishlist items... Dan Wing writes, in repsonse to my request... ># 3. Can we have a mechanism that optionally alerts the system manager to ># failed messages, caused by lack of quota, independently of other ># failures? This way I could, for example, find out which users should ># not be subscribing to remote mailing lists and have them removed. It's ># quite hard to do with the present system if the queue is large. > >Something different than the current CC'ing to Postmaster for local delivery >failures? Yes I believe so. The quota failure is one that will occur because of the local user's actions in not maintaining sufficient free space. Other local delivery failures are usually (not always) because of a mistake by the sender (eg. mispelled username). I would prefer it if postmaster were not troubled by such mistakes (since I'm postmaster here!) whereas I do want to know if one of our users is causing problems for lists to which he/she is subscribed. ># 4. Following on from 3, could MX be made to auto-unsubscribe users from a ># mailing list if messages from it cannot be delivered. This might be ># too complicated when you think how such a list might be detected and ># also because of the huge variance in unsubscription methods across ># different lists. However, I toss it in just in case! > >If the site hosting the mailing list is running Eric Thomas' LISTSERV, and >the manager at that site setup LISTSERV to do it, they will automatically >get unsubscribed from the mailing list. This is why MX includes the text: Very true but there are zillions of sites running other LISTSERVs which do not have the intelligence to act on such error reports. I've known list servers that blindly rebroadcast the error message to all recipients, not only irritating them but compounding the problem by setting up an infinite loop. If all list server's could detect this I'ld be happy ! >However, MX doesn't know how to unsubscribe someone from bounces that are >generated by MX (for example, if you run MX, and are subscribed to >MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU (which is a mailing list that is run by the MX >software), and your account disappears, MX at your system will send a bounce >back to WKUVX1, but MX at WKUVX1.WKU.EDU doesn't automatically handle >unsubscribing you from the mailing list -- Hunter would have to do it >manually. Perhaps it ought to know how? Since it goes to the trouble of generating the special error report, it seems odd it'll then ignore its own error! Thanks for the input. Regards, Andy Harper Kings College London ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 13:09:25 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: MX wishlist items... Date: 8 Aug 1994 17:54:07 GMT Message-ID: <325rfv$n68@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <00982A6B.F5725DC0.110@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk>, "Andy Harper, KCL Systems Manager" writes: #># 4. Following on from 3, could MX be made to auto-unsubscribe users from a #># mailing list if messages from it cannot be delivered. This might be #># too complicated when you think how such a list might be detected and #># also because of the huge variance in unsubscription methods across #># different lists. However, I toss it in just in case! #> #>If the site hosting the mailing list is running Eric Thomas' LISTSERV, and #>the manager at that site setup LISTSERV to do it, they will automatically #>get unsubscribed from the mailing list. This is why MX includes the text: # # Very true but there are zillions of sites running other LISTSERVs which do # not have the intelligence to act on such error reports. Including MX, and, I believe, PMDF. #I've known list # servers that blindly rebroadcast the error message to all recipients, not # only irritating them but compounding the problem by setting up an infinite # loop. If all list server's could detect this I'ld be happy ! The difficulty is compounded by "how do you automatically unsubscribe someone from a remote mailing list"? It is impossible to design an algorithm that would work for Majordomo-, PMDF-, MX-, and LISTSERV-based mailing list -- they take different commands, may or may not work with mailing-list-REQUEST@site getting the commands, etc. Or am I missing what you're saying? #>However, MX doesn't know how to unsubscribe someone from bounces that are #>generated by MX (for example, if you run MX, and are subscribed to #>MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU (which is a mailing list that is run by the MX #>software), and your account disappears, MX at your system will send a bounce #>back to WKUVX1, but MX at WKUVX1.WKU.EDU doesn't automatically handle #>unsubscribing you from the mailing list -- Hunter would have to do it #>manually. # # Perhaps it ought to know how? Since it goes to the trouble of generating the # special error report, it seems odd it'll then ignore its own error! Hunter simply hasn't added that as a feature of MX (yet). -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 14:43:27 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 14:43:07 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00982A54.4490E5EC.28@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MX wishlist items... "Andy Harper, KCL Systems Manager" writes: > >>Something different than the current CC'ing to Postmaster for local delivery >>failures? > > Yes I believe so. The quota failure is one that will occur because of the > local user's actions in not maintaining sufficient free space. Other local > delivery failures are usually (not always) because of a mistake by the sender > (eg. mispelled username). I would prefer it if postmaster were not troubled > by such mistakes (since I'm postmaster here!) whereas I do want to know if > one of our users is causing problems for lists to which he/she is subscribed. > I suspect that Postmaster and list master (not list owner) are the same person for most sites.... >>However, MX doesn't know how to unsubscribe someone from bounces that are >>generated by MX (for example, if you run MX, and are subscribed to >>MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU (which is a mailing list that is run by the MX >>software), and your account disappears, MX at your system will send a bounce >>back to WKUVX1, but MX at WKUVX1.WKU.EDU doesn't automatically handle >>unsubscribing you from the mailing list -- Hunter would have to do it >>manually. > > Perhaps it ought to know how? Since it goes to the trouble of generating the > special error report, it seems odd it'll then ignore its own error! > When days are 48 hours long.... It's been my experience that 9 times out of 10, the address won't be removed anyway, because the mailer on the other end is brain-dead, the bounce comes from one of the users' other systems at that site, etc. Still, it's on the wish list, where it's been since I added the LISTSERV-compatible error messages. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 16:17:03 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 16:17:44 CST From: Howard Meadows Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00982A61.7C5BB940.1@cslvax.weeg.uiowa.edu> Subject: Wierd Bounces I have encountered a problem with bounced mail that I hope someone can help me out with. Here's what happens... Two messages are sent (from different hosts) to the same address on my VAX running VMS 5.5-2, with UCX 2.0, and MX 4.0-1. One message gets through fine, but the other gets bounced with the following transcript: -Transcript: -Rcvd: 220 vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu MX V4.0-1 VAX SMTP server ready at Fri, 05 Aug 1994 16:36:33 CST -Sent: HELO vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu -Rcvd: 250 Hello, vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu -Sent: MAIL FROM: -Rcvd: 250 MAIL command accepted. -Sent: RCPT TO: -Rcvd: 250 Recipient okay (at least in form) -Sent: DATA -Rcvd: 354 Start mail input; end with . -Rcvd: 554 Received too many times by this host. -Sent: QUIT -Rcvd: 221 vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu Service closing transmission channel I looked at the headers of the two messages, and I could see no obvious differences (only slight format differences on the second Received: line and the Date: line). Here are the two sets of headers: ============= First note (this one went through fine) ===================== From edhill@iacrcu.crc.uiowa.edu Mon Aug 8 15:39:18 1994 Received: from iacrcu.crc.uiowa.edu by strobe.weeg.uiowa.edu (8.6.8.1/940408) on Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:39:17 -0500 id PAA25583 with SMTP Received: by iacrcu.crc.uiowa.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA08894; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:42:11 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:42:11 -0500 From: edhill@iacrcu.crc.uiowa.edu (Ed Hill) Message-Id: <9408082042.AA08894@iacrcu.crc.uiowa.edu> To: edhill@strobe.weeg.uiowa.edu Subject: Test ============= Second note (this one bounced) ============================== From edhill@chop.isca.uiowa.edu Mon Aug 8 15:39:47 1994 Received: from chop.isca.uiowa.edu by strobe.weeg.uiowa.edu (8.6.8.1/940408) on Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:39:46 -0500 id PAA25595 with SMTP Received: by chop.isca.uiowa.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA15330; Mon, 8 Aug 94 15:36:51 GMT-0600 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 94 15:36:51 GMT-0600 From: edhill@chop.isca.uiowa.edu (Ed Hill) Message-Id: <9408082136.AA15330@chop.isca.uiowa.edu> To: edhill@strobe.weeg.uiowa.edu Subject: Test Can anyone give me a clue as to what may be wrong here? What does "Received too many times by this host." mean? If you need more information, let me know what you need & I'll try to get it for you. TIA, Howard *************************************************************************** * Howard Meadows Sr. Systems Programmer Weeg Computing Center * * University Of Iowa Iowa City, Iowa 52242 Phone: 319-335-5519 * * email: howard-meadows@uiowa.edu FAX : 319-335-5505 * *************************************************************************** ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 18:51:32 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: mfleming@csubak.edu (Michael W. Fleming) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Error: Received too many times by this host. Date: 8 Aug 1994 22:51:16 GMT Message-ID: To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Below is a message that was bounced by MX on my system. The user is valid as is the host (csbina.csubak.edu is a CNAME for academic.csubak.edu). The error message from MX apparently is "-Rcvd: 554 Received too many times by this host." I can't find any information in the MX manuals (at least in the places I could think to look via the indices). My first guess is that it has something to do with trying to stop a vicious loop often caused by automatic vacation mailer type programs. However, I can't find anything manuals about that either. So, if someone can help me figure out if I have a problem or if the other site has the problem, I would appreciate it. Thanks, Michael --------------------------- From Mon Aug 8 11:26:06 1994 Received: from academic.csubak.edu by condor.psych.ucsb.edu (4.1/PSYCH.UCSB-v1.3R) id AA24741; Mon, 8 Aug 94 11:26:06 PDT Message-Id: <9408081826.AA24741@condor.psych.ucsb.edu> Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:28:35 PST From: SMTP delivery agent To: Subject: SMTP delivery error X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:" Note: this message was generated automatically. An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. --> Error description: Error-For: jdeegan@csbina.csubak.edu Error-Code: 2 Error-Text: %MX_SMTP-F-TRANSACTION_FAI, transaction failed -(Via csbina.csubak.edu) -Transcript: -Rcvd: 220 academic.csubak.edu MX V4.1 VAX SMTP server ready at Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:28:34 PST -Sent: HELO academic.csubak.edu -Rcvd: 250 Hello, academic.csubak.edu -Sent: MAIL FROM: -Rcvd: 250 MAIL command accepted. -Sent: RCPT TO: -Rcvd: 250 Recipient okay (at least in form) -Sent: DATA -Rcvd: 354 Start mail input; end with . -Rcvd: 554 Received too many times by this host. -Sent: QUIT -Rcvd: 221 academic.csubak.edu Service closing transmission channel Error-End: 1 error detected ------------------------------ Rejected message ------------------------------ Received: from academic.csubak.edu by academic.csubak.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:28:32 PST Received: from academic.csubak.edu by academic.csubak.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:28:29 PST Received: from academic.csubak.edu by academic.csubak.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:28:27 PST Received: from condor.psych.ucsb.edu by academic.csubak.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:28:25 PST Received: by condor.psych.ucsb.edu (4.1/PSYCH.UCSB-v1.3R) id AA24709; Mon, 8 Aug 94 11:25:31 PDT From: smits@condor.psych.ucsb.edu (Jacek Smits) Message-ID: <9408081825.AA24709@condor.psych.ucsb.edu> Subject: Forwarding problem X-MX-Warning: Warning -- Invalid "To" header. To: deegan (Jess Deegan II;x2446) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 94 11:25:31 PDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Jess, We are stil running into forwarding problems on your account here. For rigth now I took out the vacation message so that email gets forwarded to you and nothing more. I'll see if that takes care of the problem. -- Jacek -- Michael W. Fleming, Network Manager, Computer Services California State University, 9001 Stockdale Hwy, Bakersfield, Ca. 93311-1099 Voice/mail:(805)664-2115 (24hrs) Fax:(805)664-2099 (24hrs) mfleming@academic.csubak.edu Disclaim: I directly represent only myself and my family; indirectly, I represent God and all His creation. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 19:11:53 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 18:10:32 MDT From: Mark Tarka Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00982A71.3E1BCCA0.19@earth.oscs.montana.edu> Subject: RE: Wierd Bounces <00982A61.7C5BB940.1@cslvax.weeg.uiowa.edu>, Howard Meadows writes: > I have encountered a problem with bounced mail that I hope someone >can help me out with. Here's what happens... > > Two messages are sent (from different hosts) to the same address on my >VAX running VMS 5.5-2, with UCX 2.0, and MX 4.0-1. One message gets through >fine, but the other gets bounced with the following transcript: > -Transcript: > -Rcvd: 220 vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu MX V4.0-1 VAX SMTP server ready at Fri, 05 >Aug 1994 16:36:33 CST > -Sent: HELO vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu > -Rcvd: 250 Hello, vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu > -Sent: MAIL FROM: > -Rcvd: 250 MAIL command accepted. > -Sent: RCPT TO: > -Rcvd: 250 Recipient okay (at least in form) > -Sent: DATA > -Rcvd: 354 Start mail input; end with . > -Rcvd: 554 Received too many times by this host. > -Sent: QUIT > -Rcvd: 221 vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu Service closing transmission channel > >I looked at the headers of the two messages, and I could see no obvious >differences (only slight format differences on the second Received: line >and the Date: line). Here are the two sets of headers: > >============= First note (this one went through fine) ===================== >From edhill@iacrcu.crc.uiowa.edu Mon Aug 8 15:39:18 1994 >Received: from iacrcu.crc.uiowa.edu by strobe.weeg.uiowa.edu (8.6.8.1/940408) > on Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:39:17 -0500 id PAA25583 with SMTP >Received: by iacrcu.crc.uiowa.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) > id AA08894; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:42:11 -0500 >Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:42:11 -0500 >From: edhill@iacrcu.crc.uiowa.edu (Ed Hill) >Message-Id: <9408082042.AA08894@iacrcu.crc.uiowa.edu> >To: edhill@strobe.weeg.uiowa.edu >Subject: Test > > >============= Second note (this one bounced) ============================== >From edhill@chop.isca.uiowa.edu Mon Aug 8 15:39:47 1994 >Received: from chop.isca.uiowa.edu by strobe.weeg.uiowa.edu (8.6.8.1/940408) > on Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:39:46 -0500 id PAA25595 with SMTP >Received: by chop.isca.uiowa.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) > id AA15330; Mon, 8 Aug 94 15:36:51 GMT-0600 >Date: Mon, 8 Aug 94 15:36:51 GMT-0600 >From: edhill@chop.isca.uiowa.edu (Ed Hill) >Message-Id: <9408082136.AA15330@chop.isca.uiowa.edu> >To: edhill@strobe.weeg.uiowa.edu >Subject: Test > > > Can anyone give me a clue as to what may be wrong here? What does >"Received too many times by this host." mean? If you need more information, >let me know what you need & I'll try to get it for you. Here's some more data. I had a bounce, from a distributed list. However, the header clearly showed the multiplicity of the process. My mail (appended) to the Postmaster should explain all. I've received no reply, and haven't had another post distributed (so I don't know if anything was done to fix the problem). Mark ichjsmt@EARTH.OSCS.MONTANA.EDU --- From: EARTH::ICHJSMT "Mark Tarka" 3-AUG-1994 19:16:33.36 To: MX%"postmaster@shire.ac.arknet.edu" CC: ICHJSMT Subj: Looping problem ? I'm the list owner referenced in the appended, edited, message. There seems to be a looping problem, where? I'd like our posts to reach this subscriber. Contact me if I can help. OTOH, try Postmaster@earth.oscs.montana.edu Mark --------------------------------------------- From: MX%"Postmaster@shire.ac.arknet.edu" 3-AUG-1994 15:07:37.67 To: MX%"owner-msnmr-l@earth.oscs.montana.edu" CC: Subj: SMTP delivery error Return-Path: Received: from shire.ac.arknet.edu by earth.oscs.montana.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Aug 1994 15:07:25 MDT Date: Wed, 03 Aug 1994 16:13:40 CDT From: SMTP delivery agent To: Subject: SMTP delivery error Note: this message was generated automatically. A problem occurred during SMTP delivery of your message. Error occurred sending to the following user(s): (via SHIRE.LYON.EDU): %MX_SMTP-F-TRANSACTION_FAI, transaction failed Transcript: Rcvd: 220 shire.ac.arknet.edu MX V3.1A SMTP server ready at Wed, 03 Aug 1994 16:13:35 CDT Sent: HELO shire.ac.arknet.edu Rcvd: 250 Hello, shire.ac.arknet.edu Sent: MAIL FROM: Rcvd: 250 MAIL command accepted. Sent: RCPT TO: Rcvd: 250 Recipient okay (at least in form) Sent: DATA Rcvd: 354 Start mail input; end with . Rcvd: 554 Received too many times by this host. Sent: QUIT Rcvd: 221 shire.ac.arknet.edu Service closing transmission channel ======================================================================== Message follows. Received: from shire.ac.arknet.edu by shire.ac.arknet.edu (MX V3.1A) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Aug 1994 16:13:25 CDT Received: from shire.ac.arknet.edu by shire.ac.arknet.edu (MX V3.1A) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Aug 1994 16:13:13 CDT Received: from shire.ac.arknet.edu by shire.ac.arknet.edu (MX V3.1A) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Aug 1994 16:12:55 CDT Received: from shire.ac.arknet.edu by shire.ac.arknet.edu (MX V3.1A) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Aug 1994 16:12:42 CDT Received: from shire.ac.arknet.edu by shire.ac.arknet.edu (MX V3.1A) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Aug 1994 16:12:28 CDT Received: from shire.ac.arknet.edu by shire.ac.arknet.edu (MX V3.1A) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Aug 1994 16:12:16 CDT Received: from shire.ac.arknet.edu by shire.ac.arknet.edu (MX V3.1A) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Aug 1994 16:12:04 CDT Received: from earth.oscs.montana.edu by shire.ac.arknet.edu (MX V3.1A) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Aug 1994 16:11:53 CDT X-ListName: msnmr-l@earth.oscs.montana.edu Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-msnmr-l@earth.oscs.montana.edu Sender: owner-msnmr-l@earth.oscs.montana.edu Received: from ralph.txswu.edu by earth.oscs.montana.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Aug 1994 15:01:14 MDT Received: by ralph.txswu.edu (5.61/1.35) id AA13317; Wed, 3 Aug 94 15:59:47 -0500 From: rawji@ralph.txswu.edu (Dr. Gulnar Rawji) Reply-To: msnmr-l@earth.oscs.montana.edu Message-ID: <9408032059.AA13317@ralph.txswu.edu> Subject: Summary, GC/MS and Hewlett Packard (fwd) To: msnmr-l@earth.oscs.montana.edu Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 15:59:44 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 11260 Forwarded message: > > To all: > > As promised, here is a summary of responses I received to my inquiry > [REMAINING TEXT DELETED] ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 20:43:21 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 19:42:27 MDT From: Mark Tarka Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00982A7E.15359A20.5@earth.oscs.montana.edu> Subject: RE: Wierd Bounces Hi Howard, =From: MX%"MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU" 8-AUG-1994 16:15:42.16 =To: MX%"MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU" =CC: =Subj: Wierd Bounces = =Return-Path: =Received: from WKUVX1.WKU.EDU by earth.oscs.montana.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) with = SMTP; Mon, 08 Aug 1994 16:15:23 MDT =X-ListName: Message Exchange Discussion List =Warnings-To: <> =Errors-To: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU =Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU =Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 16:17:44 CST ^ What about CDT? __________________| =From: Howard Meadows =Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU =To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU =Message-ID: <00982A61.7C5BB940.1@cslvax.weeg.uiowa.edu> =Subject: Wierd Bounces Mark ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 21:06:29 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: Error: Received too many times by this host. Date: 9 Aug 1994 01:49:55 GMT Message-ID: <326nc3$gsb@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article , mfleming@csubak.edu (Michael W. Fleming) writes: =Below is a message that was bounced by MX on my system. The user is valid =as is the host (csbina.csubak.edu is a CNAME for academic.csubak.edu). =The error message from MX apparently is "-Rcvd: 554 Received too many =times by this host." I can't find any information in the MX manuals (at =least in the places I could think to look via the indices). = =My first guess is that it has something to do with trying to stop a =vicious loop often caused by automatic vacation mailer type programs. =However, I can't find anything manuals about that either. = Received: from academic.csubak.edu by academic.csubak.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) =with SMTP; Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:28:32 PST = Received: from academic.csubak.edu by academic.csubak.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) =with SMTP; Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:28:29 PST = Received: from academic.csubak.edu by academic.csubak.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) =with SMTP; Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:28:27 PST = Received: from condor.psych.ucsb.edu by academic.csubak.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) =with SMTP; Mon, 08 Aug 1994 11:28:25 PST Now, doesn't the fact that academic.csubak.edu forwarded the message to itself three consecutive times set off any warning bells for you? Given that it's done that, wouldn't you expect it to continue doing the same thing forever? Now, looking a bit above that in the header, we see: = -Sent: RCPT TO: = -Rcvd: 250 Recipient okay (at least in form) As you note: =as is the host (csbina.csubak.edu is a CNAME for academic.csubak.edu). Now, what's happening is that you haven't told MX that csbina.csubak.edu is a local address. It thinks it's an SMTP address. So it does a lookup, finds the host it's supposed to send to, and initiates an SMTP connection. With itself. This is a loop. This is bad. This can generate messages with huge headers that never get delivered, and go unnoticed until the file gets so big you run out of disk space on the MX spool device. You need to: $ MCR MX_EXE:MCP MCP> REM PATH * MCP> DEF PATH CSBINA.CSUBAK.EDU LOCAL MCP> DEF PATH * SMTP MCP> SHOW ALL/COMM/OUT=MX_DIR:CONFIG.MCP MCP> SAVE MCP> RESET MCP> EXIT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 21:19:28 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: RE: Wierd Bounces Date: 9 Aug 1994 01:56:55 GMT Message-ID: <326np8$gsb@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <00982A71.3E1BCCA0.19@earth.oscs.montana.edu>, Mark Tarka writes: =My mail (appended) to the Postmaster should explain all. I've received =no reply, and haven't had another post distributed (so I don't know if =anything was done to fix the problem). =Received: from shire.ac.arknet.edu by shire.ac.arknet.edu (MX V3.1A) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Aug 1994 16:13:25 CDT =Received: from shire.ac.arknet.edu by shire.ac.arknet.edu (MX V3.1A) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Aug 1994 16:13:13 CDT SHIRE.AC.ARKNET.EDU doesn't recognize the name SHIRE.LYON.EDU as a local host, despite the fact that the name resolves to the same address as does SHIRE.AC.ARKNET.EDU. It's trying to deliver the message via SMTP, connecting to itself, and therefore looping. To fix the problem, on SHIRE.AC.ARKNET.EDU, execute the commands: $ MCR MX_EXE:MCP MCP> REM PATH * MCP> DEF PATH SHIRE.LYON.EDU LOCAL MCP> DEF PATH * SMTP MCP> SHOW ALL/COMM/OUT=MX_DIR:CONFIG.MCP MCP> SAVE MCP> RESET -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 1994 05:39:14 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 09 Aug 1994 11:36:00 GMT From: "Andy Harper, KCL Systems Manager" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: udaa055@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk Message-ID: <00982B03.4ADE5240.354@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk> Subject: Re: MX wishlist items... >#I've known list ># servers that blindly rebroadcast the error message to all recipients, not ># only irritating them but compounding the problem by setting up an infinite ># loop. If all list server's could detect this I'ld be happy ! > >The difficulty is compounded by "how do you automatically unsubscribe someone >from a remote mailing list"? It is impossible to design an algorithm that >would work for Majordomo-, PMDF-, MX-, and LISTSERV-based mailing list -- they >take different commands, may or may not work with mailing-list-REQUEST@site >getting the commands, etc. > >Or am I missing what you're saying? No I don't think you're missing the point. I think I said in my original request that it would be difficult for the very reasons you quote. I was merely expressing a `wouldnt it be nice if' wish. Regards, Andy Harper Kings College London ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 1994 06:28:13 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 09 Aug 1994 06:27:52 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00982AD8.3F7BFB80.44@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: Re: Error: Received too many times by this host. carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) writes: > >$ MCR MX_EXE:MCP >MCP> REM PATH * >MCP> DEF PATH CSBINA.CSUBAK.EDU LOCAL >MCP> DEF PATH * SMTP >MCP> SHOW ALL/COMM/OUT=MX_DIR:CONFIG.MCP >MCP> SAVE >MCP> RESET >MCP> EXIT Thanks for the answering the posts, Carl. Just as an aside, as of MX V4.x, you no longer need to remove the "*" entry before adding a new path. MCP now automatically sorts PATH definitions, eliminating problems caused by the "*" entry not being defined last. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 1994 08:56:04 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Local process dying Message-ID: <1994Aug9.072302@lucy.merrimack.edu> From: rand@lucy.merrimack.edu () Date: Tue, 9 Aug 94 07:23:02 EST Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I don't know if this belongs in the "code-to-clean" pile or the "that's a reasonable thing to happen" pile. So, for what it's worth: My Local processes mysteriously started dying right after startup. After turing on debugging and stuff I tracked it down to a particular entry. The "[no LOCAL_INFO file for this entry]" seems to make sense since the exit status of the Local processes was 10018294 which is the standard "file not found" error. I bagged this entry and the world has been quiet since Cheers, rand Entry: 43, Origin: [SMTP] Status: IN-PROGRESS, size: 496 bytes Created: 7-AUG-1994 09:49:43.08, expires 6-SEP-1994 09:49:43.08 Last modified 7-AUG-1994 09:49:50.42 LOCAL entry #46, status: IN-PROGRESS, size: 496 bytes Created: 7-AUG-1994 09:49:49.66, expires 6-SEP-1994 09:49:43.08 Last modified 8-AUG-1994 13:05:49.38 [no LOCAL_INFO file for this entry] MX_ROOT:[LOCAL]MX_LOCAL_LOG.LOG;299 8-AUG-1994 12:40:08.86 Processing queue entry number 46 MX_ROOT:[LOCAL]MX_LOCAL_WHOOPI.LOG;35 8-AUG-1994 12:39:13.88: MX Local (pid 60A0014D) starting 8-AUG-1994 12:40:09.56: MX Local (pid 60A0014D) exiting, status = 10018294 -- Rand P. Hall, Manager of Systems and Networking Merrimack College, North Andover, MA, USA rand@merrimack.edu Hope's not in Arkansas, it's in 96. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 1994 09:20:47 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: staurinc@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (The Friendly Furball) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Mail Program Date: 9 Aug 1994 13:21:33 GMT Message-ID: <327vst$opa@library.erc.clarkson.edu> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I'm looking for mail programs that run under unix and use SMTP. Can anyone suggest vendors or sources for information? Thanks for you help. Chris Stauring staurinc@craft.camp.clarkson.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 1994 18:20:53 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 09 Aug 1994 17:16:29 MDT From: Ask me about Star Stare '95 Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: m_frazier@borgil.cxo.dec.com Message-ID: <00982B32.DB8F9900.1@borgil.cxo.dec.com> Subject: Personal name for a mailing list? Just out of curiosity, is it possible to attach a "personal name" to a mailing list? Mike ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 1994 19:27:29 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 09 Aug 1994 18:26:37 MDT From: Mark Tarka Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00982B3C.A79DF9C0.16@earth.oscs.montana.edu> Subject: RE: Personal name for a mailing list? > Just out of curiosity, is it possible to attach a "personal name" to a > mailing list? > > Mike Sir. It is my obligation, to ask you to be more specific, perhaps with an EXAMPLE. icjsmt@EARTH.OSCS.MONTANA.EDU ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 03:28:38 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 18:03:46 EST Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: Leonard Layton Subject: Re: Cursor Colours To: Multiple recipients of list WFW-L ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Issue____________: *** TIPP 1472 *** Date_____________: Sat Aug 6 00:28:03 EDT 1994 Publisher________: Hollosi Information eXchange /HIX/ Disclaimer_______: Authors bear full responsibility for their articles. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Send-Articles-To_: or Subscribe________: or Unsubscribe______: or Help_____________: Supervisor_______: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Tartalomjegyzek: ---------------- Felado : *** Nevtelen TIPP Levelezo *** Temakor: Kulfoldi bankszamla ( 12 sor ) Felado : Kadar Zsolt Temakor: telekocsi ( 4 sor ) Felado : ep-hobor@titania.tuwien.ac.at Temakor: ragyujtanek egy notara! ( 22 sor ) Felado : ep-hobor@titania.tuwien.ac.at Temakor: subs@hix.com ( 1 sor ) Felado : sophie.felfoldi@ifla.nl Temakor: BUSINESS RESEARCH VACANCY (A) ( 31 sor ) Felado : Sik Attila Temakor: ??? ( 0 sor ) Felado : bodii@unix1.circ.gwu.edu Temakor: Tandij a Kozgazon ( 55 sor ) Felado : bodii@unix1.circ.gwu.edu Temakor: Kontener indul M.o.-ra ( 29 sor ) Felado : Scott Mincey Temakor: Michael Jackson, a felszabadito ( 33 sor ) Felado : Lovas Eva Temakor: ALLAS ES soURGOS ( 6 sor ) Felado : gonczol@wista.wistar.upenn.edu Temakor: Copyright... ( 20 sor ) Felado : Simon Istva'n Temakor: Szivattyu ( 16 sor ) Felado : Bako Dorottya Temakor: olasz rendorok ( 7 sor ) Felado : szoltan@libware.lib.klte.hu Temakor: Rhinitis Allergica ( 22 sor ) Felado : "szem::netman"@tiiv06.tii.matav.hu Temakor: DM es Ft arak Lengyelorszagban ( 8 sor ) Felado : Kubicsek Ferenc Temakor: Memoria kartya leiras ( 12 sor ) ======================================================= Felado : *** Nevtelen TIPP Levelezo *** Temakor: Kulfoldi bankszamla ( 12 sor ) Idopont: Fri Aug 5 04:25:26 EDT 1994 TIPP #1472 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - A TIPP-en az utobbi idoben sok kerdes merult fel a kulfoldi bankszamlak ugyevel. Mivel en is nemsokara erintett leszek a temaban, kerdeseim: Milyen szankciok erhetik azt a magyar allampolgart, akinek kulfoldi bankszamlaja van? Tortent-e ilyen ugyben felelossegrevonas az utobbi nehany evben? Tud-e valaki ilyen esetrol? Udvozlettel: Netuddki ======================================================= Felado : Kadar Zsolt E-mail : zsolt@duteisp.et.tudelft.nl Temakor: telekocsi ( 4 sor ) Idopont: Fri Aug 5 04:53:13 EDT 1994 TIPP #1472 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TELEKOCSI indul MAGYARORSZAGrol HOLLANDIAba, Delftbe, a BP-Becs-Passau- Nurnberg-Frankfurt-Koln-Haga-Delft utvonalon, augusztus 21-en, esetleg 22-en. Az erdeklodok szombat estig az Email cimemre irhatnak, aztan a 44 312466-os magyarorszagi telefonszamon vagyok elerheto. Zsolt ======================================================= Felado : ep-hobor@titania.tuwien.ac.at Temakor: ragyujtanek egy notara! ( 22 sor ) Idopont: Fri Aug 5 06:55:23 EDT 1994 TIPP #1472 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hello kedves TIPP-elok! Lenne egy keresem: En nagyon gyakran (amikor csak szunet van az egyetemen) jarok Budapestre, ahol ottani tartozkodasom alatt a regi jo barataimmal szinte nap mint nap mulatni jarok es bizony neha elofordul hogy egy bizonyos mennyisegu pia utan egy olyan helyre terunk be ahol magyar notakat huz a primas. Fajo szivvel kivulallokent kell resztvennem a mulatsagban... Ezert kerek mindenkit, akinek file-ban vannak magyar notaszovegei, vagy aki tudja hogy honnan lehet oket lehozni, vagy aki akarmilyen modon ugy erzi hogy nekem egy jo tippel tud szolgalni, hogy jelentkezzen!! El se tudjatok kepzelni hogy mennyire tudtok ezzel nekem segiteni! Elore is koszi!!! O |\ |_\___O __| | ST.Wizard ======================================================= Felado : ep-hobor@titania.tuwien.ac.at Temakor: subs@hix.com ( 1 sor ) Idopont: Fri Aug 5 07:01:11 EDT 1994 TIPP #1472 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - dasfd ======================================================= Felado : sophie.felfoldi@ifla.nl Temakor: BUSINESS RESEARCH VACANCY (A) ( 31 sor ) Idopont: Fri Aug 5 09:30:46 EDT 1994 TIPP #1472 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - FYI Vacancy which could suit a recent graduate in librarianship or information science, or an exceptional student wishing a 1-year placement. Working in a small management consultancy/information broker serving (mainly) large corporate clients, we need someone to develop and maintain our database of information on public procurement across the EU, and to undertake a variety of market and company research to support assignments (usually marketing) as they arise. The position involves local and on-line database work, INTERNET searches, maintaining a small library of company Annual Reports, periodicals and digests, plus research trips to London business libraries. Must be willing to muck-in during project or proposal crises, yet to keep our office staffed and work efficiently alone when consultants are away on projects. Based in Wimbledon. Loads of scope for intelligence and growth; experience gained should appeal either to business libraries or to larger consultancies. Salary modest but reasonable. European (incl East European) languages an advantage.!!!!!!!! More info.: Dr. H. Millar, Management Partners/Europrofile Ltd. tel: 0181 946 4677, fax 0181 946 4599, hmillar@cix.compulink.co.uk ======================================================= Felado : Sik Attila E-mail : brain@cortex.rutgers.edu Temakor: ??? ( 0 sor ) Idopont: Fri Aug 5 09:47:59 EDT 1994 TIPP #1472 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ======================================================= Felado : bodii@unix1.circ.gwu.edu Temakor: Tandij a Kozgazon ( 55 sor ) Idopont: Fri Aug 5 10:21:48 EDT 1994 TIPP #1472 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Forwarded message: >From bodii Tue Jul 12 11:05:20 1994 Subject: Tandij a Kozgazon To: tipp@hix.com Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 11:05:20 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Kedves Kozgazos Tippelok! Tandijjal, palyazati lehtosegkkel kapcsolatosan szeretnek informaciokat kapni a Budapesti Kozgazdasagi Egyetemrol. Arrol van szo, hogy egy nemet lany (keletnemet) Magyarorszagra szeretne menni tanulni, eppen pont a Kozgazra! Engem kerdezett, hogy mik a feltetelek, hogyan lehet ezt nyelb e utni, mennyi a tandij, stb.. "Ask about: 1. Acceptance of AA degree in International Business, 2 year degree from a US Community College following courses taken: Accounting I+II Economics I+II Business Law I Calculus English Spanish History Biology Health Introduction to International Business Economic Development Business Statistics Total credits: 71 2. Work permits for foreign students (German) 3. Possibility of working in foreign companies 4. Living cost / inexpensive places to live" Elore is koszonom faradozasaidat! Valaszt kuldhetsz kozvetlenul a cimemre is: bodii@unix1.circ.gwu.edu ------ Istvan Bodi, M.D. Department of Pathology The George Washington University -- Istvan Bodi, M.D. Department of Pathology The George Washington University ======================================================= Felado : bodii@unix1.circ.gwu.edu Temakor: Kontener indul M.o.-ra ( 29 sor ) Idopont: Fri Aug 5 10:22:56 EDT 1994 TIPP #1472 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Forwarded message: >From bodii Wed Aug 3 16:39:45 1994 Subject: Kontener indul M.o.-ra To: tipp@hix.com Date: Wed, 3 Aug 94 16:39:45 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Kedves Tippelok! Augusztus 12-en kontener indul Magyarorszagra a washingtoni Magyar Nagykovetsegrol kb. meg 20 kobmeter ures hellyel. 1 kobmeter=$100 + biztosistas (optionalis). Pontosabb reszletekert keressetek Magyar Dorat a kovetsegen: (202) 362-6730. Cim: 3910 Shoemaker Street, N.W., Washington D.C. -- Istvan Bodi, M.D. Department of Pathology The George Washington University -- Istvan Bodi, M.D. Department of Pathology The George Washington University ======================================================= Felado : Scott Mincey E-mail : scottm@dorsai.dorsai.org Temakor: Michael Jackson, a felszabadito ( 33 sor ) Idopont: Fri Aug 5 13:21:36 EDT 1994 TIPP #1472 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - BUDAPEST, Hungary (Reuter) - Michael Jackson will shoot a video clip in Budapest, which will feature the 35-year-old pop star as a freedom fighter who helps rid formerly Communist eastern Europe of Soviet troops, a Hungarian newspaper reported Wednesday. The daily Nepszava newspaper said Jackson would arrive in Hungary Friday to shoot the video for a song that will be released in the fall. Idiko Dudas, spokeswoman for one of Budapest's luxury hotels, told Reuters Jackson had reserved its presidential suite. The song would feature Jackson arriving in an east European capital, where he would chase away Soviet troops. The grateful populace would then raise a monument to him, the paper said. Original plans called for a crew to make the video in Budapest without Jackson, whose image was to be copied later in a process called blueboxing. Last Friday, however, Jackson decided he would come to Hungary. It was unclear if the star would be accompanied by his wife, Lisa Marie Presley. Jackson married Presley, the daughter of rock legend Elvis Presley, in May. Sections of Budapest, including a downtown bridge and a main thoroughfare, will be cordoned off over the weekend for the video shoot, Budapest police spokesman Tamas Pohl said. Dudas did not know how long the singer would stay at the Grand Hotel. Nepszava said he would leave Sunday. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- .Azt hiszem almodok... ======================================================= Felado : Lovas Eva E-mail : eval@bif.creighton.edu Temakor: ALLAS ES soURGOS ( 6 sor ) Idopont: Fri Aug 5 14:21:49 EDT 1994 TIPP #1472 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - vEGZETT vegyeszek (szerves kemikusok) Creighton University keres phD studentet szerves kemiai es biokemiai munkara. Peptidszintezis es egy kis preparativ szerves labor munka. Jo lenne minel gyorsabban betolteni. Reszletek tolem. Lovas Eva (Omaha,Nebreska) ======================================================= Felado : gonczol@wista.wistar.upenn.edu Temakor: Copyright... ( 20 sor ) Idopont: Fri Aug 5 16:06:31 EDT 1994 TIPP #1472 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Softver ugyben multkor (kb. egy hete) olvastam valami erdekeset a Nature-ben. Bar csak atfutottam a cikket, de annyit mintha sikerult volna kihamozni, hogy itt az USA-ban a szoftvergyartokat altalaban, de talan Microsoftrol tetelesen is szo volt, arra taszigaljak, hogy a szoftvereiket hasonitsak mas mezei ipari termekekhez, vagyis ha egyszer valaki fizetett ertuk, akkor onnantol kikerulnenek a gyarto hataskorebol es szabadon "terjeszthetokke" valjanak. A dolog tobb, mint erdekes, hiszen akkor a regi szoftvernek lehetne legalisan olcsobb ara es foroghatna a maganpiacon. Persze ketelyeim nekem is vannak, hiszen a softver nem "romlik" es konnyen "szaporithato", de az is biztos, hogy ki lehet talalni "technikakat" a dolog kordaban tartasara. Kulonben a szoftver maganforgalom itt gyakorlat, ugyanolyan konnyu venni olcso, "hasznalt" szoftvereket, mint baseball sapka gyujtemenyt (esetleg az utobbit megis nehezebb). Tud errol valaki valamit kozelebbit (marmint a taszigalasrol)? Attol felek, hogy ettol eseteleg vege lesz az upgradeknek!? (Hiszen az az exkluzivitas miatt eri meg!?) Csaba ======================================================= Felado : Simon Istva'n E-mail : simon@sun60.mszki.kfki.hu Temakor: Szivattyu ( 16 sor ) Idopont: Fri Aug 5 01:25:41 EDT 1994 TIPP #1472 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kedves Gyula! Azt ugyan nem irtad, hogy milyen szivattyurol van szo, de a paramerterek alapjan feltetelezheto, hogy merulo szivattyu. Szemelyes velemenyem szerint amig viz alatt van addig jol le van foldelve a kutban, bar lehet, hogy nem szabvanyos. Ha leszivja a vizet, akkor meg ugy is leeg. Magyar gyartmanyu hasonlo szivattyut a FEVILL (IMI) gyart. Parameterek: 12000-15000 Ft (bolt, es tipus fuggvenye), Max emelesi magassag 8m Max 10m3/h ( 0 m-en) Legolcsobb: VIII. ker Orczy ut IMI markabolt, V. ker Merleg u. IMI markabolt, Hernadi u. Keleti p.u. melett Vasedeny Udv Istvan ======================================================= Felado : Bako Dorottya E-mail : dorka@hercules.elte.hu Temakor: olasz rendorok ( 7 sor ) Idopont: Fri Aug 5 04:21:00 EDT 1994 TIPP #1472 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - A mai Reggeli Kronikaban meginterjuvoltak egy illetekest az olasz rendorok reakcioirol, ha magyar jogositvanyt dugnak az orruk ala. A hirek lesujtoak, allitolag buntetnek rendesen, es minden ellenkezo hireszteles ellenere ragaszkodnak a nemzetkozi papirhoz. Lehet, hogy az olasz rendorok eljarasa nem szabalyos, viszont ez a gyakorlat. Dora ======================================================= Felado : szoltan@libware.lib.klte.hu Temakor: Rhinitis Allergica ( 22 sor ) Idopont: Fri Aug 5 04:52:32 EDT 1994 TIPP #1472 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Udv mindenkinek! Van-e a vonalban olyan,aki a cimben emlitett nyavalyaban szenved,kulonos tekintettel a parlagfu nevu atokra pollenjere. Engem mar cca.kilenc eve "boldogit"minden ev augusztus kozepetol oktober kozepeig.Az iden viszont maris bekoszont. Semmifele gyogyszer,orrcsepp,inhalalas nem hasznal,ugyhogy az utobbi evekben mar csak a szemem egeto viszketeset elensulyozo cseppet szokok feliratni,hogy azert megse kaparjam ki a sajat szemeimet. Szoval,ha van valaki aki hasonszoru korral, kinlodik es van valami csalhatatlan modszere,gyogyszere,ovszere-legalabb a szenvedesek nemi(Nem szexualis,bar az se lenne rossz!) enyhitesere- kerem ossza meg velem. Ja,meg annyit,hogy valamifele injekcio is letezik,ami allitolag egy evre vedettseget nyujt, am amikor rakerdeztem, a kezelo doktorno,elotte felsorolta nehany mellekhatasat ,most csak a csontritkulast emlitve kozuluk.Azt azert talan megsem! Vegulis rendes volt tole,mert igy legalabb nem az injekcio dobozarol tudtam meg-utana miutan beadta.Szoval errol is lemondtam. Ugyhogy,elore is koszi mindenfele segelyt,halam orokre uldozni fogja minazokat aki segiteni probalnak. Jo weekendet mindenkinek,a sorstarsaknak pedig egy jo kiados zaport.Ok tudjak ,miert pont azt! szoltan - debrecen ======================================================= Felado : "szem::netman"@tiiv06.tii.matav.hu Temakor: DM es Ft arak Lengyelorszagban ( 8 sor ) Idopont: Fri Aug 5 05:57:42 EDT 1994 TIPP #1472 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Asszem Vago@fs2... kerdezte. Kethetes az info: 1DM 14.200PZL, de ne a hataron valtsd at. 1Ft 205-210PZL altalaban csak Krakow-ig tudsz valtani. Legolcsobb so~r kb 50Ft, jobbfajta 80-nal indul. Home'r ======================================================= Felado : Kubicsek Ferenc E-mail : kubicsekf@ccsmtp.tii.matav.hu Temakor: Memoria kartya leiras ( 12 sor ) Idopont: Fri Aug 5 08:45:32 EDT 1994 TIPP #1472 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kedves Tippelok! Van-e valakinek 5lete, honnan lehetne leirast szerezni egy osregi memoria bovit o kartyahoz. A kartya 40256 IC-kkel megy (kb 5 millio db van benne) es maximum 3MByte bovitest jelent. Egy nyolckapcsolos switch van rajta. A problema, hogy a kartya bentletekor a videokartya (Tseng 4000 true color - 5-os megszakitas) piszkosul lelassul (kb 5000 helyett 1200 karakter/sec-ra). Valaszokat vagy a TIPP-re, vagy a KUBICSEKF@CC.MATAV.HU internet cimre kerem kuldeni. Koszonettel, Mr. QB =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= =* TIPP VITA SZALON FORUM || *= =* HIR KEP MOZAIK || Hollosi Information eXchange /HIX/ *= =* OTTHONKA MOKA HUNGARY || *= =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= =* Ismerteto: *= =* Segitseg: (NEM hollosi@hix.com !!) *= =* *= =* Hollosi Jozsi. /HIX/ (csak szemelyes levelezesre: ) *= =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 15:42:49 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 15:40:28 CDT From: "George D. Greenwade" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00982BEE.9C25C124.9286@SHSU.edu> Subject: RE: Personal name for a mailing list? > Just out of curiosity, is it possible to attach a "personal name" to a > mailing list? > > Mike If you mean so that it will generate something such as (from this list): > X-ListName: Message Exchange Discussion List use the /DESCRIPTION tag in an MCP DEFINE LIST or MCP MODIFY LIST command -- such as $ MCP MODIFY LIST listinquestion/DESCRIPTION="Narrative string for list" --George %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% George D. Greenwade, Ph.D. Internet: bed_gdg@SHSU.edu Department of Economics and Business Analysis THEnet: SHSU::BED_GDG College of Business Administration Voice: (409) 294-1266 Sam Houston State University FAX: (409) 294-3612 Huntsville, TX 77341-2118 USA %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 16:29:02 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 11 Aug 94 17:28:40 -0400 From: jing@scus1.ctstateu.edu (Nai Jing Luo) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <9408112128.AA14226@scus1.ctstateu.edu> To: MX-List@wkuvx1.wku.edu Subject: RE: Personal name for a mailing list? jing@scus1.ctstatue.edu nai jing luo ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 16:53:07 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: henderson@mln.com (Javier Henderson) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Problems with MAILSHR patch w/VMS 6.1/AXP Message-ID: <1994Aug15.134617.88@cam1> Date: 15 Aug 94 13:46:17 PDT To: Info-VAX@CRVAX.SRI.COM Hello, I downloaded the MAILSHR patch from Hunter's server today, but I'm having trouble applying it. Here's a log of the session: FTP.MAILPATCH$ @DO_PATCH_MAILSHR_ON_VMS_N_AXP_61.COM;1 $ CC PATCH_FOR_AT_MAIN_02.C / OPTION = NOINLINE ! Rest will fail otherwise $ CC PATCH_FOR_AT_SUB_02.C / OPTION = NOINLINE ! Rest will fail otherwise $ SET NOVERIFY $ CC PSEUDO_ADD_ADDR.C $ SET NOVERIFY $ LINK PATCH_FOR_AT_MAIN_02.OBJ, PSEUDO_ADD_ADDR.OBJ, PATCH_FOR_AT_SUB_02.OBJ /E $ SET NOVERIFY $ COPY/LOG SYS$LIBRARY:MAILSHR.EXE * %COPY-S-COPIED, SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]MAILSHR.EXE;5 copied to JNL:[FTP.MAILPATCH]M) $ SET NOVERIFY $ @ BARBIE.COM MAILSHR.EXE MAILSHR.NEW PATCH_FOR_AT_02.EXE 3 5 4 $ dummy_verify = f$verify(0) BARBIE-I-INFO, Reading MAILSHR.EXE and PATCH_FOR_AT_02.EXE - Writing MAILSHR.NE3 Fixing the Fixed Header Information area... Fixing some Image Section Descriptors... Copying the beginning of MAILSHR.EXE... Merging the additional pages from PATCH_FOR_AT_02.EXE... Copying rest of input file... Converting MAILSHR.NEW into a fixed file with 512 bytes per record... BARBIE: - MAILSHR.EXE + PATCH_FOR_AT_02.EXE produced MAILSHR.NEW successfully 355 records reduced into 360 records Options are: IN% answer 1 [this is the DEFAULT] IN:: answer 2 SMTP% answer 3 MX% answer 4 Select the right option [default=1] : 4 replace %X26A48 : 23deff70 = %XD0006B6D ! We apologize for using the force agaie replace %X26E80 : 23de0090 = %X23de08C0 ! Note 2 replace %X4181c : 47fb0402 = %X47e00402 ! Note 3 replace %X41830 : 23620060 = %X47ff041f replace %X41844 : 47e00412 = %X47e20400 replace %X41850 : 23620040 = %X47ff041f replace %X41858 : d3400009 = %Xa77e0000 ! Note 5 replace %X4186c : 23de0830 = %X23deff70 ! Note 6 replace %X41870 : 6bfa8001 = %X6be08001 ! note 7 replace/word %X41835 : e034 = e094 ! 01 --> 04 update $ @ KEN.COM MAILSHR.NEW MAILSHR_NEW.EXE PATCH_MAILSHR_TMP.TMP NO_SHOW $ dummy_verify = f$verify(0) KEN-I-INFO, Reading MAILSHR.NEW and PATCH_MAILSHR_TMP.TMP - Writing MAILSHR_NEWW 00026A48: OLD> 23DEFF70 00026A48: NEW> D0006B6D 00026E80: OLD> 23DE0090 00026E80: NEW> 23DE08C0 0004181C: OLD> 47FB0402 0004181C: NEW> 47E00402 00041830: OLD> 23620060 00041830: NEW> 47FF041F PATCH_AXP_EXE_E_REPLACE - at 00041844 EXPECTED> 47E00412 ACTUAL> 47FF041F PATCH_AXP_EXE_E_REPLACE - Expected value does not match actual contents -- QUITd Quitting... 336 pagelets read - 2 pagelets updated $ MAIL /NOSELF NL: "HENDERSON@0" /SUBJECT="MAILSHR patch OK" %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image MAILSHR -CLI-E-IMAGEFNF, image file not found DSA100:[FTP.MAILPATCH]MAILSHR_NEW.EXE; $exit: SET NOVERIFY DO_PATCH_MAILSHR_ON_VMS_N_AXP.COM failed! FTP.MAILPATCH$ Any ideas? I'm running VMS 6.1, on a cluster of two DEC 4000-610's, MX 4.1beta, and Pathway 1.2.. Thanks, Jav henderson@mln.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 21:33:18 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: leebp@iscs.nus.sg Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 10:33:01 SST Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0098307A.A7B96F6E.259@dec7000.iscs.nus.sg> Subject: RE: MX hits little-known XQP bugcheck? >Hi, > > Over the past few weeks, one of the machines in my cluster has been > crashing with: XQPERR, Error detected by file system XQP > A little probing finds that the offset is BBB3. > > The process that's current is always an MX process. Twice it's been a LOCAL, > and twice it's been a ROUTER. > > I have a 7-node cluster, with the two main nodes running MX V4.1-Beta-1 > (I know, I have to upgrade, but I don't think it's specific to the version) > > Specifics: > > VAX 6000-410, 96MB, VMS V6.0 > 2 Routers, 3 Locals, 3 SMTPs, 1 MLF, 1 DNSMTP, 1 FLQ Mgr > VAX 8800, 144MB, VMS V6.0 > 2 Routers, 3 Locals, 3 SMTPs, 1 MLF, 1 DNSMTP, 1 FLQ Mgr > > The disk is an HSJ40-connected RZ28B, which also is the Quorum disk, > and contains the Queue Manager files. That's the only activity. > > The VAX 6000-410 is the only one that's crashed with this bugcheck in > the past few weeks. > > According to DEC, it is a very rare, little-known problem with the XQP, and > there is no patch for VMS V6.0. There is a patch for VMS V6.1, patch > #1137. > > This message is mostly informational, but I was also wondering if anyone > else has seen this problem, or has any ideas. > >Ted >-- >Ted Corning >UMass/Boston >Computing Services >kismet@trantor.cc.umb.edu > Uh guys, Sorry for quoting Ted's message in full. Thanks to Hunter's help, I manage to get my Dec7000 (OpenVMS 1.5 AXP), Vax6430, Vax8650 (both VMS 5.5-2) cluster running MX4.1 with central MX_ROOT and queue. So far, it's running beautifully except for a crash on my 2 Vaxes which happened at the same time. **** FATAL BUG CHECK, VERSION = V5.5-2 XQPERR, Error detected by file system XQP On V8650, failed process is: MX Local#2 On V6430, failed process is: MX Router Just wanted to let you know that he's not the only one with the problem. Regards ... Paul ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 22:03:22 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 22:03:13 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00983011.E8C091DB.23@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MX hits little-known XQP bugcheck? leebp@iscs.nus.sg writes: > >> According to DEC, it is a very rare, little-known problem with the XQP, and >> there is no patch for VMS V6.0. There is a patch for VMS V6.1, patch >> #1137. [...] > Sorry for quoting Ted's message in full. Thanks to Hunter's help, I >manage to get my Dec7000 (OpenVMS 1.5 AXP), Vax6430, Vax8650 (both VMS 5.5-2) >cluster running MX4.1 with central MX_ROOT and queue. So far, it's running >beautifully except for a crash on my 2 Vaxes which happened at the same time. > >**** FATAL BUG CHECK, VERSION = V5.5-2 XQPERR, Error detected by file system XQP > >On V8650, failed process is: MX Local#2 >On V6430, failed process is: MX Router > > Just wanted to let you know that he's not the only one with the problem. > It happened to me Saturday night, as well. I'm running V6.1, so I'm off to get the patch.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 01:59:21 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 08:59:07 WET From: Gilbert.Delafosse@mx.univ-compiegne.fr Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098306D.895CF70A.13099@mx.univ-compiegne.fr> Subject: RE: Problems with MAILSHR patch w/VMS 6.1/AXP Hi, >>> I downloaded the MAILSHR patch from Hunter's server today, but I'm having >>> trouble applying it. Here's a log of the session: ... >>> KEN-I-INFO, Reading MAILSHR.NEW and PATCH_MAILSHR_TMP.TMP - >>> 00026A48: OLD> 23DEFF70 >>> 00026A48: NEW> D0006B6D >>> 00026E80: OLD> 23DE0090 >>> 00026E80: NEW> 23DE08C0 >>> 0004181C: OLD> 47FB0402 >>> 0004181C: NEW> 47E00402 >>> 00041830: OLD> 23620060 >>> 00041830: NEW> 47FF041F >>> PATCH_AXP_EXE_E_REPLACE - at 00041844 EXPECTED> 47E00412 ACTUAL> 47FF041F >>> PATCH_AXP_EXE_E_REPLACE - Expected value does not match actual contents >>> Quitting... >>> Any ideas? >>> I'm running VMS 6.1, on a cluster of two DEC 4000-610's, MX 4.1beta, and >>> Pathway 1.2.. 1) What is your current release of the C compiler ? 2) did you upgrade MX just after VMS ? I've had the same problem upgrading an AXP from VMS 1.5 to 6.1 and then patching VMSmail. After upgrading the C compiler to 4.0 it works fine gilbert (gilbert.Delafosse@mx.univ-compiegne.fr) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 06:21:29 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 05:53:00 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00983053.898473DA.35@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Problems with MAILSHR patch w/VMS 6.1/AXP Gilbert.Delafosse@mx.univ-compiegne.fr writes: > >>>> I downloaded the MAILSHR patch from Hunter's server today, but I'm having >>>> trouble applying it. Here's a log of the session: [...] >>>> PATCH_AXP_EXE_E_REPLACE - at 00041844 EXPECTED> 47E00412 ACTUAL> 47FF041F >>>> PATCH_AXP_EXE_E_REPLACE - Expected value does not match actual contents >>>> Quitting... >>>> Any ideas? >>>> I'm running VMS 6.1, on a cluster of two DEC 4000-610's, MX 4.1beta, and >>>> Pathway 1.2.. > >1) What is your current release of the C compiler ? >2) did you upgrade MX just after VMS ? > >I've had the same problem upgrading an AXP from VMS 1.5 to 6.1 and then >patching VMSmail. After upgrading the C compiler to 4.0 it works fine > Correct. The V6.1 patch was done using my system as a test system, and I had DEC C V4.0 installed. Upgrade to V4.0 and it'll work. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 09:41:59 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 16:41 +0100 From: Centraalbureau voor Schimmelcultures Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Error status 00F4 from XSMTP server To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <01HFZFISDAR48ZHWN7@kubvx1.kub.nl> Dear MX-users, We are still using MX V3.3 (getting a new version is cumbersome and expensive on the X.25 line that we still use) and VMS 5.4-1. I have the problem that some messages are being refused by the XSMTP-server. I have turned on logging, and the last lines of the logfile typically read like: STM[1]: Receive "X-Envelope-to: Uijthof@pc.CBSC.NL" STM[1]: Receive "Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT" STM[1]: Receive "X-Anonymously-To:" STM[1]: Error: status=00F4 If the same message is sent again, the same thing happens. Other messages are accepted, I do not see in the logfiles why some messages are rejected, and most messages are accepted. Also, I do not know what the status means (it is always 00F4). I would be grateful for any help. Gerrit Stegehuis -- Gerrit Stegehuis Email: SURF280@KUB.NL Centraalbureau voor Schimmelcultures Tel.: 31-2154-81223 P.O.Box 273, 3740 AG Baarn, The Netherlands Fax: 31-2154-16142 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 10:43:57 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: madison@tgv.com (Matt Madison) Subject: Re: Error status 00F4 from XSMTP server Date: 16 Aug 1994 15:34:54 GMT Message-ID: <32qmb2$qid@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <01HFZFISDAR48ZHWN7@kubvx1.kub.nl>, Centraalbureau voor Schimmelcultures writes: & We are still using MX V3.3 (getting a new version is cumbersome and & expensive on the X.25 line that we still use) and VMS 5.4-1. I have the & problem that some messages are being refused by the XSMTP-server. I have & turned on logging, and the last lines of the logfile typically read & like: & & STM[1]: Receive "X-Envelope-to: Uijthof@pc.CBSC.NL" & STM[1]: Receive "Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT" & STM[1]: Receive "X-Anonymously-To:" & STM[1]: Error: status=00F4 & & If the same message is sent again, the same thing happens. Other & messages are accepted, I do not see in the logfiles why some messages & are rejected, and most messages are accepted. Also, I do not know what & the status means (it is always 00F4). Well, status code F4 is SS$_ILLIOFUNC. In taking a look at the XSMTP source code (for V4.1, but I don't think it's changed much in a long time), it looks like one of the $QIO's to read data off the X.25 channel uses IO$_READVBLK with the IO$M_MULTIPLE modifier; in looking over the P.S.I. programming docs, it looks like that modifier isn't supported. The only time that particular $QIO gets used is if it takes more than one network read to get an entire line. That might explain why some messages get through but others don't. Perhaps someone with more X.25 experience than I have could comment further, but it looks to me like we should fix that particular $QIO so it does a straight IO$_READVBLK with no modifier. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | madison@tgv.com | +1 408 457 5390 TGV, Inc. | 101 Cooper Street | Santa Cruz, CA 95060 USA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 13:07:57 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 14:07:55 EST From: "Wheeler, Daniel A" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.wku.edu CC: manager@maple.lemoyne.edu Message-ID: <00983098.AD395E40.4@maple.lemoyne.edu> Subject: Host/node address problem? I'm chasing a problem and would like some good reference sources as well as a solution. My users and I have occasionally experienced a situation where remote hosts sometimes recognize our mail as originating at lemoyne.edu and maple.lemoyne.edu. This is of course a problem when attempting to work with mailing lists, especially when the host (or maple) doesn't seem to be consistent or predictable (naturally I'd like to blame them (:-)). I have samples below from a recent subscription problem and I can't figure out what I might have changed that would caused the remote host to change its determination of my address. The remote host recognized us as maple.lemoyne.edu on 25-Jul and sees us as lemoyne.edu now. I have made no changes that I can recall/track. What am I missing? maple.lemoyne.edu and lemoyne.edu are aliased as the same machine. VMS 5.5-2/UCX 2.0E/MX 4.1. Some configs/logicals/nsquery lookups attached. Where should I be looking for reference material on the whole address resolution process? --dan --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Wheeler Senior Support Analyst & VMS System Manager Office of Information Systems, Le Moyne College, Syracuse NY 13214-1399 Phone 315.445.4565 (Home 315.655.8193) wheeler@maple.lemoyne.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- =========================================================================== recent message from listproc - to lemoyne.edu > From: MX%"alsb@carbon.denver.colorado.edu" 15-AUG-1994 16:14:14.06 > Subj: Error Condition Re: Books and hi Daphne > someuser@lemoyne.edu: You are not subscribed to alsb@carbon.denver.colorado.edu. > Your message is returned to you unprocessed. If you want to subscribe, > send mail to listproc@carbon.denver.colorado.edu with the following request: > > subscribe ALSB Your Name > > In addition, the system found the following address(es) that resemble yours. > If one of these is you, please resend your message from that one, or use the > 'set address' request to change the address you are subscribed with: > > SOMEUSER@MAPLE.LEMOYNE.EDU ... > Return-Path: > Received: from carbon.denver.colorado.edu by maple.lemoyne.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) > with SMTP; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 16:14:12 EST > Received: by carbon.denver.colorado.edu (5.65/DEC-OSF/1.2) id AA17979; Mon, 15 > Aug 1994 14:18:20 -0600 > Message-ID: <00982FE0.1A2609E0.6@maple.lemoyne.edu> > Errors-To: econry@carbon.denver.colorado.edu > Originator: alsb@carbon.denver.colorado.edu > Sender: alsb@carbon.denver.colorado.edu > Precedence: bulk > To: someuser@lemoyne.edu > CC: econry@carbon.denver.colorado.edu > X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas =========================================================================== older message from listproc - to maple.lemoyne.edu > From: MX%"listproc@carbon.denver.colorado.edu" 25-JUL-1994 19:04:42.77 > Subj: SUBSCRIBE ALSB MARY ANN > You have been added to list alsb@carbon.denver.colorado.edu. > The system has recorded your address as > > someuser@maple.lemoyne.edu > > and in order for your messages to get posted (if the list accepts postings), ... > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Return-Path: > Received: from carbon.denver.colorado.edu by maple.lemoyne.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) > with SMTP; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 19:04:40 EST > Received: by carbon.denver.colorado.edu (5.65/DEC-OSF/1.2) id AA22251; Mon, 25 > Jul 1994 17:08:07 -0600 > Message-ID: <9407252308.AA22251@carbon.denver.colorado.edu> > Errors-To: econry@carbon.denver.colorado.edu > Sender: listproc@carbon.denver.colorado.edu > To: someuser@lemoyne.edu > CC: econry@carbon.denver.colorado.edu > X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas > X-Comment: List Server at University of Colorado at Denver =========================================================================== system logicals "MX_NODE_NAME" = "maple.lemoyne.edu" "MX_VMSMAIL_LOCALHOST" = "@maple.lemoyne.edu" "UCX$BIND_DOMAIN" = "lemoyne.edu" "UCX$INET_DOMAIN" = "lemoyne.edu" "UCX$INET_HOST" = "maple.lemoyne.edu" =========================================================================== nsquery on maple.lemoyne.edu %NSQUERY-I-TRYNS, trying address 192.33.4.10... %NSQUERY-I-AUTHRESP, authoritative response %NSQUERY-I-QUERYOK, query operation completed successfully QUERY #1: QName=MAPLE.LEMOYNE.EDU., QType=255, QClass=1 ANSWER #1: MAPLE.LEMOYNE.EDU., CNAME, INTERNET, 1 00:00:00, CName=lemoyne.edu. AUTHOR #1: lemoyne.edu., NS, INTERNET, 1 00:00:00, NS=ns.psi.net. AUTHOR #2: lemoyne.edu., NS, INTERNET, 1 00:00:00, NS=ns2.psi.net. ADDTNL #1: ns.psi.net., A, INTERNET, 1 00:00:00, Addr=192.33.4.10 ADDTNL #2: ns2.psi.net., A, INTERNET, 1 00:00:00, Addr=192.35.82.2 =========================================================================== nsquery on lemoyne.edu %NSQUERY-I-TRYNS, trying address 192.33.4.10... %NSQUERY-I-AUTHRESP, authoritative response %NSQUERY-I-QUERYOK, query operation completed successfully QUERY #1: QName=LEMOYNE.EDU., QType=255, QClass=1 ANSWER #1: LEMOYNE.EDU., NS, INTERNET, 1 00:00:00, NS=ns.psi.net. ANSWER #2: LEMOYNE.EDU., NS, INTERNET, 1 00:00:00, NS=ns2.psi.net. ANSWER #3: LEMOYNE.EDU., SOA, INTERNET, 1 00:00:00 Primary NS: ns.psi.net. Responsible: hostmaster.ns.psi.net. Serial=199310180, Refresh= 0 02:00:00, Retry= 0 00:15:00 Expire= 30 00:00:00, Minimum= 1 00:00:00 ANSWER #4: LEMOYNE.EDU., A, INTERNET, 1 00:00:00, Addr=192.231.122.100 ANSWER #5: LEMOYNE.EDU., MX, INTERNET, 1 00:00:00, Pref=0, Exch=lemoyne.edu. AUTHOR #1: lemoyne.edu., NS, INTERNET, 1 00:00:00, NS=ns.psi.net. AUTHOR #2: lemoyne.edu., NS, INTERNET, 1 00:00:00, NS=ns2.psi.net. ADDTNL #1: ns.psi.net., A, INTERNET, 1 00:00:00, Addr=192.33.4.10 ADDTNL #2: ns2.psi.net., A, INTERNET, 1 00:00:00, Addr=192.35.82.2 ADDTNL #3: lemoyne.edu., A, INTERNET, 1 00:00:00, Addr=192.231.122.100 =========================================================================== mxconfig Domain-to-path mappings: Domain="[192.231.122.100]", Path=Local Domain="maple.lemoyne.edu", Path=Local Domain="lemoyne.bitnet", Path=Local Domain="lemoyne.edu", Path=Local Domain="BULLETIN", Path=Site Domain="socrates", Path=Local Domain="lemoyne", Path=Local Domain="bamboo", Path=SMTP Domain="lmccsc", Path=Local Domain="maple", Path=Local Domain="oak", Path=SMTP Domain="*.bitnet", Path=Jnet Domain="*.uucp", Path=SMTP, Route="uunet.uu.net" Domain="*.*", Path=SMTP Domain-to-path mappings: Domain="[192.231.122.100]", Path=Local Domain="maple.lemoyne.edu", Path=Local Domain="lemoyne.bitnet", Path=Local Domain="lemoyne.edu", Path=Local Domain="BULLETIN", Path=Site Domain="socrates", Path=Local Domain="lemoyne", Path=Local Domain="bamboo", Path=SMTP Domain="lmccsc", Path=Local Domain="maple", Path=Local Domain="oak", Path=SMTP Domain="*.bitnet", Path=Jnet Domain="*.uucp", Path=SMTP, Route="uunet.uu.net" Domain="*.*", Path=SMTP Address-rewriting rules: Rewrite "<{u}@lemoyne>" => "<{u}@lemoyne>" Rewrite "<{u}@lemoyne.BITNET>" => "<{u}@lemoyne>" Rewrite "<{u}@maple.lemoyne.edu>" => "<{u}@lemoyne>" Rewrite "<{folder}@BULLETIN>" => "<{folder}@BULLETIN>" Rewrite "<@{stuff}:{user}@{host}.UUCP>" => "<{user}%{host}%uunet.uu.net@INTERBIT.BITNET>" Rewrite "<{user}@{host}.UUCP>" => "<{user}%{host}%uunet.uu.net@INTERBIT.BITNET>" Rewrite "<@{stuff}:{user}@{host}.CSNET>" => "<{user}%{host}.CSNET%relay.cs.net@INTERBIT.BITNET>" Rewrite "<{user}@{host}.CSNET>" => "<{user}%{host}.CSNET%relay.cs.net@INTERBIT.BITNET>" Rewrite "<@{route}:{user}@{host}.BITNET>" => "<{user}@{host}.BITNET>" Rewrite "<{user}@{host}.BITNET>" => "<{user}@{host}.BITNET>" Rewrite "<@{route}:{user}@{host}>" => "<{user}%{host}@INTERBIT.BITNET>" Rewrite "<{U}@SOCRATES>" => "<{U}@LEMOYNE>" Rewrite "<{U}@MAPLE>" => "<{U}@LEMOYNE>" Rewrite "<{U}@admin1>" => "<{U}@oak>" Rewrite "<{U}@wpgate>" => "" Rewrite "<{U}%wpgate@lemoyne>" => "" =========================================================================== smtp debug log 16-AUG-1994 13:59:34.10 Processing queue entry number 13 on node NEWKID 16-AUG-1994 13:59:34.34 Recipient: , route=carbon.denver.colorado.edu 16-AUG-1994 13:59:34.34 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name carbon.denver.colorado.edu 16-AUG-1994 13:59:34.34 SMTP_SEND: DSN_MXLOOK status is 00000001 16-AUG-1994 13:59:34.57 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with carbon.denver.colorado.edu [132.194.10.4] 16-AUG-1994 13:59:34.94 SMTP_SEND: Connected 16-AUG-1994 13:59:35.36 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 220 carbon.denver.colorado.edu Sendmail 5.65/DEC-OSF/1.2 ready at Tue, 16 Aug 1994 12:03:49 -0600 16-AUG-1994 13:59:35.43 SMTP_SEND: Sent: HELO maple.lemoyne.edu 16-AUG-1994 13:59:35.68 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 carbon.denver.colorado.edu Hello maple.lemoyne.edu, pleased to meet you 16-AUG-1994 13:59:35.68 SMTP_SEND: Sent: MAIL FROM: 16-AUG-1994 13:59:36.08 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 ... Sender ok 16-AUG-1994 13:59:36.08 SMTP_SEND: Sent: RCPT TO: 16-AUG-1994 13:59:36.45 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 ... Recipient ok 16-AUG-1994 13:59:36.46 SMTP_SEND: Sent: DATA 16-AUG-1994 13:59:36.68 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself 16-AUG-1994 13:59:36.68 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: by maple.lemoyne.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) id 11; Tue, 16 Aug 1994 13:59:33 16-AUG-1994 13:59:36.68 SMTP_SEND: Sent: EST 16-AUG-1994 13:59:36.68 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 13:59:32 EST 16-AUG-1994 13:59:36.69 SMTP_SEND: Sent: From: Mary Ann someuser 16-AUG-1994 13:59:36.69 SMTP_SEND: Sent: To: econry@carbon.denver.colorado.edu 16-AUG-1994 13:59:36.69 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Message-ID: <00983097.815D73C0.11@maple.lemoyne.edu> 16-AUG-1994 13:59:36.69 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Subject: subscription/address problems 16-AUG-1994 13:59:36.69 SMTP_SEND: Sent: ... 16-AUG-1994 13:59:36.74 SMTP_SEND: Sent: . 16-AUG-1994 13:59:36.74 SMTP_SEND: will wait 00:10:30.00 for reply. 16-AUG-1994 13:59:37.84 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 Ok 16-AUG-1994 13:59:37.84 SMTP_SEND: Sent: QUIT 16-AUG-1994 13:59:39.98 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 221 carbon.denver.colorado.edu closing connection 16-AUG-1994 13:59:40.10 Recipient status=00000001 for 16-AUG-1994 13:59:40.14 Entry now completely processed, no retries needed. 16-AUG-1994 13:59:40.52 *** End of processing pass *** ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 18:12:02 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: Error status 00F4 from XSMTP server Date: 16 Aug 1994 23:06:18 GMT Message-ID: <32rgpa$h93@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <01HFZFISDAR48ZHWN7@kubvx1.kub.nl>, Centraalbureau voor Schimmelcultures writes: =Dear MX-users, = =We are still using MX V3.3 (getting a new version is cumbersome and =expensive on the X.25 line that we still use) and VMS 5.4-1. I have the =problem that some messages are being refused by the XSMTP-server. I have =turned on logging, and the last lines of the logfile typically read =like: = =STM[1]: Receive "X-Envelope-to: Uijthof@pc.CBSC.NL" =STM[1]: Receive "Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT" =STM[1]: Receive "X-Anonymously-To:" =STM[1]: Error: status=00F4 = =If the same message is sent again, the same thing happens. Other =messages are accepted, I do not see in the logfiles why some messages =are rejected, and most messages are accepted. Also, I do not know what =the status means (it is always 00F4). = =I would be grateful for any help. Sounds like a bug in the program XSMTP-server's running, since: $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$MESSAGE(%XF4) %SYSTEM-F-ILLIOFUNC, illegal I/O function code -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 18:23:26 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: Host/node address problem? Date: 16 Aug 1994 23:12:50 GMT Message-ID: <32rh5i$h93@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <00983098.AD395E40.4@maple.lemoyne.edu>, "Wheeler, Daniel A" writes: =I'm chasing a problem and would like some good reference sources as =well as a solution. My users and I have occasionally experienced a =situation where remote hosts sometimes recognize our mail as =originating at lemoyne.edu and maple.lemoyne.edu. This is of course a =problem when attempting to work with mailing lists, especially when =the host (or maple) doesn't seem to be consistent or predictable =(naturally I'd like to blame them (:-)). = =I have samples below from a recent subscription problem and I can't =figure out what I might have changed that would caused the remote host =to change its determination of my address. The remote host recognized =us as maple.lemoyne.edu on 25-Jul and sees us as lemoyne.edu now. I =have made no changes that I can recall/track. What am I missing? = =maple.lemoyne.edu and lemoyne.edu are aliased as the same machine. VMS =5.5-2/UCX 2.0E/MX 4.1. Some configs/logicals/nsquery lookups attached. = =Where should I be looking for reference material on the whole address =resolution process? Well, first of all, it'd help if you'd sent the right part of the headers. You've sent the parts indicating how the mail got from carbon to you; the problem's obviously in the other direction. And you left out the "From" line: => subscribe ALSB Your Name => => In addition, the system found the following address(es) that resemble yours. => If one of these is you, please resend your message from that one, or use the => 'set address' request to change the address you are subscribed with: => => SOMEUSER@MAPLE.LEMOYNE.EDU =.... => Return-Path: => Received: from carbon.denver.colorado.edu by maple.lemoyne.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) => with SMTP; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 16:14:12 EST => Received: by carbon.denver.colorado.edu (5.65/DEC-OSF/1.2) id AA17979; Mon, 15 => Aug 1994 14:18:20 -0600 => Message-ID: <00982FE0.1A2609E0.6@maple.lemoyne.edu> => Errors-To: econry@carbon.denver.colorado.edu => Originator: alsb@carbon.denver.colorado.edu => Sender: alsb@carbon.denver.colorado.edu => Precedence: bulk => To: someuser@lemoyne.edu => CC: econry@carbon.denver.colorado.edu => X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas = Where's the "From:"? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 02:48:32 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 09:48 +0100 From: Centraalbureau voor Schimmelcultures Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: Error status 00F4 from XSMTP server To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <01HG0FDF1C2O8ZHV5G@kubvx1.kub.nl> In article <32qmb2$qid@news.arc.nasa.gov>, madison@tgv.com (Matt Madison) writes: >In article <01HFZFISDAR48ZHWN7@kubvx1.kub.nl>, Centraalbureau voor Schimmelcultures writes: >& We are still using MX V3.3 (getting a new version is cumbersome and >& expensive on the X.25 line that we still use) and VMS 5.4-1. I have the >& problem that some messages are being refused by the XSMTP-server. I have >& turned on logging, and the last lines of the logfile typically read >& like: >& >& STM[1]: Receive "X-Envelope-to: Uijthof@pc.CBSC.NL" >& STM[1]: Receive "Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT" >& STM[1]: Receive "X-Anonymously-To:" >& STM[1]: Error: status=00F4 >& >& If the same message is sent again, the same thing happens. Other >& messages are accepted, I do not see in the logfiles why some messages >& are rejected, and most messages are accepted. Also, I do not know what >& the status means (it is always 00F4). > >Well, status code F4 is SS$_ILLIOFUNC. In taking a look at the XSMTP >source code (for V4.1, but I don't think it's changed much in a long time), >it looks like one of the $QIO's to read data off the X.25 channel uses >IO$_READVBLK with the IO$M_MULTIPLE modifier; in looking over the P.S.I. >programming docs, it looks like that modifier isn't supported. > >The only time that particular $QIO gets used is if it takes more than one >network read to get an entire line. That might explain why some messages >get through but others don't. > >Perhaps someone with more X.25 experience than I have could comment further, >but it looks to me like we should fix that particular $QIO so it does a >straight IO$_READVBLK with no modifier. I have tested this, and I can confirm that only messages containing long lines are refused. If there is a line which is longer than 222 characters status code F4 appears (sorry for not interpreting F4 right away). Gerrit Stegehuis -- Gerrit Stegehuis Email: SURF280@KUB.NL Centraalbureau voor Schimmelcultures Tel.: 31-2154-81223 P.O.Box 273, 3740 AG Baarn, The Netherlands Fax: 31-2154-16142 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 17:20:53 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 00:19:45 WET From: Ralph Kloess Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST%WKUVX1.WKU.EDU@VISION.RS.CH Message-ID: <009831B7.508CCA40.1@EUROPA.RS.CH> Subject: Re: Error status 00F4 from XSMTP server >>Perhaps someone with more X.25 experience than I have could comment further, >>but it looks to me like we should fix that particular $QIO so it does a >>straight IO$_READVBLK with no modifier. > >I have tested this, and I can confirm that only messages containing long lines >are refused. If there is a line which is longer than 222 characters status code >F4 appears (sorry for not interpreting F4 right away). I just checked with a friend of mine. It is a bug in the X25-SMTP agent! But it's already fixed (as of MX V 3.4) . All you have to do ,is to upgrade MX!! Regards, Ralph Kloess +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ I Ralph Kloess I I I I I +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 17:19:31 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: kevin@ins.infonet.net (Kevin Houle) Subject: SMG (?!) generating invalid logical table errors Date: 18 Aug 1994 21:56:06 GMT Message-ID: <330ldm$ei3@insosf1.infonet.net> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I'm not a VMS internals kind of guy, so it seems really odd that MX should generate this kind of a bounce error on a message reply.. ->--> Error description: ->Error-For: kevin@INS.INFONET.NET ->Error-Code: 2 ->Error-Text: Error in delivery to user KEVIN -> %MAIL-E-SENDERR, error sending to user KEVIN -> -MAIL-E-NOSUCHUSR, no such user KEVIN -> -SMG-F-IVLOGTAB, invalid logical name table -> ->Error-End: 1 error detected I most certainly do exist.. and what might SMG have to do with anything? More importantly, what's this really pointing to? -- Kevin Houle kevin@ins.infonet.net ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 20:57:36 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 20:57:25 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00983264.36ECFA76.13@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: SMG (?!) generating invalid logical table errors kevin@ins.infonet.net (Kevin Houle) writes: > >I'm not a VMS internals kind of guy, so it seems really >odd that MX should generate this kind of a bounce error >on a message reply.. > It's not MX's fault, it's just reporting the error. >->--> Error description: >->Error-For: kevin@INS.INFONET.NET >->Error-Code: 2 >->Error-Text: Error in delivery to user KEVIN >-> %MAIL-E-SENDERR, error sending to user KEVIN >-> -MAIL-E-NOSUCHUSR, no such user KEVIN >-> -SMG-F-IVLOGTAB, invalid logical name table These errors are coming from the callable mail routines, though I don't know why. I have seen that before, but either never knew why, or have since forgotten the reason. >I most certainly do exist.. and what might SMG have to >do with anything? More importantly, what's this really >pointing to? > Callable mail. MAIL uses the SMG$ routines---apparently some of the callable mail routines do too, though I can't imagine why. Anyone else? Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 08:53:14 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: system@condor.navsses.navy.mil (Mike Jacobi; CDNSWC 3582; Vax System Manager) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: MX SMTP processes exiting Message-ID: <1994Aug16.221027.1543@condor> Date: 16 Aug 94 22:10:27 -0600 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Lately I have been seeing the MX_SMTP processes exiting unexpectedly. The MX_SMTP log shows: 6-AUG-1994 14:00:34.41: MX SMTP (pid 20C00127) starting 8-AUG-1994 11:07:33.64: MX SMTP (pid 20C00127) exiting, status = 1000044C This status code translastes as "reserved addressing fault ..." I can not find the message that was being process when this happened, since not all of the MX_SMTP processes in my cluster died (I run 2 processes on the two 6000's in my cluster). ThHere are the MX logicals as defined on this cluster: "MX_ALIAS_HELPLIB" = "MX_DIR:MX_ALIAS_HELPLIB" "MX_DEVICE" = "$1$DUA1:" "MX_DIR" = "MX_DEVICE:[MX]" "MX_DNSMTP_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[DNSMTP]" "MX_DOC" = "MX_ROOT:[DOC]" "MX_EXAMPLES_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[EXAMPLES]" "MX_EXE" = "MX_ROOT:[EXE]" "MX_FLQ_DEBUG" = "1" "MX_FLQ_DIR" = "$1$DUA1:[MX.QUEUE]" "MX_FLQ_NODE_NAME" = "NAVSES" "MX_FLQ_SHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_FLQ_SHR" "MX_LOCAL_DEBUG" = "1" "MX_LOCAL_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[LOCAL]" "MX_MAILSHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_MAILSHR" "MX_MAILSHRP" = "MX_EXE:MX_MAILSHRP" "MX_MCP_HELPLIB" = "MX_DIR:MX_MCP_HELPLIB" "MX_MLF_DEBUG" = "1" "MX_MLF_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[MLF]" "MX_MLIST_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[MLF.MAILING_LISTS]" "MX_MSG" = "MX_EXE:MX_MSG" "MX_NODE_NAME" = "eagle.navsses.navy.mil" "MX_ROOT" = "MX_DEVICE:[MX.]" "MX_ROUTER_DEBUG" = "1" "MX_ROUTER_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[ROUTER]" "MX_SHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_SHR" "MX_SITE_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[SITE]" "MX_SITE_DOM_EXPANSION" = "MX_EXE:DOMAIN_EXPANSION" "MX_SMTP_DEBUG" = "1" "MX_SMTP_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[SMTP]" "MX_SMTP_SERVER_DEBUG" = "1" "MX_SMTP_SERVER_THREADS" = "8" "MX_UUCP_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[UUCP]" "MX_VMSMAIL_LOCALHOST" = "@eagle.navsses.navy.mil" Any Ideas? -- Mike Jacobi NAVSSES VAXCluster system manager System@Eagle.Navsses.Navy.Mil System@Condor.Navsses.Navy.Mil Disclaimer - I speak for myself. No-one else. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 10:16:56 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: madison@tgv.com (Matt Madison) Subject: Re: SMG (?!) generating invalid logical table errors Date: 19 Aug 1994 15:08:54 GMT Message-ID: <332hu7$l01@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <330ldm$ei3@insosf1.infonet.net>, kevin@ins.infonet.net (Kevin Houle) writes: & I'm not a VMS internals kind of guy, so it seems really & odd that MX should generate this kind of a bounce error & on a message reply.. & & ->--> Error description: & ->Error-For: kevin@INS.INFONET.NET & ->Error-Code: 2 & ->Error-Text: Error in delivery to user KEVIN & -> %MAIL-E-SENDERR, error sending to user KEVIN & -> -MAIL-E-NOSUCHUSR, no such user KEVIN & -> -SMG-F-IVLOGTAB, invalid logical name table & -> & ->Error-End: 1 error detected & & I most certainly do exist.. and what might SMG have to & do with anything? More importantly, what's this really & pointing to? This is an AXP system, right? I've seen this sort of thing before with AXPs, and though I haven't actually tracked this down in the MAILSHR sources, I think it has something to do with a resource leak causing MAILSHR or MAILSHRP to reject a valid username because it couldn't allocate the resources it needed to look up the user. Also, you can basically ignore the last message there, because it's just garbage. Again, I've seen this before with this particular message, but just on AXPs. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | madison@tgv.com | +1 408 457 5390 TGV, Inc. | 101 Cooper Street | Santa Cruz, CA 95060 USA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 12:16:06 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: kevin@ins.infonet.net (Kevin Houle) Subject: Re: SMG (?!) generating invalid logical table errors Date: 19 Aug 1994 16:54:25 GMT Message-ID: <332o41$qvr@insosf1.infonet.net> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU madison@tgv.com (Matt Madison) writes: >This is an AXP system, right? I've seen this sort of thing before with >AXPs, and though I haven't actually tracked this down in the MAILSHR sources, >I think it has something to do with a resource leak causing MAILSHR or >MAILSHRP to reject a valid username because it couldn't allocate the >resources it needed to look up the user. Yeah, it's an AXP, still running V1.5. That blasted MAILSHR sure is a buggy little devil.. so basically we're looking at some sort of process resource drain on the MX Local process, eh? It's the guy calling mail.. I'll have to poke around and see if I can find anything on the MX Local process to help the theory.. it isn't a one time problem. >Also, you can basically ignore the last message there, because it's >just garbage. Again, I've seen this before with this particular message, >but just on AXPs. Well, I suppose we could trade it in for a VAX.... naw. Is there any hope that DEC improved their MAILSHR in 6.1? -- Kevin Houle kevin@ins.infonet.net ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 12:33:52 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 12:33:35 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <009832E6.FE7CACA3.3@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: Re: SMG (?!) generating invalid logical table errors kevin@ins.infonet.net (Kevin Houle) writes: > >>Also, you can basically ignore the last message there, because it's >>just garbage. Again, I've seen this before with this particular message, >>but just on AXPs. > >Well, I suppose we could trade it in for a VAX.... naw. Is there >any hope that DEC improved their MAILSHR in 6.1? > All of the problems I know about MAILSHR appear to have been fixed in V6.1, *except* for a couple of memory leaks (which have been there for a long time, but I think will be fixed in the next release). Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 18:10:49 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: martineau@MacMartineau.ccr.hydro.qc.ca (Alain Martineau) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: error creating queue Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 18:53:33 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I was (almost) happy with MX 4.0 and had the idea of installing 4.1. Well, if it was not broken, why did I want to fix it ? Here is what I get: MX Message Queue Creation ------------------------- The MX message queue file will be created now. %MCP-I-QNEWQFL, creating new system message queue file for 100 entries.... %MCP-E-QCVTFAIL, error creating new system message queue -RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for operation An error occurred creating the MX queue file. Please correct the problem and use MCP QUEUE CREATE to create the queue. $ SHO LOG MX* (LNM$PROCESS_TABLE) "MX_DEVICE" = "DKA300:" "MX_EXE" = "MX_ROOT:[EXE]" "MX_FLQ_DIR" = "DKA300:[MS.QUEUE]" "MX_FLQ_SHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_FLQ_SHR" "MX_IMGOK" = "DKA300:[MX.EXE]MX_MLF.EXE;" "MX_INSTALL_ROOT" = "MX_DEVICE:[MX.]" "MX_MAX_FLQ_ENTRIES" = "100" "MX_OK" = "DKA300:[MX]MX_STARTUP_INFO.DAT;" "MX_ROOT" = "MX_DEVICE:[MX.]" "MX_SHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_SHR" "MX_TMP" = "MX_INSTALL_ROOT:[DOC]LIBRARY.DECW$BOOKSHELF;" (LNM$JOB_8085A580) (LNM$GROUP_000360) (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) "MX_DEVICE" = "DKA300:" "MX_DIR" = "MX_DEVICE:[MX]" "MX_DNSMTP_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[DNSMTP]" "MX_DOC" = "MX_ROOT:[DOC]" "MX_EXE" = "MX_ROOT:[EXE]" "MX_LOCAL_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[LOCAL]" "MX_MAILSHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_MAILSHR" "MX_MAILSHRP" = "MX_EXE:MX_MAILSHRP" "MX_MLF_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[MLF]" "MX_MLIST_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[MLF.MAILING_LISTS]" "MX_MSG" = "MX_EXE:MX_MSG" "MX_NODE_NAME" = "automatismes.ccr.hydro.qc.ca" "MX_ROOT" = "MX_DEVICE:[MX.]" "MX_ROUTER_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[ROUTER]" "MX_SHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_SHR" "MX_SITE_DOM_EXPANSION" = "MX_EXE:DOMAIN_EXPANSION" "MX_SMTP_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[SMTP]" "MX_VMSMAIL_LOCALHOST" = "@automatismes.ccr.hydro.qc.ca" $ dir mx_flq_dir: Directory DKA300:[MS.QUEUE] 0.DIR;1 1.DIR;1 2.DIR;1 3.DIR;1 4.DIR;1 5.DIR;1 6.DIR;1 7.DIR;1 8.DIR;1 9.DIR;1 Total of 10 files. Where should I look next ? Alain Martineau Hydro Quebec amartineau@nccr.ccr.hydro.qc.ca ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 20:33:45 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 20:33:23 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00983717.D96C4DEE.47@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: error creating queue martineau@MacMartineau.ccr.hydro.qc.ca (Alain Martineau) writes: > >I was (almost) happy with MX 4.0 and had the idea of installing >4.1. Well, if it was not broken, why did I want to fix it ? Here >is what I get: > > MX Message Queue Creation > ------------------------- > > The MX message queue file will be created now. > >%MCP-I-QNEWQFL, creating new system message queue file for 100 entries.... >%MCP-E-QCVTFAIL, error creating new system message queue >-RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for operation > I really should make the time to do an FAQ.... This is because MX expects all logicals used with MX to be defined /EXEC. Is DKA300: a logical for the real disk name? You *should* be able to do what the installation suggested: > An error occurred creating the MX queue file. Please correct > the problem and use MCP QUEUE CREATE to create the queue. > Just execute @SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP LOGICALS and try the MCP QUEUE CREATE by hand. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 09:40:15 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: gaw@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Graham Wood") Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: RE: error creating queue Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 14:15:42 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hunter, First I would like to thank you for a good peice of software. I have just installed MX 4.1 on first a uVAXII for test purposes, and now on our main system a 3100/95. Both machines are running VMS 6.1. Now for the significant bit - Both machine reported being unable to create the queue during intial set up as in the other users post. In both cases I am sure that a) the required logicals existed, and b) disk logicals were declared /EXEC. At first I worried, but I had no problems creating the que manually so have not given it further thought. But, seeing this post and your reply, I thought you might like to know. thanks again and regards, -- Graham Wood Pearpoint Ltd fax: 0453-860048 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 01:23:41 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: cliang@carleton.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Network object rejected? Date: 25 Aug 94 13:55:41 CST Message-ID: <1994Aug25.135541.1@carleton.edu> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I'm having problems getting mail to correctly travel from a VAX to a SGI workstation. When I look in the queue, I see: Entry: 24884, Origin: [Local] Status: IN-PROGRESS SMTP entry #24885, status: READY Waiting for retry until: 25-AUG-1994 14:07:48.60 Recipient #1: , Route=SNOOPY.ARACHNE.COM Error count=1 Last error: %SYSTEM-F-REJECT, connect to network object rejected ... and other such messages. MX correctly delivers mail to the user (milton), who has a forwarding address (milton@snoopy.arachne.com), but I can't seem to figure out what has gone wrong from there. TCP/IP works fine (I can telnet to the machine), and as far as I know, the user hasn't done anything to change the configuration of the machine. Any pointers as to what may be going wrong here? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 02:48:37 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 02:48:18 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: CLIANG@CARLETON.EDU Message-ID: <00983815.63FB22AC.18@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Network object rejected? cliang@carleton.edu writes: > >I'm having problems getting mail to correctly travel from a VAX to a SGI >workstation. When I look in the queue, I see: > >Entry: 24884, Origin: [Local] > Status: IN-PROGRESS > SMTP entry #24885, status: READY > Waiting for retry until: 25-AUG-1994 14:07:48.60 > Recipient #1: , Route=SNOOPY.ARACHNE.COM > Error count=1 > Last error: %SYSTEM-F-REJECT, connect to network object rejected > >... and other such messages. > >MX correctly delivers mail to the user (milton), who has a forwarding address >(milton@snoopy.arachne.com), but I can't seem to figure out what has gone wrong >from there. TCP/IP works fine (I can telnet to the machine), and as far as I >know, the user hasn't done anything to change the configuration of the machine. > >Any pointers as to what may be going wrong here? > They're apparently not running an SMTP server. You can check that out by using TELNET to connect to port 25. If they're running a server, you'll get an identification string from it. But you're going to see a message similar to that shown above, I'm sure. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 04:25:59 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: Network object rejected? Date: 26 Aug 1994 09:16:50 GMT Message-ID: <33kbu2$96a@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <1994Aug25.135541.1@carleton.edu>, cliang@carleton.edu writes: =I'm having problems getting mail to correctly travel from a VAX to a SGI =workstation. When I look in the queue, I see: = =Entry: 24884, Origin: [Local] = Status: IN-PROGRESS = SMTP entry #24885, status: READY = Waiting for retry until: 25-AUG-1994 14:07:48.60 = Recipient #1: , Route=SNOOPY.ARACHNE.COM = Error count=1 = Last error: %SYSTEM-F-REJECT, connect to network object rejected = =.... and other such messages. = =MX correctly delivers mail to the user (milton), who has a forwarding address =(milton@snoopy.arachne.com), but I can't seem to figure out what has gone wrong =from there. SNOOPY.ARACHNE.COM isn't accepting requests from your machine to connect to port 25 (SMTP). You'll have to ask the manager of SNOOPY why not. =TCP/IP works fine (I can telnet to the machine), and as far as I =know, the user hasn't done anything to change the configuration of the machine. "TCP/IP" is just a set of fairly generic protocols. When you try to talk to another machine, you connect to a specific port. And just because you can connect to, e.g. port 23 (TELNET) doesn't mean you can connect to the SMTP port. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 13:52:03 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: kevin@ins.infonet.net (Kevin Houle) Subject: RE: Network object rejected? Date: 26 Aug 1994 18:30:31 GMT Message-ID: <33lcc7$920@insosf1.infonet.net> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU "Hunter Goatley, WKU" writes: >cliang@carleton.edu writes: >>Entry: 24884, Origin: [Local] >> Status: IN-PROGRESS >> SMTP entry #24885, status: READY >> Waiting for retry until: 25-AUG-1994 14:07:48.60 >> Recipient #1: , Route=SNOOPY.ARACHNE.COM >> Error count=1 >> Last error: %SYSTEM-F-REJECT, connect to network object rejected >They're apparently not running an SMTP server. You can check that out >by using TELNET to connect to port 25. If they're running a server, >you'll get an identification string from it. But you're going to see >a message similar to that shown above, I'm sure. I see these frequently with mcimail.com and aol.com. Those domains both use MX RR's to point to machines who are probably very busy, and may reject connects at a certain system load. That's my theory anyway. The messages seem to get through, our postmaster isn't getting asked to fix AOL or MCIMail. -- Kevin Houle kevin@ins.infonet.net ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 03:26:59 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 12:57:16 -0305 From: SAEED KHADEMI Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <009839FC.CB8A4CC0.19@IREARN.BITNET> Subject: SMTP DIES Dear Hunter, I've upgraded to MX 4.01. Everything has gone well, but each time I start MX by "@sys$startup:mx_startup", all agents come up expect SMTP. Any help? Many thanks in advance. Regards, Saeed. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 02:37:31 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <199408300737.JAA16006@danpost.uni-c.dk> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:38 MET From: "Lejf Rasmussen, Psyk. Lab. KUA." Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: MX_LOCAL disappears. To: MX-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Hello, I am a new MX-user (3 weeks). My system is an AXP with OpenVMS version 1.5-1H1, and my MX is version 4.1. I have a problem with my MX_LOCAL, which disappears from time to time with 4 - 6 days interval. The amount of mail is not large on the system, 50 - 150 per day. As soon as I discover the growing que of undelivered mail, I restart MX_LOCAL, and all is fine again for some time. Can anyone help me to find a solution to this, or perhaps give me some clues to take a further look at. Below is included the last log entry processed by MX_LOCAL, and also the headers of the message that made MX_LOCAL go away. Note that this is a message from a mailing list, from which a lot of other messages seems to pass without problems every day. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- MX_LOCAL_LOG.LOG: 29-AUG-1994 18:01:59.11 Processing queue entry number 8 29-AUG-1994 18:01:59.24 Checking local name: MIKAEL 29-AUG-1994 18:01:59.25 LOCAL_USER: User MIKAEL definitely local. 29-AUG-1994 18:01:59.25 This is a regular delivery. 29-AUG-1994 18:01:59.29 DELIVER: mime_headers = 0 29-AUG-1994 18:01:59.29 DELIVER: fdlstr = "" 29-AUG-1994 18:01:59.29 DELIVER: Using MX%"OS2-L@HEARN.BITNET" as VMS MAIL From address. 29-AUG-1994 18:01:59.30 DELIVER: Using MX%"<@vm.uni-c.dk:OS2-L@HEARN>" as VMS MAIL To address. 29-AUG-1994 18:01:59.30 DELIVER: Using as VMS MAIL CC address. 29-AUG-1994 18:01:59.30 DELIVER: Using "Warp II DOS full screen display problem" as subject. 29-AUG-1994 18:01:59.38 DELIVER: Delivering to MIKAEL ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message, that could not be delivered: Return-Path: <@vm.uni-c.dk:owner-os2-l@HEARN.BITNET> Received: from vm.uni-c.dk by axp.psl.ku.dk (MX V4.1 AXP) with SMTP; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 18:01:58 +0100 Received: from vm.uni-c.dk by vm.uni-c.dk (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2831; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:02:37 DNT Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE by vm.uni-c.dk (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 0546; Mon, 29 Aug 94 18:02:36 DNT Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9745; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 18:00:13 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 09:02:00 PDT Reply-To: IBM OS/2 Unedited Discussion List Sender: IBM OS/2 Unedited Discussion List From: Gordon Schillinger Subject: Warp II DOS full screen display problem To: Multiple recipients of list OS2-L <@vm.uni-c.dk:OS2-L@HEARN> I have display problems running any DOS application in full screen. The ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Hope this helps. If not, feel free to ask for more information. Thanks in advance, Lejf. ---------------------------------------------------------- Lejf Rasmussen Psykologisk Laboratorium, Koebenhavns Universitet, Amager, Njalsgade 88, DK 2300 Koebenhavn S, Danmark. Email: lejf@vax.psl.ku.dk Phone: 35 32 88 17 Fax: 35 32 87 45 __________________________________________________________ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 04:47:01 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 10:44:35 GMT From: "Andy Harper, KCL Systems Manager" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <00983B7C.973F20E0.61@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk> Subject: Why is 8BIT extension required? Dear MX'ers, Enclosed is the transaction log from a bounced mail message. The error code clearly shows `554 8BIT SMTP extension not supported' Why would I need it for a simple text message? Is it common for this extension to not be supported? More importantly, can I get the message through with this limitation - if so, how? Thanks Andy Harper Kings College London From: MX%"Postmaster@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk" 30-AUG-1994 08:18:03.93 To: MX%"udaa121@elm.cc.kcl.ac.uk" CC: Subj: SMTP delivery error Return-Path: <> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 08:18:00 EDT From: SMTP delivery agent To: Subject: SMTP delivery error X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:" Note: this message was generated automatically. An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. --> Error description: Error-For: udeesav@ucl.ac.uk Error-Code: 2 Error-Text: %MX_SMTP-F-TRANSACTION_FAI, transaction failed -(Via ucl.ac.uk) -Transcript: -Rcvd: 220 mail-d.bcc.ac.uk PP Here - Pleased to meet you (Complaints/bugs to: postmaster@ucl.ac.uk) -Sent: HELO BASHER.CC.KCL.AC.UK -Rcvd: 250 mail-d.bcc.ac.uk: BASHER.CC.KCL.AC.UK looks good to me -Sent: MAIL FROM: -Rcvd: 250 OK -Sent: RCPT TO: -Rcvd: 250 Recipient OK. -Sent: DATA -Rcvd: 354 Enter Mail, end by a line with only '.' -Rcvd: 554 8BIT SMTP extension not supported -Sent: QUIT -Rcvd: 221 mail-d.bcc.ac.uk says goodbye to BASHER.CC.KCL.AC.UK at Tue Aug 30 08:20:32. Error-End: 1 error detected .... text of message deleted ..... ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 05:25:42 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 05:25:28 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: LEJF@VAX.PSL.KU.DK Message-ID: <00983B50.025CDF98.25@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MX_LOCAL disappears. "Lejf Rasmussen, Psyk. Lab. KUA." writes: > > I am a new MX-user (3 weeks). My system is an AXP with OpenVMS >version 1.5-1H1, and my MX is version 4.1. I have a problem with my >MX_LOCAL, which disappears from time to time with 4 - 6 days interval. >The amount of mail is not large on the system, 50 - 150 per day. As soon >as I discover the growing que of undelivered mail, I restart MX_LOCAL, >and all is fine again for some time. > This is because of a bug in the MAILSHR image in V1.5-H1. You need to either upgrade to OpenVMS AXP V6.1 or locate MAILSHR.EXE and MAILSHRP.EXE from a plain V1.5 OpenVMS AXP distribution and put them in your SYS$SHARE: and re-INSTALL them. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 05:27:51 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 05:27:38 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00983B50.5024C286.29@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Why is 8BIT extension required? "Andy Harper, KCL Systems Manager" writes: > >Dear MX'ers, > >Enclosed is the transaction log from a bounced mail message. The error code >clearly shows > `554 8BIT SMTP extension not supported' > >Why would I need it for a simple text message? Are you *sure* there wasn't an 8-bit character in the message somewhere? Maybe in the headers? Some people like to use 8-bit characters in their personal names, and this can cause this problem. >Is it common for this extension >to not be supported? Actually, the remote server is expecting MX to tell it that the file it's sending has 8-bit characters. However, MX doesn't do this, so the remote server refuses the message. >More importantly, can I get the message through with this >limitation - if so, how? > No. This is on the wish-list for the next version of MX.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 07:38:17 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 13:35:06 GMT From: "Andy Harper, KCL Systems Manager" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: udaa055@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk Message-ID: <00983B94.693B1CE0.35@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Why is 8BIT extension required? >>Enclosed is the transaction log from a bounced mail message. The error code >>clearly shows >> `554 8BIT SMTP extension not supported' >> >>Why would I need it for a simple text message? > >Are you *sure* there wasn't an 8-bit character in the message >somewhere? Maybe in the headers? Some people like to use 8-bit >characters in their personal names, and this can cause this problem. Thanks Hunter, I'ld checked the mail message for obvious binary stuff but in fact it contained two pound signs, which have an ascii code of %XA3 in the extended DEC character set, hence requiring 8-BIT which the other end doesn't support. Regards, Andy Harper Kings College London ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 07:59:39 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 07:58:36 CDT From: "George D. Greenwade" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00983B65.66C82E64.9@SHSU.edu> Subject: RE: Why is 8BIT extension required? On Tue, 30 Aug 1994 05:27:38 CDT, "Hunter Goatley, WKU" replied: > "Andy Harper, KCL Systems Manager" writes: > > > >Dear MX'ers, > > > >Enclosed is the transaction log from a bounced mail message. The error code > >clearly shows > > `554 8BIT SMTP extension not supported' > > > >Why would I need it for a simple text message? > > Are you *sure* there wasn't an 8-bit character in the message somewhere? > Maybe in the headers? Some people like to use 8-bit characters in their > personal names, and this can cause this problem. Two German sites recently had quite a few users begin using proper 8-bit ASCII characters in their sig blocks (instead of the traditional 7-bit ASCII hack of "oe"). A real pain that it can't be accepted by some servers. I contacted the people who were "regulars" on the lists where I was seeing this and they have gone back to the "oe" approach instead (which is a real shame, but someday.....). --George %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% George D. Greenwade, Ph.D. Internet: bed_gdg@SHSU.edu Department of Economics and Business Analysis THEnet: SHSU::BED_GDG College of Business Administration Voice: (409) 294-1266 Sam Houston State University FAX: (409) 294-3612 Huntsville, TX 77341-2118 USA %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 21:02:46 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: leebp@iscs.nus.sg Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 10:02:44 SST Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <00983C3F.E898C847.74@dec7000.iscs.nus.sg> Subject: Router entry and SMTP_SERVER threads Guys, Currently, I forward non-local mails to a default mail gateway but traffic is heavy. So, I need MX 4.1 (on OpenVMS 5.5-2/Vax) to send mails to hosts within my domain directly. In short, I need mails bound for hosts A, B, C to be sent to A, B, C respectively instead of currently going to the mail gateway. What router rule should I define? Will the following work? 1) DEFINE PATH *.iscs.nus.sg SMTP OR: 2) DEFINE PATH *.iscs.nus.sg SMTP/ROUTE=*.iscs.nus.sg BTW, Hunter, I was wondering if you are considering increasing the number of threads for the SMTP_SERVER process in future versions of MX? Just that at my site, I usually hit the max of 16 threads ... I don't want to add to your growing wish-list though :) Thanks ... Paul ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 23:38:51 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: dmdj@comms.moc.govt.nz (Mike Jensen) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: MX Aliases - How ? Date: 31 Aug 1994 03:53:04 GMT Message-ID: <340ur0$r5o@st-james.comp.vuw.ac.nz> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I am running MX 4.0-1 VAX. My username on the VAX is DMDJ, but I want this to appear to the outside world to be more friendly, eg Mike.Jensen@comms.moc.govt.nz (instead of dmdj@comms.moc.govt.nz). Can MX do this, and how? Most of my 100 or so users will want to use this friendly "alias" facility if it is feasible. Thanks. Mike Jensen dmdj@comms.moc.govt.nz ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 00:08:06 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 08:00:52 +0300 From: Nader Nasry Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00983C2E.E285C740.1@sukair.cc.uob.bh> Subject: RE: MX Aliases - How ? On Wed, 31 Aug 1994 at 7:43 am +3, said : > > > I am running MX 4.0-1 VAX. My username on the VAX is DMDJ, but > I want this to appear to the outside world to be more friendly, eg > > Mike.Jensen@comms.moc.govt.nz > > (instead of dmdj@comms.moc.govt.nz). > > Can MX do this, and how? Most of my 100 or so users will want > to use this friendly "alias" facility if it is feasible. > > Thanks. > Mike Jensen > dmdj@comms.moc.govt.nz > Just try to use the NAME_CONVERSION Module, it is in the [.CONTRIB] subdirectory, it works fine. Nader Nasry Nodes Administrator and VAX Systems Manager, Tel: (973) 449204 Computer Centre, University of Bahrain, P.O.Box 32038, Bahrain ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 07:59:23 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 08:50:28 EDT From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: uunet!WKUVX1.WKU.EDU!mx-list@esseye.si.com CC: leebp@iscs.nus.sg Message-ID: <00983C35.D0215B80.38@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: Router entry and SMTP_SERVER threads > Currently, I forward non-local mails to a default mail gateway but >traffic is heavy. So, I need MX 4.1 (on OpenVMS 5.5-2/Vax) to send mails >to hosts within my domain directly. In short, I need mails bound for hosts >A, B, C to be sent to A, B, C respectively instead of currently going to the >mail gateway. What router rule should I define? Will the following work? > >1) DEFINE PATH *.iscs.nus.sg SMTP > >OR: > >2) DEFINE PATH *.iscs.nus.sg SMTP/ROUTE=*.iscs.nus.sg Hmm... I, too use a mail gateway for addresses that aren't within my local domain, but for me, MX always (and has always since V3.0, probably before) send the mail directly to the systems in my domain. I just two kinds of DEFINE PATH statements: the LOCAL ones for the nodes in the cluster where MX runs and the default DEFINE PATH * SMTP. Then on the SET SMTP command I have a /DEFAULT_ROUTER defined. That's all as far as path definitions. Yet MX looks up the names of the systems to which people send mail and contacts them directly if the names can be found. > BTW, Hunter, I was wondering if you are considering increasing the >number of threads for the SMTP_SERVER process in future versions of MX? Just >that at my site, I usually hit the max of 16 threads ... I don't want to add >to your growing wish-list though :) Why not just run more SMTP_SERVER agents? You can run two, three, four, or whatever your needs are. Each can handle up to 16 threads. The only real limit is how many connections to port 25 your TCP/IP package will allow. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- Brian Tillman | Internet: tillman@swdev.si.com Smiths Industries, Inc. | tillman_brian@si.com 4141 Eastern Ave., MS129 | Hey, I said this stuff myself. Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 08:04:31 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 09:04:24 EDT From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: uunet!WKUVX1.WKU.EDU!mx-list@esseye.si.com CC: dmdj@comms.moc.govt.nz Message-ID: <00983C37.C2790A80.71@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: MX Aliases - How ? First, define an alias for yourself (or have the system administrator do it if your not the sysadmin) in mail like this: MAIL> set forward/user=mike.jensen dmdj Now, add the following to your login command procedure: $ define mx_reply_to "Mike.Jensen@comms.moc.govt.mz" The first will cause "Mike.Jensen" to be recognized as a VMS Mail address on incoming mail and mail will be forwarded to your real username. The second will set your Reply-To: header on outbound mail so many mailers will see the "friendlier" address as the place to which mail should be sent. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- Brian Tillman | Internet: tillman@swdev.si.com Smiths Industries, Inc. | tillman_brian@si.com 4141 Eastern Ave., MS129 | Hey, I said this stuff myself. Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 08:17:11 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 08:17:00 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00983C31.2341F68F.3@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Router entry and SMTP_SERVER threads "Brian Tillman" writes: > >> BTW, Hunter, I was wondering if you are considering increasing the >>number of threads for the SMTP_SERVER process in future versions of MX? Just >>that at my site, I usually hit the max of 16 threads ... I don't want to add >>to your growing wish-list though :) > >Why not just run more SMTP_SERVER agents? You can run two, three, four, or >whatever your needs are. Each can handle up to 16 threads. The only real limit >is how many connections to port 25 your TCP/IP package will allow. Only one process can listen on port 25, so you cannot run multiple SMTP_SERVER agents. And yes, increasing that limit is on the wish list. I need to see what'll be required quota-wise to do that. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 09:40:17 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 10:40:18 EDT From: "Michael H. Spence, Eastman Chemical" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00983C45.284F10E0.9@stc150.kpt.emn.com> Subject: Address Rewrite I have a question about defining the Address rewriting rules. I subscribe to a list on LanManager topics. When I receive notes from this list the from address is always specified as : lanman-l@nihlist.bitnet I cannot directly reply to these notes from our site. I can however reply to the address lanman-l@list.nih.gov and the note will be posted to the list. Would an address rewrite rule work in this case? mcp> define rewrite_rule "<{u}@nihlist.bitnet" "<{u}@list.nih.gov>" Thanks.... ======================================================================= Michael H. Spence (mspence@emn.com) | "I'm still the apple of my Computing & Telecommunication Services | mama's eye. I'm my daddy's Eastman Chemical Company | worst fears realized..." Kingsport, TN USA | Steve Earle ======================================================================= ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 09:42:13 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 10:28:07 EDT From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: uunet!WKUVX1.WKU.EDU!mx-list@esseye.si.com Message-ID: <00983C43.74B64F40.59@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: Router entry and SMTP_SERVER threads Hunter Goatley (goathunter@wku.edu) writes: >Only one process can listen on port 25, so you cannot run multiple >SMTP_SERVER agents. Perhaps I should have said "if you have a cluster". I run two SMTP servers; one each on two nodes of a cluster. Our DNS has the cluster alias and those two nodes defined in such a way (with MX records, I believe, but I'm not sure) that mail destined for the cluster alias just picks one of the two specific nodes, so I receive mail through multiple systems. Here are a couple of notifications, for example: New mail on node ZEQOLL from MX%"uu net!panix.com!markk@esseye.si.com" (10:06:46) New mail on node BARRY from M X%"uunet!acc.wuacc.edu!stutzman@esseye.si.com" (10: ( Barry and Zeqoll are the nodes where SM TP Server runs.) These messages were both addressed to me identical ly. The mail router somehow arbitrates and I ca n have up to 32 simultaneous connections inbound. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 11:52:51 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 11:52:38 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00983C4F.431E193E.3@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Address Rewrite "Michael H. Spence, Eastman Chemical" writes: > >I have a question about defining the Address rewriting rules. > >I subscribe to a list on LanManager topics. When I receive notes from this list >the from address is always specified as : lanman-l@nihlist.bitnet I cannot >directly reply to these notes from our site. I can however reply to the address >lanman-l@list.nih.gov and the note will be posted to the list. > >Would an address rewrite rule work in this case? > > mcp> define rewrite_rule "<{u}@nihlist.bitnet" "<{u}@list.nih.gov>" > Yes, that's one way to do it. Another would be to set up a PATH like: MCP> DEFINE PATH *.BITNET SMTP/ROUTE=cunyvm.cuny.edu Or some other BITNET/Internet gateway. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 11:54:49 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 11:54:35 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00983C4F.88CF6915.11@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Router entry and SMTP_SERVER threads "Brian Tillman" writes: > >Hunter Goatley (goathunter@wku.edu) writes: > >>Only one process can listen on port 25, so you cannot run multiple >>SMTP_SERVER agents. > >Perhaps I should have said "if you have a cluster". I should have said that too.... >Barry and Zeqoll are the nodes where SM >TP Server runs.) These messages were both addressed to me identical >ly. The mail router somehow arbitrates and I ca >n have up to 32 simultaneous connections inbound. > If both are listed, and a server fails to connect to the primary system (the one with the lowest MX record preference), it'll then automatically connect to another system with the next lowest preference. As you've shown, that is one way around the 16-thread limit. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 12:13:05 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: dhuddleson@krypton.gandalf.ca Subject: NAME_CONVERSION hints... Date: 31 Aug 1994 16:58:36 GMT Message-ID: <342crs$ih3@hobbit.gandalf.ca> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hi, This question actually pertains to NAME_CONVERSION for the Newsreader product NEWSRDR, but I don't know of a VMSNET newsgroup that deals with the NEWSRDR product directly.... I want to add a site change for the return address of a person posting or replying from the VAX NEWSRDR. Instead of ending up with the string "vms-username@hostname", I want to see "vms-username%A1@hostname". As you can see, all I want is to tack in 3 letters "%A1". But what I don't understand (with my limited "C" experience) is what section of NAME_ CONVERSION procedure needs to be tweaked... I know this should be blatantly simple, but what don't I see?? David Huddleson PS. This change will be used my MX in-bound Rewrite rules to cause all messages to be transported into Message Router. (all users on this system use ALL-IN-1, and we route within M-Router to other DECNET'd ALL-IN-1 systems and users... ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 13:22:53 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: desroches@willow.ulowell.edu (Dick Desroches, ACC Systems Manager) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Is MX 3.1 compatible with VMS 6.1? Date: 31 Aug 94 13:18:33 -0500 Message-ID: <1994Aug31.131833.1@willow.ulowell.edu> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU We have just finished upgrading from VMS 5.5-2 to 6.1. We are running MX 3.1. In all the confusion I forgot to take MX into account. Since rebooting under VMS 6.1 we are having trouble with email. I can't say for sure if it is in MX or Message Router or MailWorks but I guess I should ask the simple question: is MX 3.1 compatible with VMS 6.1 or do I need to upgrade to MX 4.0??? Thanks, Dick Desroches ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 14:12:57 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 14:12:42 CDT From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00983C62.D468C688.4@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Is MX 3.1 compatible with VMS 6.1? desroches@willow.ulowell.edu (Dick Desroches, ACC Systems Manager) writes: > >We have just finished upgrading from VMS 5.5-2 to 6.1. We are running MX >3.1. In all the confusion I forgot to take MX into account. > >Since rebooting under VMS 6.1 we are having trouble with email. I can't >say for sure if it is in MX or Message Router or MailWorks but I guess I >should ask the simple question: is MX 3.1 compatible with VMS 6.1 I can't think of any reason that it wouldn't be, but you should probably reinstall it. >or do I >need to upgrade to MX 4.0??? > You *should* upgrade to V4.1, since a) many, many new features have been added and some bugs fixed and b) I have no way to support, test, or answer any questions about V3.x. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 14:42:26 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 15:10:31 EDT From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: uunet!WKUVX1.WKU.EDU!mx-list@esseye.si.com Message-ID: <00983C6A.E8196CC0.13@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: NAME_CONVERSION hints... dhuddleson@krypton.gandalf.ca writes: >PS. This change will be used my MX in-bound Rewrite rules to cause all > messages to be transported into Message Router. (all users on > this system use ALL-IN-1, and we route within M-Router to other > DECNET'd ALL-IN-1 systems and users... Hm.. I though MX's rewrite rules applied only to outbound mail. -- Brian tillman_brian@si.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 16:04:43 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: dhuddleson@krypton.gandalf.ca Subject: RE: NAME_CONVERSION hints... Date: 31 Aug 1994 20:36:04 GMT Message-ID: <342pjk$ka3@hobbit.gandalf.ca> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU >dhuddleson@krypton.gandalf.ca writes: >>PS. This change will be used my MX in-bound Rewrite rules to cause all >>... >Brian replies: > >Hm.. I though MX's rewrite rules applied only to outbound mail. >-- The rewrite rules are processed on INBOUND messages only. To rewrite for outbound requires providing a NAME_CONVERSION routine. In my case, as long as I can provide what I need going OUTBOUND, my INBOUND rules will do what I want them to do!!! David ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 16:38:09 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 16:33:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Rick Stacks Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: RE: NAME_CONVERSION hints... To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00983C76.863BE760.1@adpce.lrk.ar.us> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Brian Tillman writes: > >dhuddleson@krypton.gandalf.ca writes: > >>PS. This change will be used my MX in-bound Rewrite rules to cause all >> messages to be transported into Message Router. (all users on >> this system use ALL-IN-1, and we route within M-Router to other >> DECNET'd ALL-IN-1 systems and users... > >Hm.. I though MX's rewrite rules applied only to outbound mail. >-- I thought that MX's rewrite rules applied only to inbound mail and that the NAME_CONVERSION routine applied to outbound mail... -- Rick +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Rick Stacks, Sr. Programmer Analyst | They that give up essential liberty | | Ark Dept Pollution Control & Ecology | to obtain a little temporary safety | | 8001 National Dr. / POB 8913 | deserve neither liberty nor safety | | Little Rock, AR 72219 USA | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 | | email: stacks@adpce.lrk.ar.us | | |--------------------------------------+-------------------------------------| ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 17:59:00 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 17:58:02 CDT From: "Robert H. McClanahan, Manager TIS" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <00983C82.4ED02AA0.16@tis.aecc.com> Subject: Rewrite Rules in MX Greetings, I'm running MX V4.0 under VMS 5.5-2. I am using only the UUCP transport. When using UUCP rewrite rules (logical MX_UUCP_REWRITE has value TRUE), does MX ignore the MX rewrite rules and aliases entirely? (I would abandon UUCP rewrite rules altogether, but I like being able to modify FROM addresses and my understanding is that MX rewrite rules only modify TO addresses.) I'm trying to capture outbound mail to LISTSERV addresses and route them to Postmaster for review, before forwarding them on to the appropriate LISTSERV. I'm having trouble rewriting these addresses and making them go to Postmaster. They keep bouncing back to the sender with an indication that "postmaster@my_domain" is an invalid address. I have POSTMASTER aliased to my username, I have a logical name for POSTMASTER which points to my username and I created a forwarding entry in the VMS mail database for POSTMASTER. I still can't quite follow how the address rewrite works with the MX/UUCP combination. Any help in understanding the rewrite/alias process would be greatly appreciated. RHM +--+ Robert H. McClanahan, Manager, Technical Information Systems <[]>< Arkansas Electric Coop Corp | Email: rmcclanahan@tis.aecc.com Post Office Box 194208 | Phone: (501) 570-2403 Little Rock, AR 72219-4208 USA | All Opinions are mine, not the Coop's ... ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 23:22:51 CDT Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 21:24:57 PDT From: "Brian R. Kuhn" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu CC: bkuhn@SD68.NANAIMO.BC.CA Message-ID: <00983C9F.36E0F9C0.6@SD68.NANAIMO.BC.CA> Subject: MX 4.1, Multinet 3.3, OpenVMS 6.1, AXP Hello fellow MXers, I just installed 4.1 on my AXP 2000-500 VMS 6.1 running Multinet 3.3. I can send mail to myself on that node eg. To: mx%"bkuhn@bbs.sd68.nanaimo.bc.ca" and it arrives OK. I can send mail from that node to myself on this node eg. To: mx%"bkuhn@sd68.nanaimo.bc.ca" and it arrives OK. I can NOT send mail from here to that node eg. To: mx%"bkuhn@bbs.sd68.nanaimo.bc.ca" the mail queues up on this node running MX as well but never arrives on the BBS node?? Any thots, suggestions, clues, ah has, etc.?? thanks, Brian ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian R. 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