Archive-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 1995 00:05:14 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sun, 01 Jan 1995 00:05:06 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <00989C93.CC77D054.135@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU> Subject: MX-LIST Administrivia: Monthly Post Posting statistics for list MX-LIST during December 1994 Total number of posts: 154 Total number of posters: 76 Total number of subscribers: 253 Total number of digest subscribers: 51 Last modified: 7-JUL-1994 10:04 (Updated version info) Welcome to MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, an electronic mailing list established for the discussion of the Message Exchange mail software. This is a routine posting you will see from time to time on MX-List. MX-List postings are also available in a daily digest format. To subscribe to the digest, send the following command in the body of a mail message to MXserver@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU: SUBSCRIBE MX-List-Digest "Your real name here" The MX-List archives are maintained at ARCHIVES@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU. To get a copy of any month's postings, send an e-mail message with the body SEND MX-List.yyyy-mm to ARCHIVES@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, where "yyyy" is the year and "mm" is the numeric representation of the month. For example, the message SENDME MX-List.1992-04 will send the archives for April 1992. MX itself is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.spc.edu in [.MX.MX041]. You can also get it via e-mail by sending the commands SEND MX and SEND FILESERV_TOOLS on separate lines in the body of a mail message to FILESERV@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU. To remove yourself from the mailing list, send the following command to MXserver@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU: SIGNOFF MX-List MXserver supports a few other commands for your convenience. The following commands can be handled automatically by the list processor: SIGNOFF MX-List - to remove yourself from the list REVIEW MX-List - to get a list of subscribers QUERY MX-List - to get the status of your entry on the list SET MX-List NOMAIL - to remain on the list but not receive mail SET MX-List MAIL - to resume receiving mail from the list SET MX-List CONCEAL - to not report your address in a REVIEW SET MX-List NOCONCEAL - to report your address in a REVIEW SET MX-List REPRO - to receive posts you make to MX-List SET MX-List NOREPRO - to not receive posts you make to MX-List LIST - to get a list of mailing lists served by WKUVX1 HELP - to receive a help file By default, subscriptions are set to MAIL, REPRO, NOCONCEAL. If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions about MX-List, please contact the list owner at the address below. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Hunter Goatley, VAX Systems Programmer goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Western Kentucky University Academic Computing, STH 226 (502) 745-5251 Bowling Green, KY 42101 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 1995 14:59:34 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: buczek@FHI-Berlin.MPG.DE (Donald Buczek) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: RE: MXmas wishlist Message-ID: <1995Jan1.215209.8303@rz-berlin.mpg.de> Date: 1 Jan 95 21:52:09 +0100 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <1994Dec29.115238.8300@rz-berlin.mpg.de>, buczek@FHI-Berlin.MPG.DE (Donald Buczek) writes: In article <3du7oj$d7d@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) writes: Donald: > btw: Wouldn't it be more sensible not to resolve the address ? The > machine answering the PTR query may well be the same machine the > mail comes from. Assume some hacker got into your nameserver - changes > the in-addr.arpa zone and uses the same machine to send anoying > anonymous mail. Carl: > Well, in that case, your network is compromised badly enough that it's not > likely that MX's behavior is going to be terribly useful in detecting such > things. Carl (in another post <3e149k$cd5@gap.cco.caltech.edu> following up to Ray Harwood): > You'll find that this whole subthread is conditional on somone having > breached your network security sufficiently that they've taken over > your name servers. I used 'someone hacked into you nameserver' as an example of how to insert bogus information into the DNS. I think there are other ways to poison the DNS caches which don't require access to the responsible nameserver. Sorry I didn't make clear this was just an example. The behavior of mailers may be useful to detect such things. There are lot of networks connected to the internet without the lowest level of security - mainly just because the adminstrators have to do other jobs with a higher priority and dont have the time to care about security. Systems on such networks can be used (and are used) as file-servers for pirated software or as alternatives to anon.pnet.fi without anyone responsible knowing whats going on. But mails leave such networks and may attract attention of other people with more time or knowledge. If these people have a way to track down where the mail originated from, they can help by giving a hint to these unaware administrators who have failed to find out themself. Carl: > Then, of course, there's the fact that MX only puts the name it > actually found in the header line if the host DOESN'T resolve to the > name given on the HELO line. > You could, I suppose, have MX put the IP address in the received line on > every message it handles, but in that case, you've got no indication there > whether or not the address resolved correctly. Right. If we asume the DNS to be unsecure it would make sense to put the address in every mail (even if the name lookup matches the HELO). I'd vote for that. Not as a "this mail may be faked" flag for the receiver but to add the posibility to track down the origin of a mail if it got your attention by some other means (eg its contents). There are so many possible reasons for a failure or a non-match for the HELO name that this step could even be skiped without loosing much. Donald: > The IP address is the only thing which has to have some truth in it, Carl: > NO, it doesn't have to have any truth in it. Somebody could set up a > system as a TCP/IP router, set an arbitrary address on a machine on the > far side of the router, send mail, from that machine, then set its address > back to what it normally is. Im aware of that. This is why I said _some_ truth and gave the "Or you can traceroute to the address and inform a neighbour organisation" example. If you don't get a sufficient response from the people in charge of the last hop you can inquire the people in charge for the router before this one and so on. Even if the address is wrong, it points in the right direction. Though probably unnecessary I take this opportunity to ask Hunter not to modify MX to reject mail, whatever the DNS says about the domain. Not even as an option, please, because there might be people who switch it on :-). An numeric IP address in the received line would IMO be more logical than a resolved IP address, but this is a very minor point and I confess this may be personal preference. Of course all this has nothing to do with whether e-mail can or can not be faked. It can. Thanks for the followups to Carl J Lydick, Steve Kneizys and Ray Harwood. Donald ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 1995 19:08:56 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: mrhine@twc.dragon.com (michael...2544) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: mx to wp office gateway tips and trix Date: 4 Jan 95 19:53:14 EST Message-ID: <1995Jan4.195314@landmark.net> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU anyone have any luck or guidance on interfacing mx with a word perfect mail gateway? any input would be appreciated! thanks... ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 1995 21:19:16 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 04 Jan 1995 21:17:30 EST From: Chris Olive Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: olive@sgi.siemens.com Message-ID: <00989FA1.0C494860.9@sgi.siemens.com> Subject: RE: mx to wp office gateway tips and trix In article <1995Jan4.195314@landmark.net>, mrhine@twc.dragon.com (michael...2544) writes: >anyone have any luck or guidance on interfacing mx with a word perfect >mail gateway? > >any input would be appreciated! There are some guys in state government down in post-Clinton state (Arkansas) who run WP Office and MX. I seem to recall a guy named Rick Stacks (close?), but can't remember his IP address. Rick used to frequent here. Break 19, hey Rick, you guys got your ears on? If Hunter has REVIEW enabled, perhaps a REVIEW MX-LIST command to mx-list-request@wkuvx1.wku.edu would help. I don't know if REVIEW sends back IP addresses or not. Chris _______________________________________________________________________________ ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ _ _ ___ /___ | |__ |\ /| |__ |\ | /___ Chris Olive, VMS Systems Consultant ___/ _|_ |___ | Y | |___ | \| ___/ Internet: olive@sgi.siemens.com Medical Systems, Inc. Voice: 708.304.7793 2501 N. Barrington Road. FAX: 708.304.7704 Hoffman Estates, IL 60195 CompuServe: 73740,1636 _______________________________________________________________________________ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 02:15:18 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: sharp@noao.edu (Nigel Sharp) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: MX handling of DECnet mail ? Neophyte questions. Date: 5 Jan 1995 08:04:08 GMT Message-ID: <3eg95o$sak@noao.edu> Keywords: "@"-patch To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I am new to MX, which I am hoping to use to replace a very old customized DECnet/TCP mail gateway (running on a 750 I can't afford to keep functioning!). I apologise if this has been answered before, but I have not found a FAQ and it wasn't in the "stored" news I found on one of the ftp sites and religiously read. MX 4.1, VMS 5.5-2, CMUIP 6.6-5A or Multinet 3.0 (some nodes have money!) a) the patch to allow addresses "user@node" without the MX% claims that nodes without a period are no longer translated to DECnet. However, the version I have found everywhere I have looked does indeed translate "user@node_without_period" to node::user (patch dated 24 July 1993). I think I'm right since the included comments to change back to the node::user behaviour refer to lines I cannot find in the patch, implying somebody has already removed them. Can anyone send me the other version of the patch without this feature ? That is, I want the one that passes all "user@node" strings to MX regardless of the presence of periods. b) this patch does not appear to work for incoming DECnet mail. I would very much like remote DECnet sites to be able to send gatewayed mail using node::"user@unix.host", particularly for upwards compatibility with our aforementioned old mailer. Is this too much to hope for, or am I missing something that already does this ? I have no control over the remote DECnet nodes, and would have great fun trying to locate everyone who uses our gateway to tell them they need to change their syntax. I have read everything I could find (and I'm feeling a little saturated!) without seeing these mentioned. I hope I didn't miss something obvious. Nigel Sharp, National Optical Astronomy Observatories NOAO::NSHARP P.O. Box 26732, Tucson, AZ 85726 (602--325-9273) nsharp@noao.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 06:57:24 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: ccdarg@zippy.dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: MX handling of DECnet mail ? Neophyte questions. Message-ID: <1995Jan5.103827.9564@zippy.dct.ac.uk> Date: 5 Jan 95 10:38:27 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <3eg95o$sak@noao.edu>, sharp@noao.edu (Nigel Sharp) writes: > I am new to MX, which I am hoping to use to replace a very old > customized DECnet/TCP mail gateway (running on a 750 I can't afford to > keep functioning!). I apologise if this has been answered before, but > I have not found a FAQ and it wasn't in the "stored" news I found on one > of the ftp sites and religiously read. > > MX 4.1, VMS 5.5-2, CMUIP 6.6-5A or Multinet 3.0 (some nodes have money!) > > a) the patch to allow addresses "user@node" without the MX% claims that > nodes without a period are no longer translated to DECnet. However, > the version I have found everywhere I have looked does indeed translate > "user@node_without_period" to node::user (patch dated 24 July 1993). > I think I'm right since the included comments to change back to the > node::user behaviour refer to lines I cannot find in the patch, implying > somebody has already removed them. Can anyone send me the other version > of the patch without this feature ? That is, I want the one that passes > all "user@node" strings to MX regardless of the presence of periods. Go to the section of code: ' tstl r0' ' bneq cdbcs2 ' ! ; ! ! ; build B::A for case 3 'cdbcs3: pushl #5341213A ' ! ; ctrstr #^A/:!AS/ And take your pick of methods to stop the code beginning at cdbcs3: from being executed. Either whip all the code out or just stick ' beql cdbcs2 ' ! ; always branch (case 2) after ' bneq cdbcs2 ' ! ; which I think is the way the patch instructions expect you to do it. -- Alan Greig Janet: A.Greig@uk.ac.dct University of Abertay Dundee Internet: A.Greig@dct.ac.uk Tel: (0382) 308810 Int +44 382 308810 ** Never underestimate the power of human stupidity ** ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 07:04:58 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 07:02:17 -0600 (CST) From: Rick Stacks Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: RE: mx to wp office gateway tips and trix To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: stacks@adpce.lrk.ar.us Message-ID: <00989FF2.BD8DAB60.1@adpce.lrk.ar.us> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Chris Olive writes: > >In article <1995Jan4.195314@landmark.net>, mrhine@twc.dragon.com >(michael...2544) writes: > >>anyone have any luck or guidance on interfacing mx with a word perfect >>mail gateway? >> >>any input would be appreciated! > >There are some guys in state government down in post-Clinton state >(Arkansas) who run WP Office and MX. I seem to recall a guy named >Rick Stacks (close?), but can't remember his IP address. Rick used >to frequent here. Break 19, hey Rick, you guys got your ears on? > 10-4 ther litle buddy ;-) (said with a Southern country twang ;-) ;-) ) Luck? Not really... Some advice? yeah... DON'T! Seriously, we've managed to get everything to work but its not all that pretty. But in this case we don't care about pretty if'n it works. *Disclaimer* What I'm about to describe may not (probably isn't) the best/only method of getting WP/WPO to work with MX/UUCP, *but* it works here. We are using MX + UUCP. I have turned *off* the MX rewrite rules and use the UUCP rewrite rules exclusively. The rewrite rules are set to get everything working together at our site as well as being a UUCP router to another local site. Email me and I'll be glad to share what I have with you. An energetic person can probably get what I've done to work using only MX -- its just that I already had UUCP up and running and installed MX about a year later and didn't feel like changing what worked. > >Chris > Hi Chris -- >_______________________________________________________________________________ > ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ _ _ ___ > /___ | |__ |\ /| |__ |\ | /___ Chris Olive, VMS Systems Consultant > ___/ _|_ |___ | Y | |___ | \| ___/ Internet: olive@sgi.siemens.com > Medical Systems, Inc. Voice: 708.304.7793 > 2501 N. Barrington Road. FAX: 708.304.7704 > Hoffman Estates, IL 60195 CompuServe: 73740,1636 >_______________________________________________________________________________ -- Rick ---------- Rick Stacks, Sr. Programmer Analyst | They that give up essential liberty Ark Dept Pollution Control & Ecology | to obtain a little temporary safety 8001 National Dr. / POB 8913 | deserve neither liberty nor safety Little Rock, AR 72219 USA | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 voice: 501-570-2174 fax: 501-562-4632 email: stacks@adpce.lrk.ar.us ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 08:51:51 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: michael@eichow.tuwien.ac.at (Michael Schindler) Subject: setting timezones in mx Date: 5 Jan 1995 13:50:00 GMT Message-ID: <3egte8$1p4@news.tuwien.ac.at> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU hello! this might be a stupid question, but i inherited the mx installation: how do i change the timezone added to sent/received mails? i currently get EST but definitly want MET, since some mailers sort mails according to timezones, which makes 8 hours difference. thanks for any help Michael Schindler ----- Michael Schindler, Dep. of Computergraphics, Technical University Vienna -- Austria (thats in Europe) If you cant mail me, blame: 1) my mail daemon for crashing 2) your maildaemon for making .@ out of .at 3) me for ignorance. ! My thoughts, not my employers. (which is, formally, the republic of Austria) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 09:47:20 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 10:29:13 EST From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: uunet!WKUVX1.WKU.EDU!mx-list@esseye.si.com CC: michael@eichow.tuwien.ac.at Message-ID: <0098A00F.A6540EE0.10@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: setting timezones in mx >this might be a stupid question, but i inherited the mx installation: > >how do i change the timezone added to sent/received mails? >i currently get EST but definitly want MET, since some mailers sort >mails according to timezones, which makes 8 hours difference. Not exactly stupid, but the answer is documented. See section 3.5 of the MX Installation Guide. -- Brian tillman_brian@si.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 12:29:26 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 12:29:16 EST From: Bob Christenson Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098A020.6B881DE0.1@fcstc1.frco.com> Subject: RE: setting timezones in mx michael@eichow.tuwien.ac.at (Michael Schindler) writes: } } hello! } } this might be a stupid question, but i inherited the mx installation: } } how do i change the timezone added to sent/received mails? } i currently get EST but definitly want MET, since some mailers sort } mails according to timezones, which makes 8 hours difference. } } thanks for any help } Michael Schindler } ----- } Michael Schindler, Dep. of Computergraphics, } Technical University Vienna -- Austria (thats in Europe) } If you cant mail me, blame: 1) my mail daemon for crashing } 2) your maildaemon for making .@ out of .at } 3) me for ignorance. } ! My thoughts, not my employers. (which is, formally, the republic of Austria) Suggestion: After inheriting MX, your first step should have been to read all of the manuals cover to cover at least once. See the MX Installation Manual in Chapter 3 Post-Installation Information, Section 3.5 Establishing Your Time Zone. Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ // Bob Christenson, Sr. Sys Analyst _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ // Fisher Controls Int., Inc. _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ // R.A. Engel Technical Center _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ // Marshalltown, IA 50158 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ // Voice Phone : (515) 754-3854 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ // FAX Phone : (515) 754-2831 _/_/_/_/_/. _/ _/. _/_/_/_/_/. // Inet Address: rachri1@fcseng.frco.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Christenson - Sr. Systems Analyst | Inet Address: rachri1@fcseng.frco.com Fisher Controls Int., Inc. | Voice Phone : (515) 754-3854 R.A. Engel Technical Center | FAX Phone : (515) 754-2831 South 12th Avenue | Marshalltown IA 50158 | "Why ask why?" ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 14:53:42 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: setting timezones in mx Date: 5 Jan 1995 20:36:51 GMT Message-ID: <3ehl93$245@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <3egte8$1p4@news.tuwien.ac.at>, michael@eichow.tuwien.ac.at (Michael Schindler) writes: #how do i change the timezone added to sent/received mails? #i currently get EST but definitly want MET, since some mailers sort #mails according to timezones, which makes 8 hours difference. See MX_DOC:MX_INSTALL_GUIDE.TXT. -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 01:16:27 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 16:16:12 JST From: Tim Burress Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098A109.49AA60E0.439@tanuki.twics.com> Subject: Bad forwarding address crashes LOCAL agent? We've just run into a problem here in which our LOCAL mail delivery agents are dying with an undocumented status code 1C278034. The apparent cause is a local recipient who has set a poorly formatted forwarding address. Instead of the MX%"""somebody@someplace""" he simply has somebody@someplace I suspect that this may really be a problem with the MAILSHR patch that allows us to leave off the MX, but thought this might be a good place to post a note in case anybody has ideas for a fix. We have a couple of thousand people here, and there's always going to be someone messing up those quotes... Tim -- Tim Burress tim@twics.com Twics -- Tokyo Public Internet Access http://www.twics.com/~tim/home.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 09:33:20 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 09:32:01 CST From: "Tom Chamberlain / 269 GB / Bartlesville (918)661-9744 / FAX: (918)662-2047 / " Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0098A0D0.D3687620.1@twctst.ppco.com> Subject: Re: setting timezones in mx In article <3egte8$1p4@news.tuwien.ac.at>, michael@eichow.tuwien.ac.at (Michael Schindler) writes: #how do i change the timezone added to sent/received mails? #i currently get EST but definitly want MET, since some mailers sort #mails according to timezones, which makes 8 hours difference. Several responders have referred Michael to section 3.5 of the MX installation guide. As documented, MX does indeed check for the existance of one of several time zone logicals and generates headers appropriately, but apparently it only checks executive-mode logical names. The WIN$TIME_ZONE logical set up by Wollongong's Pathway product (I'm running Pathway Access 1.0.1.0, MX 4.1 and VMS 5.5-2) is defined in supervisor mode and MX doesn't see it, leading to behavior similar to that seen by Mr. Schindler. One can define WIN$TIME_ZONE with the /SYSTEM and /EXECUTIVE_MODE qualifiers or use the MX_TIMEZONE logicals as outlined in 3.5.2 of the MX installation guide. Tom ================================================================================ Tom Chamberlain Phone: (918) 661-9744 Phillips Petroleum Company FAX: (918) 661-1910 269 Geoscience Building email: twc@ppco.com Bartlesville, OK 74004 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 11:07:06 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 11:56:00 EST From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: uunet!WKUVX1.WKU.EDU!mx-list@esseye.si.com Message-ID: <0098A0E4.F048A4E0.19@swdev.si.com> Subject: Re: setting timezones in mx Tom Chamberlain (twc@ppco.com) writes: >As documented, MX does indeed check for the existance of one of several >time zone logicals and generates headers appropriately, but apparently it >only checks executive-mode logical names. The WIN$TIME_ZONE logical set up >by Wollongong's Pathway product (I'm running Pathway Access 1.0.1.0, MX 4.1 and >VMS 5.5-2) is defined in supervisor mode and MX doesn't see it, leading to >behavior similar to that seen by Mr. Schindler. Since Pathway's installation does not require this logical name to be /EXEC, there may be other products that behave this way as well. I'd like to ask Hunter to drop the /EXEC mode requirement for this (and any other TCP/IP product-supplied logical name) that is not required to be /EXEC by the product itself. Otherwise, we'll have to remember to change the product's startup procedure each time we install a new version of it. By the way, Section 3.5 makes no mention of expecting the product-supplied time zone names to be /EXEC. -- Brian tillman_brian@si.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 13:00:31 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: dongray@genrad.co.uk Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: MX LOCAL dies %RMS-F-FNF Message-ID: <1995Jan6.122149.1@genrad.co.uk> Date: 6 Jan 95 12:21:49 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU One of our LOCAL processes has been repeatedly dying recently. The log file shows... 5-JAN-1995 13:58:13.13: MX Local (pid 0000A270) starting 5-JAN-1995 14:11:34.24: MX Local (pid 0000A270) exiting, status = 10018294 The status translates to "%RMS-F-FNF, file not found". About the same time as the last update of this file there is a debug log which just contains... 5-JAN-1995 14:11:32.99 Processing queue entry number 20 I.e. it seems to start processing an entry then loses it. I've checked and entry 20 is finished, so I've done a QUEUE COMPRESS and a QUEUE SYNCH. What's likely to have caused this and is it likely to happen again? One idea I had was that for a few days I tried running 3 LOCAL processes; I've now reduced it to 1; would the multiple copies have interfered with each other? -- Derek Dongray, Systems Manager, GenRad Ltd., Cheshire, UK. E-mail : dongray@genrad.com or Derek.Dongray@GenRad.co.uk PSS : 234261600119::Dongray CompuServe : 70374,2745 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 18:51:00 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: peter.burnett@seuk.com (Peter Burnett) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: setting timezones in mx Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 21:49:51 +0000 Message-ID: <5de_9501061720@seuk.com> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hello michael Thursday January 05 1995, michael@eichow.tuwien.ac.at writes to All: m> this might be a stupid question, but i inherited the mx installation: Let me asure you that to me it is not a stupid question. I had to ask this only days ago in another newsgroup... m> how do i change the timezone added to sent/received mails? m> i currently get EST but definitly want MET, since some mailers sort m> mails according to timezones, which makes 8 hours difference. The full details are in section 3.5 of the "Message Exchange Instalation Guide", but in short, define a logical :- MX_TIMEZONE = "MET" -- Peter Burnett Tel: 44-831-838714 SSSSS EEEEE U U K K 10 Parsons Close Fax: 44-1424-853364 S E U U K K St. Leonards On Sea Data: 44-1424-853361 SSSSS EEEE U U KKK East Sussex S E U U K K UK TN38 9QT system@vax1.seuk.com SSSSS EEEEE UUUU K K ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 23:22:06 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: leebp@iscs.nus.sg Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 13:19:04 SST To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0098A1B9.B567826C.288@iscs.nus.sg> Subject: Bitnet mail bounces to last Bitnet hop, not sender Hi ... I posted the following but I had no queries, maybe even possibly due to a mail problem which I experienced on Tuesday. So I'm retrying again. Thanks a lot .. Paul ------------------------ MESSAGE FOLLOWS ------------------------------------- Dear Guys, I have a problem pertaining Bitnet mails and I would appreciate any help or pointers. I have the following mail link setup and I'm running MX 4.1 on my VMS cluster with common MX root, common mail queue and common configuration file (i.e. common paths etc ..) and Wingra's Jnet/TCP/AXP 3.6: BITNET World ---> NUSVM.BITNET ---> NUSDISCS.BITNET (MX4.1 JNET) ^ (Dec7610 AXP which is part of cluster) | | leonis.nus.sg (for sending test mails) When Bitnet mails come through NUSVM.BITNET and goes to a user on NUSDISCS.BITNET and if the user does not exist, the mail is bounced to the postmaster or mailer of the last gateway, NUSVM.BITNET, instead of returning to the sender. I have included 2 test cases which involved sending mail from iscleebp@leonis.nus.sg to the address leebp@nusdiscs.bitnet. The unsuccessful case should bounce to iscleebp@leonis but it doesn't. Note that the problem occurs for all Bitnet mail only. An interesting point is that the first return path is as follows: Return-Path: <@iscs.nus.sg:MAILER@NUSVM.BITNET> followed by: Return-Path: Could this, then be the problem, and do I have to include any rewriting rule to bypass this? I would be grateful for any help. Thanks a lot and happy new year. Paul =============================================================================== CASE 1: User exists (Received following mail from iscleebp@leonis.nus.sg) From: MX%"iscleebp@leonis.nus.sg" 30-DEC-1994 12:40:35.15 To: LEEBP CC: Subj: Return-Path: <@iscs.nus.sg:MAILER@NUSVM.BITNET> Received: from NUSVM (MAILER) by iscs.nus.sg (MX V4.1 AXP) with Jnet; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 12:40:31 SST Return-Path: Received: from NUSVM (NJE origin SMTP@NUSVM) by NUSVM.NUS.SG (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6774; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 12:41:43 +0800 Received: from leonis.nus.sg by NUSVM.NUS.SG (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 30 Dec 94 12:41:42 SST Received: (from iscleebp@localhost) by leonis.nus.sg (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id MAA32565 for leebp@nusdiscs.bitnet; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 12:40:33 +0800 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 12:40:33 +0800 From: lee boon peng Message-ID: <199412300440.MAA32565@leonis.nus.sg> Apparently-To: leebp@nusdiscs.bitnet hello =============================================================================== =============================================================================== CASE 2: User does not exist From: MX%"Postmaster@iscs.nus.sg" 30-DEC-1994 11:18:41.11 To: MX%"<@iscs.nus.sg:MAILER@NUSVM.BITNET>" CC: MX%"Postmaster@iscs.nus.sg" Subj: LOCAL delivery error Return-Path: <> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 11:18:36 SST From: Local delivery agent To: <@iscs.nus.sg:MAILER@NUSVM.BITNET> CC: Postmaster@iscs.nus.sg Subject: LOCAL delivery error X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:" Note: this message was generated automatically. An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. --> Error description: Error-For: lugj@iscs.nus.sg Error-Code: 3 Error-Text: No such local user Error-End: 1 error detected ------------------------------ Rejected message ------------------------------ Received: from NUSVM (MAILER) by iscs.nus.sg (MX V4.1 AXP) with Jnet; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 11:18:33 SST Return-Path: Received: from NUSVM (NJE origin SMTP@NUSVM) by NUSVM.NUS.SG (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6609; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 11:19:46 +0800 Received: from leonis.nus.sg by NUSVM.NUS.SG (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 30 Dec 94 11:19:45 SST Received: (from iscleebp@localhost) by leonis.nus.sg (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id LAA12968 for lugj@nusdiscs.bitnet; Fri, 30 Dec 1994 11:18:35 +0800 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 11:18:35 +0800 From: lee boon peng Message-ID: <199412300318.LAA12968@leonis.nus.sg> Apparently-To: lugj@nusdiscs.bitnet hello 2.. =============================================================================== Some config info for MX 4.1 (Jnet) ---------------------------------- Domain-to-path mappings: Domain="NUSDISCS.BITNET", Path=Local Domain="ISCS.NUS.SG", Path=Local Domain="NUSDISCS", Path=Local Domain="*.ISCS.NUS.SG", Path=SMTP Domain="*.BITNET", Path=SMTP, Route="NUSVM.NUS.SG" Domain="*", Path=SMTP, Route="MAILHOST.ISCS.NUS.SG" MCP> show jnet JNET agent settings: Automatic percent-hack handling: enabled BSMTP replies: disabled Accounting: enabled Lenient about gatewaying mail: yes Primary mailer username: MAILER MCP> queue show/full Entry: 2, Origin: [Jnet] <@iscs.nus.sg:MAILER@NUSVM.BITNET> Status: IN-PROGRESS, size: 0 bytes Created: 30-DEC-1994 12:35:22.41, expires 29-JAN-1995 12:35:22.41 Last modified 30-DEC-1994 12:35:22.41 Recipient #1: ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 18:25:24 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: elcan@philtr.phys.lsu.edu (philip elcan) Subject: Entries not deleted from queue Date: 8 Jan 1995 00:10:55 GMT Message-ID: <3enaif$2km9@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I have a problem with queue entries staying in the queue after supposedly being purged. Right now I have 10636 files in my queue for a total of 63030 blocks dating all the way back to 22-NOV-1994. And I am running the FLQ Manager. The "$ mcp queue show/all" does not list the files that have been "purged," but if I specifically list an entry that I know has been purged, "$ mcp queue show _entry_number_" will display the entry as cancelled. But even when I manaually try to purge the queue, the file remains. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated! Here's what happens when I try to do things manually: +++++++++++++++++++++++++ $ mcp queue show /all Entry# Status Size Source Agent Entry# Status Size ------ ------ ------- ------ ------- ------ ------ ------- 35 INPROG 2123 LOCAL SMTP 37 READY 2123 (waiting until 7-JAN-1995 23:57:42.14) %MCP-I-QENTRIES, total matching entries: 1 $ mcp queue show 100 Entry# Status Size Source Agent Entry# Status Size ------ ------ ------- ------ ------- ------ ------ ------- 100 CANCLD 990 SMTP %MCP-I-QENTRIES, total matching entries: 1 $ mcp queue purge/log %MCP-I-QNPURGED, 0 entries purged $ mcp queue show/all Entry# Status Size Source Agent Entry# Status Size ------ ------ ------- ------ ------- ------ ------ ------- 35 INPROG 2123 LOCAL SMTP 37 READY 2123 (waiting until 7-JAN-1995 23:57:42.14) %MCP-I-QENTRIES, total matching entries: 1 $ mcp queue show 100 Entry# Status Size Source Agent Entry# Status Size ------ ------ ------- ------ ------- ------ ------ ------- 100 CANCLD 990 SMTP %MCP-I-QENTRIES, total matching entries: 1 $ mcp que stat %MCP-I-QSTATUS, total entries: 28/5002 (0%) Highest entry used: 42 (0%) +++++++++++++++++++++++++ This is what was generated when I defined MX_FLQ_DEBUG on the node running the FLQ Manager and I sent some messages into that node: +++++++++++++++++++++++++ 7-JAN-1995 23:25:15.36 %FLQ_CLEANUP, time to check for cleanups 7-JAN-1995 23:25:30.90 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Checking lock, resnam=FLQ_LOCK_PHILTR_RQC 7-JAN-1995 23:25:30.90 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Someone else is doing the cleanups. Bye. 7-JAN-1995 23:25:31.43 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Checking lock, resnam=FLQ_LOCK_PHILTR_RQC 7-JAN-1995 23:25:31.44 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Someone else is doing the cleanups. Bye. 7-JAN-1995 23:25:33.49 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Checking lock, resnam=FLQ_LOCK_PHILTR_RQC 7-JAN-1995 23:25:33.49 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Someone else is doing the cleanups. Bye. 7-JAN-1995 23:25:37.22 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Checking lock, resnam=FLQ_LOCK_PHILTR_RQC 7-JAN-1995 23:25:37.22 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Someone else is doing the cleanups. Bye. 7-JAN-1995 23:25:37.97 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Checking lock, resnam=FLQ_LOCK_PHILTR_RQC 7-JAN-1995 23:25:37.97 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Someone else is doing the cleanups. Bye. 7-JAN-1995 23:25:38.66 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Checking lock, resnam=FLQ_LOCK_PHILTR_RQC 7-JAN-1995 23:25:38.66 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Someone else is doing the cleanups. Bye. 7-JAN-1995 23:25:40.79 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Checking lock, resnam=FLQ_LOCK_PHILTR_RQC 7-JAN-1995 23:25:40.79 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Someone else is doing the cleanups. Bye. 7-JAN-1995 23:25:45.20 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Checking lock, resnam=FLQ_LOCK_PHILTR_RQC 7-JAN-1995 23:25:45.20 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Someone else is doing the cleanups. Bye. 7-JAN-1995 23:25:45.75 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Checking lock, resnam=FLQ_LOCK_PHILTR_RQC 7-JAN-1995 23:25:45.75 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Someone else is doing the cleanups. Bye. 7-JAN-1995 23:25:49.87 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Checking lock, resnam=FLQ_LOCK_PHILTR_RQC 7-JAN-1995 23:25:49.87 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Someone else is doing the cleanups. Bye. 7-JAN-1995 23:25:52.23 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Checking lock, resnam=FLQ_LOCK_PHILTR_RQC 7-JAN-1995 23:25:52.23 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Someone else is doing the cleanups. Bye. 7-JAN-1995 23:25:55.88 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Checking lock, resnam=FLQ_LOCK_PHILTR_RQC 7-JAN-1995 23:25:55.88 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Someone else is doing the cleanups. Bye. 7-JAN-1995 23:25:56.49 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Checking lock, resnam=FLQ_LOCK_PHILTR_RQC 7-JAN-1995 23:25:56.49 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Someone else is doing the cleanups. Bye. 7-JAN-1995 23:27:15.54 %FLQ_CLEANUP, time to check for cleanups 7-JAN-1995 23:29:15.67 %FLQ_CLEANUP, time to check for cleanups +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Philip Elcan elcan@philtr.phys.lsu.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 20:46:28 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 20:46:05 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098A1F8.283EEC65.13@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Entries not deleted from queue elcan@philtr.phys.lsu.edu (philip elcan) writes: > >I have a problem with queue entries staying in the queue after supposedly >being purged. >Right now I have 10636 files in my queue for a total of 63030 blocks dating all >the way back to 22-NOV-1994. I don't know how it could have gotten so hosed, but it sounds like your queue is really empty. I'd say you should do an MCP QUEUE SYNCH, see if the queue is still empty, then delete the old files by hand and see if the problem recurs.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 06:57:59 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 07:56:09 EST From: Spencer Yost Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098A31E.EDEE8D40.25@ledger.co.forsyth.nc.us> Subject: RE: Entries not deleted from queue >> >>I have a problem with queue entries staying in the queue after supposedly >>being purged. >>Right now I have 10636 files in my queue for a total of 63030 blocks dating all >>the way back to 22-NOV-1994. > >I don't know how it could have gotten so hosed, but it sounds like >your queue is really empty. I'd say you should do an MCP QUEUE SYNCH, >see if the queue is still empty, then delete the old files by hand and >see if the problem recurs.... > >Hunter >------ I had the same problem, and a sync seemed to work at first because a show/all indicated the offending entry had vanished but it really hadn't (or I missed it). The "ghost entry" reappeared after a time, how long I can't say because I didn't keep a close eye on it(within a half a day though). My decidely uneducated impression was that as soon as a "real" entry came in and it was assigned the same number, the ghost entry "re-appeared" with it. Also, the ghost entry always was at the top of my queue listing. I waited until there was a quiet period in the mail system, cleaned-up the queue as best I could, did a purge, then a compress and then a sync with the /reset qualifier. This took care of the problem. What I found interesting was that MX reused the number of the ghost entry, so you have have two entries with the same number. I don't know if that was the case at your site. Believe it or not, the queue number of the ghost entry was "13" )-: (insert "Pyscho" music here) Good luck, +================================+====================================+ | Spencer William Yost | Mis Department | | Vax/VMS Systems Manager | Forsyth County Government | | Yost@ledger.co.forsyth.nc.us | 200 N. Main St Room 603 | | | Hall Of Justice | | | Winston-Salem NC 27101 | +=====================================================================+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 08:41:20 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 08:41:00 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098A325.31BAA599.35@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Entries not deleted from queue Spencer Yost writes: > >What I found interesting was that MX reused the number of the ghost entry, >so you have have two entries with the same number. I don't know if that >was the case at your site. Believe it or not, the queue number of the >ghost entry was "13" )-: (insert "Pyscho" music here) > 8-) This isn't really two entries with the same number, but rather two entries that point back to the same entry number. This is another V4.x bug I've seen a few times, but have yet to pin down. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 21:52:43 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 22:34:07 EST From: Michael McIntyre Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0098A462.BEA73880.23905@mcinc.com> Subject: add, subscribe bug (V3.3) Hi, I just found this minor bug in V3.3. I don't have v4.1 installed to check it out in the latest release. I sent the following message to cor-support-request@mcinc.com: > add carol@mcinc.com > add turnip@mcinc.com > subscribe > review MX Responding with the following message: > > Review of mailing list COR-SUPPORT > >Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 22:23:00 EST >Errors-To: Postmaster@mcinc.com >Warnings-To: <> >From: MX mailing list processor >To: Michael McIntyre > >List Name: COR-SUPPORT > Owner: "MSM@MCINC.COM" > Archive: COR-SUPPORT > Errors-to: MSM@MCINC.COM > Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RWED,WORLD:W) > >Subscribers: > > carol@MCINC.COM > turnip@MCINC.COM > "turnip@mcinc.com" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | should read "Michael McIntyre" Can someone check this out in V4.1? I know I should upgrade, but I have low volume and HEY! It works! -mike 8^) -- Michael McIntyre | McIntyre Consulting, Inc. | Tel: 508-371-1935 msm@mcinc.com | 336 Baker Ave.; Concord,MA 01742 | Fax: 508-369-6693 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 16:25:51 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: dongray@genrad.co.uk (Derek Dongray) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Routing from ALL-IN-1 to UUCP via MX? Message-ID: <1995Jan11.153005.2@genrad.co.uk> Date: 11 Jan 95 15:30:05 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I feel that this is a wheel that must have been reinvented several times. We have a gateway machine running DECUS UUCP 2.0, MX 4.1, UCX 3.1, MR 3.3 and VMS 6.1. We also have another machine running ALL-IN-1 3.0, MX 4.1, UCX 3.1, MR 3.3 and VMS 5.5-2. I have configured things so that users can just mail to MX%"user@site" from VMSmail and it all gets routed through. This works fine, except that I would like to be able to 'hide' the machine names (cd4000.genrad.co.uk); this however is not a major problem. The major problem is mail from ALL-IN-1. When users send, for example, to MX%"user@site"@MRGATE, it produces a really nasty address like.. "CD4000::MRGATE::\"A1::DONGRAY\""@cd4000.genrad.co.uk Most sites cannot handle this. I have tried Matt's NAME_CONVERSION, which translates it into dongray%a1.cd4000.mrgate@cdvs50.genrad.co.uk but it seems that many sites screw up the percent hacking and end up trying to reply to , with predictable lack of success. I've hacking the example ADDRESS_REWRITER, but it seems that this doesn't get called for 'remote' addresses being routed from SMTP to UUCP. What I'd like is to have mail from both VMSmail and ALL-IN-1 users go out as apparently from... derek.dongray@genrad.co.uk irrespective of which of our own nodes it came from and then use some mechanism (I currently use mail forwarding on the gateway) to route incoming mail correctly back to their normal mail location. I'm sure I can't be the first site to have this sort of configuration, so could someone point me at the code to do it most easily. Or do I have to reinvent another eccentric pentagonal wheel? :-) TIA. Derek. -- Derek Dongray, Systems Manager, GenRad Ltd., Cheshire, UK. E-mail : dongray@genrad.com or Derek.Dongray@GenRad.co.uk PSS : 234261600119::Dongray CompuServe : 70374,2745 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 16:44:05 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: hfraser@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Hugh Fraser) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Recovering messages lost in compress Message-ID: <1995Jan11.173935.18694@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 17:39:35 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU The MX queues on our machine became corrupted, similar to the problem recently dicussed here. The MX compress and sync commands have restored the queues to an intact state, but I've got 2400 messages in the [.OLD_n] directories that I'd like to re-insert in the queue. Short of browsing the MX code and creating something on my own, is there a simple way to recover these messages? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 00:46:54 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: mandrews@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: LIB-E-KEYNOTFOU, key not found in tree Date: 12 Jan 1995 01:18:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3f2hj2$1r2@fragile.termfrost.org> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Ack! I just did a MAILQUEUE and found about 500 messages with the above error on them. All of the outbound SMTP ones, in fact, are stuck with this. This just started happening around 6pm tonight as far as I can tell, and for no apparent reason. It isn't affecting outbound Jnet or inbound anything. The only thing I've changed in my config lately is to install Netlib 2.0, but I did that several days ago and the problem didn't show up until just now. I did a queue compress in case the key & tree it's complaining about were the queue index, but that didn't help. Rebooting the VAX didn't help either. Any ideas? -- -- Mike Andrews -=- mandrews@wittenberg.edu -=- root@fragile.termfrost.org -- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 04:32:17 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 10:29:42 GMT From: "Andy Harper, KCL Systems Manager" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: udaa055@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk Message-ID: <0098A58F.E06D31C6.64@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk> Subject: RE: LIB-E-KEYNOTFOU, key not found in tree Mike Andrews writes: >Ack! I just did a MAILQUEUE and found about 500 messages with the above error >on them. All of the outbound SMTP ones, in fact, are stuck with this. This >just started happening around 6pm tonight as far as I can tell, and for no >apparent reason. It isn't affecting outbound Jnet or inbound anything. >The only thing I've changed in my config lately is to install Netlib 2.0, >but I did that several days ago and the problem didn't show up until just now. The clue is netlib 2.0. The version just released has some bugfs in, at least, the ucx interface. I hit the same problem with MGFTP. Matt has a fixed version available, which solves the problem, but I leave it to him to announce it if he wants. Regards, Andy Harper Kings College London ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 10:22:03 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: Rocky Giannini Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <199501121621.LAA02806@paradiso.umuc.edu> Subject: Internet host name change and MX? To: mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 11:21:49 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, In the near future our domain name will be changing, and at the same time we want to change our VAX machine's Internet host name. What does this involve as far as MX is concerned? We know that the variables MX_NODE_NAME and MX_VMSMAIL_LOCALHOST need to be changed. Do we need to rerun MXCONFIG, or is it safe to just edit MX_LOGICALS.DAT. Is there anything else we need to change? Many thanks in advance! -- Rocky Giannini UMUC Unix and VMS Systems ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 10:32:26 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 10:32:06 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098A590.361FC3C7.13@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Internet host name change and MX? Rocky Giannini writes: > >Hi, > >In the near future our domain name will be changing, and at the same time >we want to change our VAX machine's Internet host name. What does this >involve as far as MX is concerned? > >We know that the variables MX_NODE_NAME and MX_VMSMAIL_LOCALHOST need to >be changed. Do we need to rerun MXCONFIG, or is it safe to just edit >MX_LOGICALS.DAT. Is there anything else we need to change? > You need to add the new name(s) in as LOCAL PATHs in MCP as well. Rerunning MXCONFIG is one way to do all of that.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 11:04:23 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 11:02:54 CST From: hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098A594.83DEE8E6.11@uwwvax.uww.edu> Subject: RE: Internet host name change and MX? => In the near future our domain name will be changing, and at the same time => we want to change our VAX machine's Internet host name. What does this => involve as far as MX is concerned? => => We know that the variables MX_NODE_NAME and MX_VMSMAIL_LOCALHOST need to => be changed. Do we need to rerun MXCONFIG, or is it safe to just edit => MX_LOGICALS.DAT. Is there anything else we need to change? Just did the same thing. All I did was edit mx_logicals.dat. It is working. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 13:15:03 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 14:09:59 EST From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: rocky@paradiso.umuc.edu, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0098A5AE.A64D5C40.879@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Internet host name change and MX? > In the near future our domain name will be changing, and at the same time > we want to change our VAX machine's Internet host name. What does this > involve as far as MX is concerned? > > We know that the variables MX_NODE_NAME and MX_VMSMAIL_LOCALHOST need to > be changed. Do we need to rerun MXCONFIG, or is it safe to just edit > MX_LOGICALS.DAT. Is there anything else we need to change? You didn't say what IP transport you run, but using OpenVMS/CMU/TEK TCP/IP as an example, you would also have to edit IP_STARTUP.COM. MX uses the INTERNET_HOST_NAME logical that's defined there, and which is easy to overlook. - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 05:02:53 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 11:02:34 GMT From: rourke_j@actfs.co.uk Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098A65D.A2502366.13@actfs.co.uk> Subject: Problem with VMS Mail forwarding addresses Hi, I am having a problem with the way in which VMS Mail forwarding addresses are handled by MX. If I use MAIL> SET FORWARD/USER=JOHN.DOE "MX%""DOE_J@NODE""" when the mail is delivered to NODE the From: address is JOHN.DOE@DOMAIN rather than the 'real' sender of the mail. If the forwarding address is set as "MX%""'NODE::DOE_J'""" this problem does not occur. Any ideas? John Rourke ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:17:38 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 07:44:39 EDT From: "Michael H. Spence, Eastman Chemical" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098A966.A6001000.22@stc150.kpt.emn.com> Subject: MX-File Server In one of the classes I am taking this semester, the instructor has a number of text files (header files, c++ source files, etc.) that will be used as part of the course. These files are now located on a Novell server that is only accessible from a campus location. What I would like to do is put the files up so that they can be requested via e-mail. The directory structure on the file server looks something like this: i:\cs4957\arrays\array1.cpp .... \array2.cpp i:\cs4957\classes\beer.cpp .... \beer.h .... \queue.cpp It is organized by class topic and then all files related to that topic. The traditional "package" scheme of the MX-File server doesn't look like it would handle this very well. Is there a way I can keep the file names the same without having to rename the files. For example, create a subdirectory [.arrays] and rename array1.cpp to arrays.array1_cpp and array2.cpp to arrays.array2_cpp Thanks for any suggestions... ========================================================================== Michael H. Spence (mspence@emn.com) | Clarke's law: Computing & Telecommunication Services | Any sufficiently advanced Eastman Chemical Company | technology is indistinguishable Kingsport, TN USA | from magic. ========================================================================== ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 10:20:09 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 11:17:27 EDT From: edgecombe@cloud.ccrs.emr.ca Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-list@wku.edu CC: edgecombe@cloud.ccrs.emr.ca Message-ID: <0098AA4D.8AB2D840.9@cloud.ccrs.emr.ca> Subject: MX Local crash, status %X1C08804C Here is a case of MX Local crashing, and not delivering messages. Investigating the accounting files showed the final status was %X1C08804C; and I could not figure out what that message meant. However, I did start up local debugging, and examining the debug log files after the MX Local crashed led to queue entry 4 as the problem. Cancelling that entry and restarting MX passed everything through. Entry 4 consisted only of 4.LOCAL_INFO (and no other files) -- I have appended that file (as a VMS_SHARE entry, to get the binary information through). Could Hunter or someone check to see if the crash could be avoided in future versions of MX? Thanks --john John Edgecombe Canada Centre for Remote Sensing alternate Ottawa, Ontario, Canada "People who have simple pleasures should be admired ... and then executed." Garfield $! ------------------ CUT HERE ----------------------- $ v='f$verify(f$trnlnm("SHARE_UNPACK_VERIFY"))' $! $! This archive created: $! Name : MX $! By : edgecombe@cloud.ccrs.emr.ca $! Date : 18-JAN-1995 11:07:03.79 $! Using: VMS_SHARE 8.5-1, (C) 1993 Andy Harper, Kings College London UK $! $! Credit is due to these people for their original ideas: $! James Gray, Michael Bednarek $! $! To unpack this archive: $! Minimum of VMS 4.4 (VAX) / OpenVMS 1.0 (Alpha) is required. $! Remove the headers of the first part, up to `cut here' line. $! Execute file as a command procedure. $! $! The following file(s) will be created after unpacking: $! 1. 4.LOCAL_INFO;1 $! $ set="set" $ set symbol/scope=(nolocal,noglobal) $ f="SYS$SCRATCH:."+f$getjpi("","PID")+";" $ if f$trnlnm("SHARE_UNPACK") .nes. "" then $ - f=f$parse("SHARE_UNPACK_TEMP",f) $ e="write sys$error ""%UNPACK"", " $ w="write sys$output ""%UNPACK"", " $ if .not. f$trnlnm("SHARE_UNPACK_LOG") then $ w = "!" $ if f$getsyi("CPU") .gt. 127 then $ goto start $ ve=f$getsyi("version") $ if ve-f$extract(0,1,ve) .ges. "4.4" then $ goto start $ e "-E-OLDVER, Must run at least VMS 4.4" $ v=f$verify(v) $ exit 44 $unpack:subroutine!P1=file,P2=chksum,P3=attrib,P4=size,P5=fileno,P6=fileto tal $ if f$parse(P1) .nes. "" then $ goto dirok $ dn=f$parse(P1,,,"DIRECTORY") $ w "-I-CREDIR, Creating directory ''dn'" $ create/dir 'dn' $ if $status then $ goto dirok $ e "-E-CREDIRFAIL, Unable to create ''dn' File skipped" $ delete 'f'* $ exit $dirok: $ x=f$search(P1) $ if x .eqs. "" then $ goto file_absent $ e "-W-EXISTS, File ''P1' exists. Skipped" $ delete 'f'* $ exit $file_absent: $ w "-I-UNPACK, Unpacking ", P5, " of ", P6, " - ", P1, " - ", P4, " Blocks" $ n=P1 $ if P3 .nes. "" then $ n=f $ if .not. f$verify() then $ define/user sys$output nl: $ EDIT/TPU/NOSEC/NODIS/COM=SYS$INPUT/NOJOURNAL 'f'/OUT='n' PROCEDURE GetHex(s,p)LOCAL x1,x2;x1:=INDEX(t,SUBSTR(s,p,1))-1;x2:=INDEX(t, SUBSTR(s,p+1,1))-1;RETURN 16*x1+x2;ENDPROCEDURE;PROCEDURE SkipPartsep LOCAL m; LOOP m:=MARK(NONE);EXITIF m=END_OF(CURRENT_BUFFER);DELETE(m);EXITIF INDEX( ERASE_LINE,"-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+")=1;ENDLOOP;ENDPROCEDURE; PROCEDURE ProcessLine LOCAL c,s,l,b,n,p;s := ERASE_LINE;c := SUBSTR(s,1,1);s := s-c;IF c = "X" THEN SPLIT_LINE; ENDIF;MOVE_HORIZONTAL(-1);l := LENGTH(s);p := 1;LOOP EXITIF p > l;c := SUBSTR(s,p,1);p := p+1;CASE c FROM ' ' TO '`' ['`'] : COPY_TEXT(ASCII(GetHex(s,p))); p:=p+2;[' ']: p:=p+1;[INRANGE,OUTRANGE] : COPY_TEXT(c);ENDCASE;ENDLOOP;ENDPROCEDURE;PROCEDURE Decode(b)LOCAL m; POSITION(BEGINNING_OF(b));LOOP m:=MARK(NONE);EXITIF m=END_OF(b);DELETE(m); IF INDEX(CURRENT_LINE,"+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-")=1 THEN SkipPartSep;ELSE ProcessLine; MOVE_HORIZONTAL(1);ENDIF;ENDLOOP;ENDPROCEDURE;SET(FACILITY_NAME,"UNPACK"); SET( SUCCESS,OFF);SET(INFORMATIONAL,OFF);t:="0123456789ABCDEF";f:=GET_INFO( COMMAND_LINE,"file_name");o:=CREATE_BUFFER(f,f);Decode(o);WRITE_FILE(o, GET_INFO(COMMAND_LINE,"output_file"));QUIT; $ if p3 .eqs. "" then $ goto dl $ open/write fdl &f $ write fdl "RECORD" $ write fdl P3 $ close fdl $ w "-I-CONVRFM, Converting record format to ", P3 $ convert/fdl='f' 'f'-1 'f' $ fa=f$getdvi(f$parse(f),"ALLDEVNAM") $ Pa=f$getdvi(f$parse(P1),"ALLDEVNAM") $ if fa .eqs. Pa then $ rename &f 'f$parse(P1)' $ if fa .nes. Pa then $ copy &f 'f$parse(P1)' $dl: delete 'f'* $ checksum 'P1' $ if checksum$checksum .nes. 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Message-ID: <12JAN199523283394@axcrnc.cern.ch> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 22:28:00 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hello! My node is having a hard time trying to deliver a specific message, giving %SYSTEM-F-TIMEOUT, device timeout errors. I enabled the SMTP debuging code and got the following log file: 12-JAN-1995 23:37:27.34 Processing queue entry number 3 on node SRATHV 12-JAN-1995 23:37:27.63 Recipient: , route=edp.ncmr.ariadne-t.gr 12-JAN-1995 23:37:27.64 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name edp.ncmr.ariadne-t.gr 12-JAN-1995 23:37:27.66 SMTP_SEND: DSN_MXLOOK status is 00000001 12-JAN-1995 23:37:27.71 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with edp.ncmr.ariadne-t.gr. [143.233.5.95] 12-JAN-1995 23:37:58.56 -- failed, status=0000022C 12-JAN-1995 23:37:58.56 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with edp.ncmr.ariadne-t.gr. [143.233.51.1] 12-JAN-1995 23:38:29.06 -- failed, status=0000022C 12-JAN-1995 23:38:29.06 SMTP_SEND: Failed, sts=0000022C 12-JAN-1995 23:38:29.07 SMTP send failed, sts=0C27804A, sts2=0000022C 12-JAN-1995 23:38:29.07 Recipient status=0C27804A for 12-JAN-1995 23:38:29.67 1 rcpts need retry, next try 13-JAN-1995 00:08:29.67 12-JAN-1995 23:38:29.71 *** End of processing pass *** Status code %x22C translates to %SYSTEM-F-TIMEOUT. What does the %x0C27804A status code means? How can I translate it into text? I am running VAX/VMS 5.3-1, MX V4.1 and CMU-IP V6.6-5A. (It does not seem to be a CMU-IP error message). Many thanks, Panayotis e-mail: kassapidis@vxcern.cern.ch kassapidis@thission.iisr.noa.ariadne-t.gr ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 05:14:10 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: kevin@ins.infonet.net (Kevin Houle) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Upgrading AXP OpenVMS 1.5 -> OpenVMS 6.1 Date: 13 Jan 1995 17:58:37 GMT Message-ID: <3f6f0d$bg2@insosf1.infonet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I realize this is a FAQ (is there a FAQ?), but I want to cover all of my bases. Are there re-install / re-licensing issues with Multinet 3.3 Rev C or MX 1.4 AXP when OpenVMS is upgraded from V1.5 to V6.1? Kevin ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 05:14:54 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: sharp@noao.edu (Nigel Sharp) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: DECnet connections into MX system Date: 14 Jan 1995 15:52:43 GMT Message-ID: <3f8s0b$hob@noao.edu> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I need to ask this again: I have applied the patch which allows use of "user@node" instead of MX%"user@node", and it works. However, it does NOT work for incoming DECnet connections, i.e. mail to NODE::"user@node" is rejected with "no such user user@node". It even fails if I use that specification from NODE itself - I must have been wrong that when you specify your own node it strips it and uses just the address. Is there ANY way to make this work, did I do something wrong when I installed the patch, does it require a different patch, can anyone help ? MX 4.1, VMS 5.5-2, Multinet 3.1 or CMUIP 6.6-5A. Nigel Sharp, National Optical Astronomy Observatories NOAO::NSHARP P.O. Box 26732, Tucson, AZ 85726 (602--325-9273) nsharp@noao.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 05:14:59 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: What this status code means? Date: 14 Jan 1995 21:24:34 GMT Message-ID: <3f9fei$rd7@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <12JAN199523283394@axcrnc.cern.ch>, kassapidis@axcrnc.cern.ch (Kassapidis Panayotis, CERN) writes: =12-JAN-1995 23:38:29.07 SMTP send failed, sts=0C27804A, sts2=0000022C =12-JAN-1995 23:38:29.07 Recipient status=0C27804A for =12-JAN-1995 23:38:29.67 1 rcpts need retry, next try 13-JAN-1995 00:08:29.67 =12-JAN-1995 23:38:29.71 *** End of processing pass *** = = Status code %x22C translates to %SYSTEM-F-TIMEOUT. What does the =%x0C27804A status code means? How can I translate it into text? =I am running VAX/VMS 5.3-1, MX V4.1 and CMU-IP V6.6-5A. (It does not =seem to be a CMU-IP error message). Nope. It's an MX message: $ SET MESSAGE MX_EXE:MX_MSG $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$MESSAGE(%X0C27804A) %MX-E-NOCOMPLETE, message transmission could not be completed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 05:15:54 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: SYSTEM@UHAVAX.HARTFORD.EDU (SYSTEM MANAGER) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Anyone using MX041 with UCX032 on VMS5.5-2? Date: 17 Jan 1995 15:35:39 GMT Message-ID: <3fgo4b$e9r@ipgate.hartford.edu> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Has anyone installed upgraded to UCX 3.2 using MX 4.1 on VAX/VMS 5.5-2? When we went to UCX 3.1, one of our other public-domain products (a newsreader) failed. I'm curious if UCX 3.2 will make it work again, but don't want to risk MX! Any gory details would be appreciated. Also, we are running Jnet 3.6 over IP, so would appreciate comments on that too! Thanks! Dave Kelley University of Hartford Computer Services ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 05:16:01 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: madison@tgv.com (Matt Madison) Subject: Re: NETLIB20 Date: 15 Jan 1995 22:30:02 GMT Message-ID: <3fc7la$qq7@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <962_9501152147@seuk.com>, peter.burnett@seuk.com (Peter Burnett) writes: & & Grabbed a copy of NETLIB20.ZIP and installed it. At that point, MX fell over & with 'Insuffient Dynamic Memory" errors when inspecting the smtp queue status, ie; "MCP SHOW QUEUE". Re-installed v1.7 out of MGFTP 2.1-2 and all went back to being ok. System is :- MicroVax 3100/10, VMS 5.5-2. Anyone else had some undue errors.. comments anyone. I did up the NPAGEDYN by 200,000 but that had zero effect. There were some compatibility problems with NETLIB V2.0 and both UCX and CMU TCP/IP. These have been fixed, and NETLIB V2.0A is now available in (in the usual places). -Matt -- Matthew Madison | madison@tgv.com | +1 408 457 5390 TGV, Inc. | 101 Cooper Street | Santa Cruz, CA 95060 USA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 05:16:12 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: peter.burnett@seuk.com (Peter Burnett) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: NETLIB20 Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 20:23:12 +0000 Message-ID: <962_9501152147@seuk.com> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Grabbed a copy of NETLIB20.ZIP and installed it. At that point, MX fell over with 'Insuffient Dynamic Memory" errors when inspecting the smtp queue status, ie; "MCP SHOW QUEUE". Re-installed v1.7 out of MGFTP 2.1-2 and all went back to being ok. System is :- MicroVax 3100/10, VMS 5.5-2. Anyone else had some undue errors.. comments anyone. I did up the NPAGEDYN by 200,000 but that had zero effect. Peter [ Home: system@vax1.seuk.com // Work: pdb@pds2.compd.com ] -- Peter Burnett Tel: 44-831-838714 SSSSS EEEEE U U K K 10 Parsons Close Fax: 44-1424-853364 S E U U K K St. Leonards On Sea Data: 44-1424-853361 SSSSS EEEE U U KKK East Sussex S E U U K K UK TN38 9QT system@vax1.seuk.com SSSSS EEEEE UUUU K K ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 05:16:20 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: desroches@willow.uml.edu (Dick Desroches, ACC Systems Manager) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: SMTP server crashes, status=10000094 Date: 17 Jan 95 18:00:24 -0500 Message-ID: <1995Jan17.180024.1@willow.uml.edu> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I have been having a problem with the SMTP Server crashing as soon as you start it with a status of 10000094. Within a few minutes SMTP dies with a status of 1000000C. Is this that old problem of an incoming message having a header that is too long - I think it is but I don't recall. If I am right then I just have to find the offending message and kill it or request that the sender stop sending - right? Is there a fix to this yet (i.e. has 4.2 been released)? Thanks, Dick Desroches ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 05:16:28 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: hlaufman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harry B Laufman) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: SMTP Server Queue Stops (perhaps never starts)? Date: 17 Jan 1995 16:26:53 GMT Message-ID: <3fgr4d$vt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hello, Our SMTP server queue is always stopped after a reboot. SHOW QUEUE shows it stopped no matter how soon I look after a reboot. We run MX 3.3 and Multinet 3.2 on VMS 5.4.3. I have searched for "INIT/QUEUE" and so on in the COM files of mx and cannot find a reference. Can anyone offer some guidance where I might look, of what might be going on? I have been starting the queue "by hand" with a simple START /QUEUE SMTP_AGVAXT and everything works fine, until the next reboot. Well actually, its the next reboot OR about 3 weeks, when mail stops, and the queue has apparently gone down. A situation I was told to fix with re-boot. Perhaps these events are related? Thanks, Harry ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 05:17:15 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: SMTP Server Queue Stops (perhaps never starts)? Date: 17 Jan 1995 20:42:13 GMT Message-ID: <3fha35$96a@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <3fgr4d$vt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, hlaufman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harry B Laufman) writes: #Hello, Our SMTP server queue is always stopped after a reboot. SHOW QUEUE #shows it stopped no matter how soon I look after a reboot. We run MX 3.3 and #Multinet 3.2 on VMS 5.4.3. I have searched for "INIT/QUEUE" and so on #in the COM files of mx and cannot find a reference. Unlike MultiNet, MX doesn't use server queues. # Can anyone offer some guidance where I might look, of what might be going #on? # # I have been starting the queue "by hand" with a simple START /QUEUE #SMTP_AGVAXT and everything works fine, until the next reboot. Well actually, #its the next reboot OR about 3 weeks, when mail stops, and the queue has #apparently gone down. A situation I was told to fix with re-boot. #Perhaps these events are related? If you want to run the MX mailer, follow the instructions in the MX Installation Guide on how to disable the MultiNet mailer. Then you can delete MultiNet's SMTP server queues, as MX doesn't use them. -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 08:16:07 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 08:15:59 EST From: Bob Christenson Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098AAFD.5B84D720.1@fcstc1.frco.com> Subject: RE: Anyone using MX041 with UCX032 on VMS5.5-2? writes: } } Has anyone installed upgraded to UCX 3.2 using MX 4.1 on VAX/VMS 5.5-2? } } When we went to UCX 3.1, one of our other public-domain products (a newsreader) } failed. I'm curious if UCX 3.2 will make it work again, but don't want to risk } MX! Any gory details would be appreciated. Also, we are running Jnet 3.6 over } IP, so would appreciate comments on that too! } } Thanks! } Dave Kelley } University of Hartford } Computer Services We are still running 3.1 but have loaded patches up to ECO level 5. There was some problems with 3.1 and it was recommended by Digital to load the latest ECO patches. If you type SHOW VERSION at the UCX> prompt, that should tell you your ECO level. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ // Bob Christenson, Sr. Sys Analyst _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ // Fisher Controls Int., Inc. _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ // R.A. Engel Technical Center _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ // Marshalltown, IA 50158 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ // Voice Phone : (515) 754-3854 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ // FAX Phone : (515) 754-2831 _/ _/. _/ _/. _/_/_/_/_/. // Inet Address: rachri1@fcseng.frco.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 09:41:44 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 16:39:48 +0100 From: "Dr. Richard Glasow, IKP, Univ. Muenster" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: glasow@nwz.uni-muenster.de Message-ID: <0098AB43.BCFFC81B.19@nwz.uni-muenster.de> Subject: RE: SMTP Server Queue Stops (perhaps never starts)? Als Autofahrer kann ich mich freiwillig zur Verfügung stellen, mit Themen usw. sieht es bei mir momentan aus Zeitgtünden etwas düster aus... Richard ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 10:22:02 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:20:32 +0100 From: Juan Altmayer Pizzorno Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: juan@vms.gmd.de Message-ID: <0098AB49.6DEA4BEB.1@vms.gmd.de> Subject: RE: Anyone using MX041 with UCX032 on VMS5.5-2? > writes: >} >} Has anyone installed upgraded to UCX 3.2 using MX 4.1 on VAX/VMS 5.5-2? >} >} When we went to UCX 3.1, one of our other public-domain products (a newsreader) >} failed. I'm curious if UCX 3.2 will make it work again, but don't want to risk >} MX! Any gory details would be appreciated. Also, we are running Jnet 3.6 over >} IP, so would appreciate comments on that too! If the newsreader software you mean is "VMS NEWS 1.25 by Bernd Onasch", it will stay broken with UCX 3.2 :( (Sorry for sending to the MX list, but as you can see on the top I don't know who sent this mail.) .. Juan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 10:39:39 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: SMTP server crashes, status=10000094 Date: 19 Jan 1995 11:10:02 GMT Message-ID: <3flhaa$6dc@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <1995Jan17.180024.1@willow.uml.edu>, desroches@willow.uml.edu (Dick Desroches, ACC Systems Manager) writes: =I have been having a problem with the SMTP Server crashing as soon as you =start it with a status of 10000094. Within a few minutes SMTP dies with a =status of 1000000C. %X94 is: %SYSTEM-F-DUPLNAM, duplicate name The 1 in the high-order nibble just means that, when the image exits, DCL isn't supposed to repeat the error message. What the message means is that you've already got a process called "MX SMTP Server" running under a UIC in the same group. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 11:18:54 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 16:04:38 GMT From: "John Hill, Cavendish Lab, Cambridge Univ. (01223-337243)" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098AB3E.D34D740C.17@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Anyone using MX041 with UCX032 on VMS5.5-2? > writes: >} >} Has anyone installed upgraded to UCX 3.2 using MX 4.1 on VAX/VMS 5.5-2? >} >} When we went to UCX 3.1, one of our other public-domain products (a >newsreader) >} failed. I'm curious if UCX 3.2 will make it work again, but don't want to >}risk >} MX! Any gory details would be appreciated. Also, we are running Jnet 3.6 >}over >} IP, so would appreciate comments on that too! >} >} Thanks! >} Dave Kelley >} University of Hartford >} Computer Services > >We are still running 3.1 but have loaded patches up to ECO level 5. There was >some problems with 3.1 and it was recommended by Digital to load the latest ECO >patches. If you type SHOW VERSION at the UCX> prompt, that should tell you >your ECO level. The latest ECO for UCX V3.1 is 008. UCX V3.2 is "based" on V3.1 ECO05, so users who have installed the latest V3.1 ECO should ensure they install ECO01 for V3.2 (just about available) if they upgrade to V3.2 We are running VMS V6.1, UCX V3.2 and MX V4.1 with no problems I'm aware of. Cheers, John Hill ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 20:13:36 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wild@embl-heidelberg.de (DAVID WILD) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: MX_Local process keeps on dieing Message-ID: <1995Jan19.202538.171679@embl> Date: 19 Jan 95 20:25:38 +0100 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hello, We are running MX 3.3 on an AXP 300/500. The MX_Local process appears to die periodically and has to be restarted. I do not see any error messages in MX_Local.log. Could anyone throw any light on this or tell me how to go about tracing what is wrong? Please respond by e-mail if possible. Many thanks, David Wild ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 20:13:50 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: rsampath@us.oracle.com Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Date: 19 Jan 95 17:14:41 PST Message-ID: <1995Jan19.171441.1@us.oracle.com> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: VMS Mail Utility I am trying to implement a gateway from VMS Mail to my own product so that I could receive messages in my code rather than read them using the Mail utility. I am told that there is an undocumented way of declaring a 'foreign' protocol so that VMS mail invokes an image ABC_MAILSHR.EXE whenever you attempt to send a message to ABC%username. In this image, I am supposed to be able to retrieve the message that VMS mail intends to send. What I need to know in detail is this 'interface' between VMS mail and the image it invokes, in particular, the sequence of calls VMS Mail makes, the way it passes arguments to these calls,etc. Would appreciate if someone could direct me to wherever I could obtain this kind of info. Thanks, Sam ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 03:59:44 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: "PaSZTOR MIKLoS" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: rsampath@us.oracle.com, MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 11:23:36 CET Subject: Re: (Interfacing with VMS Mail) Message-ID: <4ADDDDD7939@aszi.sztaki.hu> Sam, The info you are looking for is the OpenVMS Utility Routines Manual, Chapter 11.14, Mail Utility Routines. I suggest you to have a look at MX's SITE interface. It is much more convenient, and you can do anything both with incoming and outgoing mail. DELIVER is another nice utility to the same purpose. Both MX-SITE and DELIVER allow you to write DCL command procedures and programs as well to do the task. Regards, Miklos ==================================================================== MTA SZTAKI/ASZI Budapest Victor H. u. 18-22 | Phone: (36)-(1)-149-75-32 Institute for Computation and Automation, Hungarian Academy of Sciences ==================================================================== > Subject: VMS Mail Utility > > I am trying to implement a gateway from VMS Mail to my own product so that I > could receive messages in my code rather than read them using the Mail utility. > I am told that there is an undocumented way of declaring a 'foreign' > protocol so that VMS mail invokes an image ABC_MAILSHR.EXE whenever you > attempt to send a message to ABC%username. In this image, I am supposed to be > able to retrieve the message that VMS mail intends to send. What I need > to know in detail is this 'interface' between VMS mail and the image it > invokes, in particular, the sequence of calls VMS Mail makes, the way it > passes arguments to these calls,etc. > > Would appreciate if someone could direct me to wherever I could obtain this > kind of info. > > Thanks, > Sam > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 08:07:13 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 09:00:06 EST From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: uunet!WKUVX1.WKU.EDU!mx-list@esseye.si.com Message-ID: <0098ABCC.AF6AA660.68@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: Anyone using MX041 with UCX032 on VMS5.5-2? John Hill (hill@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk) writes: >The latest ECO for UCX V3.1 is 008. Nope. It's now up to ECO9. I just got ECO9 from Digital yesterday. -- Brian tillman_brian@si.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 09:30:23 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: mh@tkemi.klb.dtu.dk (Michael Hjorth) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: SMTP Server Queue Stops (perhaps never starts)? Date: 20 Jan 1995 11:54:24 GMT Message-ID: <3fo89g$50t@news.uni-c.dk> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Harry B Laufman (hlaufman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote: : Hello, Our SMTP server queue is always stopped after a reboot. SHOW QUEUE : shows it stopped no matter how soon I look after a reboot. We run MX 3.3 and : Multinet 3.2 on VMS 5.4.3. I have searched for "INIT/QUEUE" and so on : in the COM files of mx and cannot find a reference. : Can anyone offer some guidance where I might look, of what might be going : on? : I have been starting the queue "by hand" with a simple START /QUEUE : SMTP_AGVAXT and everything works fine, until the next reboot. Well actually, : its the next reboot OR about 3 weeks, when mail stops, and the queue has : apparently gone down. A situation I was told to fix with re-boot. : Perhaps these events are related? : Thanks, Harry Include the START/QUEUE command in your SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM file. Queues don't start automatically as default. There is a possibility of defining the queue as an autostart queue, but it is not the default. INIT/QUEUE is to be done only once, as all queue definitions then are stored in the queue database. I'm using UCX, but hope this helps anyway :-) Michael. -- +---------------------------------+---------------------+------------------+ | Michael Hjorth | mh@tkemi.klb.dtu.dk | \/ | | Chemistry Department B | | _ o o _ | | Technical University of Denmark | +45 42881777 | - /\ - | | DK-2800 Lyngby | ext. 2026 | \____/ | | Denmark | | /\ | +---------------------------------+---------------------+------------------+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 09:47:23 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:45:44 EST From: smcneilly@fred.bridgew.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098ABDB.70E89D20.71@fred.bridgew.edu> Subject: RE: MX_Local process keeps on dieing David Wild writes: >We are running MX 3.3 on an AXP 300/500. The MX_Local process >appears to die periodically and has to be restarted. I do not >see any error messages in MX_Local.log. Could anyone throw any >light on this or tell me how to go about tracing what is wrong? Two suggestions: Enable debugging by defining the logical name MX_LOCAL_DEBUG. The trace output will be written to MX_LOCAL_LOG.LOG. (See Chapter 8 of the MX Management Guide.) Upgrade to MX 4.1. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@bridgew.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 15:31:41 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: cooper@utsph.sph.uth.tmc.edu Subject: RE: Anyone using MX041 with UCX032 on VMS5.5-2? Date: 20 Jan 1995 16:50:40 GMT Message-ID: <3fopl0$qjs@oac4.hsc.uth.tmc.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0098AAFD.5B84D720.1@fcstc1.frco.com>, Bob Christenson writes: > writes: >} >} Has anyone installed upgraded to UCX 3.2 using MX 4.1 on VAX/VMS 5.5-2? >} >} When we went to UCX 3.1, one of our other public-domain products (a newsreader) >} failed. I'm curious if UCX 3.2 will make it work again, but don't want to risk >} MX! Any gory details would be appreciated. Also, we are running Jnet 3.6 over >} IP, so would appreciate comments on that too! >} >} Thanks! >} Dave Kelley >} University of Hartford >} Computer Services > I am running MX 4.1 On an AXP 7610 with VMS 6.1 and haven't seen any problems to speak of (using UCX Version 3.2) charlie ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 09:19:26 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: ccdarg@zippy.dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: RE: Anyone using MX041 with UCX032 on VMS5.5-2? Message-ID: <1995Jan21.151250.10240@zippy.dct.ac.uk> Date: 21 Jan 95 15:12:50 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0098AB3E.D34D740C.17@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk>, "John Hill, Cavendish Lab, Cambridge Univ. (01223-337243)" writes: >>We are still running 3.1 but have loaded patches up to ECO level 5. There was >>some problems with 3.1 and it was recommended by Digital to load the latest ECO >>patches. If you type SHOW VERSION at the UCX> prompt, that should tell you >>your ECO level. > > The latest ECO for UCX V3.1 is 008. UCX V3.2 is "based" on V3.1 ECO05, so users Believe it or not I've just noticed that we've reached ECO 9... [UCX-VMS V3.1/RN] Release Notes ECO 9 vs ECO 8 Differences (420 lines) Last Technical Review: 16-JAN-1995 Size: 434 lines > We are running VMS V6.1, UCX V3.2 and MX V4.1 with no problems I'm aware of. Certainly MX runs fine with UCX 3.2 unpatched as well. A few other things don't though... -- Alan Greig Janet: A.Greig@uk.ac.dct University of Abertay Dundee Internet: A.Greig@dct.ac.uk Tel: (0382) 308810 Int +44 382 308810 ** Never underestimate the power of human stupidity ** ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 05:53:12 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 09:53:59 GMT From: "John Hill, Cavendish Lab, Cambridge Univ. (01223-337243)" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098AD66.8B057890.2@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Anyone using MX041 with UCX032 on VMS5.5-2? >Believe it or not I've just noticed that we've reached ECO 9... > >[UCX-VMS V3.1/RN] Release Notes ECO 9 vs ECO 8 Differences (420 lines) >Last Technical Review: 16-JAN-1995 Size: 434 lines > I stand corrected :-) >> We are running VMS V6.1, UCX V3.2 and MX V4.1 with no problems I'm aware of. > >Certainly MX runs fine with UCX 3.2 unpatched as well. A few other things >don't though... Which is why I've just installed ECO01 for UCX V3.2. Regards, John Hill ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 20:54:24 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 19:52:23 MST From: Mark Tarka Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0098ADBA.23B35FA0.3@earth.oscs.montana.edu> Subject: .XX domains I'm stretching the limits of the topics discussed on this list, but, is there a source that will help me decipher the domain codes appearing in the address fields (.dk = Denmark, .ca = Canada, etc.)? In particular, what is ".su". (My platform's "whois" doesn't help.) Mark ichjsmt@earth.oscs.montana.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 22:16:16 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: .XX domains Date: 23 Jan 1995 04:02:09 GMT Message-ID: <3fv9o4$rhi@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0098ADBA.23B35FA0.3@earth.oscs.montana.edu>, Mark Tarka writes: #I'm stretching the limits of the topics discussed on this list, but, #is there a source that will help me decipher the domain codes #appearing in the address fields (.dk = Denmark, .ca = Canada, etc.)? #In particular, what is ".su". (My platform's "whois" doesn't help.) $ MULTINET WHOIS SU Soviet Union (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) top-level domain (SU1-DOM) SU Su, Chiang-Chin (CS303) chiang@SPLUS.COM (408) 773-9681x32 ext. 39 Su, Eric (ES86) root@AMEX.COM (212) 306-1222 Su, I-lu (IS48) ilu@ENG.TELCO.COM (617) 551-0300 x2489 Su, Jean-Baptiste (JS275) jbsu@ATTMAIL.COM postmaster@CTSI.COM +33 1 47 34 15 90 Su, Shuang-Ching (SS2176) scsu@UECI.COM 215-422-3998 Su, Tom (TS157) kci@NETCOM.COM (408) 735-7723 Su, Wen-King (WS42) wen-king@MYRI.COM (818)821-5555 Su, Zaw-Sing (ZSU) zsu@NISC.SRI.COM (415) 859-4576 Check out RFC1394, which seemed to have a decent list of two-character country codes, although isn't complete. -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 08:34:40 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 09:32:55 EST From: smcneilly@fred.bridgew.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098AE2C.C47ADCC0.48@fred.bridgew.edu> Subject: RE: .XX domains >From: Mark Tarka >Subject: .XX domains Mark writes: >I'm stretching the limits of the topics discussed on this list, but, >is there a source that will help me decipher the domain codes >appearing in the address fields (.dk = Denmark, .ca = Canada, etc.)? >In particular, what is ".su". (My platform's "whois" doesn't help.) I got this information from a book called "DNS and BIND", by Paul Albitz and Cricket Liu, published by O'Reilly & Associates. Appendix C has a table of top-level domains. SU is USSR. The book also mentions that "domain names followed an existing international standard called ISO 3166. ISO 3166 establishes official two-letter abbreviations for for every country in the world." "(Except for Great Britain. According to ISO 3166 and Internet tradition, Great Britain's top-level domain should be gb. Instead Great Britain and Northern Ireland use the top-level domain uk. They drive on the wrong side of the road, too.)" The book was published in 1993. I don't know where to get a current list. Perhaps the NIC might help: hostmaster@nic.ddn.mil -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@bridgew.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 10:10:48 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 16:02:41 GMT From: "John Hill, Cavendish Lab, Cambridge Univ. (01223-337243)" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098AE63.3799DEA3.7@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> Subject: RE: .XX domains > ...(Except for Great Britain. >According to ISO 3166 and Internet tradition, Great Britain's top-level >domain should be gb. Instead Great Britain and Northern Ireland use the >top-level domain uk.... You mean like the U.S.A. should use the top-level domain "us"??!! :-) You wouldn't believe the arguments that have gone on, over gb vs. uk as the top-level domain. Our mistake was to set up a naming scheme 10 years ago when it was somewhat arbitrary what to choose. Regards, John Hill ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 16:10:46 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: SMTP Server Queue Stops (perhaps never starts)? Date: 23 Jan 1995 21:53:22 GMT Message-ID: <3g18gi$t2n@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <3fo89g$50t@news.uni-c.dk>, mh@tkemi.klb.dtu.dk (Michael Hjorth) writes: =Harry B Laufman (hlaufman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote: =: Hello, Our SMTP server queue is always stopped after a reboot. SHOW QUEUE =: shows it stopped no matter how soon I look after a reboot. We run MX 3.3 and =: Multinet 3.2 on VMS 5.4.3. I have searched for "INIT/QUEUE" and so on =: in the COM files of mx and cannot find a reference. = =: Can anyone offer some guidance where I might look, of what might be going =: on? = =: I have been starting the queue "by hand" with a simple START /QUEUE =: SMTP_AGVAXT and everything works fine, until the next reboot. Well actually, =: its the next reboot OR about 3 weeks, when mail stops, and the queue has =: apparently gone down. A situation I was told to fix with re-boot. =: Perhaps these events are related? = =: Thanks, Harry = =Include the START/QUEUE command in your SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM file. =Queues don't start automatically as default. There is a possibility =of defining the queue as an autostart queue, but it is not the =default. = =INIT/QUEUE is to be done only once, as all queue definitions then are =stored in the queue database. = =I'm using UCX, but hope this helps anyway :-) Er, MX doesn't *USE* any queues. That's why he could find nothing in the MX procedures. It sounds as if he's trying to use MX and Multinet's SMTP package simultaneously. Not a good idea. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 16:21:11 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: .XX domains Date: 23 Jan 1995 21:54:40 GMT Message-ID: <3g18j0$t2n@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0098ADBA.23B35FA0.3@earth.oscs.montana.edu>, Mark Tarka writes: =I'm stretching the limits of the topics discussed on this list, but, =is there a source that will help me decipher the domain codes =appearing in the address fields (.dk = Denmark, .ca = Canada, etc.)? =In particular, what is ".su". (My platform's "whois" doesn't help.) A list of those is (or was) posted to NEWS.LISTS occasionally. I think .su might be "Soviet Union." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 16:48:06 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: RE: .XX domains Date: 23 Jan 1995 22:32:52 GMT Message-ID: <3g1aqk$61m@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0098AE63.3799DEA3.7@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk>, "John Hill, Cavendish Lab, Cambridge Univ. (01223-337243)" writes: #> ...(Except for Great Britain. #>According to ISO 3166 and Internet tradition, Great Britain's top-level #>domain should be gb. Instead Great Britain and Northern Ireland use the #>top-level domain uk.... # #You mean like the U.S.A. should use the top-level domain "us"??!! :-) There is a .US domain -- however, historical reasons explain why a lot of domains aren't .US, and large multinational companies (Cisco, Ford, DEC, etc.) probably 'shouldn't' have geographically-restrictive domain names. ... And who's to say that a new, currently-local company, might not turn into next year's multinational, and want/need/desire a non-geographically- restrictive domain name. There's a lot of disagreements about .US domains. -d (Traceroute to Asylum.SF.CA.US for a good example. This system used to be located near San Francisco, CA. The system is on the east coast now.] #You wouldn't believe the arguments that have gone on, over gb vs. uk as the #top-level domain. Our mistake was to set up a naming scheme 10 years ago when #it was somewhat arbitrary what to choose. -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 18:15:41 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <9501240016.AA29522@getafix.oasis.icl.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 95 00:16:27 GMT From: j.l.jones.bra0505@oasis.icl.co.uk Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: .XX domains To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Dan Wing says : => In article <0098AE63.3799DEA3.7@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk>, "John Hill, Cavendish Lab, => #> ...(Except for Great Britain. => #>According to ISO 3166 and Internet tradition, Great Britain's top-level => #>domain should be gb. Instead Great Britain and Northern Ireland use the => #>top-level domain uk.... => # => #You mean like the U.S.A. should use the top-level domain "us"??!! :-) => => There is a .US domain -- however, historical reasons explain why a lotof => domains aren't .US, and large multinational companies (Cisco, Ford, DEC, => etc.) probably 'shouldn't' have geographically-restrictive domain names. => There is also a .gb :-) It is mainly used to provide rfc822 address forms for GB X400 addresses, though, for x400 sites that haven't got their own onsite smtp<->x400 converters jamie ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 18:29:17 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <25012318252364@neurophys.wisc.edu> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 95 18:25 CST From: Ravi Kochhar Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: .XX domains To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU > >I'm stretching the limits of the topics discussed on this list, but, >is there a source that will help me decipher the domain codes >appearing in the address fields (.dk = Denmark, .ca = Canada, etc.)? >In particular, what is ".su". (My platform's "whois" doesn't help.) > One place to get this information plus many other interesting related facts is by anonymous ftp from rtfm.mit.edu in directory "pub/usenet/news.answers/mail". The file is named "country-codes". If anyone doesn't have access to ftp but wants the file please send me email and I'll mail it to you (it's 31 KB, too large to post to the entire list). Ravi Kochhar University of Wisconsin - Madison ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 05:44:56 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 06:42:24 EST From: John Hasstedt Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0098AEDE.1CC0F480.3@nuclear.physics.sunysb.edu> Subject: Returned mail I received the mail attached below. It is about a message to a nonexistant account on my machine that was returned to the NJE sender tag instead of the actual sender. The message was sent from an X400 network with a bitnet address: >X400-Recipients: SHROCK@SUNYSBNP.bitnet Then a gateway changed it to the equivalent internet address: >To: SHROCK@nuclear.physics.sunysb.edu SUNYSBNP.BITNET and nuclear.physics.sunysb.edu are the same node and our bitnet registration includes this information. The From: address in the message gives the original sender of the message. Can anyone tell from the information below where the problem is? This is all I have since all the MX files were deleted before I received this. John ========================================================================== John Hasstedt BITNET: MANAGER@SUNYSBNP Physics Department Internet: John.Hasstedt@sunysb.edu State University of New York HEPNET: SBNUC::MANAGER or 44145::MANAGER Stony Brook, NY 11794-3800 Phone: 516-632-8154 FAX: 516-632-8573 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Subject: non delivery returned to incorect address. > > >Hallo, >it looks like the MX mailer on your vax returns messages to the NJE sender >tag (SYSTEM@IBOINFN) instead of the actual sender (Svjetlana.Fajfer@IJS.si) >given in the BSMTP "MAIL FROM" tag and in the RFC822 "From:" one. > >This prevents messages from being correctly returned to actual sender. > >More over, not all mailers on BITnet are LISTSERV, thus please fix your MX >in order to return message to the actual sender, as required by rfc822. > >thanks and regards >claudio allocchio - postmaster > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:20:47 EST >From: Local delivery agent >To: SYSTEM@IBOINFN.BITNET >Subject: LOCAL delivery error >X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:" >Message-Id: > >Note: this message was generated automatically. > >An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of >the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that >allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect >addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. > >--> Error description: >Error-For: shrock@nuclear.physics.sunysb.edu >Error-Code: 3 >Error-Text: No such local user > >Error-End: 1 error detected > >------------------------------ Rejected message ------------------------------ >Received: from IBOINFN (SYSTEM) by nuclear.physics.sunysb.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) with > Jnet; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:20:44 EST >X400-Received: by mta INFNGW; Relayed ; Thu, 19 JAN 95 22:14:55 +0000 >X400-Received: by mta INFNGW; Relayed ; Thu, 19 JAN 95 16:12:57 +0000 >X400-Received: by /P=AC/A=MAIL/C=SI; Relayed ; Thu, 19 JAN 95 15:04:48 +0000 >X400-Received: by /P=ac/A=mail/C=si; Relayed ; Thu, 19 JAN 95 16:12:57 +0000 >X400-Received: by /A=GARR/C=IT; Relayed ; Thu, 19 JAN 95 16:12:49 +0000 >X400-MTS-Identifier: [/P=AC/A=MAIL/C=SI;13515191105991/213772@STENAR] >Date: Thu, 19 JAN 95 15:04:48 +0000 >X400-Originator: Svjetlana.Fajfer@IJS.si >X400-Recipients: SHROCK@SUNYSBNP.bitnet >Content-Identifier: recommendation f >X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) >Original-Encoded-Information-Types: Ia5-Text >X-Hop-Count: 00000002 >Message-ID: <84406191105991/373083 MRX> >From: Svjetlana.Fajfer@IJS.si >To: SHROCK@nuclear.physics.sunysb.edu >Subject: recommendation for ... > >. >. >. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 08:32:53 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 08:32:43 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098AEED.8589FE9E.5@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Returned mail John Hasstedt writes: > >Can anyone tell from the information below where the problem is? This is all I >have since all the MX files were deleted before I received this. > Well, he says: >>it looks like the MX mailer on your vax returns messages to the NJE sender >>tag (SYSTEM@IBOINFN) instead of the actual sender (Svjetlana.Fajfer@IJS.si) >>given in the BSMTP "MAIL FROM" tag and in the RFC822 "From:" one. >> My guess is that he's not right---my guess is that the BSMTP MAIL FROM: tag read just SYSTEM@IBOINFN, since that's what the To: line says. No real way to know unless you turn on MX_JNET_DEBUG and have him send another one. At least, I don't see any other reason for it.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 09:50:03 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: madison@tgv.com (Matt Madison) Subject: Re: Returned mail Date: 24 Jan 1995 15:39:45 GMT Message-ID: <3g3702$ckh@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0098AEDE.1CC0F480.3@nuclear.physics.sunysb.edu>, John Hasstedt writes: [...] & Can anyone tell from the information below where the problem is? This is all I & have since all the MX files were deleted before I received this. [...] & >it looks like the MX mailer on your vax returns messages to the NJE sender & >tag (SYSTEM@IBOINFN) instead of the actual sender (Svjetlana.Fajfer@IJS.si) & >given in the BSMTP "MAIL FROM" tag and in the RFC822 "From:" one. & > & >This prevents messages from being correctly returned to actual sender. & > & >More over, not all mailers on BITnet are LISTSERV, thus please fix your MX & >in order to return message to the actual sender, as required by rfc822. If the original headers are correct: & >Received: from IBOINFN (SYSTEM) by nuclear.physics.sunysb.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) with & > Jnet; Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:20:44 EST then this implies that the message was NOT sent using BSMTP from IBOINFN, but was done as a straight file send. If it had been sent using BSMTP, the Received: line would say "with BSMTP", not "with Jnet". This would explain why the bounce message went to the "wrong" place. Either the mailer at IBOINFN was confused and used the wrong transmission method to get the message to your system, or your BITNET host entry does not indicate that your system is capable of receiving BSMTP. If the latter is the case, then the INFN gateways should be refusing to gateway messages to your system (if I remember BITNET rules correctly). Either way, the problem is not with MX -- as far as it knows, SYSTEM@IBOINFN _is_ the "actual sender" of the message. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | madison@tgv.com | +1 408 457 5390 TGV, Inc. | 101 Cooper Street | Santa Cruz, CA 95060 USA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 12:05:21 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 10:51:57 MST From: Rocky Mountain Star Stare '95 - July 28-30 Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: m_frazier@borgil.cxo.dec.com Message-ID: <0098AF00.F92DAA40.3@borgil.cxo.dec.com> Subject: Re: .XX domains Sorry if you feel this is inappropriate for MX-List, but I had to respond to this: |> "country-codes". If anyone doesn't have access to ftp but wants |> the file please send me email and I'll mail it to you (it's |> 31 KB, too large to post to the entire list). If you have E-mail access, you have ftp access through the ftpmailers. If you don't know how to use the ftpmailers, then first choose the one closest to you from this list: Australia ftpmail@cs.uow.edu.au France ftpmail@grasp.insa-lyon.fr Germany ftpmail@ftp.uni-stuttgart.de Great Britain ftpmail@doc.ic.ac.uk Ireland ftpmail@ieunet.ie Sweden ftpmail@lth.se USA ftpmail@sunsite.unc.edu USA ftpmail@ftp.uu.net USA ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com And then in the body of the text, send the word HELP. You'll then get a file back explaining their use. Good luck... Mike ____________________________________________________________________________ / Mike Frazier | Join us at the Rocky Mountain Star Stare '95 \ | Oracle World Wide Support | July 28 - 30 where over 150 attendees will | | Rdb Support Team | enjoy clear, DARK skies at an elevation of | | Colorado Springs, Colorado| 8700 feet above sea level! Write for Details. | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Email Address: m_frazier@borgil.cxo.dec.com | \ WWW: http://www.hal.com/services/juggle/home/m_frazier@borgil.cxo.dec.com/ / ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 14:36:43 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 14:33:14 CST From: "Tom Worlton: 708-252-8755/TGWorlton@anl.gov" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098AF1F.E328729C.2@anpns1.pns.anl.gov> Subject: MX installation experiences I just finished installing MX and setting up a Mail server. I was unlucky enough to run into some problems that could be prevented in the future by improved documentation or command files. The two main problems I had were: 1. I did not list all the nodes in my cluster when it asked which nodes would run the SMTP server, and when I disabled Multinet smtp, smtp quit working on some nodes. It would help if the default choice were the asterisk so all nodes would be chosen by default. I took mostly default options on the install and would have avoided problems if that had been a default. I ended up reinstalling MX and read more carefully the second time and saw the asterisk option. 2. Not knowing how MX worked, I set up a Mail server and a File Server with the same name. This gave no problem until I tried to send messages to the mailing list and they just disappeared. I lost several hours on that before Hunter told me what the problem was. It would help if the documentation stated that the Mailing lists and File server lists should use unique names which are different from each other and the usernames on the system. An even better option would be to have the configuration procedure check to make sure the name was unique. Tom Worlton tgworlton@anl.gov ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 15:43:15 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 15:40:43 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: VMS-Web-Daemon@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, SickThings@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, MadGoat-Announce@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, MACRO32@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, KY-CaveNet-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, KISSARMY@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, Journey-L@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, Info-Zip-Announce@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, Harp-L@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, Great-Gonzos@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, DEVO-L@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, BLISSters@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, Alpha-IDS@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098AF29.50394C36.35@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: Mailing list archives via anonymous FTP FYI, the mailing list archives for lists hosted by WKUVX1.WKU.EDU are now available via anonymous ftp from ftp.wku.edu in the [.LISTS] subdirectory. If you prefer URLs, you can use: ftp://ftp.wku.edu/lists/ or ftp://ftp.wku.edu/lists/listname/ where "listname" is the name of the list (like KISSARMY, BLISSters, etc.). Note that some of them are also available via Gopher from gopher.wku.edu and more will be added soon. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 15:45:56 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 16:30:22 EST From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: uunet!WKUVX1.WKU.EDU!mx-list@esseye.si.com Message-ID: <0098AF30.3FCE5EC0.2@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: MX installation experiences Tom Worlton (tgworlton@anl.gov) writes: >1. I did not list all the nodes in my cluster when it asked which nodes would >run the SMTP server, and when I disabled Multinet smtp, smtp quit working on >some nodes. It would help if the default choice were the asterisk so >all nodes would be chosen by default. I took mostly default options on the >install and would have avoided problems if that had been a default. I ended >up reinstalling MX and read more carefully the second time and saw the >asterisk option. Not necessary at all, if your DNS has MX records from your cluster nodes that point to the real SMTP server nodes. For example, in our 35 node cluster, exactly two nodes run MX. But mail addressed to "swdev.si.com" (where SWDEV is our cluster alias) goes to just the two nodes because SWDEV in the DNS points to just those two nodes. Since it's a cluster, it doesn't matter which node actually delivers the mail. -- Brian tillman_brian@si.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 20:22:57 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: ZIRBESS@fws.gov (Susanne DeLay Zirbes) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: help on install, queue definition problem. Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 16:46:28 Message-ID: To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hi all- Am about to embark on running another of piece of software from my favorite software concern (MadGoat), and I've had problems with the install. I have an Alpha 3000/400s running Multinet 3.3B, VMS 6.1. VMSInstall went fine with all the defaults until to the very end, when I get: %MCP-I-QNEWQFL, creating new system message queue file for 5000 entries.... %MCP-E-QVTFAIL, error creating new system message queue -RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for operation directing me to correct the problem and MCP QUEUE CREATE when I've fixed the problem. I've defaulted the queue to sys$sysdevice:[mx.queue]. Looking in that directory, I can see the directories 0-9 created. Plenty of room on the device (DKA300:]. So, what's happened to me?? And, those of you who know me, feel free to flame a poor techie who has too many management duties to be good at what's important anymore ;-} -sueZ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 07:42:52 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 07:42:41 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: ZIRBESS@FWS.GOV Message-ID: <0098AFAF.B2CDB018.46@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: help on install, queue definition problem. ZIRBESS@fws.gov (Susanne DeLay Zirbes) writes: > >%MCP-I-QNEWQFL, creating new system message queue file for 5000 entries.... >%MCP-E-QVTFAIL, error creating new system message queue >-RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for operation > >directing me to correct the problem and MCP QUEUE CREATE when I've fixed the >problem. [...] >So, what's happened to me?? And, those of you who know me, feel free to flame >a poor techie who has too many management duties to be good at what's >important anymore ;-} > MX expected the logical you specified for the MX_FLQ_DIR to be defined /EXEC when it wasn't. Everything should be OK if you go ahead and do the MCP QUEUE CREATE. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 07:43:18 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 08:41:24 EST From: smcneilly@fred.bridgew.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098AFB7.E69637A0.26@fred.bridgew.edu> Subject: RE: help on install, queue definition problem. sueZ writes: >VMSInstall went fine with all the defaults until to the very end, when I get: >%MCP-I-QNEWQFL, creating new system message queue file for 5000 entries.... >%MCP-E-QVTFAIL, error creating new system message queue >-RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for operation >directing me to correct the problem and MCP QUEUE CREATE when I've fixed the >problem. That happened here, too. Just do what it says, i.e., use MCP QUEUE CREATE, and it will create the queue and you will live happily ever after, more or less. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@bridgew.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 08:53:16 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 08:50:36 CST From: "Tom Worlton: 708-252-8755/TGWorlton@anl.gov" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098AFB9.2FC3199C.1@anpns1.pns.anl.gov> Subject: RE: help on install, queue definition problem. Suez writes: >Hi all- >Am about to embark on running another of piece of software from my favorite >software concern (MadGoat), and I've had problems with the install. I >have an Alpha 3000/400s running Multinet 3.3B, VMS 6.1. > >VMSInstall went fine with all the defaults until to the very end, when I get: > >%MCP-I-QNEWQFL, creating new system message queue file for 5000 entries.... >%MCP-E-QVTFAIL, error creating new system message queue >-RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for operation > >directing me to correct the problem and MCP QUEUE CREATE when I've fixed the >problem. > >I've defaulted the queue to sys$sysdevice:[mx.queue]. Looking in that >directory, I can see the directories 0-9 created. Plenty of room on the >device (DKA300:]. > >So, what's happened to me?? And, those of you who know me, feel free to flame >a poor techie who has too many management duties to be good at what's >important anymore ;-} > >-sueZ I just installed MX and had the same problem. It is probably because some of the MX logicals are not defined yet. Check for the definition of MX_EXE and MX_DIR. You can probably define these with the command: $ @sys$startup:mx_startup logicals You will probably also want to define MCP:==$MX_DIR:MCP, then execute MCP QUEUE CREATE. Tom Worlton ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 10:41:03 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: ccdarg@zippy.dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: help on install, queue definition problem. Message-ID: <1995Jan25.125000.10413@zippy.dct.ac.uk> Date: 25 Jan 95 12:50:00 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article , ZIRBESS@fws.gov (Susanne DeLay Zirbes) writes: > Hi all- > Am about to embark on running another of piece of software from my favorite > software concern (MadGoat), and I've had problems with the install. I > have an Alpha 3000/400s running Multinet 3.3B, VMS 6.1. > > VMSInstall went fine with all the defaults until to the very end, when I get: > > %MCP-I-QNEWQFL, creating new system message queue file for 5000 entries.... > %MCP-E-QVTFAIL, error creating new system message queue > -RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for operation > > directing me to correct the problem and MCP QUEUE CREATE when I've fixed the > problem. This happens with first time installations of MX. There is no problem to fix. Just issue the MCP QUEUE CREAT COMMAND and off you go. I think its caused by a system logical not being defined at the time its first used. If you are upgrading MX then this problem doesn't occur. -- Alan Greig Janet: A.Greig@uk.ac.dct University of Abertay Dundee Internet: A.Greig@dct.ac.uk Tel: (0382) 308810 Int +44 382 308810 ** Never underestimate the power of human stupidity ** ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 10:48:34 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 16:35:01 GMT From: Howard Jeffrey Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0098AFFA.10D8A53D.69@vulcan.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk> Subject: MX and 8 bit data Dear MX users, I am having problems with 8 bit/binary files using MX. My mail routes through a campus hub that correctly checks for 8 bit data and issues a protocol error if it senses this. If you just mail a file containing 8 bit data using MX via the hub, the mail is rejected. Fair do's. Some of my users are generating what appear to be text files but infact must contain 8 bit data. I have yet to identify the source of this data. Has anyone experienced this problem ? Any sweet solutions apart from sending as /forgein or breaking smtp rules at the hub ?. Cheers, Howard. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Howard Jeffrey. Computer Centre, Email: H.Jeffrey@cranfield.ac.uk Cranfield University, Tel: +44 (0)234 754207 Cranfield, Beds, MK43 OAL __o /\ England _ \<,_ / \/\ (_)/ (_) / \ \/\ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 16:57:22 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: MX and 8 bit data Date: 25 Jan 1995 22:29:46 GMT Message-ID: <3g6jcq$q4i@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0098AFFA.10D8A53D.69@vulcan.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk>, Howard Jeffrey writes: # # I am having problems with 8 bit/binary files using MX. My mail routes #through a campus hub that correctly checks for 8 bit data and issues a protocol #error if it senses this. If you just mail a file containing 8 bit data using MX #via the hub, the mail is rejected. Fair do's. Some of my users are generating #what appear to be text files but infact must contain 8 bit data. I have yet to #identify the source of this data. Has anyone experienced this problem ? Any #sweet solutions apart from sending as /forgein or breaking smtp rules at the #hub ?. I'm not aware of any SMTP rule which requires that 8-bit data force a bounce of a message. The only reference I could find indicated that if only a 7-bit channel was available, the high bit should be strippd off. Commands and replies are composed of characters from the ASCII character set [1]. When the transport service provides an 8-bit byte (octet) transmission channel, each 7-bit character is transmitted right justified in an octet with the high order bit cleared to zero. I didn't check very many subsquent SMTP-related RFCs to see if this was clarified in some other RFC, though.... The 'solution' would be for MX to implement (the dreaded) quoted-printable encoding - this would replace 8-bit characters by 7-bit characters, which could be re-expanded at the destination system to their original 8-bit form. (I say "dreaded" because a lot of mailers can't return the 7-bit quoted- printable characters back into their 8-bit characters). -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 19:17:14 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: MX and 8 bit data Date: 26 Jan 1995 00:02:58 GMT Message-ID: <3g6ori$2ga@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <3g6jcq$q4i@news.arc.nasa.gov>, wing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") writes: =In article <0098AFFA.10D8A53D.69@vulcan.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk>, Howard Jeffrey writes: =# =# I am having problems with 8 bit/binary files using MX. My mail routes =#through a campus hub that correctly checks for 8 bit data and issues a protocol =#error if it senses this. If you just mail a file containing 8 bit data using MX =#via the hub, the mail is rejected. Fair do's. Some of my users are generating =#what appear to be text files but infact must contain 8 bit data. I have yet to =#identify the source of this data. Could be that they're using the multinational character set. E.g., they might be using the compose key on their terminals to generate things like vowels with umlauts. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 20:22:59 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: hlaufman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harry B Laufman) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Eudora and POP Date: 26 Jan 1995 01:57:59 GMT Message-ID: <3g6vj7$9gh@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hello, My users want to know why, when they use Eudora to send their mail, they can't use the same "short" name they do when logged in interactively? Ie. they must type in hlaufman@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu instead of just hlaufman. I know Eudora has NickNaming, but hey, these are users. Its been long day. Is it possible for the VAX MX 3.3 POP server to recognize the solitary user name as a valid address submitted by Eudora? Thanks and regards, Harry ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 22:03:28 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <9501260354.AA28269@us3rmc.pa.dec.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 95 19:54:49 PST From: Scot Bishop-Walker - DEC PC Integration 25-Jan-1995 1953 Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Subject: RE: Eudora and POP > My users want to know why, when they use Eudora to send their mail, > they can't use the same "short" name they do when logged in interactively? > Ie. they must type in hlaufman@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu instead of just > hlaufman. Can't do it. The PC they're sending from is NOT the mail host, and therefore can make no assumptions on which of the millions of hosts on the internet to send it to. With SMTP mail, one has to supply a mailbox as well as a location, i.e. If I sent US Mail to "Harry", it would never reach you. With an address, it gets there. Same concept. When sending from a PC, the mail is dropped to the mail host (typically a UNIX or VMS box) and because the mail is not originating locally (from the UNIX or VAX host) the mail program (usually fairly braindead) will not assume the user has an account on the mail host. If yoru DNS (Name Server) has all your mail hosts loaded, and the mail host has access, the user SHOULD be able to send with the format of user@host, instead of the fully qualified user@host.subdomain.domain.org, etc. It works for me with just user@host if AND ONLY IF the receiving host has a record on the DNS, and the receiving host is in the same domain as the sending host. - Scot ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 22:44:41 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 18:07:12 EST From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: bogart.denise@a1.otooa.oto.MTS.dec.com CC: mx-list@wku.edu Message-ID: <0098B006.F17E5360.15@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: MadGoat FTP Question 2 Denise Bogart (bogart.denise@a1.otooa.oto.MTS.dec.com) writes: > Will the MadGoat FTP software work with Wollongong software? I have >someone who want to transfer savesets and RMS files from a VAX with Wollongong >to an AXP running UCX 3.1. Do you know of anyone out there who has done this, >and I could use as a reference site? Yep. Works fine with Pathway. -- Brian tillman_brian@si.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 00:00:24 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: bjorndahl@augustana.ab.ca (Sterling Bjorndahl) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: MX and 8 bit data Message-ID: <1995Jan25.210606.11792@camrose> Date: 25 Jan 95 21:06:06 MST To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0098AFFA.10D8A53D.69@vulcan.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk>, H.Jeffrey@cranfield.ac.uk (Howard Jeffrey) writes: > Dear MX users, > > I am having problems with 8 bit/binary files using MX. My mail routes > through a campus hub that correctly checks for 8 bit data and issues a protocol > error if it senses this. If you just mail a file containing 8 bit data using MX > via the hub, the mail is rejected. Fair do's. Some of my users are generating > what appear to be text files but infact must contain 8 bit data. I have yet to > identify the source of this data. Has anyone experienced this problem ? Any > sweet solutions apart from sending as /forgein or breaking smtp rules at the > hub ?. Check the "From:" headers. Sometimes users try to put 8-bit characters in their personal names, not realizing that things like umlauts, French accents, and em-dashes were never imagined by the original ASCII committee. -- Sterling G. Bjorndahl, bjorndahl@Augustana.AB.CA Augustana University College, Camrose, Alberta, Canada (403) 679-1516 When dealing with computers, a little paranoia is usually appropriate. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 20:09:41 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 20:08:13 EST From: "Stanley J. McCaslin" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098B0E1.04075DE9.1@psccs1.peru.edu> Subject: Help, MX stopped receiving mail I have MX 4.1 running under VMS 5.5 and CMUTEK 6.5 on a VAXStation 3100, which is part of a local area VAXcluster but maintains its own UAF and Mail. It has been stable for several months, but yesterday it stopped accepting incoming mail. I am at a complete loss. I tried the following things to no avail-- stopping and re-starting MX stopping and re-starting IP and MX shutting down and re-booting the 3100 I got really desparate and re-installed 4.1, this resulted in my receiving one message, but then it stopped again. The local queues are empty. I don't know what to look for, but I have attached some stuff to show the status of my system. By the way, I am receiving mail on another system: mccaslin@pscvax.peru.edu Outgoing mail works, and I can telnet both into and out of the system. I would appreciate any suggestions. This is the mail queue on another system trying to send me mail: Entry: 38, Origin: [Local] Status: IN-PROGRESS SMTP entry #43, status: READY Waiting for retry until: 26-JAN-1995 19:59:13.64 Recipient #1: , Route=PSCCS1.PERU.EDU Error count=19 Last error: %SYSTEM-F-REJECT, connect to network object rejected Entry: 56, Origin: [Local] Status: IN-PROGRESS SMTP entry #57, status: READY Waiting for retry until: 26-JAN-1995 19:55:30.90 Recipient #1: , Route=PSCCS1.PERU.EDU Error count=6 Last error: %SYSTEM-F-REJECT, connect to network object rejected log MCCASLIN logged out at 26-JAN-1995 19:53:40.56 %REM-S-END, control returned to node _PSCCS1:: This is the system that is not receiving mail: VAX/VMS V5.5-2 on node PSCCS1 26-JAN-1995 19:53:53.65 Uptime 0 07:47:25 Pid Process Name State Pri I/O CPU Page flts Ph.Mem 21800041 SWAPPER HIB 16 0 0 00:00:08.76 0 0 1800703 MCCASLIN CUR 4 1336 0 00:00:11.83 4090 329 1800046 CONFIGURE HIB 10 18 0 00:00:00.29 838 148 1800047 IPCACP HIB 10 8 0 00:00:00.29 287 64 1800049 ERRFMT HIB 8 324 0 00:00:02.75 258 70 180004A CACHE_SERVER HIB 16 6 0 00:00:00.11 64 93 180004B CLUSTER_SERVER HIB 8 11 0 00:00:03.84 213 48 180004C OPCOM HIB 8 49 0 00:00:00.89 475 94 180004D AUDIT_SERVER HIB 10 44 0 00:00:01.14 2817 63 180004E JOB_CONTROL HIB 9 1042 0 00:00:10.42 1299 89 180004F SMISERVER HIB 9 42 0 00:00:00.73 666 48 1800050 TP_SERVER HIB 10 12 0 00:00:00.40 851 119 1800053 NETACP HIB 9 208 0 00:00:01.35 694 169 1800054 EVL HIB 6 52 0 00:00:00.92 7918 45 N 1800055 DECW$SERVER_0 HIB 6 255 0 00:00:09.08 5221 151 1800056 REMACP HIB 8 23 0 00:00:00.18 123 37 1800057 LATACP HIB 14 21 0 00:00:00.57 1128 104 1800058 _WSA1: LEF 4 62 0 00:08:51.00 946 1628 1800059 RDMS_MONITOR LEF 15 21 0 00:00:00.65 887 40 180005A RPC$SWL HIB 8 24 0 00:00:00.28 144 32 180005B HITMAN HIB 6 433 0 00:00:16.98 834 426 18000A1 IPACP(V6.6-5A) HIB 10 10235 0 00:00:28.11 2887 318 1800562 NAMRES HIB 7 106 0 00:00:00.71 500 188 N 18003A4 Talk Server LEF 5 8 0 00:00:00.24 86 93 1800225 Location Server LEF 4 42 0 00:00:00.24 101 76 1800866 WILLIAMS LEF 4 65 0 00:00:00.69 279 337 18003A9 MX FLQ Manager HIB 4 372 0 00:00:03.11 395 176 18003AA MX Router HIB 4 356 0 00:00:04.46 774 323 180042D MX Local HIB 4 25 0 00:00:00.59 217 203 180052E MX SMTP HIB 4 336 0 00:00:02.55 603 313 180056F MX SMTP Server HIB 4 16 0 00:00:00.42 220 168 1800570 MX LSV Intfc HIB 4 14 0 00:00:00.29 188 141 1800471 MX MLF HIB 4 181 0 00:00:01.81 242 157 Here are the MX logicals: (LNM$PROCESS_TABLE) "MX_AUTO_SIGNATURE" = "ON" "MX_SIGNATURE" = "DKA300:[MCCASLIN]PLAN." (LNM$JOB_80722E10) (LNM$GROUP_000011) (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) "MX_ALIAS_HELPLIB" = "MX_DIR:MX_ALIAS_HELPLIB" "MX_DEVICE" = "PSCVAX$DKA100:" "MX_DIR" = "MX_DEVICE:[MXCS1]" "MX_DOC" = "MX_ROOT:[DOC]" "MX_EXAMPLES_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[EXAMPLES]" "MX_EXE" = "MX_ROOT:[EXE]" "MX_FLQ_DIR" = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[MXCS1.QUEUE]" "MX_FLQ_NODE_NAME" = "PSCCS1" "MX_FLQ_SHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_FLQ_SHR" "MX_JNET_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[JNET]" "MX_LOCAL_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[LOCAL]" "MX_LSV_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[LSV]" "MX_MAILSHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_MAILSHR" "MX_MAILSHRP" = "MX_EXE:MX_MAILSHRP" "MX_MCP_HELPLIB" = "MX_DIR:MX_MCP_HELPLIB" "MX_MLF_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[MLF]" "MX_MLIST_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[MLF.MAILING_LISTS]" = "MX_ROOT:[LOCAL.MLIST]" "MX_MSG" = "MX_EXE:MX_MSG" "MX_NODE_NAME" = "psccs1.peru.edu" "MX_ROOT" = "MX_DEVICE:[MXCS1.]" "MX_ROUTER_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[ROUTER]" "MX_SHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_SHR" "MX_SITE_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[SITE]" "MX_SITE_DOM_EXPANSION" = "MX_EXE:DOMAIN_EXPANSION" "MX_SMTP_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[SMTP]" "MX_SMTP_SERVER_THREADS" = "8" "MX_UUCP_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[UUCP]" "MX_VMSMAIL_LOCALHOST" = "@psccs1.peru.edu" (DECW$LOGICAL_NAMES) Username: SYSTEM Password: Last interactive login on Thursday, 26-JAN-1995 17:00 Last non-interactive login on Thursday, 26-JAN-1995 19:51 1 failure since last successful login $ mcp MCP> show queue/full/all MCP-I-QENTRIES, total matching entries: 0 MCP> show all Configuration file: MX_DEVICE:[MXCS1]MX_CONFIG.MXCFG;15 MX version id is: MX V4.1 VAX Mailing lists: Name: COMPSCI Owner: "mccaslin@PSCCS1.PERU.EDU" Reply-to: List, Sender Archive: MX_DEVICE:[MXCS1.MLF.FILE_SERVERS.ARCHIVES.COMPSCI] Add message: PSCCS1$DKA300:[MCCASLIN.MLIST]MLIST_ADD_MESSAGE.TXT Remove message: PSCCS1$DKA300:[MCCASLIN.MLIST]MLIST_REMOVE_MESSAGE.TXT Description: Computer Science at Peru State College Errors-to: MCCASLIN@PSCCS1.PERU.EDU Strip header: Received, NOOther Private list: No Case sensitive: Yes Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RWED,WORLD:RWE) Domain-to-path mappings: Domain="psccs1.peru.edu", Path=Local Domain="[192.132.7.96]", Path=Local Domain="psccs1", Path=Local Domain="*.BITNET", Path=SMTP, Route="cunyvm.cuny.edu" Domain="*.UUCP", Path=SMTP, Route="uunet.uu.net" Domain="*", Path=SMTP Aliases: LocalName="Postmaster", Address="mccaslin@psccs1.peru.edu" LocalName="POSTMAST", Address="mccaslin@psccs1.peru.edu" File servers: Name: archives, Manager: mccaslin@psccs1.peru.edu Root: MX_DEVICE:[MXCS1.MLF.FILE_SERVERS.ARCHIVES.] Not linked to a mailing list. Delay threshold: 0 Send period: 17:00 - 08:00 Daily limits: Server: 0 Host: 0 User: 0 SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Number of DNS failure retries: 12 Accounting: disabled Default router: (none) LOCAL agent settings: DECnet delivery retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. Multiple VMS Mail From: addresses allowed. Local delivery errors are not CC'ed to local Postmaster. Delivery to MultiNet MM disallowed. Top headers: FROM,SENDER,TO,RESENT_TO,CC,RESENT_CC,BCC,RESENT_BCC,MESSAGE_ID, RESENT_MESSAGE_ID,IN_REPLY_TO,REFERENCES,KEYWORDS,SUBJECT, ENCRYPTED,DATE,REPLY_TO,RECEIVED,RESENT_REPLY_TO,RESENT_FROM, RESENT_SENDER,RESENT_DATE,RETURN_PATH,OTHER Bottom headers: (none) ROUTER agent settings: Automatic percent-hack handling: enabled Sender header for outgoing VMS Mail messages: included if necessary JNET agent settings: Automatic percent-hack handling: enabled BSMTP replies: disabled Accounting: disabled Lenient about gatewaying mail: no No mailer username set. DECnet_SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. SITE agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 X25_SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. Stanley J. McCaslin Inet: mccaslin@psccs1.peru.edu Assistant Professor, Computer Science Phone:402/872-2208 Peru State College, Peru, NE 68421 Home: 402/872-7595 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 20:20:56 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 20:19:33 EST From: "Stanley J. McCaslin" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098B0E2.992F75A9.5@psccs1.peru.edu> Subject: RE: Help, MX stopped receiving (more info) I found TCP_ACTIVITY.LOG, which probably tells me what I need to know, if I could understand it. Could someone explain what I need to do to correct the problem indicated in this excert? again, my mail works to mccaslin@pscvax.peru.edu 12:11:22.26 Logging enabled 12:11:22.38 Log event mask set to 00000001 26-JAN-1995 12:11:23.62 Forked Server: SMTPSV.1(PID:005E) <128.255.200.69> 26-JAN-1995 12:11:24.42 Open UDP Port 26215 (0) <0.0.0.0> 26-JAN-1995 12:11:26.78 Forked Server: SMTPSV.1(PID:0060) <192.132.7.3> 26-JAN-1995 12:11:27.14 Open UDP Port 518 (0) <0.0.0.0> 26-JAN-1995 12:11:27.20 Open UDP Port 517 (0) <0.0.0.0> 26-JAN-1995 12:11:32.71 Forked Server: SMTPSV.1(PID:0062) <192.132.7.3> 26-JAN-1995 12:11:48.82 Forked Server: SMTPSV.1(PID:0066) <192.132.7.3> 26-JAN-1995 12:12:20.62 Forked Server: SMTPSV.1(PID:006C) <192.132.7.3> 26-JAN-1995 12:12:23.79 Forked Server: SMTPSV.1(PID:006D) <129.186.6.63> 26-JAN-1995 12:12:46.04 Forked Server: SMTPSV.1(PID:006F) <128.112.129.99> 26-JAN-1995 12:12:47.62 SYN received for unknown port 25 from <192.132.7.3> 26-JAN-1995 12:12:49.23 SYN received for unknown port 25 from <128.112.129.99> 26-JAN-1995 12:12:53.68 SYN received for unknown port 25 from <129.186.6.63> 26-JAN-1995 12:13:19.89 SYN received for unknown port 25 from <128.205.2.1> 26-JAN-1995 12:13:24.95 SYN received for unknown port 25 from <152.163.172.49> 26-JAN-1995 12:13:27.12 SYN received for unknown port 25 from <128.255.200.69> 26-JAN-1995 12:13:31.83 SYN received for unknown port 25 from <152.163.172.49> 26-JAN-1995 12:14:09.72 Forked Server: SMTPSV.1(PID:0070) <192.132.7.3> 26-JAN-1995 12:14:12.59 Forked Server: SMTPSV.1(PID:0071) <128.206.226.2> 26-JAN-1995 12:14:14.17 SYN received for unknown port 25 from <192.132.7.3> 26-JAN-1995 12:14:18.30 SYN received for unknown port 25 from <128.206.226.2> 26-JAN-1995 12:14:35.89 Forked Server: SMTPSV.1(PID:0072) <152.163.172.49> Stanley J. McCaslin Inet: mccaslin@psccs1.peru.edu Assistant Professor, Computer Science Phone:402/872-2208 Peru State College, Peru, NE 68421 Home: 402/872-7595 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 08:34:13 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 15:32:42 +0100 From: Juan Altmayer Pizzorno Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098B183.B0DF36D3.1@vms.gmd.de> Subject: Re: MX and 8 bit data wing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") writes: >I'm not aware of any SMTP rule which requires that 8-bit data force a >bounce of a message. The only reference I could find indicated that if only >a 7-bit channel was available, the high bit should be strippd off. > > [...] > >I didn't check very many subsquent SMTP-related RFCs to see if this was >clarified in some other RFC, though.... There is a lot about 8 and 7 bit-SMTP in RFC 1428: "Transition of Internet Mail from Just-Send-8 to 8bit-SMTP/MIME". Maybe that helps. Back to the original problem: In article <0098AFFA.10D8A53D.69@vulcan.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk>, Howard Jeffrey writes: # # I am having problems with 8 bit/binary files using MX. My mail routes #through a campus hub that correctly checks for 8 bit data and issues a protocol #error if it senses this. If you just mail a file containing 8 bit data using MX #via the hub, the mail is rejected. Fair do's. Some of my users are generating #what appear to be text files but infact must contain 8 bit data. I have yet to #identify the source of this data. Has anyone experienced this problem ? Any #sweet solutions apart from sending as /forgein or breaking smtp rules at the #hub ?. As far as I know, MX does "just-send-8", i.e., it doesn't change the bits in the message in any way. Strictly seen, without ESMTP and the 8BITMIME extension (RFC 1426) it's not *really* legal to send messages with the highest bit on over SMTP. (On the other hand, it's the simplest way to get multinational charaters through.) Maybe teaching MX ESMTP and 8BITMIME would solve your local problem. .. Juan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 15:11:47 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 16:08:33 EST From: Jim Walker Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, craa79@ccsun.strath.ac.uk CC: sysmgr@bigvax.alfred.edu Message-ID: <0098B188.B30D94A0.145@bigvax.alfred.edu> Subject: MX Local Agents dying with status 1C088024 craa79@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ( Bruce Rodger) writes: >My MX local processes are regularly dying! MX 4.1 vax and axp, VMS 5.5-2, >ucx 3.1 >The processes exit with status 1C088024. I've see it too on VAX/VMS 6.1, with Multinet 3.3. I think the queue file gets corrupted. When it starts doing it, it tends to get worse over time until I stop all the agents and create a new queue file. Then it's fine for awhile. Jim Walker VAX System & Network manager, Alfred University Computer Center, Alfred, NY 14802-1298 USA +1-607-871-2222, Using VAX/VMS V6.1 , SYSMGR@ALFREDU.bitnet, WALKER@CERAMICS.bitnet ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 19:08:18 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: craa79@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ( Bruce Rodger) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: MX local agents die Date: 27 Jan 1995 12:55:19 GMT Message-ID: <3gaqfn$smo@rockall.cc.strath.ac.uk> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU My MX local processes are regularly dying! MX 4.1 vax and axp, VMS 5.5-2, ucx 3.1 The processes exit with status 1C088024. $ ty MX_LOCAL_VAXB.LOG;1 27-JAN-1995 12:18:00.34: MX Local (pid 21C19227) starting 27-JAN-1995 12:24:01.51: MX Local (pid 21C19227) exiting, status = 1C088024 $ Turning up the debugging doesn't give much more info - the MX_LOCAL_LOG file just contains: $ ty MX_LOCAL_LOG.log;3 27-JAN-1995 12:24:00.47 Processing queue entry number 2200 $ In the queue directories, there is a 2200.LOCAL_INFO file, but no other 2200. files. Any suggestions ? Bruce. -- Bruce Rodger |Bruce.Rodger@strath.ac.uk Computer Centre | The University of Strathclyde | +44 (0)141 552 4400 x3460 Glasgow G4 0LN, Scotland. | Fax 553 4100 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 11:31:22 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: martineau@meccr.ccr.hydro.qc.ca (Alain Martineau) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: Eudora and POP Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 16:59:38 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <9501260354.AA28269@us3rmc.pa.dec.com>, Scot Bishop-Walker - DEC PC Integration 25-Jan-1995 1953 wrote: > > My users want to know why, when they use Eudora to send their mail, > > they can't use the same "short" name they do when logged in interactively? > > Ie. they must type in hlaufman@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu instead of just > > hlaufman. > > > Can't do it. The PC they're sending from is NOT the mail host, and therefore > can make no assumptions on which of the millions of hosts on the internet to > send it to. > > With SMTP mail, one has to supply a mailbox as well as a location, i.e. If I > sent US Mail to "Harry", it would never reach you. With an address, it gets > there. Same concept. > > When sending from a PC, the mail is dropped to the mail host (typically a UNIX > or VMS box) and because the mail is not originating locally (from the UNIX or > VAX host) the mail program (usually fairly braindead) will not assume the user > has an account on the mail host. > > If yoru DNS (Name Server) has all your mail hosts loaded, and the mail host has > access, the user SHOULD be able to send with the format of user@host, instead of > the fully qualified user@host.subdomain.domain.org, etc. > > It works for me with just user@host if AND ONLY IF the receiving host has a > record on the DNS, and the receiving host is in the same domain as the sending > host. > > - Scot I did make it work with Eudora, Multinet, IUPOP and VMSmail. When Eudora sends a message to a user with no @domain appended, it appends its own domain to it. With an MX record in my DNS server pointing to my my hub, all mail addressed to user@my_domain ends up to the mail hub. In the mail hub, which is a VAX, I set up FORWARD back to their POP server for each user. Alain Martineau amartineau@ccr.hydro.qc.ca ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 14:47:03 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sat, 28 Jan 95 12:41:20 -0800 Message-ID: <9501282041.AA11520@inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "MAIL-11 Daemon" From: scot@vmpyr.wro.dec.com (Scot Bishop-Walker) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: Eudora and POP > When Eudora sends a message to a user with no @domain appended, it >appends its own domain to it. With an MX record in my DNS server pointing >to my my hub, all mail addressed to user@my_domain ends up to the mail >hub. In the mail hub, which is a VAX, I set up FORWARD back to their POP >server for each user. I'm impressed. Didn't know that could be done. I think I'll go play with that and see if I can get it working! - Scot <-----------------------------------------------+-----------------------> | Scot Bishop-Walker | Digital Equipment Corporation | Northern California PC Integration Services | This | Space <-----------------------------------------------+ for | rent Digital Equipment Corporation | cheap! M/S: WRO1-2/R20 | Santa Clara CA 95054 USA | | <-----------------------------------------------+-----------------------> ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:03:10 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: Subject: SMTP problems with MX 4.1, please help To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 19:57:10 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: "Andreas Wylach" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Content-Type: text Hi folks, First of all, thank you guys again helping me out with my MGFTP problems, special thanks to Charles Streible (hope the name is right, Charles) and Peter Smode. Anyway, I still have big problems with the smtp server of MX. Take a look at the logs and the returned mail. But let me explain my environment first. It is a VAX 3400 with OpenVMS 5.5-1, (This version will be updated the next days to 6.2. The net device is ESA0 on-board ethernet adaptor. The network is fully RG58 cable, what is not popular in the united states, I think, but in europe. Anyway, the mail and news server is a LINUX 486/66 machine with smail. This Unix machine serves the rest of the network partners, that means my VAX and two other Unix machines. The TCPIP software running on my VAX is CMUIP 6.6-5A and netlib 1.7. The mx is, as you can see, V 4.1. The smtp service of CMUIP are totally disabled, so there is no confusion with servers. The SMTP server threads of mx are the maximum (16 in amount). All other processes of mx (local, router, mx smtp and router are 5 processes in amount) Now, lets take a look on the log and message: This mail is sent from the Linux machine to the VAX. It is a request to the listserver. As I saw in the mcp program, the connection to smtp server of MX is established. It takes about a couple of minutes (mx retries I guess) and following message is coming back in my unix mailbox: |------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------| wn-discuss-request@wnvax.wupper.de ... transport smtp: no connection to remote SMTP server: 499 timeout on read from remote SMTP process |------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------| Received: by ifwb.wupper.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rYdpT-00027vC; Sun, 29 Jan 95 18:54 GMT+0100 Message-Id: Subject: To: wn-discuss-request@wnvax.wupper.de Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 18:54:27 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: "Andreas Wylach" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 10 SUBSCRIBE -- The log of the mx says following: 29-JAN-1995 19:21:09.01 Processing queue entry number 5 on node WNVAX 29-JAN-1995 19:21:09.39 Recipient: , route=IFWB.WUPPER.DE 29-JAN-1995 19:21:09.40 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name IFWB.WUPPER.DE 29-JAN-1995 19:21:09.42 SMTP_SEND: DSN_MXLOOK status is 00000001 29-JAN-1995 19:21:09.53 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with mail.wupper.de. [193.100.177.9] 29-JAN-1995 19:21:39.75 -- failed, status=0000022C 29-JAN-1995 19:21:39.76 SMTP_SEND: Failed, sts=0000022C 29-JAN-1995 19:21:39.76 SMTP send failed, sts=0C27804A, sts2=0000022C 29-JAN-1995 19:21:39.76 Recipient status=0C27804A for 29-JAN-1995 19:21:40.49 1 rcpts need retry, next try 29-JAN-1995 19:22:40.49 29-JAN-1995 19:21:40.55 *** End of processing pass *** -- Other logs (SMTP_SERVER_LOG.LOG) say error status 002C, or 'file could not be opened' As I saw in translating the message codes I have such *nice* messages like 'devive time out', 'aborbed'. All of them with the 'F' fatal code identfier. Another problem is, if you try to send 10 messages from unix to my VAX within 20 seconds or so, 4 will be delivered and the rest bounce back to the unix postmaster with the above message smtp timeout 499. So, as a summary: The mx smtp seems to be to slow and the unix smail to fast. Well, Henry Miller said a while ago, unix machines fork out messages so fast, that even a really fast vax can't respond. If you ask me, I don't believe that. I think there are a couple of guys out there, which have a heterogenous net- work, where VAX machines are message recipients of unix servers. I think, that my mx problem is not a big one, I think there must be a solution to get that mx running on my VAX like it should be. So, folks, please give me some clues again, like the last time with MGFTP. I only want the VAX running as a stable machine in the network, like you guys have 8-)) . If you have more questions, or need more logs, whatever, pleeeeze let me know, that I can solve my problem here. A side question: new releases like the NSQUERY and NEWSRDR have problmes in linking with netlib 1.7. Got the new sources of above named software packages netlib routines that doesn't exist in the netlib version 1.7 ? I got problems linking the images with the 1.7 netlib. There are about 8 functions that come out with the linker message 'undefined symbols'! Thanks in advance for you help. see ya, Andreasw -- Andreas W. Wylach | AW@IFWB.WUPPER.DE | Information system from IfwB Wuppertal | ANDREASW@AXPVMS.PA.DEC.COM | students for students. W.- Germany | WYLACH@WWCIP4.WIWI.UNI-WUPPERTAL.DE -- Don't vax me like you used to *BREAK* -- -- This is COMP.OS.VMS, not ALT.READ.MY.MIND. -- (Carl J Lydick) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 17:25:51 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: peter.burnett@seuk.com (Peter Burnett) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: .XX domains Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 19:18:55 +0000 Message-ID: <08d_9501301942@seuk.com> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hello ichjsmt@earth.oscs.montana.edu! Monday January 23 1995, ichjsmt@earth.oscs.montana.edu writes to All: i> I'm stretching the limits of the topics discussed on this list, but, i> is there a source that will help me decipher the domain codes i> appearing in the address fields (.dk = Denmark, .ca = Canada, etc.)? i> In particular, what is ".su". (My platform's "whois" doesn't help.) .SU is the Soviet Union I beleive.... Ed Krol's book "The whole internet...." has an appendix devoted to this. Best Regards, Peter [ Home: system@vax1.seuk.com // Work: pdb@pds2.compd.com ] -- Peter Burnett Tel: 44-831-838714 SSSSS EEEEE U U K K 10 Parsons Close Fax: 44-1424-853364 S E U U K K St. Leonards On Sea Data: 44-1424-853361 SSSSS EEEE U U KKK East Sussex S E U U K K UK TN38 9QT system@vax1.seuk.com SSSSS EEEEE UUUU K K ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 20:21:44 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 20:21:11 CST From: The Wizard Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0098B407.7CD19360.1@BEAVER.Bemidji.MSUS.edu> Subject: Resetting QUE STATISTICS? Folks When doing ... $ MCP QUE STAT two numbers are displayed. Is there a way to reset the "Highest Entry Used" part? About a hundred years ago it topped out at 90%. Since then I've added more processors and I'd like to know how I'm doing. //----------\|/------\\ Dave Miller. || /\ -X- || Professor, Computer Science. || / \ /|/\ || || / \ / \ || DMILLER@BEAVER.Bemidji.MSUS.EDU || / \ \ || || /________\____\ || 1500 Birchmont Dr. NE || || || || Bemidji State University \\------|| -------// Bemidji MN, 56601 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 20:57:26 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: SMTP problems with MX 4.1, please help Date: 31 Jan 1995 02:45:22 GMT Message-ID: <3gk882$o92@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article , "Andreas Wylach" writes: =Another problem is, if you try to send 10 messages from unix to my VAX within =20 seconds or so, 4 will be delivered and the rest bounce back to the unix =postmaster with the above message smtp timeout 499. By default the SMTP Server process runs four threads. If all four threads are busy, then it won't accept any more connections. From MX_DOC:MX_MGMT_GUIDE.TXT, 5.2 SMTP_SERVER The SMTP server is a detached, multi-threaded process. You can specify how many threads the server should handle simultaneously by defining a logical name: $ DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC MX_SMTP_SERVER_THREADS n The value of n should range from 1 to 16. The default is 4. The SMTP server may require larger process quotas/limits if more than four threads are allowed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 22:45:35 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: Resetting QUE STATISTICS? Date: 31 Jan 1995 04:14:05 GMT Message-ID: <3gkded$h6i@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0098B407.7CD19360.1@BEAVER.Bemidji.MSUS.edu>, The Wizard writes: #When doing ... # # $ MCP QUE STAT # #two numbers are displayed. Is there a way to reset the "Highest Entry Used" #part? About a hundred years ago it topped out at 90%. Since then I've added #more processors and I'd like to know how I'm doing. See: MCP> HELP QUEUE EXTEND -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 23:49:58 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: mailing lists Message-ID: <3fgq2j$i4q@hnssysb.hns.com> From: mvbinet@yogi.hns.com Date: 17 Jan 1995 16:08:51 GMT Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Our mx-server is a on a separate node to our main-stream users along of course with the internetworking software (cmuip 6-6.5a). The reason being to try and keep separate from our main machines. Mail is sent via. addressing IN"user@address" where IN is a logical name equivalent to PLOD::MX%. Internet mail works fine (apart from when cmu has problems accessing a nameserver). Public mailing lists are ok too. Where the problem occurs is with mailing lists with specified owners whom should handle subscription requests etc.. Here is the list definition : Mailing lists: Name: ccb-team Owner: "m_vanbellen%yogi@YOGI.HNS.COM" Reply-to: NOList, Sender Description: Configuration and Control Board Team Errors-to: m_vanbellen%yogi@yogi.hns.com Strip header: NOReceived, NOOther Private list: No Case sensitive: No Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RWED,WORLD:R) Now I think the problem is when mxserver attempts to authorize m_vanbellen the sending address is "yogi::m_vanbellen"@yogi.hns.com, however MX will not let me set the owning user to the above - so the question is how do I get round it? My Paths and Rewrites are as follows (supplementary info) Domain-to-path mappings: Domain="yogi.hns.com", Path=Local Domain="*.BITNET", Path=SMTP, Route="cunyvm.cuny.edu" Domain="*.UUCP", Path=SMTP, Route="uunet.uu.net" Domain="*", Path=SMTP Address-rewriting rules: Rewrite "<{user}%{node}@{rest}>" => "<""{node}::{user}""@{rest}>" I would appreciate any help you could spare me on this matter. Also if you could let me know if you receive this posting ok as I have posted to a number of newsgroups recently and not had replies. Thanks, Mark +----------------------------------------------------------+-------------------+ | Mark Van-Bellen E-Mails MVANBELLEN@HNS.COM | | | Systems Engineer +----------------------------+ | | Hughes Network Systems Ltd. | Telephone : +44 908 221122 extension 211 | | Milton Keynes, England. | Fax : +44 908 221127 | +-----------------------------+------------------------------------------------+ | The three faithful things in life are money, a dog, and an old woman. | +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 04:41:34 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 10:41:20 GMT From: rourke_j@actfs.co.uk Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098B47F.A687457E.8@actfs.co.uk> Subject: RE: Resetting QUE STATISTICS? >> When doing ... >> $ MCP QUE STAT >>two numbers are displayed. Is there a way to reset the "Highest Entry Used" Yes - use $ MCP QUE SYNC/RESET ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 08:27:27 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 16:20:48 +0100 Message-ID: <95013116204884@alpha1.mpib-tuebingen.mpg.de> From: ohuigin@alpha1.mpib-tuebingen.mpg.de Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Subject: subscribe ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 09:49:12 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 08:36:44 MDT From: "Mark geib@vistanm.com" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: GEIB@vistanm.com Message-ID: <0098B46E.3E33BCC0.22534@vistanm.com> Subject: How best for Windows and VMS to handle mail We are a VMS site with both VAXes and AXPs. We, the company, recently purchased three PCs which are now running Windows for Workgroups 3.11. These PCs are to be used by people which at times logon to a VMS machine to work for various reasons. Since the PCs are running Windows for Workgroups they do not run PATHWORKS. My question is what or how to handle mail when they are using the PCs, the majority of the time. I don't want the mail delivered to the PCs because then they would not have access to the mail when they logion to VMS. I prefer to have the mail sit on VMS, in VMS mail, but be able to access it from a PC. Is this possible, any suggestions are greatly appreciated in advance. Mark. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Mark D. Geib | "The most likely way for the world to be Vista Control Systems, Inc. | destroyed, most experts agree, is by accident. Los Alamos, NM | That's where we come in; we're computer Email: geib@vistanm.com | professionals. We cause accidents." Voice:505.662.2484 | -Nathaniel Borenstein FAX:505.662.3956 | %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 10:27:39 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 09:25:22 MST From: Mark Tarka Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098B475.098E1720.14@earth.oscs.montana.edu> Subject: RE: subscribe |From: MX%"MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU" 31-JAN-1995 09:11:18.86 |To: MX%"mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu" |CC: |Subj: subscribe | |Return-Path: |Received: from WKUVX1.WKU.EDU by earth.oscs.montana.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) with | SMTP; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 09:11:16 MST |X-ListName: Message Exchange Discussion List |Warnings-To: <> |Errors-To: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU |Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU |Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 16:20:48 +0100 |Message-ID: <95013116204884@alpha1.mpib-tuebingen.mpg.de> |From: ohuigin@alpha1.mpib-tuebingen.mpg.de |Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU |To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu |Subject: subscribe |X-VMS-To: SMTP%"mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu" Am I reading this header correctly; ohuigin send a subscription request to the list address, and the request was _distributed_? Mark ichjsmt@earth.oscs.montana.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 10:29:59 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 11:27:06 EST From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: geib@vistanm.com, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0098B486.0B128480.2720@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: How best for Windows and VMS to handle mail > We are a VMS site with both VAXes and AXPs. We, the company, recently > purchased three PCs which are now running Windows for Workgroups 3.11. > These PCs are to be used by people which at times logon to a VMS machine to > work for various reasons. Since the PCs are running Windows for Workgroups > they do not run PATHWORKS. > My question is what or how to handle mail when they are using the PCs, > the majority of the time. I don't want the mail delivered to the PCs > because then they would not have access to the mail when they logion to > VMS. I prefer to have the mail sit on VMS, in VMS mail, but be able to > access it from a PC. Is this possible, any suggestions are greatly > appreciated in advance. How about using a terminal emulation program with Telnet capability to log into the VAXes from the PCs? - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 10:55:27 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 10:53:58 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098B481.6A205029.6@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: subscribe Mark Tarka writes: > >Am I reading this header correctly; ohuigin send a subscription >request to the list address, and the request was _distributed_? > Since it was improperly sent to the list address, yes, it was distributed. It should have been mailed to MX-List-request@wkuvx1.wku.edu. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 11:22:42 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 12:20:06 EST From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0098B48D.72EAD240.2749@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: subscribe > Am I reading this header correctly; ohuigin send a subscription > request to the list address, and the request was _distributed_? |Return-Path: |Received: from WKUVX1.WKU.EDU by earth.oscs.montana.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) with | SMTP; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 09:11:16 MST |X-ListName: Message Exchange Discussion List |Warnings-To: <> |Errors-To: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU |Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU |Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 16:20:48 +0100 |Message-ID: <95013116204884@alpha1.mpib-tuebingen.mpg.de> |From: ohuigin@alpha1.mpib-tuebingen.mpg.de |Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU |To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu |Subject: subscribe |X-VMS-To: SMTP%"mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu" Yes. Of course. She sent it to mx-list, not to mx-list-request, as she should have. - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 11:48:36 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 17:33:16 +0000 From: John Powers Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <1714331731011995/A10049/OXFORD/1191FC610D00*@MHS> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU (Non Receipt Notification Requested) (IPM Return Requested) Subject: A commercial version of MX? Can you tell me if there is a commercially available version of MX mail available? Having seen it in action, we are very keen to adopt it here as our company-wide preferred product for mail throughout Blackwells. However, the boss is not happy at using a free product - he wants to spend some money! To explain his bizarre attitude more fully, Email is increasingly becoming a central plank in our IT strategy, and he feels he needs full support for it. He would like to find a product that, in addition to working as smoothly as MX does, also has a full time support desk to help us out with any bugs, problems or simple queries. I fear that the disclaimer at the front is what frightens him off. He would like to have someone to sue if things go wrong! (In fact I suspect this ability to sue is in practice worthless. I have never heard of anybody reclaiming in court more than they expend in legal costs). We have had a look at commercial product called PMDF, supplied in the UK by Essential Computing from a parent company called Innosoft. Ironically, he is put off that product because he feels it is too expensive! Has anybody else heard of that product? If so, how does it compare with MX? We may end up having to use that if we can find nothing else .. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Powers - Blackwell's, Oxford - - "if light wine is messy" (anag.) john.powers@blackwell.co.uk (Internet) (A better one coming shortly, PSI%234284400179::TJGP (PSImail) I hope!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 12:45:15 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: "scots::scots::mrgate::a1::softels00001"@isvnet.enet.dec.com Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <9501311840.AA17468@us4rmc.pko.dec.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 13:40:42 EST X-MX-Warning: Warning -- Invalid "To" header. To: us4rmc::"mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu"@isvnet.enet.dec.com Subject: RE: subscribe From: NAME: Ian Miller - Softel Systems FUNC: TEL: To: NAME: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU <"MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU"@US4RMC@ISVNET@MRGATE@SCOTS@NBS> I guess he should have sent to mx-list-request Anything posted to mx-list is going to get distributed, isn't it ? Ian Miller, Softel Systems. softels00001@partners.new.mts.dec.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 12:46:37 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: "scots::scots::mrgate::a1::softels00001"@isvnet.enet.dec.com Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <9501311840.AA17450@us4rmc.pko.dec.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 13:40:32 EST X-MX-Warning: Warning -- Invalid "To" header. To: us4rmc::"mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu"@isvnet.enet.dec.com Subject: RE: How best for Windows and VMS to handle mail From: NAME: Ian Miller - Softel Systems FUNC: TEL: To: NAME: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU <"MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU"@US4RMC@ISVNET@MRGATE@SCOTS@NBS> Parhaps a POP3 server on the VAX to make the mail in the VMS mail files available to suitable client software. You will need a protocol stack in common between the VAX and PC of course over which you talk POP3 and SMTP. You could use PATHWORKKS V5 which can talk same protocol as wfwg (NETBUI ?). In fact I have a vauge thought pathworks V5 client comes with a VMS mail reader. Otherwise you could run up a TCP/IP protocol stack on the PC (lots available) and on the VAX. These are just a few thoughts that I am considering myself (I have a similar problem - bunch of people on PCs running wfwg+novell to whom I would like to send mail). Ian Miller, Softel Systems. softels00001@partners.new.mts.dec.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 13:03:38 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 14:01:25 -0500 (EST) From: EVERHART@arisia.gce.com Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <950131140125.62@arisia.gce.com> Subject: RE: A commercial version of MX? Might I suggest that finding some consultant to supply MX support might be a more fruitful way to spend money. PMDF can do a lot of things MX lacks, but if MX does all you need (and it does a LOT!) then hiring the help desk would seem more sensible than trying to buy something. When you pay for a product, you may or may not get any more support than for a free one (particularly a well supported free one like MX). The idea of being "saved" by a lawsuit is also pretty pathetic...if an author doesn't know how to write a piece of code right in the first place, what makes anyone believe a lawyer can get him to? Market forces are sometimes effective, but the bigger an organization gets, the more complex the release overhead... ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 13:08:46 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 13:52:38 EST From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: uunet!WKUVX1.WKU.EDU!mx-list@esseye.si.com Message-ID: <0098B49A.5F8C1940.4@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: A commercial version of MX? John Powers (john.powers@blackwell.co.uk) writes: Your boss' best alternative to MX is PMDF. -- Brian tillman_brian@si.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 13:13:55 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 12:11:48 MST From: Mark Tarka Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098B48C.499A74A0.22@earth.oscs.montana.edu> Subject: RE: subscribe In article <0098B481.6A205029.6@ALPHA.WKU.EDU>, "Hunter Goatley, WKU" writes:From: MX%"MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU" 31-JAN-1995 11:12:24.57 [NB Quote symbol is "?" for the current message.] ?Mark Tarka writes: ?> ?>Am I reading this header correctly; ohuigin send a subscription ?>request to the list address, and the request was _distributed_? ?> ?Since it was improperly sent to the list address, yes, it was ?distributed. It should have been mailed to ?MX-List-request@wkuvx1.wku.edu. If I _assume_ ohuigin isn't a list subscriber, then you'd be saying that anyone can post to a [MX] list at any time! Although, he could already be a subscriber, and posting for the fun of it :) Mark ichjsmt@earth.oscs.montana.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 13:34:36 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 13:33:54 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098B497.C1DFE4FD.15@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: subscribe Mark Tarka writes: > >If I _assume_ ohuigin isn't a list subscriber, then you'd be saying >that anyone can post to a [MX] list at any time! That's true, for MX-List. MX lets you define lists so that anyone can post or only list subscribers can post. MX-List is set to allow anyone to post---without that, NEWS postings to vmsnet.mail.mx would not be allowed onto the list. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 13:35:59 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 13:32:05 CST From: "Tom Worlton: 708-252-8755/TGWorlton@anl.gov" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098B497.80D5545C.2@anpns1.pns.anl.gov> Subject: RE: How best for Windows and VMS to handle mail ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 13:57:15 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 13:53:27 CST From: "Tom Worlton: 708-252-8755/TGWorlton@anl.gov" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098B49A.7CB871BC.10@anpns1.pns.anl.gov> Subject: RE: How best for Windows and VMS to handle mail >From: "Mark geib@vistanm.com" >Subject: How best for Windows and VMS to handle mail >We are a VMS site with both VAXes and AXPs. We, the company, recently purchased >three PCs which are now running Windows for Workgroups 3.11. These PCs are to be >used by people which at times logon to a VMS machine to work for various >reasons. Since the PCs are running Windows for Workgroups they do not run >PATHWORKS. >My question is what or how to handle mail when they are using the PCs, the >majority of the time. I don't want the mail delivered to the PCs because then >they would not have access to the mail when they logion to VMS. I prefer to have >the mail sit on VMS, in VMS mail, but be able to access it from a PC. Is this >possible, any suggestions are greatly appreciated in advance. There is a program called DELIVER available from Hunter Goatley's file server which will allow you to do special handling of incoming mail on a VMS system. You can set this up so you could forward mail to the PC and still receive it on the VMS system. It can be a lot of bother to delete unwanted messages from both places, but DELIVER can also be set up to filter the incoming mail so that some would be delivered to VMS and some to the PC. This package is also useful for other things such as notifying people of a change of address and forwarding the mail automatically. DELIVER can sort mail according to the subject or according to who sent it. It can even execute a command file based on the subject of the message. By the way, we have a mixture of PC's, Macs, and VMS systems and we use QuickMail on the PC's because that is what the Macs use. This has the nice capability of being able to mail documents from Macs to PCs as enclosures so a Word document on the Mac can be sent to a PC and read on the PC, and vice versa. Tom Worlton ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 14:47:29 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 14:44:50 CST From: hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0098B4A1.AA9273CE.42@uwwvax.uww.edu> Subject: error message Where can one find the meaning of: %mx_smtp-w-insuff_storage, acton not taken: insuff. system storage It is not in the managers guide Lyle Hunter Computer Center University Wisconsin-Whitewater hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 14:48:46 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 15:43:46 EST From: smcneilly@fred.bridgew.edu Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098B4A9.E6255A20.69@fred.bridgew.edu> Subject: RE: How best for Windows and VMS to handle mail Mark Geib writes: >We are a VMS site with both VAXes and AXPs. We, the company, recently purchased >three PCs which are now running Windows for Workgroups 3.11. These PCs are to be >used by people which at times logon to a VMS machine to work for various >reasons. Since the PCs are running Windows for Workgroups they do not run >PATHWORKS. >My question is what or how to handle mail when they are using the PCs, the >majority of the time. I don't want the mail delivered to the PCs because then >they would not have access to the mail when they logion to VMS. I prefer to have >the mail sit on VMS, in VMS mail, but be able to access it from a PC. Is this >possible, any suggestions are greatly appreciated in advance. As already noted, terminal emulation is a good solution. If you have people, such as some here, who don't want to deal with a command line prompt, another solution would be to use Eudora (available free and in a commercial version) on the PC and POP3 (also available free as IUPOP3) on the VAXes. Microsoft's TCP/IP-32 is available at very low cost. Eudora will optionally leave mail on VAX after transferring to the PC - not the most economical use of disk space, but it seems to meet your other requirements. You can use Microsoft's TCP/IP-32 as the only transport protocol for WFW, or in addition to NETbeUI, or whatever you are using now. Microsoft's TCP/IP comes with a terminal emulator, but not what I would call a full-featured one. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@bridgew.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 14:58:06 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 14:56:47 CST From: "Hunter Goatley, WKU" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0098B4A3.55D8256B.21@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: error message hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu writes: > >Where can one find the meaning of: >%mx_smtp-w-insuff_storage, acton not taken: insuff. system storage >It is not in the managers guide That's coming from the remote system, which is telling your system that it doesn't have enough disk space available. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University goathunter@ALPHA.WKU.EDU (or goathunter@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 20:26:48 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: error message Date: 1 Feb 1995 02:11:14 GMT Message-ID: <3gmqk2$q4f@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0098B4A1.AA9273CE.42@uwwvax.uww.edu>, hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu writes: #Where can one find the meaning of: #%mx_smtp-w-insuff_storage, acton not taken: insuff. system storage #It is not in the managers guide #Lyle Hunter #Computer Center #University Wisconsin-Whitewater #hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu Enable SMTP debugging; I've seen this error when we try to send a message to a remote system, and it returns an error indicating that it doesn't have sufficient disk space to spool the mail. -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com