Archive-Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 00:04:47 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 00:04:39 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099BB65.352A92C6.124@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU> Subject: MX-LIST Administrivia: Monthly Post Posting statistics for list MX-LIST during December 1995 Total number of posts: 77 Total number of posters: 43 Total number of subscribers: 286 Last modified: 28-SEP-1995 13:33 (Updated digest info) Welcome to MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, an electronic mailing list established for the discussion of the Message Exchange mail software. This is a routine posting you will see from time to time on MX-List. MX-List postings are also available in a daily digest format. To subscribe to the digest, send the following command in the body of a mail message to MXserver@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU: SUBSCRIBE MX-List-Digest "Your real name here" The MX-List archives are maintained at ARCHIVES@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU. 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If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions about MX-List, please contact the list owner at the address below. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer goathunter@LOKI.COM The LOKI Group, Inc. P.O. Box 9609 Bowling Green, KY 42102-9609 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 14:33:01 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:38:52 -0500 From: bills@freris.fsu.umd.edu (Bill Southerly) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <9601022038.AA17593@freris.fsu.umd.edu> To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Subject: MX Version 4.1 question CC: bills@freris.fsu.umd.edu Our systems administrator is hospitalized and asked me to post this message. S Since I am not trained in this area, if I state something that doesn't make sense, please let me know but I think I have the question correct. We are about to upgrade our VMS from 5.5-2 to 6.2 and our UCX from 2.0 to 3.3 and are presently running MX Version 4.1. Does this combination present any known problems or do we need to update to the most recent version of MX at this time as well. As I stated, since the administrator of the MX system side of things is hospitalized we plan to delay this upgrade if it doesn't present problems until she is out of the hospital. The people upgrading the VMS and UCX have no experience with MX and don't wish to delay. Thanks. Please post your responses either to the list or to my personal address of BILLS@FRERIS.FSU.UMD.EDU Bill ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 15:24:39 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 15:23:51 CST From: Bob Christenson Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099BCAE.C8C1B600.3@fcseng.frco.com> Subject: RE: MX Version 4.1 question writes: } } [SNIP } We are about to upgrade our VMS from 5.5-2 to 6.2 and our UCX from 2.0 to 3.3 } and are presently running MX Version 4.1. Does this combination present any } known problems or do we need to update to the most recent version of MX } [SNIP Last week we upgraded from VMS 5-5.2 to VMS 6.1, UCX 3.1 to UCX 3.3 and left MX at 4.1. We are currently having no problems. Bob ----------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- | Robert A. Christenson | VOICE: 515.754.3854 | EMAIL: | | Fisher Controls Int., Inc. | FAX: 515.754.2831 | rachri1@fcseng.frco.com | | 205 S. Center St. | ______ _______ _______ | | R.A. Engel Technical Center | | _ \ | _ | | ____| | | Marshalltown, IA 50158 | | |_) / __| _ |__| |____ __ | ----------------------------- |___|\___\__|__| |__|__|_______|__| ---------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 19:49:28 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: acf9358@u6000b.lnc.hk (Anthea KW Lee) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Need Help on pop3 server??? Date: 2 Jan 1996 08:55:17 GMT Message-ID: <4cartl$26s@sparc10a.ln.edu.hk> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I am trying to use the Eudora application. Unfortunately, I don't know whether my unix account with a Post Office Protocol version (pop3) server. Although I can use the Eudora software, I can still use the "elm" in this account; for sending and receiving my message. Hope someone can help me on that. Thank You!!!!!!! ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 07:07:56 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 08:07:34 EST From: Brian Reed Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099BD3B.00BADA28.3@cbict3.cb.att.com> Subject: Personal name not being added I noticed that my VMS mail personal name is not being added to mail messages. I checked the documentation, and it says that MX will include the personal name if set. I can't find any other reference in the documents, such as a flag to turn this function off. Any help/pointers on how to fix this appreciated. I'm running Alpha VMS 6.1, UCX 3.2, MX 4.1 Brian D. Reed AT&T Columbus Works Brian.D.Reed@att.com 614-860-6218 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 07:44:10 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: From: "MIKE SMITH" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu, MSMITH@cadmin.nsac.ns.ca Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:45:51 AST Subject: MX_LOCAL Process keeps dieing. Hello Everyone, My mx_local process runs for about two minutes and dies. It has been runnning fine for the past two years and two weeks ago I remove the DECNET_SMTP process as out last VAX running decnet went away. Since then mx_local now longer runs for very long. I reenable decnet over smtp and it still dies on me. Now I have to bump my mx_local process to 16 and run it every morning to get the previous days messages processed. This really bugs me though. Here is a copy of my mx_local.log file. $ TYPE MX_LOCAL_AC.LOG 3-JAN-1996 08:40:49.42: MX Local (pid 00000C34) starting 3-JAN-1996 08:41:00.10: MX Local (pid 00000C34) exiting, status = 10018294 If any one has any suggestions please let me know. I really don't want to do this for the rest of my life. Thank you, Mike ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 08:17:19 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 08:17:13 CST From: hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099BD3C.59693097.4@uwwvax.uww.edu> Subject: RE: MX_LOCAL Process keeps dieing. => My mx_local process runs for about two minutes and dies. It has been => runnning fine for the past two years and two weeks ago I remove the => DECNET_SMTP process as out last VAX running decnet went away. Since => then mx_local now longer runs for very long. I reenable decnet over => smtp and it still dies on me. Now I have to bump my mx_local process => to 16 and run it every morning to get the previous days messages => processed. This really bugs me though. Here is a copy of my => mx_local.log file. => => $ TYPE MX_LOCAL_AC.LOG => 3-JAN-1996 08:40:49.42: MX Local (pid 00000C34) starting => 3-JAN-1996 08:41:00.10: MX Local (pid 00000C34) exiting, status = 10018294 do: write sys$output f$message(%x10018294) Lyle Hunter Computer Center University Wisconsin-Whitewater hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 08:44:48 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 09:09:56 EST From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: reed@cbict3.cb.att.com Message-ID: <0099BD43.B6B98380.15@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: Personal name not being added Brian Reed (reed@cbict3.cb.att.com) wrote: >I noticed that my VMS mail personal name is not being added to >mail messages. Works for me. In fact, if you sent your message via MX, it worked for you, too. Here's your From: header: From: Brian Reed Looks like a personal name to me. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- Brian Tillman | Internet: tillman@swdev.si.com Smiths Industries, Inc. | tillman_brian@si.com 4141 Eastern Ave., MS239 | Hey, I said this stuff myself. Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 09:07:59 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 16:07:30 +0100 From: Richard Levitte - GNU on VMS hacker Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099BD7E.0C13A081.7@e.kth.se> Subject: Re: MX_LOCAL Process keeps dieing. >From: "MIKE SMITH" >My mx_local process runs for about two minutes and dies. It has been >runnning fine for the past two years and two weeks ago I remove the I've heard of such a thing happening when a message with more than one address in the From: line appears (yes, I'm absolutelly serious, someone was sending such messages!). The thing is, it stays in the message queue until it has been dealt with, and since MX Local dies, it hasn't been dealt with, so it still stays in the message queue. The result is that MX Local will be handed that message again, and will die again. This is with MX 4.1 Of course, this is maybe not the problem you have, but a check on the messages in the message queue can't hurt. >$ TYPE MX_LOCAL_AC.LOG > 3-JAN-1996 08:40:49.42: MX Local (pid 00000C34) starting > 3-JAN-1996 08:41:00.10: MX Local (pid 00000C34) exiting, status = 10018294 How about using the debugging logical names?: $ DEFINE /SYSTEM MX_LOCAL_DEBUG YES (I hope the name is correct. It's written from memory). You will get a file named MX_ROOT:[LOCAL]MX_LOCAL_LOG.LOG for each transfer done. Also, you didn't tell us the version of the MX you use. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Richard Levitte, GNU on VMS hacker ! tel: +46-8-26 52 47 ! ! Spannvägen 38, I ! fax: none for the moment ! ! S-161 43 Bromma ! Internet: levitte@e.kth.se ! ! SWEDEN ! ! +-GNUish VMS-+ You may not add me to a commercial mailing list or send me commercial advertising without my consent! See http://www.e.kth.se/~levitte/anti.html for further reference. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 09:30:30 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 08:30:06 MST From: Mark Tarka Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099BD3E.268988A0.5@earth.oscs.montana.edu> Subject: RE: Personal name not being added In article <0099BD3B.00BADA28.3@cbict3.cb.att.com>, Brian Reed writes: [NB Quote symbol is "| " for the current message.] | I noticed that my VMS mail personal name is not being added to | mail messages. I checked the documentation, and it says that | MX will include the personal name if set. I can't find any | other reference in the documents, such as a flag to turn this | function off. Any help/pointers on how to fix this appreciated. | | I'm running Alpha VMS 6.1, UCX 3.2, MX 4.1 $ MAIL MAIL> HELP SET PERSONAL_NAME ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 09:37:07 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 09:35:55 CST From: Dave Miller Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099BD47.58016BB1.3@BEAVER.Bemidji.MSUS.edu> Subject: RE: MX_LOCAL Process keeps dieing. > From: "MIKE SMITH" > My mx_local process runs for about two minutes and dies. It has been > runnning fine for the past two years and two weeks ago I remove the snip ... If you have disk quotas enabled, check SYSTEM's. This happened to me when SYSTEM ran out of quota. //----------\|/------\\ Dave Miller. || /\ -X- || Professor, Computer Science. || / \ /|/\ || || / \ / \ || SYSTEM@BEAVER.Bemidji.MSUS.EDU || / \ \ || || /________\____\ || 1500 Birchmont Dr. NE || || || || Bemidji State University \\------|| -------// Bemidji MN, 56601 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 15:36:19 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 22:35:52 +0100 From: Richard Levitte - GNU on VMS hacker Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0099BDB4.4D6090DF.18@e.kth.se> Subject: Re: MX_LOCAL Process keeps dieing. >=I've heard of such a thing happening when a message with more than one >=address in the From: line appears (yes, I'm absolutelly serious, someone >=was sending such messages!). > >Actually, more than one address in the From: line's not all that uncommon. >MX's MLF process will do exactly that if you've got a list set up with >Reply-to: set to List, Sender. I've yet to see that cause the problem this >thread is about, though. Yes, that is correct. But you're talking VMS Mail when you mention the From: line (which, as you say, is taken from the Reply-To: line of the SMTP message). I'm talking about a message that has been received by the SMTP server, that contains a From: line with multiple addresses. That is quite different from the Reply-To: header that you mention. I'm not sure at all a From: line with multiple addresses in an SMTP message is legal at all. I'd have to check the RFC... -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Richard Levitte, GNU on VMS hacker ! tel: +46-8-26 52 47 ! ! Spannvägen 38, I ! fax: none for the moment ! ! S-161 43 Bromma ! Internet: levitte@e.kth.se ! ! SWEDEN ! ! +-GNUish VMS-+ You may not add me to a commercial mailing list or send me commercial advertising without my consent! See http://www.e.kth.se/~levitte/anti.html for further reference. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 16:10:49 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 16:10:06 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099BD7E.69783F13.3@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: Re: MX_LOCAL Process keeps dieing. Richard Levitte - GNU on VMS hacker writes: > >Yes, that is correct. But you're talking VMS Mail when you mention >the From: line (which, as you say, is taken from the Reply-To: line >of the SMTP message). I'm talking about a message that has been received >by the SMTP server, that contains a From: line with multiple addresses. >That is quite different from the Reply-To: header that you mention. > >I'm not sure at all a From: line with multiple addresses in an SMTP >message is legal at all. I'd have to check the RFC... > It's legal---and in fact, MX MLF can generate them, if you want. List posts can go out with a From: line containing both the list address and the original poster's address. If you don't want MX to put multiple addresses in the VMS Mail From: line, use MCP SET LOCAL/NOMULTIPLE_FROM. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 16:16:41 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: MX_LOCAL Process keeps dieing. Date: 3 Jan 1996 20:31:42 GMT Message-ID: <4cep3e$hb0@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article , "MIKE SMITH" writes: =Hello Everyone, = =My mx_local process runs for about two minutes and dies. It has been =runnning fine for the past two years and two weeks ago I remove the =DECNET_SMTP process as out last VAX running decnet went away. Since =then mx_local now longer runs for very long. I reenable decnet over =smtp and it still dies on me. Now I have to bump my mx_local process =to 16 and run it every morning to get the previous days messages =processed. This really bugs me though. Here is a copy of my =mx_local.log file. = =$ TYPE MX_LOCAL_AC.LOG = 3-JAN-1996 08:40:49.42: MX Local (pid 00000C34) starting = 3-JAN-1996 08:41:00.10: MX Local (pid 00000C34) exiting, status = 10018294 = = If any one has any suggestions please let me =know. I really don't want to do this for the rest of my life. OK, first step is to figure out what the status means: $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$MESSAGE(%X10018294) %RMS-F-FNF, file not found So the local process is exiting because it can't find a file. Next, let's consider the behavior you describe: You tell us that if you "bump [your] mx_local process to 16" that delivers the previous days messages. It's not clear just what you mean by that. Do you mean you have to set the number of local delivery processes to 16, and that gets the backlog of messages processed? If so, then my guess is that you've got a queue entry for which one of the files is lacking in the queue directories. Check for an entry that's been around since this problem started. Then check to see which files for it are in the queue dir. If one of them's missing, you'll have to delete that queue entry (though you might, from the files that DO exist, be able to figure out where the mail was supposed to go, and resend it manually). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 17:39:52 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 00:39:41 +0100 From: Richard Levitte - GNU on VMS hacker Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099BDC5.9992CFB1.5@e.kth.se> Subject: Re: MX_LOCAL Process keeps dieing. >From: Hunter Goatley >It's legal---and in fact, MX MLF can generate them, if you want. List >posts can go out with a From: line containing both the list address >and the original poster's address. I think I'll shut my mouth for now. I made a few tests, but failed to reproduce what happened at that time (I was shown the failure in question). -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Richard Levitte, GNU on VMS hacker ! tel: +46-8-26 52 47 ! ! Spannvägen 38, I ! fax: none for the moment ! ! S-161 43 Bromma ! Internet: levitte@e.kth.se ! ! SWEDEN ! ! +-GNUish VMS-+ You may not add me to a commercial mailing list or send me commercial advertising without my consent! See http://www.e.kth.se/~levitte/anti.html for further reference. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 04:18:46 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: MX_LOCAL Process keeps dieing. Date: 3 Jan 1996 20:39:47 GMT Message-ID: <4cepij$ikr@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0099BD7E.0C13A081.7@e.kth.se>, Richard Levitte - GNU on VMS hacker writes: =>From: "MIKE SMITH" = =>My mx_local process runs for about two minutes and dies. It has been =>runnning fine for the past two years and two weeks ago I remove the = =I've heard of such a thing happening when a message with more than one =address in the From: line appears (yes, I'm absolutelly serious, someone =was sending such messages!). Actually, more than one address in the From: line's not all that uncommon. MX's MLF process will do exactly that if you've got a list set up with Reply-to: set to List, Sender. I've yet to see that cause the problem this thread is about, though. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 04:18:50 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: MX_LOCAL Process keeps dieing. Date: 4 Jan 1996 01:07:51 GMT Message-ID: <4cf997$rlr@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0099BDB4.4D6090DF.18@e.kth.se>, Richard Levitte - GNU on VMS hacker writes: =>Actually, more than one address in the From: line's not all that uncommon. =>MX's MLF process will do exactly that if you've got a list set up with =>Reply-to: set to List, Sender. I've yet to see that cause the problem this =>thread is about, though. = =Yes, that is correct. But you're talking VMS Mail when you mention =the From: line (which, as you say, is taken from the Reply-To: line =of the SMTP message). I'm talking about a message that has been received =by the SMTP server, that contains a From: line with multiple addresses. =That is quite different from the Reply-To: header that you mention. = =I'm not sure at all a From: line with multiple addresses in an SMTP =message is legal at all. I'd have to check the RFC... It's legal. The following example is from RFC822: A.2.7. Agent for member of a committee George's secretary sends out a message which was authored jointly by all the members of a committee. Note that the name of the committee cannot be specified, since names are not permitted in the From field. From: Jones@Host, Smith@Other-Host, Doe@Somewhere-Else Sender: Secy@SHost -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 19:22:44 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: Ferguson@uvii.mag.aramark.com (Linwood Ferguson) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Outbound SMTP mail stops - lack of logical Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 00:14:03 GMT Message-ID: To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I had a problem with outbound SMTP mail which I found and solved, but it makes me wonder if I have things set up right. I'm using CMUIP, and managed to reboot without the logical INTERNET_HOST_NAME set. One of the processes exited, giving (in the log) 4-JAN-1996 15:46:14.51: MX SMTP (pid 000012A1) starting and nothing else. Checking accounting I found a status that indicate logical not defined, defined it, and all is well. My fault, silly mistake. However, this was going on for several days, and outbound mail was backed up and not going out. Inbound mail was coming in just fine, and since I was the only user and the holidays around I did not notice for a long time. Should something be set up to send warnings or even bounce messages more frequently in cases like this? The SMTP settings are: SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Number of DNS failure retries: 12 Accounting: disabled Default router: (none) That gives me a 4 day bounce time, but (obviously) not if the process is not running. Is there anything I should have had configured, set, running, etc. that would have given me a clue something was going on other than just remembering to check the queue periodically? PS. This is still 4.1. --- Linwood Ferguson e-mail: ferguson@uvii.mag.aramark.com Mgr. Software Engineering Voice: (US) 540/967-0087 ARAMARK Mag & Book Services ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 08:00:30 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 08:58:59 EST From: Scott McNeilly Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099BED4.83F8DF80.37@fred.bridgew.edu> Subject: RE: Outbound SMTP mail stops - lack of logical From: Ferguson@uvii.mag.aramark.com (Linwood Ferguson) wrote: >I had a problem with outbound SMTP mail which I found and solved, but it makes >me wonder if I have things set up right. [snip] >Is there anything I should have had configured, set, running, etc. that would >have given me a clue something was going on other than just remembering to >check the queue periodically? >PS. This is still 4.1. In the [CONTRIB] directory of MX 4.2 there is a procedure called WATCHDOG.COM which periodically checks to see if all MX processes are running. You might want to use that. However, there may be no substitute for periodic checks of the queue. I have found on a few occasions that the Router seemed to be running (MCP STAT showed it as running, as well as SHOW SYSTEM), but in fact it was doing nothing. When I tried to MCP SHUTDOWN all processes, every process shutdown except Router. It did not respond to repeated SHUTDOWNs. I had to use STOP/ID to kill it. After restarting everything was OK. But WATCHDOG would not have helped in those cases. Eternal vigilance is the price of (almost) uninterrupted mail, I think, but I certainly would be happy to hear of other solutions. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@bridgew.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 11:48:05 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <199601051747.MAA08328@redstone.interpath.net> From: "Rich Hill" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 12:36:50 -0500 Subject: Problems w/ V4.2 Here is a summary of the problems that I have encountered after upgrading from MX V4.1 to MX V4.2. 1) MX_EXE:MX_START.COM does not properly handle multiple instances of the UUCP agent. UUCP needs to be added to the list of things that can have multiple instances. This list is stored in the symbol MULTI_THINGS in the procedure MX_START.COM. Note: This was also a problem with V4.1. 2) SMTP-over-DECnet is failing. Entries are being left in the queue with a status of OPERHOLD. After enabling debugs for MX_DNSMTP, I discovered: a) The DNSMTP server process does NOT close the log files after it finishes processing a message, or at least if it places the message on hold. b) The debug log file don't show much, but the MX_DNSNTP_node.LOG file contained the following error: error reading DNSMTPINFO file for entry 13: 00018292 HOLDing Router entry 1 The VMS status 00018292 => %RMS-E-FNF, file not found Sure enough, the DNSMTP_INFO files were not in the queue directories. However messages queued after DNSMTP has been shutdown, do have DNSMTP_INFO files. Once DNSMTP comes up and processes an entry, the entry is placed on hold and the DNSMTP_INFO file disappears. This problem did force me to switch over to using SMTP between the two VAXen that had been using DNSMTP to exchange mail. Other than the problem with SMTP-over-DECnet, V4.2 seems to be working as advertised. Keep up the good work Hunter and Matt. Rich Hill -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rich Hill S I M Rich.Hill@sim.org Systems Engineer b y EasyLink: 62923838 SIM USA, Inc. P r a y e r Phone: 1-704-587-1462 Charlotte, NC since 1893 FAX: 1-704-587-1518 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [SC] Smiley captioned for the humor impaired. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 12:00:31 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 11:59:25 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: RICH_H@SIMUSA.SIM.ORG Message-ID: <0099BEED.B89ADEEB.39@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Problems w/ V4.2 "Rich Hill" writes: > >1) MX_EXE:MX_START.COM does not properly handle multiple instances of the > UUCP agent. UUCP needs to be added to the list of things that can > have multiple instances. This list is stored in the symbol MULTI_THINGS > in the procedure MX_START.COM. > Note: This was also a problem with V4.1. > Thanks for letting me know. I probably have a note about that somewhere, but missed it when getting V4.2 ready. >2) SMTP-over-DECnet is failing. Entries are being left in the queue with > a status of OPERHOLD. "Congratulations! You have just discovered the secret message...." ;-) When MX V4.2 encounters an entry for which a file is missing, it no longer bombs out, but rather sets the entry in OPERHOLD so you can go back and READY it when the problem has been solved. > After enabling debugs for MX_DNSMTP, I > discovered: > a) The DNSMTP server process does NOT close the log files after it > finishes processing a message, or at least if it places the > message on hold. > I'll try to investigate that sometime. > b) The debug log file don't show much, but the MX_DNSNTP_node.LOG > file contained the following error: > error reading DNSMTPINFO file for entry 13: 00018292 > HOLDing Router entry 1 > The VMS status 00018292 => %RMS-E-FNF, file not found > Sure enough, the DNSMTP_INFO files were not in the queue > directories. However messages queued after DNSMTP has been > shutdown, do have DNSMTP_INFO files. Once DNSMTP comes up and > processes an entry, the entry is placed on hold and the > DNSMTP_INFO file disappears. > Now that shouldn't happen, and I'm not sure what to tell you about it. The very first thing the agents do when they begin processing an entry is to read the corresponding Router entry info, then read the appropriate INFO file. I don't have any explanation for why that file would disappear; perhaps you could enable some alarms to help track down what's deleting them? > This problem did force me to switch over to using SMTP between the two > VAXen that had been using DNSMTP to exchange mail. > The DNSMTP agent uses the exact same logic that all the other agents do, so I'm not sure why it would fail when SMTP works.... >Other than the problem with SMTP-over-DECnet, V4.2 seems to be working as >advertised. Keep up the good work Hunter and Matt. > Thanks. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 15:07:59 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: How to stop/fix DSN MX lookups for local nodes? Message-ID: <1996Jan5.193200@genrad.co.uk> From: dongray@genrad.co.uk (Derek Dongray) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 96 19:32:00 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I have now defined a bunch of MX records on the local nameserver. This seems to have fixed the problem. I still don't understand why it only affected one machine. -- Derek Dongray, Systems Manager, GenRad Ltd., Cheshire, UK. dongray@genrad.co.uk dongray@genrad.com 70374,2745 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 15:08:04 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: cczanj@axp0.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk (Andy Jack) Subject: Re: MX Version 4.1 question Date: 5 Jan 1996 10:28:47 GMT Message-ID: <4ciugv$c20@griffin.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <9601022038.AA17593@freris.fsu.umd.edu>, bills@freris.fsu.umd.edu (Bill Southerly) writes: > [...] > >We are about to upgrade our VMS from 5.5-2 to 6.2 and our UCX from 2.0 to 3.3 >and are presently running MX Version 4.1. Does this combination present any >known problems or do we need to update to the most recent version of MX at this >time as well. We are running MX 4.1 over UCX 3.3 & VMS 6.2 without (touch wood) any problems. However, I would urge you to get at least ECO 3 for UCX 3.3 - we had problems with virtual terminals and such - nothing to do with MX. Yesterday, I installed UCX 4.0 on my workstation and haven't found anything untoward yet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cripps Computing Centre, RFC-822: Andy.Jack@nottingham.ac.uk University of Nottingham, X.400: G=Andy;S=Jack;O=Nottingham;P=UK.AC;C=GB Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Phone: +44 115 951 3328 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 15:08:12 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: How to stop/fix DSN MX lookups for local nodes? Message-ID: <1996Jan5.175806@genrad.co.uk> From: dongray@genrad.co.uk (Derek Dongray) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 96 17:58:06 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU We recently started getting a problem due to a change in our network connectivity. Up until a few weeks ago, most of our Internet mail came via a dial up connection from EUnet. Hence one most name servers nodes with the names *.genrad.co.uk should have MX records that point to britain.eu.net. Recently, we upgraded our transatlantic link so that it now handled IP traffic, so we effectively have a direct connection to Internet (via a firewall). We have had an internal name server for some time, and this now also interrogates an external name server. The problem that has started occurring recently, is that one of our alphas (cdaxp3.genrad.co.uk) has decided that, in order to route mail to another (cdaxp4.genrad.co.uk) which is physically 6 feet away from it and separated by one repeater, it should make a call to Britain.Eu.Net and send the mail halfway round the world! The following shows the SMTP log... 5-JAN-1996 17:50:56.81 Processing queue entry number 6 on node CDAXP3 5-JAN-1996 17:50:56.86 Recipient: , route=cdaxp4.genrad.co.uk 5-JAN-1996 17:50:56.86 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name cdaxp4.genrad.co.uk 5-JAN-1996 17:50:56.86 SMTP_SEND: DSN_MXLOOK status is 00000001 5-JAN-1996 17:50:56.96 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with ben.britain.eu.net [192.91.199.254] 5-JAN-1996 17:50:58.50 SMTP_SEND: Connected 5-JAN-1996 17:51:00.99 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 220 ben.Britain.EU.net PP Here - Pleased to meet you (Complaints/bugs to: postmaster@britain.eu.net) 5-JAN-1996 17:51:01.00 SMTP_SEND: Sent: HELO cdaxp3.genrad.co.uk 5-JAN-1996 17:51:05.16 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 ben.Britain.EU.net: You are bluffing - `132.223.124.214` expected 5-JAN-1996 17:51:05.16 SMTP_SEND: Sent: MAIL FROM: 5-JAN-1996 17:51:08.99 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 OK 5-JAN-1996 17:51:08.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: RCPT TO: 5-JAN-1996 17:51:10.75 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 Recipient OK. 5-JAN-1996 17:51:10.76 SMTP_SEND: Sent: DATA 5-JAN-1996 17:51:15.17 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 354 Enter Mail, end by a line with only '.' 5-JAN-1996 17:51:15.17 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: by cdclu1.genrad.co.uk (MX V4.1 AXP) id 5; Fri, 05 Jan 1996 17:50:56 5-JAN-1996 17:51:15.17 SMTP_SEND: Sent: +0100 (BST) 5-JAN-1996 17:51:15.17 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 17:50:55 +0100 (BST) 5-JAN-1996 17:51:15.17 SMTP_SEND: Sent: From: Derek Dongray 5-JAN-1996 17:51:15.17 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Reply-To: dongray@genrad.co.uk 5-JAN-1996 17:51:15.18 SMTP_SEND: Sent: To: dongray@cdaxp4.genrad.co.uk 5-JAN-1996 17:51:15.18 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Message-ID: <0099BF1E.D3C3284A.5@cdclu1.genrad.co.uk> 5-JAN-1996 17:51:15.18 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Subject: test 5-JAN-1996 17:51:15.18 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 5-JAN-1996 17:51:15.18 SMTP_SEND: Sent: msg 5-JAN-1996 17:51:15.18 SMTP_SEND: Sent: . 5-JAN-1996 17:51:15.18 SMTP_SEND: will wait 00:10:30.00 for reply. 5-JAN-1996 17:51:23.28 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 Submitted & queued (12/msg.13383-0) 5-JAN-1996 17:51:23.28 SMTP_SEND: Sent: QUIT 5-JAN-1996 17:51:27.40 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 221 ben.Britain.EU.net says goodbye to 132.223.124.214 at Fri Jan 5 17:51:18. 5-JAN-1996 17:51:27.45 Recipient status=00000001 for 5-JAN-1996 17:51:27.49 Entry now completely processed, no retries needed. 5-JAN-1996 17:51:27.52 *** End of processing pass *** So how do I tell the MX SMTP process to not to use the records returned from wherever it's getting them? Do I need to add local MX records to the local nameserver to supercede those that are being provided from who-knows-where (presumable nic.near.net)? Note that mail on the name server correctly goes directly to cdaxp4.genrad.co.uk! It is only cdaxp3 that has this problem! The local nameserver (and the alpha) are both running UCX 3.3. The version of MX is 4.1. -- Derek Dongray, Systems Manager, GenRad Ltd., Cheshire, UK. dongray@genrad.co.uk dongray@genrad.com 70374,2745 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 09:28:41 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: stone_l@eisner.decus.org (Larry Stone) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: Outbound SMTP mail stops - lack of logical Message-ID: <1996Jan8.101032.1@eisner.decus.org> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 15:10:32 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0099BED4.83F8DF80.37@fred.bridgew.edu>, Scott McNeilly writes: > From: Ferguson@uvii.mag.aramark.com (Linwood Ferguson) wrote: > >>I had a problem with outbound SMTP mail which I found and solved, but it makes >>me wonder if I have things set up right. > [snip] >>Is there anything I should have had configured, set, running, etc. that would >>have given me a clue something was going on other than just remembering to >>check the queue periodically? > >>PS. This is still 4.1. > In the [CONTRIB] directory of MX 4.2 there is a procedure called WATCHDOG.COM > which periodically checks to see if all MX processes are running. You might > want to use that. However, there may be no substitute for periodic checks > of the queue. I have found on a few occasions that the Router seemed to be > running (MCP STAT showed it as running, as well as SHOW SYSTEM), but in fact > it was doing nothing. When I tried to MCP SHUTDOWN all processes, every I think I had the problem over the weekend. Anyway, I have a daily batch job that uses the DECnet task object to do a MCP QUEUE SHOW on every system and mails the results to me. It runs a little before I get in each morning. Usually, there's nothing queued. If I see stuff queued, I check to see if it's transient (i.e. really in progress) or if I have a problem. -- Larry Stone | United Airlines VAX and HP-UX Systems Administrator | Maintenance Operations Center stone_l@eisner.decus.org | San Francisco, CA 415-634-4725 All opinions are mine, not United's. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 12:12:08 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 12:12:00 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099C14A.FA12E904.3@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: Confirmed bug in MX V4.2 DNSMTP support Thanks to Rich Hill, the first true MX V4.2 bug has been found and fixed. The MX DNSMTP (SMTP-Over-DECnet) fails in MX V4.2 because of a typo in the name of the DNSMTP_INFO file (the "_" is missing). Because this is such a minor bug, I didn't see a reason to issue a new MX release, so I've fixed this typo and updated the MX042.ZIP and MX042_SRC.ZIP files on ftp.wku.edu, ftp.spc.edu, and ftp.csus.edu. If you are using MX DNSMTP and want just the patch, look on ftp.wku.edu in [.MX.MX042.PATCH] for MX_DNSMTP.EXE and MX_DNSMTP.ALPHA_EXE. Sorry for the hassle! Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 06:11:43 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: From: "MIKE SMITH" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 08:06:50 AST Subject: Re: MX_LOCAL Process keeps dieing. Hello, It seems that since I deleted my old queue file and created a new one that things have become very stable again. Thank you to everyone who sent messages and gave me some suggestions that I did not think off. One again, thank you, Mike Micheal W. Smith Nova Scotia Department of Agriculture & Marketing Computer Services Officer Internet: MSMITH@Cadmin.NSAC.NS.CA Phone : (902) 893-6178 Fax : (902) 893-0335 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 12:13:03 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 13:10:54 EST From: Spencer Yost Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0099C21C.5EC56D00.12@ledger.co.forsyth.nc.us> Subject: Oper hold and 4.2 I need to impose on you good folks for some advice and troubleshooting help. I just installed MX 4.2 on my main routing vax and have a bit of a problem with decnet-smtp messages being delivered to the other vaxen. They originate via smtp_server. They are then routed, via the path declaratives, to the recipient vax using decnet-smtp. They are not being delivered and the status of these mail entries is ohold. I checked the documentation and could not find the ohold status mentioned anywhere. Specifically; here are all the relevant details that I can come up with: Upgraded from 4.1 to 4.2 to get the "digest" feature and fix the que corruption bugs. These entries never finish processing, as the creation date and modification date are the same. The dn-smtp processes are generating some i-os and cpu ticks; albeit slowly. The status is operhold with a que sh/full command (Ohold w/the que sh/all). I made no changes other than the upgrade. This type of mail was being succesfully delivered to the recipient machine for years before the upgrade. No changes had been made to the recipient machine and the recipient machine is running mx version 4.1 I then upgraded the recipient machine to 4.2 from 4.1 to try to remedy the problem. It did not help. Can anyone lend a hand that will help me get these messages on thier way? Thanks in advance! +================================+====================================+ | Spencer William Yost | Mis Department | | Vax/VMS Systems Manager | Forsyth County Government | | Yost@ledger.co.forsyth.nc.us | 200 N. Main St Room 603 | | | Hall Of Justice | | | Winston-Salem NC 27101 | +=====================================================================+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 12:21:25 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 12:21:15 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: YOST@LEDGER.CO.FORSYTH.NC.US Message-ID: <0099C215.6F73D643.33@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Oper hold and 4.2 Spencer Yost writes: > >I need to impose on you good folks for some advice and troubleshooting >help. I just installed MX 4.2 on my main routing vax and have a bit of a >problem with decnet-smtp messages being delivered to the other vaxen. You need the new DNSMTP patches, which I posted about Monday. Look on ftp.wku.edu in [.MX.MX042] for a new MX042.ZIP file and/or in [.MX.MX042.PATCHES] for new MX_DNSMTP .EXEs (linked under VAX/VMS V5.4 and OpenVMS AXP V1.5). Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 10:10:13 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 10:08:59 CDT From: "James T. Horn" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099C2CC.1FC40BAB.2876@SHSU.edu> Subject: Question on MX_FLQ_DEBUG log file Could someone let me know if this is a problem: 10-JAN-1996 10:03:07.48 %FLQ_CLUP_INIT, Getting timer values from FLQ logicals... 10-JAN-1996 10:03:07.57 MX_FLQ_CHECK_WAIT = 0 00:10:00.00 10-JAN-1996 10:03:07.57 MX_FLQ_PURGE_WAIT = 0 00:15:00.00 10-JAN-1996 10:03:07.57 MX_FLQ_FULL_PURGE_WAIT = 14 00:00:00.00 10-JAN-1996 10:03:07.57 %FLQ_CLUP_INIT, Searching for INPROG entries to READY or CANCEL 10-JAN-1996 10:03:28.94 %FLQ_CLUP_INIT, INPROG final FLQ_SEARCH status = 0001827A ------ Where the status shows: f$message(%x1827a) => %RMS-E-EOF, end of file detected ------------------------------------------------------------------------- James T. Horn /-\ Coordinator, VMS Systems / | \ Sam Houston State University / /|\ \ Internet : horn@Shsu.edu / / ^ \ \ http://oliver.shsu.edu/~horn/horn.html / / /,\ \ \ Something to think about: \ \ \`/ / / If at first you don't succeed, --------- let someone else have a chance. | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 10:19:56 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 10:19:04 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: HORN@SHSU.EDU Message-ID: <0099C2CD.8832CCC1.35@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Question on MX_FLQ_DEBUG log file "James T. Horn" writes: > >Could someone let me know if this is a problem: > [...] >Where the status shows: f$message(%x1827a) => %RMS-E-EOF, end of file detected > No, that's not a problem. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 11:23:09 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: Graham Walmsley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: UK location for FTPing MX042.ZIP Message-ID: <30F3A5DC.7605@upmarket.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 11:41:16 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Does anybody know of a UK site that holds a copy of MX042.ZIP. I know that ftp.kcl.ac.uk hold MX but it is in VMSSHARE format. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Graham Walmsley Upmarket Systems Limited ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 04:30:34 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 10:27:45 GMT From: Andy Harper - KCL Systems manager Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: A.HARPER@kcl.ac.uk Message-ID: <0099C397.E918359C.551@alder.cc.kcl.ac.uk> Subject: RE: UK location for FTPing MX042.ZIP >Does anybody know of a UK site that holds a copy of MX042.ZIP. I know that >ftp.kcl.ac.uk hold MX but it is in VMSSHARE format. Well this is still FTP'able and useable. However, if you don't like it, try this: ftp:://nic.switch.ch/mirror/vms/spc/mx/mx042/mx042.zip This is reasonably fast from the UK Andy Harper Kings College London ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 05:33:14 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: system@gd2068.unibe.ch (Martin Egger, IK32) Subject: Re: UK location for FTPing MX042.ZIP Date: 11 Jan 1996 07:28:10 GMT Message-ID: <4d2e6b$2ee@scsing.switch.ch> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <30F3A5DC.7605@upmarket.co.uk>, Graham Walmsley writes: >Does anybody know of a UK site that holds a copy of MX042.ZIP. I know that >ftp.kcl.ac.uk hold MX but it is in VMSSHARE format. Switzerland is not UK, but Europe at least: ftp://ftp.switch.ch/mirror/vms/spc/mx/mx042/mx042.zip Martin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Martin Egger Phone: +41 (0)31 338 05 81 Informatik Telecom PTT, Sekt. IK 32 Fax: +41 (0)31 338 55 69 Poststrasse 6, CH-3030 Bern eMail: egma1@gd2.swissptt.ch Switzerland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 07:56:02 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Problems with V4.2 (DNS lookups) Message-ID: <1996Jan11.141553.12595@turkey.hadassah.org.il> From: najman@turkey.hadassah.org.il (Hadassah University Hospital. Jerusalem, Israel) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Date: 11 Jan 96 14:15:53 +0200 To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hi. I upgraded to V4.2 on our 2-node cluster. Since the upgrade, I am experiencing many problems with outgoing mail (SMTP process). After a lot of tracing, I have narrowed it down to DNS translation failure. 1) If both nodes are up and running MX, all DNS lookups fail. 2) If only one node is up (the one that manages the q), I get "strings" of 4,5 successful lookups, followed by 2,3 failures. Many of the successes are lookups which failed before. 3) this is true also whithin my closed domain. Before I comit my self to retro-grade to good 'ole 4.1, does anyone have any suggestions ???? I use CMU/IP, and have used 4.1 without any problems for years. Thank you -- +--------+------------------+------------------------------+---------------+ ! NAJMAN KAHANA ! Hadassah University Hospital ! thanks, ! ! Najman@hadassah.org.il ! Jerusalem, Israel ! we have our ! ! ! (visit our capital soon) ! own viruses ! +--------+------------------+------------------------------+---------------+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 08:29:29 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: daveh@vax.oxford.ac.uk (Dave Hastings, OUCS) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re-entering messages in the queue file? Date: 11 Jan 96 13:50:45 GMT Message-ID: <1996Jan11.135045@oxvaxd> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hi, A system I look after has somehow managed to get itself into the situation of having lots of files in its [MX.QUEUE...] directories which do not appear in the queue file. I don't know how this happened! Is there any way of re-entering the files into the queue? Thanks, Dave -- David Hastings | "If liberty means anything at all, Systems Programmer/News Manager | it means the right to tell people Oxford University Computing Services | what they do not want to hear" email: david.hastings@oucs.ox.ac.uk | - George Orwell homepage http://info.ox.ac.uk/~daveh/ | ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 10:36:33 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 10:35:48 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099C399.08EB54CF.6@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Re-entering messages in the queue file? daveh@vax.oxford.ac.uk (Dave Hastings, OUCS) writes: > >Hi, > >A system I look after has somehow managed to get itself into the situation of >having lots of files in its [MX.QUEUE...] directories which do not appear in >the queue file. I don't know how this happened! Is there any way of re-entering >the files into the queue? > You can try using MX_REFEED in the [CONTRIB] directory for MX V4.2. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 10:37:40 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 10:36:54 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099C399.30640B3C.8@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Problems with V4.2 (DNS lookups) najman@turkey.hadassah.org.il (Hadassah University Hospital. writes: > >Hi. > I upgraded to V4.2 on our 2-node cluster. > Since the upgrade, I am experiencing many problems with outgoing >mail (SMTP process). > After a lot of tracing, I have narrowed it down to DNS translation >failure. MX V4.2 includes NETLIB V2.0i, which is probably why you're seeing problems now. However, I am not aware of any problems with V2.0i and CMU/IP. Perhaps some CMU users can help? Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 11:59:06 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: agreig@river.tay.ac.uk (Alan Greig) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: UK location for FTPing MX042.ZIP Message-ID: <1996Jan11.164846.23463@river.tay.ac.uk> Date: 11 Jan 96 16:48:46 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <30F3A5DC.7605@upmarket.co.uk>, Graham Walmsley writes: > Does anybody know of a UK site that holds a copy of MX042.ZIP. I know that > ftp.kcl.ac.uk hold MX but it is in VMSSHARE format. Now updated on ftp.tay.ac.uk in [anonymous.pub.vms.madgoat]mx042* -- Alan Greig Tel: (01382) 308802 University of Abertay Dundee Email: A.Greig@tay.ac.uk ** Never underestimate the power of human stupidity ** ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 16:01:49 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: How to stop/fix DSN MX lookups for local nodes? Date: 11 Jan 1996 21:59:01 GMT Message-ID: <4d4175$44e@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <1996Jan5.175806@genrad.co.uk>, dongray@genrad.co.uk (Derek Dongray) writes: = =We recently started getting a problem due to a change in our network =connectivity. Up until a few weeks ago, most of our Internet mail came =via a dial up connection from EUnet. Hence one most name servers nodes =with the names *.genrad.co.uk should have MX records that point to =britain.eu.net. Recently, we upgraded our transatlantic link so that =it now handled IP traffic, so we effectively have a direct connection =to Internet (via a firewall). We have had an internal name server for =some time, and this now also interrogates an external name server. = =The problem that has started occurring recently, is that one of our alphas =(cdaxp3.genrad.co.uk) has decided that, in order to route mail to another =(cdaxp4.genrad.co.uk) which is physically 6 feet away from it and separated =by one repeater, it should make a call to Britain.Eu.Net and send the mail =halfway round the world! =So how do I tell the MX SMTP process to not to use the records returned =from wherever it's getting them? Do I need to add local MX records to the =local nameserver to supercede those that are being provided from =who-knows-where (presumable nic.near.net)? = =Note that mail on the name server correctly goes directly to =cdaxp4.genrad.co.uk! It is only cdaxp3 that has this problem! = =The local nameserver (and the alpha) are both running UCX 3.3. The version =of MX is 4.1. I'm not sure, but if I recall correctly, what you want to do is add a new set of MX records for your machines, making themselves mail exchangers for themselves at a higher priority than your real mail exchanger. From the inside, your systems will first try sending mail to the machine itself, and will succeed. From the outside, someone trying to send mail will first try sending directly to the machine, and when it can't connect to it, will fall back to your real mail exchanger. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 20:45:20 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 21:22:05 EST From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099C3F3.519DDDA0.1@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: Problems with V4.2 (DNS lookups) Hunter Goatley (goathunter@loki.com) writes: >MX V4.2 includes NETLIB V2.0i, which is probably why you're seeing >problems now. However, I am not aware of any problems with V2.0i and >CMU/IP. Perhaps some CMU users can help? I've been running NETLIB V2.0I for a couple of months now (I got it from Matt before it was generally released). It works fine with CMUIP and MX V4.1 (and SOCKETSHR, Mosaic, MadGoat FTP). -----------------------------+-------------------------------- Brian Tillman | Internet: tillman@swdev.si.com Smiths Industries, Inc. | tillman_brian@si.com 4141 Eastern Ave., MS239 | Hey, I said this stuff myself. Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 17:34:54 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 16:33:25 MST From: Curtis Rempel - System Manager (2657) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099C55D.52EEAAF2.1473@hg.uleth.ca> Subject: %MX-F-NODNSRESPONSE As of late, all of our systems that run MX mail, both VAX and Alpha, have been having major delays with outgoing mail. Almost all of the messages report the last error as %MX-F-NODNSRESPONSE Now, I believe we have been having trouble with our DNS machine but it's been quite hard to reproduce these errors. That is, if I try a few times, I can generally telnet to the SMTP port of the machine that one of the affected messages is destined for. However, MCP QUE SHOW entry /FULL reports only 1 error, %MX-F-NODNSRESPONSE, even though it appears that the messages are routinely being retried and they should eventually get through, but they continue to pile up. I do know that some mail is very slowing trickling out (as evidenced by this message). My question is this: should the error count be increasing with each failed DNS error or not? I've got a ton of mail that appears to be just sitting there, every message with 1 single error on it. It's almost like it got the %MX-F-NODNSRESPONSE status and then gave up, yet it appears to be retrying (i.e. Retrying #xxxx with MCP STATUS). I've had MX running fine with very very few problems over the past several years and nothing has changed in the MX configuration. I'm currently running MX V4.1 on OpenVMS VAX V6.1/V6.2 and OpenVMS AXP V6.2 using MultiNet V3.5A. Even though our DNS machine seems to be sporadic, shouldn't these messages eventually get through (late of course) and why does the error count stay at 1? I have two independent systems that are behaving this way which use the same DNS server. Any tips/pointers/clues on this? Thanks! Curt --- Curtis Rempel Internet: REMPEL@HG.ULETH.CA OpenVMS Systems Manager The University of Lethbridge ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 19:19:51 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 20:05:03 -0500 To: jennie@uni.liverpool.ac.uk From: jennie@uni.liverpool.ac.uk, steinling@rentwes.org.uk, chiu@otego.ac.uk, ronnie@jhg.co.uk, ellen@tci.co.uk, samuels@uni.london.ac.uk, chen@birmingham.org.uk, chi@manchester.co.uk, wind@rfg1.co.uk, susans@uni.rhodes.ac.uk, gregor@southampt.n.org.uk, ellen@plymouth.ac.uk, gfos@fresno.co.uk, trens@uni.london.ac.uk, jim@uni.london.ac.uk, fharile@plymouth.org.uk, relson@childs.co.uk, nels@hall.co.uk, sarap@ruv4.co.uk, gspelling@earthlite.co.uk (Association of International Students, Executive Board of Directors, UK Chapter) Subject: ===>> FREE 1 yr. 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Thank you. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 21:50:45 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: rempel@hg.uleth.ca (Curtis Rempel - System Manager (2657)) Subject: Re: Problems with V4.2 (DNS lookups) Date: 14 Jan 1996 01:33:18 GMT Message-ID: <4d9mgu$6qa@holly.cc.uleth.ca> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <1996Jan11.141553.12595@turkey.hadassah.org.il>, najman@turkey.hadassah.org.il (Hadassah University Hospital. Jerusalem, Israel) writes: >Hi. > I upgraded to V4.2 on our 2-node cluster. > Since the upgrade, I am experiencing many problems with outgoing >mail (SMTP process). > After a lot of tracing, I have narrowed it down to DNS translation >failure. > 1) If both nodes are up and running MX, all DNS lookups fail. > 2) If only one node is up (the one that manages the q), I get "strings" >of 4,5 successful lookups, followed by 2,3 failures. Many of the successes >are lookups which failed before. > 3) this is true also whithin my closed domain. > > Before I comit my self to retro-grade to good 'ole 4.1, does anyone >have any suggestions ???? > > I use CMU/IP, and have used 4.1 without any problems for years. > > >Thank you > >-- > >+--------+------------------+------------------------------+---------------+ >! NAJMAN KAHANA ! Hadassah University Hospital ! thanks, ! >! Najman@hadassah.org.il ! Jerusalem, Israel ! we have our ! >! ! (visit our capital soon) ! own viruses ! >+--------+------------------+------------------------------+---------------+ Hmmm... oddly enough I've had the same problem happen to me but I am running V4.1 and the only thing that has changed on me lately is an upgrade of MultiNet from V3.4B to V3.5A - I wonder if it might be MultiNet? What version are you running? Curt ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 09:17:29 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 08:14:07 MST From: Curtis Rempel - System Manager (2657) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: najman@hadassah.org.il CC: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099C5E0.BD3DF123.2592@hg.uleth.ca> Subject: Re: Problems with V4.2 (DNS lookups) >>Subj: Re: Problems with V4.2 (DNS lookups) >> >>Hmmm... oddly enough I've had the same problem happen to me but I am running >>V4.1 and the only thing that has changed on me lately is an upgrade of MultiNet >>from V3.4B to V3.5A - I wonder if it might be MultiNet? What version are you >>running? >> >>Curt >> >>--- > >Hi. > Weeelll. On this particular computer I do not use Multinet. I am >using CMU/IP. Oops, sorry. I didn't read the original posting carefully. You may start hurling rotten vegetables now... ;-) > But, after more research, I am also inclined to blame the name resolver >component of the CMU, which would absolve the MX. > > frankly, I am still confused. If you find out anything, please update >me, and I'll do the same. > >Thanks > >Najman > >+--------+------------------+------------------------------+---------------+ >! NAJMAN KAHANA ! Hadassah University Hospital ! thanks, ! >! Najman@hadassah.org.il ! Jerusalem, Israel ! we have our ! >! ! (visit our capital soon) ! own viruses ! >+--------+------------------+------------------------------+---------------+ Yes, I certainly will. We have DNS running on an Alpha OSF/1 box but our UNIX guy has left town and nobody around here knows anything about it. We've opened a call to Digital so hopefully they will be able to shed some light on it. Curt --- Curtis Rempel Internet: REMPEL@HG.ULETH.CA OpenVMS Systems Manager The University of Lethbridge ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 06:45:41 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: %MX-F-NODNSRESPONSE Date: 15 Jan 1996 23:10:10 GMT Message-ID: <4demsi$kva@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0099C55D.52EEAAF2.1473@hg.uleth.ca>, Curtis Rempel - System Manager (2657) writes: #Even though our DNS machine seems to be sporadic, shouldn't these #messages eventually get through (late of course) and why does the #error count stay at 1? There was (only) one DNS failure. I'd recommend configuring your system to be its own nameserver, by doing: $ MULTINET CONFIGURE > SET DOMAIN-NAMESERVER 127.0.0.1 > EXIT and either reboot, or, to make the change take effect immediately, type: $ DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXECUTIVE MULTINET_NAMESERVERS "127.0.0.1" $ REPLY/ENABLE=NETWORK $ @MULTINET:START_SERVER this will reduce your reliance on your nameserver, speed DNS queries, and reduce the network load between your system and your nameserver, and reduce the CPU load on the nameserver. Overall, it's a great thing! If you're behind a firewall which prevents your system from talking to/from UDP port 53 with systems on the Internet, you'll need to add lines like: forwarders *** slave Where "***" is replaced with the IP address of your nameserver that can talk to nameservers on the Internet. -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 08:37:26 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: MERTUS@brownvm.brown.edu () Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: INTERNET_HOST_NAME, HELP Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 06:54:19 EST Message-ID: <4dg3q3$h1s@cocoa.brown.edu> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I have the same problem as a previous post MX_SMTP has stopped running. The problems seems that I removeed the local host name in UCX (by accident) I then put it back in, reinstalled UCX, reinstalled MX 4.1, but the error continues. From the last post, INTERNET_HOST_NAME is not being defined, but where is it set. UCX? I'm runing UCX 3.2. -John_Mertus@Brown.EDU Thanks for any help ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 08:37:33 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: mikeb@radonc.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: MLF 4.2 dieing w/access violation Date: Mon, 15 Jan 96 11:19:04 +700 Message-ID: <4de9cs$dkb@mark.ucdavis.edu> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Since I upgraded to MX 4.2 6 days ago, I've had MLF die on me three times with an access violation. I've just enabled MX_MLF_DEBUG, but I wonder if anyone else has seen this. I running a pretty busy (20-40 messages/day) 1600 user mailing list (though 3/4 are on the digest). Thanks Mike =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael Bowers Internet: mikeb@radonc.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu University of California, Davis ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 08:40:23 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 08:39:56 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099C776.AD8F8F4C.13@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: %MX-F-NODNSRESPONSE Curtis Rempel - System Manager (2657) writes: > >My question is this: should the error count be increasing with each failed >DNS error or not? I've got a ton of mail that appears to be just sitting >there, every message with 1 single error on it. It's almost like it got >the %MX-F-NODNSRESPONSE status and then gave up, yet it appears to be >retrying (i.e. Retrying #xxxx with MCP STATUS). > >I've had MX running fine with very very few problems over the past several >years and nothing has changed in the MX configuration. I'm currently >running MX V4.1 on OpenVMS VAX V6.1/V6.2 and OpenVMS AXP V6.2 using >MultiNet V3.5A. > >Even though our DNS machine seems to be sporadic, shouldn't these >messages eventually get through (late of course) and why does the >error count stay at 1? > As an addendum to Dan's message, MX V4.1 did *not* increment the DNS error counter when the error was "no response" (as opposed to a negative response). The idea was that most DNS server response failures would mean that you were temporarily cut off from the Internet, or that your DNS server was down, etc., and the messages shouldn't time out as quickly as if they were getting "no such host." This was intended behavior, but I decided that it was the wrong thing to do, so MX V4.2 now increments the DNS error counter again for all DNS errors. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 08:43:53 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 08:43:25 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: MIKEB@RADONC.UCDMC.UCDAVIS.EDU Message-ID: <0099C777.29E6BF8E.25@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MLF 4.2 dieing w/access violation mikeb@radonc.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu writes: > >Since I upgraded to MX 4.2 6 days ago, I've had MLF die on me three times >with an access violation. I've just enabled MX_MLF_DEBUG, but I wonder >if anyone else has seen this. I running a pretty busy (20-40 messages/day) >1600 user mailing list (though 3/4 are on the digest). > There does indeed appear to be a problem with MX MLF, but I've not yet been able to track it down. I'll post here as soon as I do. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 09:42:55 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 09:42:52 CST From: hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@madgoat.com Message-ID: <0099C77F.77C97A4F.31@uwwvax.uww.edu> Subject: SMTP terminating Since I installed 4.2, SMTP terminates with the messages below: 15-JAN-1996 06:44:06.92: MX SMTP#6 (pid 0000A836) starting 16-JAN-1996 00:53:04.19: MX SMTP#6 (pid 0000A836) exiting, status = 1000000C 1000000C => %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=!XB, virtual address=!XL, PC=!XL, PS=!XL The first ends after about 24 hours, and then 1 at a time over a long period. I have rebuilt the queue and directories in [mx.queue] and decreased the number of smtp processes, without affecting the problem. Running Multinet on an alpha. Lyle Hunter Computer Center University Wisconsin-Whitewater hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 18:59:09 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 17:51:52 MST From: Curtis Rempel - System Manager (2657) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099C7C3.C7BE31CD.1572@hg.uleth.ca> Subject: RE: %MX-F-NODNSRESPONSE >Curtis Rempel - System Manager (2657) writes: >> >>My question is this: should the error count be increasing with each failed >>DNS error or not? I've got a ton of mail that appears to be just sitting >>there, every message with 1 single error on it. It's almost like it got >>the %MX-F-NODNSRESPONSE status and then gave up, yet it appears to be >>retrying (i.e. Retrying #xxxx with MCP STATUS). >> >>I've had MX running fine with very very few problems over the past several >>years and nothing has changed in the MX configuration. I'm currently >>running MX V4.1 on OpenVMS VAX V6.1/V6.2 and OpenVMS AXP V6.2 using >>MultiNet V3.5A. >> >>Even though our DNS machine seems to be sporadic, shouldn't these >>messages eventually get through (late of course) and why does the >>error count stay at 1? >> > >As an addendum to Dan's message, MX V4.1 did *not* increment the DNS >error counter when the error was "no response" (as opposed to a >negative response). The idea was that most DNS server response >failures would mean that you were temporarily cut off from the >Internet, or that your DNS server was down, etc., and the messages >shouldn't time out as quickly as if they were getting "no such host." >This was intended behavior, but I decided that it was the wrong thing >to do, so MX V4.2 now increments the DNS error counter again for all >DNS errors. > >Hunter >------ >Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. > Oh good. And I thought I was losing my mind... ;-) Everything makes sense now, thanks Hunter! Curtis --- Curtis Rempel Internet: REMPEL@HG.ULETH.CA OpenVMS Systems Manager The University of Lethbridge ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 05:48:06 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:34:56 GMT From: Andy Harper - KCL Systems manager Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@madgoat.com CC: A.HARPER@kcl.ac.uk Message-ID: <0099C858.4A5CA8C8.188@alder.cc.kcl.ac.uk> Subject: MX LOCAL dying again Well, I'm running the new improved MX 4.2, have all MAIL memory leak patches installed and increased the quotas on the MX process to much higher values but still MX LOCAL crashes with the following: %LIB-F-INSVIRMEM, insufficient virtual memory %TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows module name routine name line rel PC abs PC ERROR OPEN_ERROR_FILE 445 00000089 00005AB2 ERROR DELIVERY_ERROR 239 0000002F 0000573C DELIVER MAIL_TO_RECIPIENTS 1103 00000306 000070D7 DELIVER DELIVER 709 000009A0 00006B1E PROCESS PROCESS 382 0000064E 00003FC7 MX_LOCAL MX_LOCAL 31 000003D0 00002DD4 This is running on VMS 5.5-2H4 with netlib 2.0I and Multinet 3.5. Any offers of a solution greatly appreciated. MX 4.2 seems to have fixed all the other problems though MX local is the only server process to keep dying on me. Andy Harper Kings College London ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 06:09:16 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:34:56 GMT From: Andy Harper - KCL Systems manager Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@madgoat.com CC: A.HARPER@kcl.ac.uk Message-ID: <0099C858.4A5CA8C8.188@alder.cc.kcl.ac.uk> Subject: MX LOCAL dying again Well, I'm running the new improved MX 4.2, have all MAIL memory leak patches installed and increased the quotas on the MX process to much higher values but still MX LOCAL crashes with the following: %LIB-F-INSVIRMEM, insufficient virtual memory %TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows module name routine name line rel PC abs PC ERROR OPEN_ERROR_FILE 445 00000089 00005AB2 ERROR DELIVERY_ERROR 239 0000002F 0000573C DELIVER MAIL_TO_RECIPIENTS 1103 00000306 000070D7 DELIVER DELIVER 709 000009A0 00006B1E PROCESS PROCESS 382 0000064E 00003FC7 MX_LOCAL MX_LOCAL 31 000003D0 00002DD4 This is running on VMS 5.5-2H4 with netlib 2.0I and Multinet 3.5. Any offers of a solution greatly appreciated. MX 4.2 seems to have fixed all the other problems though MX local is the only server process to keep dying on me. Andy Harper Kings College London ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:56:10 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: hlaufman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harry B Laufman) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: No such host error, retry count exceeded Date: 17 Jan 1996 18:31:35 GMT Message-ID: <4djfa7$arc@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hello, VAX 4300, VMS 5.4.3, Multinet 3.2, Mx 4.1. We recently tried pointing Multinet Domain-Nameserver at a Mac SE/30 running DNS-Lite name server cacher, rather than our usual campus name server. We are getting occassional returned mail from MX Mailing lists with Error code 2: No such host, retry count exceeded error. But the hosts referenced do exist, and are up and running (most recently they are OSU.EDU and IDEA.AG.UIUC.edu). OSU.EDU is Ohio State's central mail handler. Page MCP-60 of the MX 4.1 documentation, DNS_Retries section, says "Certain types of domain server failures can cause MX to believe a host name is invalid..." Could we be running into this? Could DNS-Lite be returning an message that MX mis-interprets as "no such host"? And, what type of name-server failures does MX mis-interpret? Our DNS-Retries is set to 12. Thanks for any comments. Harry ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 16:01:28 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 10:57:23 -0800 From: "Barry.Winter" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Received MIME messages Message-ID: <96Jan17.140205pst.39685@ocnet.co.orange.ca.us> One of my users received several messages similar to the following message. What can I do to decode this message. The message is received in ALL-IN1 (VMS mail is set to forward into ALL-IN-1) I've exported the file from ALL-IN-1 and tried the following. 1) UUdecode Returns error - no "begin" line 2) MX_decode when run against the original file or one with the headers removed it exits with no error message and no output file created. I've tried various combinations of removing all human readable lines and blank links with the same results, except one instance where I remove the last blank line then it returns the error "end of file detected" We are using MX 4.1. --------Start of message ---------- I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M Date: 16-Jan-1996 03:52pm PST From: MX%"hegdus@ns.net" MX%"hegdus@ns.net"@MRGATE@EMA Dept: Tel No: TO: SHARIFIANA@A1 Subject: Revised Santa Ana River RAS Files This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -----------------------------303812796915401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attached is the .f01 file. File 2 of 8 -----------------------------303812796915401 Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="SAN.F01" RmxvdyBUaXRsZT1TQU5UQSBBTkEgUklWRVIgRVhJU1RJTkcNCk51bWJlciBvZiBGbG93cyBh bmQgUHJvZmlsZXMgYW5kIEJvdW5kYXJ5PSAzLCAxLCAxDQpSY2ggJiBSTT1TQU5UQSBBTkEg ICAsNjQyMDANCiAgIDQxMDAwDQpSY2ggJiBSTT1TQU5UQSBBTkEgICAsNTY2MzANCiAgIDQ3 MDAwDQpSY2ggJiBSTT1TQU5UQSBBTkEgICAsNzY0MA0KICAgNDcwMDANCkJvdW5kYXJ5IGZv ciBSY2ggJiBQcm9mIz1TQU5UQSBBTkEgICAsIDENClVwIFR5cGU9IDENClVwIFZhbHVlPTE0 MA0KRG4gVHlwZT0gMQ0KRG4gVmFsdWU9NC4yAAo= -----------------------------303812796915401-- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: <@ocnet.co.orange.ca.us:hegdus@ns.net> Received: from EMADNS (EMADNS::SYSTEM) by EMA5 (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP (DECnet); Tue, 16 Jan 1996 15:51:30 EST Received: from co.orange.ca.us by emadns.ema.co.orange.ca.us (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 15:51:20 EST Received: from eagle.ns.net ([204.75.146.20]) by ocnet.co.orange.ca.us with SMTP id <39684>; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 15:55:50 -0800 Received: from ppp30.ns.net (ppp30.ns.net [204.119.240.70]) by eagle.ns.net (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA02989 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 15:51:17 -0800 Message-ID: <30FC3993.ACC@ns.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 15:49:39 -0800 From: Pal Hegedus X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sharifiana@EMA.CO.ORANGE.CA.US Subject: Revised Santa Ana River RAS Files X-URL: http://home.netscape.com/ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---------------------------303812796915401" ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 16:21:47 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 17:19:05 EST From: Scott McNeilly Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099C888.5E357700.89@fred.bridgew.edu> Subject: RE: INTERNET_HOST_NAME, HELP MERTUS@brownvm.brown.edu wrote: > I have the same problem as a previous post MX_SMTP has stopped running. >The problems seems that I removeed the local host name in UCX (by accident) >I then put it back in, reinstalled UCX, reinstalled MX 4.1, but the >error continues. > From the last post, INTERNET_HOST_NAME is not being defined, but >where is it set. UCX? I'm runing UCX 3.2. > >-John_Mertus@Brown.EDU > >Thanks for any help UCX logicals are generally preceded by "UCX$", e.g. "UCX$INET_HOST". MX logicals are generally preceded by "MX_", e.g. "MX_NODE_NAME". If the logical name you are concerned about is defined in UCX, then probably you need to run @SYS$MANAGER:UCX$CONFIG.COM. In the CORE setup, under INTERFACES, you will be prompted for host name (among other things.) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@bridgew.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 08:45:13 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 09:14:30 EST From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099C90D.D67E7560.12@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: INTERNET_HOST_NAME, HELP MERTUS@brownvm.brown.edu wrote: > I have the same problem as a previous post MX_SMTP has stopped running. >The problems seems that I removeed the local host name in UCX (by accident) >I then put it back in, reinstalled UCX, reinstalled MX 4.1, but the >error continues. > From the last post, INTERNET_HOST_NAME is not being defined, but >where is it set. UCX? I'm runing UCX 3.2. INTERNET_HOST_NAME is the logical name used by CMUIP to designate the local host name. UCX uses UCX$INET_HOST. This logical name is automatically created by UCX when it starts based on information in the UCX$HOSTS table. If you use UCX$CONFIG correctly, you won't have a problem. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 08:57:05 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 09:55:34 EST From: Eric Ebinger Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: ebinger@vax6.drc.com Message-ID: <0099C913.930BFD08.8@vax6.drc.com> Subject: RE: Received MIME messages You need to use a base64 decoder to convert it. There is at least one available for VMS (base64_decode.c). Eric Ebinger ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 09:37:56 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 09:37:31 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099C911.0DC84C5A.19@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Received MIME messages Eric Ebinger writes: > >You need to use a base64 decoder to convert it. There is at least one >available for VMS (base64_decode.c). > The other thing you can do is EXTRACT the message to an external file and use MX_DECODE to decode it. MX_DECODE expects it to have specific RFC-822 headers at the beginning of the file. The easiest way to get the proper headers is to SEND/FOREIGN a similar file to yourself (if it's a binary file you're trying to decode, then mail a .EXE file to yourself) via MX and use an editor to copy the RFC822 headers from that message to the external file containing the file to decode. For example, the following lines in the file, followed by a blank line, followed by the base64-encoded text, would be decoded by MX_DECODE: ---------------------------------------- MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-Type: APPLICATION/VMS-RMS; VMS-FDL="SYSTEM; SOURCE VAX/VMS;;FILE; ALLOCATION 9; BEST_TRY_CONTIGUOUS yes; BUCKET_SIZE 0; CONTIGUOUS no; DEFERRED_WRITE no; EXTENSION 0; GLOBAL_BUFFER_COUNT 0; MT_BLOCK_SIZE 512; MAX_RECORD_NUMBER 0; MAXIMIZE_VERSION no; ORGANIZATION sequential; READ_CHECK no; SUPERSEDE no; WRITE_CHECK no;;RECORD; BLOCK_SPAN yes; CARRIAGE_CONTROL none; CONTROL_FIELD_SIZE 0; FORMAT fixed; SIZE 512;;AREA 0; ALLOCATION 9; BEST_TRY_CONTIGUOUS yes; BUCKET_SIZE 0; CONTIGUOUS no; EXACT_POSITIONING no; EXTENSION 0; POSITION none; VOLUME 0;" AwAAAAAAAABMAgAAIAEAAGgAAACYAAAAuAAAAAAAAAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA etc. ---------------------------------------- Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7.3 The MX_DECODE Utility The MX_DECODE utility will decode MIME-compliant mail messages with contents specified as ``APPLICATION/VMS- RMS'' and encoded using BASE64 encoding. This is the format used by MX when the VMS Mail command SEND/FOREIGN is given. The MX Local agent automatically decodes such messages when they are received. MX_DECODE is provided for use with the MX Site agent, so that messages destined for MX Site may sent using SEND/FOREIGN. MX_DECODE should be executed using a foreign command: $ MX_DECODE :== $MX_EXE:MX_DECODE.EXE $ MX_DECODE MAIL_MESSAGE.BASE64 XYZ.xxx It accepts two required parameters: the input file and the output file. In order to decode the file properly, the input file must include the MIME RFC822 headers before the encoded body. The headers are used only to find the stored VMS file attributes. The resulting decoded output file will retain all of the VMS file attributes of the original file. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 00:40:44 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: David Hernandez Alonso Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Problems with memory leak Date: 18 Jan 1996 14:53:19 GMT Message-ID: <4dlmsv$l0o@rs1.dsi.uanl.mx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hi ! ! I am suffering with mi machine. Help me, please! I have a Micro Vax 3100-80 with 48 MB Ram, VMS 6.2, UCX 3.3 and MX 4.2 The problem is that something are allocating memory and dont free it! I receive the nexts messages of error when i try to log to another system: $ telnet qweqw.weeq.ewe Telnet-e-ineterror Internet interface error Telnet-i-inetcall, socket() system-f-insfmem, insufficient dynamic $ ftp wewq.qwee.wewq ftp-e-crsock, error creating a socket. And nobody cant login into my machine. The users that are already logged, dont have problems, until they logon, they cant login again. The solution is shutdown and restart UCX! But its happen every 2 days.!! I was reading that MX 4.2 have the next bug: ++++++++ The VMS callable MAIL routines do not properly release all the virtual memory that they allocate. This VMS bug can eventually cause the MX Local agent to exit with an ``Insufficient virtual memory'' error or go into an infinite loop. The chances of the bug causing problems depend greatly on the number of messages processed by MX Local and your system configuration. This bug in callable MAIL has been acknowledged by Digital in a DSNlink article. It has ``been reported to VMS Engineering.'' ++++++++ I want to know if this are the problem. And what i was to make to resolve this problem. This problem it was presenting about 2 weeks, and I install MX 4.2 on December 15th 1995. I install VMS 6.2 on August 1995 and i dont experience this kind of problems. Thanks in advance, and please, sorry for my English. David A. Hernandez Alonso dhernand@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 00:40:58 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: No such host error, retry count exceeded Message-ID: <4djfa7$arc@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> From: hlaufman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harry B Laufman) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Date: 17 Jan 1996 18:31:35 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hello, VAX 4300, VMS 5.4.3, Multinet 3.2, Mx 4.1. We recently tried pointing Multinet Domain-Nameserver at a Mac SE/30 running DNS-Lite name server cacher, rather than our usual campus name server. We are getting occassional returned mail from MX Mailing lists with Error code 2: No such host, retry count exceeded error. But the hosts referenced do exist, and are up and running (most recently they are OSU.EDU and IDEA.AG.UIUC.edu). OSU.EDU is Ohio State's central mail handler. Page MCP-60 of the MX 4.1 documentation, DNS_Retries section, says "Certain types of domain server failures can cause MX to believe a host name is invalid..." Could we be running into this? Could DNS-Lite be returning an message that MX mis-interprets as "no such host"? And, what type of name-server failures does MX mis-interpret? Our DNS-Retries is set to 12. Thanks for any comments. Harry ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 07:38:29 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 08:37:04 EST From: Scott McNeilly Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099C9D1.C5E69060.46@fred.bridgew.edu> Subject: RE: Problems with memory leak David Hernandez Alonso wrote: >I receive the nexts messages of error when i try to log to another >system: > >$ telnet qweqw.weeq.ewe > Telnet-e-ineterror Internet interface error > Telnet-i-inetcall, socket() > system-f-insfmem, insufficient dynamic > >$ ftp wewq.qwee.wewq > ftp-e-crsock, error creating a socket. > >And nobody cant login into my machine. You need to go into UCX and SHOW COMM. It will show you the number of device sockets available. You must increase the number of device sockets. Do this with the command SET COMM/DEVICE_SOCKETS=n. While you are looking at the display from SHOW COMM, you should also check the Peak usage of Interfaces and Services. If the peak usage is at or near the maximum, you should increase those, too. To make the change permanent, use the command SET CONFIG COMM/DEVICE_SOCKETS. While it does not appear to be a problem for you, check the maximum number of Small Buffers. Then use SHOW COMM/MEM to see the usage of Small Buffers. I have occasionally run out of Small Buffers. It will not take you long to check, and it may help avoid a problem later. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@bridgew.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 11:17:54 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 10:17:45 MST From: System Manager Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099C9DF.D6EEE200.40@upanet.uleth.ca> Subject: SMTP server constantly ACCVIO's I'm running OpenVMS VAX/AXP V6.2 with MX V4.1 and MultiNet V3.5A Recently, after some DNS troubles, our MX queue got quite snarled up and mail was taking upwards of 10 to 12 hours to be delivered. So, to clear up this message, I decided to shut down MX, delete the queue file, and any other files in the 0-9 directories and start fresh (yes I know I lost some stuff but it was decided to turf it anyway). So I started up MX last night and everything was running just fine but this morning I see the SMTP server has died. I tried restarting it several times but keep getting: 19-JAN-1996 09:44:22.98: MX SMTP Server (pid 21C0265A) starting 19-JAN-1996 09:45:08.69: MX SMTP Server (pid 21C0265A) exiting, status = 100000 C in the SMTP_SERVER.LOG file (ACCVIO). ACC/ID=21C0265A confirms this. I have no idea what is causing this and simply restarting the SMTP server doesn't seem to help, it merrily goes along for a few minutes (maybe) and then commits suicide again. Anybody seen this or have any ideas on how to proceed? Sometimes the exit status will be 100000A4 as well. I've enabled debugging but nothing in the log files seems to indicate a problem. Thanks! Curt ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 11:31:25 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: dunnett@mala.bc.ca (Malcolm Dunnett) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: SMTP agent dies with ACCVIO in 4.2 Date: 19 Jan 96 08:55:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1996Jan19.085533@malad2.mala.bc.ca> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I've recently installed MX 4.2 AXP (on VMS 6.1) and am having a problem with the SMTP agent dying with access violations. The problem appears to be in netlib: %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=0016FEF7, PC=001AA5F8, PS=0000001B %TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows Image Name Module Name Routine Name Line Number rel PC abs PC NETLIB_MULTI DNS netlib_dns_expa 12113 000005F8 001AA5F8 NETLIB_MULTI NAMEADDR name_to_addr_co 11928 00000534 001B38D4 NETLIB_MULTI NAMEADDR netlib___dns_na 11843 000001B8 001B3558 NETLIB_MULTI NETLIB_SRI netlib_name_to_ 21963 000023FC 001B1FCC NETLIB_MULTI COMPATIBILITY net_get_address 9439 00000454 001AB5A4 NETLIB_SHRXF 0 00022DA0 000B6DA0 MX_SMTP SMTP_OUT SMTP_SEND 286 00000530 00035540 MX_SMTP PROCESS PROCESS 403 00001034 000333B4 MX_SMTP MX_SMTP MX_SMTP 32 00001750 00031750 0 831EFA50 831EFA50 Is this a known problem? Is there a fix/workaround? Thanks in advance. -- ============================================================================= Malcolm Dunnett Malaspina University-College Email: dunnett@mala.bc.ca Computer Services Nanaimo, B.C. CANADA V9R 5S5 Tel: (604)755-8738 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 19:08:14 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: dan@ttinet.com (Daniel Esbensen) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: Problems with memory leak Date: 19 Jan 1996 21:45:26 GMT Message-ID: <4dp3dm$ape@makai.maui.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com >I receive the nexts messages of error when i try to log to another >system: > >$ telnet qweqw.weeq.ewe > Telnet-e-ineterror Internet interface error > Telnet-i-inetcall, socket() > system-f-insfmem, insufficient dynamic > >$ ftp wewq.qwee.wewq > ftp-e-crsock, error creating a socket. > Hi, After you get the error...do a: $ show process/acc This will tell you the peak virtual address space and peek working set information. If the two numbers don't seem very large, then the *real* error is probably that NPAGEDYN is too small -- or BYTLM (a process parameter) is too small. Dan E. dan@ttinet.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 00:36:21 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 23:34:55 MST From: System Manager Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099CA4F.338F8040.3@upanet.uleth.ca> Subject: re: SMTP_SERVER dying in V4.1 After much fiddling (and a few unrepeatable words ;-) ), I decided to fetch V4.2 and install it and cross my fingers. Despite ridding V4.1 of all the files in the 0..9 directories, including creating a new queue file, nothing has worked. Upgrading to V4.2 however has thus far been successful, the SMTP_SERVER processes are just happy as can be. Unfortunately, due to our lousy 56K link (going to T1 in 2 weeks), my FTP sessions would time out and I could not get V4.2 until I went to the Swedish mirror which has a 60 minute idle timeout! (ick). But, leaving it sit there all evening did allow it to fetch the whole ZIP file successfully! ;-) Regards, Curt ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 15:24:52 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 16:16:56 -0500 To: sandee@dx.com.np From: sandee@dx.com.np (Sandee Loring) Subject: Amazing FREE offer I found. -----> NOTE: Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for more info Form." Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company. You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info request form below. IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY: Please make sure you return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the actual form below. If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.* This is necessary in order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that they get daily. Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* if your fax: 1. has a cover page; 2. is more than one page 3. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form 4. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form. 5. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only* with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard). This last provision re: no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in via smail also. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NOTE: Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day, but due to thousands of inquiries coming in per week from potential new members living overseas, the easiest time to get through is Monday-Friday, 9 am - 5 pm EST (New York Time). If you have trouble getting through to their fax, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or first class mail). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------* REQUEST FOR MORE INFO: please return *only* this section (with no cover page) via 1-page fax to: 718-967-1550 in the USA or via smail (airmail) to: Magazine Club Inquiry Center Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept. PO Box 990 Staten Island NY 10312-0990 Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged. If you do not have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one. :) Name: Internet email address: Smail home address: City-State-Zip: Country: Work Tel. #: Work Fax #: Home Tel. #: Home Fax #: How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: Sandee Loring. 011996-l Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail: Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you: Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"): *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. Hi fellow 'netters, My name is Sandee Loring and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles. Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, Sandee Loring ps. please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net who you think might be interested in it! It is a great deal! If you join and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for each new person you get to join after you join! If you exceed 25 referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for Christmas, Chanukah or any other occasion. Please be kind enough to mention my name when you join. I will then get a free magazine for a year for referring you. Thank you. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 08:29:48 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 08:26:50 CST From: Tom Worlton Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099CC2B.D719C13E.104@anpns1.pns.anl.gov> Subject: RE: Amazing FREE offer I found. Please do not send this junk in the future. From: MX%"MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU" 20-JAN-1996 16:09:49.13 To: MX%"sandee@dx.com.np" CC: Subj: Amazing FREE offer I found. X-ListName: Message Exchange Discussion List Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU X-Sender: sandee@dx.com.np (Unverified) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Approved: moderator Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 16:16:56 -0500 To: sandee@dx.com.np From: sandee@dx.com.np (Sandee Loring) Subject: Amazing FREE offer I found. -----> NOTE: Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for more info Form." Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company. You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info request form below. IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY: Please make sure you return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the actual form below. If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.* This is necessary in order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that they get daily. Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* if your fax: 1. has a cover page; 2. is more than one page 3. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form 4. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form. 5. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only* with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard). This last provision re: no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in via smail also. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NOTE: Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day, but due to thousands of inquiries coming in per week from potential new members living overseas, the easiest time to get through is Monday-Friday, 9 am - 5 pm EST (New York Time). If you have trouble getting through to their fax, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or first class mail). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------* REQUEST FOR MORE INFO: please return *only* this section (with no cover page) via 1-page fax to: 718-967-1550 in the USA or via smail (airmail) to: Magazine Club Inquiry Center Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept. PO Box 990 Staten Island NY 10312-0990 Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged. If you do not have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one. :) Name: Internet email address: Smail home address: City-State-Zip: Country: Work Tel. #: Work Fax #: Home Tel. #: Home Fax #: How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: Sandee Loring. 011996-l Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail: Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you: Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"): *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. Hi fellow 'netters, My name is Sandee Loring and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles. Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, Sandee Loring ps. please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net who you think might be interested in it! It is a great deal! If you join and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for each new person you get to join after you join! If you exceed 25 referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for Christmas, Chanukah or any other occasion. Please be kind enough to mention my name when you join. I will then get a free magazine for a year for referring you. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from WKUVX1.WKU.EDU (wkuvx2.wku.edu) by ANPNS1.PNS.ANL.GOV (MX V4.1 AXP) with SMTP; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 16:09:46 CST Message-ID: ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 08:48:11 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: MERTUS@brownvm.brown.edu () Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: INTERNET_HOST_NAME, HELP Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 06:54:19 EST Message-ID: <4dg3q3$h1s@cocoa.brown.edu> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I have the same problem as a previous post MX_SMTP has stopped running. The problems seems that I removeed the local host name in UCX (by accident) I then put it back in, reinstalled UCX, reinstalled MX 4.1, but the error continues. From the last post, INTERNET_HOST_NAME is not being defined, but where is it set. UCX? I'm runing UCX 3.2. -John_Mertus@Brown.EDU Thanks for any help ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:02:34 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: mikeb@radonc.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: MLF 4.2 dieing w/access violation Date: Mon, 15 Jan 96 11:19:04 +700 Message-ID: <4de9cs$dkb@mark.ucdavis.edu> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Since I upgraded to MX 4.2 6 days ago, I've had MLF die on me three times with an access violation. I've just enabled MX_MLF_DEBUG, but I wonder if anyone else has seen this. I running a pretty busy (20-40 messages/day) 1600 user mailing list (though 3/4 are on the digest). Thanks Mike =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael Bowers Internet: mikeb@radonc.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu University of California, Davis ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:55:35 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 12:39:52 EST From: Scott McNeilly Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099CC4F.3082EDE0.1@fred.bridgew.edu> Subject: Syntax Error in MX 4.2?? Dear MXers, Below are parts of two SMTP debug logs, one generated using MX 4.2 and VMS AXP 6.2 and the other on MX 4.1 VMS 5.5-2. In the first, the message fails to be sent. In the second, it works fine. The addressee in both cases is the same. The only difference that I can detect is that in the successful HELO line there is only one space between HELO and the domain, while in the other, unsuccessful HELO there are several spaces. Is this a change in MX 4.2? Is it a problem with VMS AXP 6.2? Why is this only a problem with this particular host? Is there some solution other than going back to MX 4.1? Any ideas or suggestions would be gratefully received. _____________________________________________________________________________ From MX 4.2, VMS AXP 6.2: 22-JAN-1996 11:47:27.13 SMTP_SEND: Connected 22-JAN-1996 11:47:27.22 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 220 uga.cc.uga.edu running IBM VM SMT P V2R3 on Mon, 22 Jan 96 11:46:56 EST 22-JAN-1996 11:47:27.28 SMTP_SEND: Sent: HELO topcat.bridgew.edu 22-JAN-1996 11:47:27.44 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 501 Syntax Error. Start Domain with ' a'..'z', 'A'..'Z', or '0'..'9' 22-JAN-1996 11:47:27.49 SMTP send failed, sts=0C27804A, sts2=0C268074 ______________________________________________________________________________ FROM MX 4.1, VMS (VAX) 5.5-2: 22-JAN-1996 12:17:25.81 SMTP_SEND: Connected 22-JAN-1996 12:17:25.93 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 220 uga.cc.uga.edu running IBM VM SMT P V2R3 on Mon, 22 Jan 96 12:16:47 EST 22-JAN-1996 12:17:25.97 SMTP_SEND: Sent: HELO EAGLE.bridgew.edu 22-JAN-1996 12:17:26.05 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 uga.cc.uga.edu is my domain name. 22-JAN-1996 12:17:26.06 SMTP_SEND: Sent: MAIL FROM: 22-JAN-1996 12:17:26.19 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 OK 22-JAN-1996 12:17:26.19 SMTP_SEND: Sent: RCPT TO: 22-JAN-1996 12:17:26.32 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 OK 22-JAN-1996 12:17:26.34 SMTP_SEND: Sent: DATA -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@bridgew.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:37:48 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:16:42 -0500 Message-ID: <96012215164217@renfrew.edu.on.ca> From: priebe@renfrew.edu.on.ca (David Priebe) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@wkuvx1.wku.edu Subject: Help installing MX Error creating new system message queue Hello all, I am new to this list, so I hope I'm in the right place. I am having trouble installing MX version 4.2 on VAX/VMS version 6.1 over UCX V3.2 ECO 4. Towards the end of the vmsinstal procedure, It appears to try to create a new system message queue file. This does not happen. I then try to create it with MCP QUEUE CREATE/MAX=100 The error message is always the same. %MCP-E-QCVTFAIL, error creating new system message queue -RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or in appropriate device type for operation I think it would be using the logical MX_FLQ_DIR to create this file, and a show log shows "MX_FLQ_DIR" = "DISK0:[SYS0.MAILER.QUEUE]" LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE DISK0 is a logical "DISK0" = "$1$DIA0:" and the directories are correct and exist. To make sure this logical is working(no syntax errors) dir mx_flq_dir shows 10 sub-directories and no files. The sub-directories are named 0 thru 9 which I assume is correct. A run mx_exe:mailqueue shows the above same two messages in addition to one more -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHDEV, no such device available I can not figure out what device it's talking about. Any ideas would help, David Priebe priebe@renfrew.edu.on.ca ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:28:29 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:25:15 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: SMCNEILLY@FRED.BRIDGEW.EDU Message-ID: <0099CC66.4B208A1A.22@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Syntax Error in MX 4.2?? Scott McNeilly writes: > >22-JAN-1996 11:47:27.28 SMTP_SEND: Sent: HELO topcat.bridgew.edu >22-JAN-1996 11:47:27.44 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 501 Syntax Error. Start Domain with I would look at your MX logicals; it looks like you've defined your host name with a TAB, perhaps? Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:20:14 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: Graham Walmsley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: VMS Mail Responder Message-ID: <3103E576.1AD4@upmarket.co.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:28:54 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: GWalmsley@upmarket.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hi, I am looking for some software to run under OpenVMS (Vax or Alpha) that will allow users to mail an address (ie. info@upmarket.co.uk) and be sent back an automated response. I don't want a mailing list that people need to subscribe to. I know under unix and sendmail some people forward the mail to a program which processes the request and mails the response. Any help would be great. Thanks Graham ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 02:25:06 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:23:58 +0100 (MET) From: Miklos Pasztor Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: GWalmsley@upmarket.co.uk Subject: Re: VMS Mail Responder Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can use MX's SITE interface, or the DELIVER package. Deliver is available e.g. at ftp.spc.edu. Regards, Miklos ==================================================================== Pa'sztor Miklo's | E-mail: pasztor@sztaki.hu MTA SZTAKI/ASZI Budapest 1132 Victor H. u. 18-22 | Tel: (36)-(1)-149-75-32 Institute for Computation and Automation, Hungarian Academy of Sciences ==================================================================== On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Graham Walmsley wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for some software to run under OpenVMS (Vax or Alpha) that will > allow users to mail an address (ie. info@upmarket.co.uk) and be sent back an > automated response. I don't want a mailing list that people need to > subscribe to. I know under unix and sendmail some people forward the mail > to a program which processes the request and mails the response. > > Any help would be great. > > Thanks > > Graham > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 07:31:18 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: jamie.jones.bra0505@oasis.icl.co.uk Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 10:46:43 GMT Message-ID: <199601231046.29545.0@getafix.oasis.icl.co.uk> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: Amazing FREE offer I found. To: mx-list@madgoat.com | From: Tom Worlton | Subject: Re: Amazing FREE offer I found. | Message-ID: <0099CC2B.D719C13E.104@anpns1.pns.anl.gov> | | Please do not send this junk in the future. ...and then you proceed to forward the whole of the junk back to the list, so we all get it again.... Do I smell a conspiracy? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 10:01:22 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 10:55:11 -0500 Message-ID: <96012310551121@renfrew.edu.on.ca> From: priebe@renfrew.edu.on.ca (David Priebe) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Subject: Another problem setting up My first question was answered, and it works, but I have another one. First, I found out that the MX_FLQ_DIR should not contain any logicals ie for the device name MX_FLQ_DIR = DISK0:[SYS0.MAILER.QUEUE] doesn't work MX_FLQ_DIR = $1$DIA0:[SYS0.MAILER.QUEUE] does work. thank you Now, I would like all mail coming into my domain renfrew.edu.on.ca to go to one host running MX. I have a mail exchanger record in my bind database renfrew.edu.on.ca. IN MX 10 board1.renfrew.edu.on.ca however MX can't process the mail because it can't find a server true So, What is the easiest (best) way to tell MX that all mail coming in to renfrew.edu.on.ca is to be sent to a local user?? And, After that works, How do I suppress the host name (board1) from outgoing mail messages?? PS. I am currently using UCX, so I will get replies. Thank you, David Priebe priebe@renfrew.edu.on.ca or priebe@board1.renfrew.edu.on.ca ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 10:41:37 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 10:38:00 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: PRIEBE@RENFREW.EDU.ON.CA Message-ID: <0099CD07.546D0E67.23@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Another problem setting up priebe@renfrew.edu.on.ca (David Priebe) writes: > >Now, >I would like all mail coming into my domain renfrew.edu.on.ca to go to >one host running MX. I have a mail exchanger record in my bind database >renfrew.edu.on.ca. IN MX 10 board1.renfrew.edu.on.ca >however MX can't process the mail because it can't find a server true >So, >What is the easiest (best) way to tell MX that all mail coming in to >renfrew.edu.on.ca is to be sent to a local user?? And, Use MCP to DEFINE PATH RENFREW.EDU.ON.CA LOCAL >After that works, How do I suppress the host name (board1) from outgoing >mail messages?? > Don't include it in your MX logical names (MX_VMSMAIL_LOCALHOST). Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 12:16:56 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 12:38:48 EST From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099CD18.34C400A0.2@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: Another problem setting up David Priebe (priebe@renfrew.edu.on.ca) writes: >My first question was answered, and it works, but I have another one. >First, I found out that the MX_FLQ_DIR should not contain any logicals >ie for the device name MX_FLQ_DIR = DISK0:[SYS0.MAILER.QUEUE] doesn't work > MX_FLQ_DIR = $1$DIA0:[SYS0.MAILER.QUEUE] does work. Nonsense. MX works just dandy if the leading logical name is defined /EXEC/TRANSLATION=(CONCEAL,TERMINAL). Here's my _active_ definition: $ sho log mx_flq_dir/fu "MX_FLQ_DIR" [exec] = "MX_DISK:[MX.QUEUE]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) $ sho log/fu mx_disk "MX_DISK" [exec] = "$1$DUA18:" [concealed,terminal] (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) Works just fine and has been for a LONG time. -- Brian tillman_brian@si.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 12:57:02 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 10:57:14 PST From: Simeon Broughton Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099CD0A.04418460.65@NICAD3.NIC.BC.CA> Subject: Incoming SMTP CR/LF not wrapping I recently upgraded from MX 3.x to 4.2. We have a PC network runing Banyan Vines w/SMTP. Banyan Mail automatically word wraps and I believe inserts a , not , at the wrap point. Using MX 3.x however the messages were delivered and looked fine. Now we have upgraded to 4.2 the delivered message looks horrible, something like: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and then will end abruptly half way through a wo (rd) Has anyone seen anything like this? Any fixes? Simeon Broughton, Manager, Computer Services. (604)334-5254 North Island College, 2300 Ryan Road, Courtenay, B.C. V9N 8N6. CANADA broughton@nic.bc.ca ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 16:43:57 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: dunnett@mala.bc.ca (Malcolm Dunnett) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: MX LOCAL 4.2 dies Date: 23 Jan 96 13:43:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1996Jan23.134315@malad2.mala.bc.ca> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I'm running MX 4.2. One of the systems involved is a VAX, VMS 5.5-2, UCX 3.3; the other is an ALPHA, VMS 6.1, Multinet 3.4 I had all my LOCAL agents die yesterday, with an error similar to the attached. Is this an account quota problem, system parameter problem or a bug? Thanks for any advice. --- contents of MX_LOCAL.LOG --- %MX-F-MEMALLOC, error allocating memory from zone TXTZONE -LIB-F-INSVIRMEM, insufficient virtual memory %TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows module name routine name line rel PC abs PC 000997F5 000997F5 DELIVER ADD_TO_QUEUE 835 00000010 00006D13 8026CFF5 8026CFF5 DELIVER MAIL_ERR_HANDLER 781 00000024 00006C92 DELIVER SEND_MESSAGE 935 0000003A 00006DD0 ----- above condition handler called with exception 007E811A: %MAIL-E-SENDERR, error sending to user xxxxxxx@faculty.mala.bc.ca at -SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=00000000, PC=00048289, PSL=03C00000 ----- end of exception message 00048289 00048289 0004891B 0004891B ----- above condition handler called with exception 0000000C: %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=00000000, PC=001B3739, PSL=03C00004 ----- end of exception message 001B3739 001B3739 000456F6 000456F6 000486C0 000486C0 000410CE 000410CE 00041213 00041213 DELIVER SEND_MESSAGE 930 00000025 00006DBB DELIVER MAIL_TO_RECIPIENTS 1073 000001DA 00006FAB DELIVER DELIVER 709 000009A0 00006B1E PROCESS PROCESS 382 0000064E 00003FC7 MX_LOCAL MX_LOCAL 31 000003D0 00002DD4 -- ============================================================================= Malcolm Dunnett Malaspina University-College Email: dunnett@mala.bc.ca Computer Services Nanaimo, B.C. CANADA V9R 5S5 Tel: (604)755-8738 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 17:32:03 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 23:28:03 +0100 From: Richard Levitte - GNU on VMS hacker Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099CD72.E7C59C77.3@e.kth.se> Subject: Re: VMS Mail Responder >From: Graham Walmsley >I am looking for some software to run under OpenVMS (Vax or Alpha) that will >allow users to mail an address (ie. info@upmarket.co.uk) and be sent back an >automated response. I don't want a mailing list that people need to >subscribe to. I know under unix and sendmail some people forward the mail >to a program which processes the request and mails the response. That's quite simpe to do by using the SITE interface (you'd better read about it in the MX Programmer's Guide). This is what you need to do: MCP> DEFINE ALIAS "Info" "dummy@info.upmarket.co.uk" MCP> DEFINE PATH "info.upmarket.co.uk" SITE Those commands make sure that all mail to info@upmarket.co.uk is redirected to som email address in the subdomain (which does NOT need to exist in DNS) info.upmarket.co.uk (as a matter of fact, you can give it whatever name you wish, just so the alias and the path match. All you need to do now is to write MX_EXE:SITE_DELIVER.COM: $! SITE_DELIVER.COM $! $! P1 route parameter $! P2 DATA file $! P3 file with recipient $! P4 originator $! $! Make needed changes here: $ Admin_address = "" ! Change it to your needs $ Response_file = MX_EXE:SITE_DELIVER.TXT $! $ pid = f$getjpi("","pid") $ open/write foo sys$scratch:site_forw_'pid'.tmp $ write foo Admin_address $ close foo $ open/write foo sys$scratch:site_to_'pid'.tmp $ write foo p4 $ close foo $ MX_ENTER := $MX_EXE:MX_SITE_IN $! Forward the incoming mail to the administrator. OPTIONAL!!!!! $ MX_ENTER 'p2' sys$scratch:site_forw_'pid'.tmp "''p4'" $! Send automagic text back to the sender. $ MX_ENTER 'Response_file' sys$scratch:site_to_'pid'.tmp "''Admin_address>" $ tmp = $status $ delete sys$sysdevice:[tmp]site_forw_'pid'.TMP;* $ delete sys$sysdevice:[tmp]site_to_'pid'.TMP;* $ request "Exit status: ''tmp'" ! I know no better thing to do... $ exit tmp And at last, the text of the returned mail should be entered in the file MX_EXE:SITE_DELIVER.TXT (or elsewhere, if you choose). -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Richard Levitte, GNU on VMS hacker ! tel: +46-8-26 52 47 ! ! Spannvägen 38, I ! fax: none for the moment ! ! S-161 43 Bromma ! Internet: levitte@e.kth.se ! ! SWEDEN ! ! +-GNUish VMS-+ You may not add me to a commercial mailing list or send me commercial advertising without my consent! See http://www.e.kth.se/~levitte/anti.html for further reference. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 19:29:52 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: dunnett@mala.bc.ca (Malcolm Dunnett) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: MX LOCAL 4.2 dies Date: 23 Jan 96 16:12:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1996Jan23.161207@malad2.mala.bc.ca> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <1996Jan23.134315@malad2.mala.bc.ca>, dunnett@mala.bc.ca (Malcolm Dunnett) writes: > > I had all my LOCAL agents die yesterday, with an error similar to > the attached. > I should have RTFM'd more carefully before posting. I presume this problem is the "memory leak" in callable mail which is documented in the release notes. Sorry to have bothered everyone. -- ============================================================================= Malcolm Dunnett Malaspina University-College Email: dunnett@mala.bc.ca Computer Services Nanaimo, B.C. CANADA V9R 5S5 Tel: (604)755-8738 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 20:17:44 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 21:07:28 EST From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: MERTUS@brownvm.brown.edu, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0099CD5F.44038940.1@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: INTERNET_HOST_NAME, HELP > I have the same problem as a previous post MX_SMTP has stopped running. > The problems seems that I removeed the local host name in UCX (by accident) > I then put it back in, reinstalled UCX, reinstalled MX 4.1, but the > error continues. > From the last post, INTERNET_HOST_NAME is not being defined, but > where is it set. UCX? I'm runing UCX 3.2. The INTERNET_HOST_NAME logical is part of the CMU/TEK TCP/IP package, not UCX. - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 22:09:29 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: dunnett@mala.bc.ca (Malcolm Dunnett) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: MX LOCAL 4.2 dies Date: 23 Jan 96 19:56:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1996Jan23.195606@malad2.mala.bc.ca> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <1996Jan23.161207@malad2.mala.bc.ca>, dunnett@mala.bc.ca (Malcolm Dunnett) writes: >> I had all my LOCAL agents die yesterday, with an error similar to >> the attached. > > I presume this problem is the "memory leak" in callable mail which > is documented in the release notes. > It appears I spoke too soon. The problem got to the point where the LOCAL agents were going away every 1/2 hour. From looking at the .TMP files which got left in the MX_ROOT:[LOCAL] directory it became apparent that it was the same mail message which killed the agent every time. I've attached a copy of the message here. I suspect it may be related to the number of "Received:" headers, since it seems to have a lot of them. In any case it appears this message will reliably kill the MX 4.2 LOCAL agent. ----- Return-Path: Resent-From: "MARTI MCKINLEY" Resent-To: tattman@mala.bc.ca, averya@mala.bc.ca Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:55:33 PST Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:23:22 PST Resent-From: Resent-To: X-Sender: ccollins@uclink.berkeley.edu (Unverified) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Approved-By: ccollins@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:54:15 -0800 Reply-To: VOCNET - NCRVE UC Berkeley Vocational Education Discussion List , garyg@value.net Sender: VOCNET - NCRVE UC Berkeley Vocational Education Discussion List From: Gary Green Subject: Re: Medical Transcriptional Coursework On Thu, 18 Jan 1996 South.Dakota.Curriculum.Center@vocserve.berkeley.edu wrote: > We are interested in programs, courses, software to train medical > transcriptionists. A company is interested in contracting with individuals > to work out of their homes transcribing medical records. We are interested > in learning about specific skills and training needs as we are in the > process of designing a training program..? > > South.Dakota.Curriculum.Center@vocserve.berkeley.edu > The American Association for Medical Transcription, located in Modesto, California, provides extensive training materials and a detailed curriculum outline. Most of the major vocational training publishers, including Southwestern, McGraw-Hill, and W. B. Saunders (Philadelphia), also provide training materials. Another good company to investigate is DDC (or Dictation Disc Company) in Chicago. The AAMT recommends a two-year, college-level training, though many schools (including the one where I teach transcription) offer a shorter course and encourage students to volunteer at agencies following their training in order to become polished. Transcription is widely touted as a field in which one can start one's own business at home. The AAMT (consistent with my own experience) warns that students should expect to work for an employer, preferably on the employer's premises, before working independently. Working at home under the supervision of the employer may be feasible. One must be able to consult with other transcriptionists when one is newly transcribing, and one must learn the business aspects by observing. Additionally, my experience is that, despite the demand for transcriptionists, employers can be very fussy about hiring transcriptionists without previous transcription employment. Therefore, it is wise to find out whether local employers will take students fresh out of school, before initiating a major training program. Volunteering (as I mentioned) and temp jobs are possible bridges to steady paid employment. A final caution. Only graduates with excellent keyboarding speed and accuracy, word processing skills, spelling and grammar skills, understanding of medical terminology, and ability to figure out what a doctor must be saying when he/she is mumbling, are likely to be successful. At times I've quipped that those smart enough to do it are smart enough not to. (Viz. myself, transciptionist-turned-educator.) Because transcription requires good skills before even beginning training, I only train a limited number of students for transcription, and the rest are directed toward medical receptionist/records clerk/biller jobs. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Received: from faculty.mala.bc.ca by malad2.mala.bc.ca (MX V4.2 AXP) with SMTP; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:55:36 PST Received: from FS1/MAILQUEUE by faculty.mala.bc.ca (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 22 Jan 96 15:56:02 GMT-7 Received: from MAILQUEUE by FS1 (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 22 Jan 96 15:55:39 GMT-7 Received: from MAILQUEUE by FS1 (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 22 Jan 96 15:24:09 GMT-7 Received: from malasp.mala.bc.ca by faculty.mala.bc.ca (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 22 Jan 96 15:23:59 GMT-7 Received: from cmsa.Berkeley.EDU by malad2.mala.bc.ca (MX V4.2 AXP) with SMTP; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:23:18 PST Received: from CMSA.BERKELEY.EDU by cmsa.Berkeley.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 6207; Mon, 22 Jan 96 15:22:22 PST Received: from CMSA.BERKELEY.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UCBCMSA) by CMSA.BERKELEY.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2545; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:56:54 -0800 Received: from CMSA.BERKELEY.EDU by CMSA.BERKELEY.EDU (LISTSERV release 1.8b) with NJE id 2784 for VOCNET@CMSA.BERKELEY.EDU; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:56:48 -0800 Received: from UCBCMSA (NJE origin SMTPSERV@UCBCMSA) by CMSA.BERKELEY.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2425; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:56:28 -0800 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by cmsa.Berkeley.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 22 Jan 96 14:56:26 PST Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (uclink.berkeley.edu [128.32.155.3]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA12440 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:56:14 -0800 Received: from [128.32.248.12] (2150shat1mac2.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.248.12]) by uclink.berkeley.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA07578 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:54:15 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list VOCNET -- ============================================================================= Malcolm Dunnett Malaspina University-College Email: dunnett@mala.bc.ca Computer Services Nanaimo, B.C. CANADA V9R 5S5 Tel: (604)755-8738 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 06:29:47 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: jamie.jones.bra0505@oasis.icl.co.uk Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:23:53 GMT Message-ID: <199601241223.14377.0@getafix.oasis.icl.co.uk> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: RE: VMS Mail Responder To: mx-list@madgoat.com Graham, I wrote one a couple of years ago that interfaces with MX SITE. Any user can use it once installed, and it always uses the return-path/"MAIL FROM" address, not the "From:" address like other programs... I have been planning to tidy it up a bit and add a few more features, but I lost my VMS access. However, it does work, and is yours if you want it. Any offers of a VMS account gratefully received !! Regards, Jamie ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 14:33:06 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: buddy@grappa.macc.wisc.edu () Subject: MX List Server subscription removal problem Date: 24 Jan 1996 18:00:51 GMT Message-ID: <4e5s4j$d88@news.doit.wisc.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hi, I have just been handed off the responsibility to manage a VAX machine that runs MX mailer (which I have no experience with). I need to remove several users from the machine which requires me to remove them from the mailing lists on the system. Now, I have found the utility to do so: MLFAKE, and I have used it to successfully send out the request to the listserver to signoff the users. The problem is, the list server refused to delete the users from the mailing lists. Can anyone tell me what went wrong and what needs to be done? Thanks. Transcript of the session: (MX_MLF_LOG.LOG): 24-JAN-1996 11:15:40.55 Processing queue entry number 475 24-JAN-1996 11:15:40.84 Checking local name: CNRED-ALL-LIST-request 24-JAN-1996 11:15:40.85 This is a list control address. 24-JAN-1996 11:15:40.88 LIST_CTRL_REQ: Message is from: sundel@wisplan.uwex.e du 24-JAN-1996 11:15:41.31 LIST_CTRL_REQ: command is: SIGNOFF 24-JAN-1996 11:15:41.32 CHECK_ACCESS: checking sundel@wisplan.uwex.edu for acc ess mask=00000008 24-JAN-1996 11:15:41.33 CHECK_ACCESS: Found address on subscriber list. 24-JAN-1996 11:15:41.33 CHECK_ACCESS: Access check failed. Requested acces s denied. 24-JAN-1996 11:15:56.38 All done with this entry. Buddy ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Buddy Christyono Email : buddy@doit.wisc.edu UW-Madison DoIT/SE-POST Phone : 608-265-6628 1210 W. Dayton St. Room 3175 Fax : 608-262-2116 Madison, WI 53706 http : //www.engr.wisc.edu/~christyo ----------------D-A-L-L-A-S---C-O-W-B-O-Y-S---R-U-L-E------------------------ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 19:02:10 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 18:56:18 -0600 (CST) From: "H.A. Kippenhan Jr." Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <960124185618.43c00894@fndcd.fnal.gov> Subject: RE: MX List Server subscription removal problem Hi: | | From: SMTP%"MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU" 24-JAN-1996 16:22:05.49 | Subj: MX List Server subscription removal problem | | I have just been handed off the responsibility to manage a VAX machine that | runs MX mailer (which I have no experience with). I need to remove several | users from the machine which requires me to remove them from the mailing | lists on the system. | Now, I have found the utility to do so: MLFAKE, and I have used it to | successfully send out the request to the listserver to signoff the users. | The problem is, the list server refused to delete the users from the mailing | lists. Can anyone tell me what went wrong and what needs to be done? | Thanks. | First guess is that you aren't the owner of the mailing lists, so it's ignoring you. | | Transcript of the session: | | (MX_MLF_LOG.LOG): | 24-JAN-1996 11:15:40.55 Processing queue entry number 475 | 24-JAN-1996 11:15:40.84 Checking local name: CNRED-ALL-LIST-request | 24-JAN-1996 11:15:40.85 This is a list control address. | 24-JAN-1996 11:15:40.88 LIST_CTRL_REQ: Message is from: sundel@wisplan.uwex.e | du | 24-JAN-1996 11:15:41.31 LIST_CTRL_REQ: command is: SIGNOFF | 24-JAN-1996 11:15:41.32 CHECK_ACCESS: checking sundel@wisplan.uwex.edu for acc | ess mask=00000008 | 24-JAN-1996 11:15:41.33 CHECK_ACCESS: Found address on subscriber list. | 24-JAN-1996 11:15:41.33 CHECK_ACCESS: Access check failed. Requested acces | s denied. | 24-JAN-1996 11:15:56.38 All done with this entry. | Eventually, you'll want to get proficient with MLFAKE, etc. However, to solve your immediate problem, you can run MCP and do something like the following: MCP REVIEW mumble-list/out=mumble-list.foo You can simply edit mumble.mlist to eliminate the addresses you are trying to purge, and then rename mumble-list.foo to mumble-list.mlist Hope this helps Best regards - Kipp - \|/ o o +----------------------------------+------------------------+----m--~--m----+ | H.A. Kippenhan Jr. | Internet: Kippenhan@FNAL.GOV | | HEP Network Resource Center | HEPnet/NSI DECnet: FNDCD::KIPPENHAN | | Fermi National Accelerator Lab. | BITnet: Kippenhan@FNDCD.BITNET | | P.O. Box 500 MS: FCC-3E/368 | Telephone: (708) 840-8068 | | Batavia, Illinois 60510 | FAX: (708) 840-8463 | +----------------------------------+----------------------------------------+ | All opinions & ideas expressed are mine alone, and may not necessarily | | reflect those of Fermilab, Univ. Research Assoc., or the Dept. of Energy | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 08:39:21 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 07:57:53 +0100 From: Richard Levitte - GNU on VMS hacker Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: GWalmsley@upmarket.co.uk Message-ID: <0099CE83.4B1918E8.23@e.kth.se> Subject: Re: VMS Mail Responder Eh, guys, and especially Graham Walmsley , I want to present my appologies. It looks like the SITE_DELIVER.COM I posted a few days ago was very much incorrect, and in any case the wrong version. That's what you get from starting to edit a file on one system and then debugging it on another, and then forget both copies are not the same any more... Oh well... Anyway, here's the correct, debugged version (I use it myself), just slightly edited for upmarket.co.uk: $! SITE_DELIVER.COM $! $! P1 route parameter $! P2 DATA file $! P3 file with recipient $! P4 originator $! $! Make needed changes here: $ Admin_address = "" ! Change it to your needs $ Response_file := MX_EXE:SITE_DELIVER.TXT $! $ pid = f$getjpi("","pid") $ open/write foo mx_root:[site]rl_site_forw_'pid'.tmp $ write foo Admin_address $ close foo $ open/write foo mx_root:[site]rl_site_to_'pid'.tmp $ write foo p4 $ close foo $ MX_ENTER := $MX_EXE:MX_SITE_IN $! Forward the incoming mail to the administrator. OPTIONAL!!!!! $ MX_ENTER 'p2' mx_root:[site]rl_site_forw_'pid'.tmp "''p4'" $! Send automagic text back to the sender. $ MX_ENTER 'Response_file' mx_root:[site]rl_site_to_'pid'.tmp "''Admin_address'" $ tmp = $status $ delete mx_root:[site]rl_site_forw_'pid'.tmp;* $ delete mx_root:[site]rl_site_to_'pid'.tmp;* $ exit tmp -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Richard Levitte, GNU on VMS hacker ! tel: +46-8-26 52 47 ! ! Spannvägen 38, I ! fax: none for the moment ! ! S-161 43 Bromma ! Internet: levitte@e.kth.se ! ! SWEDEN ! ! +-GNUish VMS-+ You may not add me to a commercial mailing list or send me commercial advertising without my consent! See http://www.e.kth.se/~levitte/anti.html for further reference. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 20:36:56 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 21:35:54 EST From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: KIPPENHAN@fndcd.fnal.gov, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0099CEF5.9228FF00.5@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: MX List Server subscription removal problem > However, to solve your immediate problem, you can run MCP and > do something like the following: > MCP REVIEW mumble-list/out=mumble-list.foo > You can simply edit mumble.mlist to eliminate the addresses you > are trying to purge, and then rename > mumble-list.foo to mumble-list.mlist Huh? In your fourth line, do you mean mumble.mlist, or mumble-list.foo? Second, I don't believe* that the recipient list is kept in plain text. If it is, then why not just edit mumble-list.mlist in the first place? - Jonathan *Yes, I know how to check it out myself. However, I'm 1000 miles away from my VAX right now, and that's hard to do while editing an EMail reply. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 20:42:12 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 21:41:49 EST From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: buddy@grappa.macc.wisc.edu, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0099CEF6.65AF6300.4@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: MX List Server subscription removal problem > I need to remove several users from the machine which requires me to > remove them from the mailing lists on the system. > Now, I have found the utility to do so: MLFAKE I never use MLFAKE for this. First, get some basic information about your configuration. From a priv'ed account: $ MCP SHOW/ALL (I think is the right command. If it isn't, use the manual to figure out the correct one, MCP SHOW *, or whatever. From this, find out the accounts with SYSTEM priv, and the accounts that are "owners" of the mailing list. From one or another of these accounts, send mail to listname-request@your.host (note the "-request") that says REMOVE name-to-remove Remember, "name-to-remove" is case sensitive. - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 07:12:23 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: tonyh@vax.sbu.ac.uk Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Lynx2.4 won't send mail on VAX VMS Date: 25 Jan 96 15:44:58 GMT Message-ID: <1996Jan25.154458.1@vax.sbu.ac.uk> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hi everyone, Do you have Lynx2.4 installed on your VAX VMS? (forgive me is this is the wrong newsgroup.) {:-) I've downloaded version 2.4 of the Lynx World Wide Web browser everything seems to work fine except when Sending Mail. The mail always comes back via the Mail Exchange (MX) Postmaster with an error message which is show at the end ot this text. If you have lynx2.4 installed on your VAX with mail working properly, or, you have some advice/suggertions that may help, please email me. Thanks in advance - Tony. :-( *** Error message produced by Mail Exchange *** From: MX%"Postmaster@vax.sbu.ac.uk" 23-JAN-1996 11:39:51.27 To: MX%"tonyh@vax.sbu.ac.uk" CC: Subj: Message routing error Return-Path: <> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:39:36 GMT From: Message Exchange Router To: tonyh@vax.sbu.ac.uk Subject: Message routing error Note: this message was generated automatically. Problem occurred during message routing for the following: Address: (originally: < sally@vax.sbu.ac.uk>) Error: Invalid address. Message follows. Received: by vax.sbu.ac.uk (MX V4.1 VAX) id 10; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:39:34 GMT Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:39:31 GMT From: tonyh@vax.sbu.ac.uk X-MX-Warning: Warning -- Invalid "To" header. To: sally@vax.sbu.ac.uk Message-ID: <0099CD0F.ECBAD0C0.10@vax.sbu.ac.uk> Subject: Hi Sally X-URL: mailto: sally@vax.sbu.ac.uk X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4 X-Personal_name: tony X-From: sbu::tonyh This is a message which did not reach its destination. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:00:04 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: jason@iii.co.uk (Jason) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: VMS Mail Responder in DCL Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:47:27 +0000 Message-ID: To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I tried one of these posted here, and it didn't work for me, So I re-wrote a clukny one that I now use; It works. ------------------------------------------------------------- Here is a 'thing' that I use to autoreply to incoming INFO@my_domain.com requests. The person is sent back a little message, with no indication in the from header, telling them that "we got it" You must set up a mail alias and a path for this to work properly. MCP> DEFINE ALIAS "INFO" "AUTO@REPLY.MIL" MCP> DEFINE PATH "REPLY.MIL" SITE The REPLY.MIL domain doesn't actually exist on my domain, BUT because it's sent to the SITE interface, it doesn't matter: ANYTHING sent to that domain is processed by this SITE 'thing'; Only the "INFO@..." alias points to this (non-existant) domain. Now... This is assuming that this file is placed into the directory that MX_EXE: points to. It may look clunky, but it DOES handle multiple "hits" without getting confused. It does this by using the 'PID' variable. This was built, and debugged over-and-over. So long as SITE is installed in your MX 'kit' directory, it WILL work. I am using MX 4.1 on VMS 5.5-1 (look for MX_SITE.EXE, MX_SITE.COM, and MX_SITE_IN.EXE in the MX_EXE: directory, and make sure that the MX startup 'dat' file has an entry that starts the SITE process. -do a show process for MX Site something...) This 'thing' will look for a file called REPLY.TXT in MX_EXE: -It holds the autoreply message. Chop out this file and call it: SITE_DELIVER.COM Put it in MX_EXE: (wherever it points to) $! @MX_EXE:SITE_DELIVER Simple reply, and forward $! -Jason F. London. Fri Jan 26, 1996 $! $ SET NOON $! $ DELIVER = "$MX_EXE:MX_SITE_IN" $ REP = "MX_EXE:REPLY.TXT" $ PID = F$GETJPI("","PID") $! $! The from address is stored in this temp file $ CREATE DKA0:[MX.SITE]SENDER'PID'.TMP $ OPEN/APPEND MSG DKA0:[MX.SITE]SENDER'PID'.TMP $ WRITE MSG P4 $ CLOSE MSG $! $! The Admin address is stored in this temp file $ CREATE DKA0:[MX.SITE]ADMIN.TXT $ OPEN/APPEND AMN DKA0:[MX.SITE]ADMIN.TXT $ WRITE AMN "" $ CLOSE AMN $! $! Send them a autoreply $ DELIVER 'REP' DKA0:[MX.SITE]SENDER'PID'.TMP 'P4 $! $! Send the message TO the ADMIN person defined above $ DELIVER 'P2 DKA0:[MX.SITE]ADMIN.TXT 'P4 $! $ STAT = $STATUS $ DELETE DKA0:[MX.SITE]SENDER'PID'.TMP;* $ DELETE DKA0:[MX.SITE]ADMIN.TXT;* $EXIT 'STAT Now, BEWARE! if you modify this 'thing' you run the risk of the SITE process screwing up, and sending bad mail back to itself -trying to send mail to a filename for example- as many times as the SITE defaults are set to: 96! retries, and retries after those, scheduled to 30 minutes. Your SITE process will COMPLETELY slow down your vax, and the SITE process itself may use up to 46% of the CPU's time! when this happens, you will have to manually "STOP/IDEN=..." the Site process, and then, MANUALLY delete the 96 entry big queue, then restart MX... So, perhaps set the SITE's params to: MCP> SET SITE /MAX=2 /RET=00:05:00 (2 retries, every 5 minutes) There... -Jason ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:09:58 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:04:36 EST From: "Chris J. Coats - System Manager" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@madgoat.com CC: coats@thorin.brooks.af.mil Message-ID: <0099CF55.C75767E7.1@thorin.brooks.af.mil> Subject: help translating error message Can anyone help me figure out how to translate the follwing error message? Last error: %NONAME-E-NOMSG, Message number 0863818A i've tried set message mx_msg.exe, as well as a number of other message files in sys$message, to no avail. The message is associated with several "stuck" entries I found in the MX queue this morning, waiting to be sent by the SMTP agent. I have debug-tracing turned on for SMTP and SMTP server agents, but found that there were no log files being created for the SMTP deliver agent, so that was no help. Thanks is advance. - Chris /*------------------------------------ Chris Coats - Systems Manager Medical Information Systems - AL/AOEL Laboratory Services Branch, Brooks AFB coats@hal.brooks.af.mil (210) 536-3927 -------------------------------------*/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:48:25 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: jason@iii.co.uk (Jason@iii.co.uk) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: MX auto-reply for the SITE Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:56:18 +0000 Message-ID: To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I tried one of these posted here, and it didn't work for me, So I re-wrote a clukny one that I now use; It works. ------------------------------------------------------------- Here is a 'thing' that I use to autoreply to incoming INFO@my_domain.com requests. The person is sent back a little message, with no indication in the from header, telling them that "we got it" You must set up a mail alias and a path for this to work properly. MCP> DEFINE ALIAS "INFO" "AUTO@REPLY.MIL" MCP> DEFINE PATH "REPLY.MIL" SITE The REPLY.MIL domain doesn't actually exist on my domain, BUT because it's sent to the SITE interface, it doesn't matter: ANYTHING sent to that domain is processed by this SITE 'thing'; Only the "INFO@..." alias points to this (non-existant) domain. Now... This is assuming that this file is placed into the directory that MX_EXE: points to. It may look clunky, but it DOES handle multiple "hits" without getting confused. It does this by using the 'PID' variable. This was built, and debugged over-and-over. So long as SITE is installed in your MX 'kit' directory, it WILL work. I am using MX 4.1 on VMS 5.5-1 (look for MX_SITE.EXE, MX_SITE.COM, and MX_SITE_IN.EXE in the MX_EXE: directory, and make sure that the MX startup 'dat' file has an entry that starts the SITE process. -do a show process for MX Site something...) This 'thing' will look for a file called REPLY.TXT in MX_EXE: -It holds the autoreply message. Chop out this file and call it: SITE_DELIVER.COM Put it in MX_EXE: (wherever it points to) as well, modify the "MODIFY THIS LINE FOR YOUR SITE" lines! $! @MX_EXE:SITE_DELIVER Simple reply, and forward $! -Jason F. London. Fri Jan 26, 1996 $! $ SET NOON $! $ DELIVER = "$MX_EXE:MX_SITE_IN" $ REP = "MX_EXE:REPLY.TXT" $ PID = F$GETJPI("","PID") $! $! The from address is stored in this temp file $! MODIFY THIS LINE FOR YOUR SITE: $ CREATE DKA0:[MX.SITE]SENDER'PID'.TMP $! MODIFY THIS LINE FOR YOUR SITE: $ OPEN/APPEND MSG DKA0:[MX.SITE]SENDER'PID'.TMP $ WRITE MSG P4 $ CLOSE MSG $! $! The Admin address is stored in this temp file $! MODIFY THESE LINES FOR YOUR SITE: $ CREATE DKA0:[MX.SITE]ADMIN.TXT $ OPEN/APPEND AMN DKA0:[MX.SITE]ADMIN.TXT $ WRITE AMN "" $ CLOSE AMN $! $! Send them a autoreply $! MODIFY THIS LINE FOR YOUR SITE: $ DELIVER 'REP' DKA0:[MX.SITE]SENDER'PID'.TMP 'P4 $! $! Send the message TO the ADMIN person defined above $! MODIFY THIS LINE FOR YOUR SITE: $ DELIVER 'P2 DKA0:[MX.SITE]ADMIN.TXT 'P4 $! $ STAT = $STATUS $! MODIFY THESE LINES FOR YOUR SITE: $ DELETE DKA0:[MX.SITE]SENDER'PID'.TMP;* $ DELETE DKA0:[MX.SITE]ADMIN.TXT;* $EXIT 'STAT Now, BEWARE! if you modify this 'thing' you run the risk of the SITE process screwing up, and sending bad mail back to itself -trying to send mail to a filename for example- as many times as the SITE defaults are set to: 96! retries, and retries after those, scheduled to 30 minutes. Your SITE process will COMPLETELY slow down your vax, and the SITE process itself may use up to 46% of the CPU's time! when this happens, you will have to manually "STOP/IDEN=..." the Site process, and then, MANUALLY delete the 96 entry big queue, then restart MX... So, perhaps set the SITE's params to: MCP> SET SITE /MAX=2 /RET=00:05:00 (2 retries, every 5 minutes) There... -Jason ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 21:13:01 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: buddy@grappa.macc.wisc.edu () Subject: RE: MX List Server subscription removal problem Date: 26 Jan 1996 23:17:43 GMT Message-ID: <4ebnen$2buc@news.doit.wisc.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Thank you for all who have replied to my earlier post. I figured out that, basically a subscriber can be removed from a mailing list by sending an email to the -REQUEST address if the mailing list has a G:D protection. Otherwise, the list owner must remove the user by sending a REMOVE user@host.domain to the -REQUEST address. I have successfully removed the users by using MLFAKE/from=listowner (where the list owner is obtained from the MCP SHOW LIST command.. Thanks again! Buddy ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 18:43:17 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 11:26:34 -0500 To: michal22@netquandry.net (Michal Hirschberger) From: michal22@netquandry.net (Michal Hirschberger) Subject: FAQ 22 / *STOP*......... before you buy another over-priced USA magazine at the store or by subscription! GET A WHOLE YEAR FREE! -----> NOTE: Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for more info Form." Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company. You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info request form below. IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY: Please make sure you return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the actual form below. If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.* This is necessary in order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that they get daily. Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* if your fax: 1. has a cover page; 2. is more than one page 3. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form 4. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form. 5. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only* with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard). This last provision re: no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in via smail also. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NOTE: Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week. If you have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or first class mail). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------* REQUEST FOR MORE INFO: please return *only* this section (with no cover page) via 1-page fax to: 718-967-1550 in the USA or via smail (airmail) to: Magazine Club Inquiry Center Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept. PO Box 990 Staten Island NY 10312-0990 Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged. If you do not have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one. :) Name: Internet email address: Smail home address: City-State-Zip: Country: Work Tel. #: Work Fax #: Home Tel. #: Home Fax #: How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: Michal Hirschberger. 012796-l Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail: Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you: Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"): *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. Hi fellow 'netters, My name is Michal Hirschberger and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles. Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, Michal Hirschberger ps. please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net who you think might be interested in it! It is a great deal! If you join and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for each new person you get to join after you join! If you exceed 25 referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for Christmas, Chanukah or any other occasion. Please be kind enough to mention my name when you join. I will then get a free magazine for a year for referring you. Thank you. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 05:53:16 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: z999012@mdacc.mda.uth.tmc.edu Subject: MX Problem Using UCX Date: 28 Jan 1996 08:09:37 GMT Message-ID: <4efb01$qp@oac2.hsc.uth.tmc.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I have recently been doing a lot of upgrades and changes and have now hit a problem. I may not be able to do what I am trying. I upgraded a Vax 7610 from VMS V5.5-2 to VMS V6.1. I was running CMUIP V6.6-5A, NETLIB 1.7 and MX 3.3 with minimum problems. All of those run under VMS 6.1 as they did at V5.5-2. I then installed UCX 3.3 ECO4 and thought I had everything fixed up. Telnet and FTP work as they should. I reinstalled Netlib with the UCX support and that seems to work as NEWSRDR now works. The problem now is with MX 3.3. Reinstalling did not fix it. First question: Does MX 3.3 have a chance of working with UCX 3.3 ?? I am hoping for a quick fix until I can get MX 4.2 installed. The problem I see is that mail delivery gets into a loop. The initial delivery fails with "transaction failed" and attempts to deliver the message to postmaster and fails. This repeats until the message is seen too many times. There is a postmaster account that does receive mail, not this mail. I changed the logical UCX$INET_HOST to be the fully qualified name which did not help. Any hints or suggestions will be most appreciated. __________________________________________________________________________ Lawrence Newton Mail Box 167 | Z999012@mdacc.mda.uth.tmc.edu University of Texas | lnewt@mdacc.mda.uth.tmc.edu M.D. Anderson Cancer Center | THENET MDACC::Z999012 1515 Holcombe Houston, Texas 77030 | Voice (713) 792-6344 Maybe we can eventually make lanquage a complete impediment to understanding. Hobbes -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 19:54:19 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: z999012@mdacc.mda.uth.tmc.edu Subject: Re: MX Problem Using UCX Date: 28 Jan 1996 19:15:36 GMT Message-ID: <4egi0o$j7n@oac2.hsc.uth.tmc.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <4efb01$qp@oac2.hsc.uth.tmc.edu>, Lawrence Newton z999012@mdacc.mda.uth.tmc.edu writes: > The problem now is with MX 3.3. Reinstalling did not fix it. >First question: Does MX 3.3 have a chance of working with UCX 3.3 ?? Works just fine. >I am hoping for a quick fix until I can get MX 4.2 installed. > Found the fix. > The problem I see is that mail delivery gets into a loop. The initial >delivery fails with "transaction failed" and attempts to deliver the message >to postmaster and fails. This repeats until the message is seen too many times. >There is a postmaster account that does receive mail, not this mail. The fix is in the MX release notes, which is one of the things I thought I fixed. The fix is to create a fully qualified host name in the UCX local host table. UCX> set nohost xx.xx.xx.xx !Ip address UCX> set host "full.host.name"/address=xx.xx.xx.xx /alias="host" __________________________________________________________________________ Lawrence Newton Mail Box 167 | Z999012@mdacc.mda.uth.tmc.edu University of Texas | lnewt@mdacc.mda.uth.tmc.edu M.D. Anderson Cancer Center | THENET MDACC::Z999012 1515 Holcombe Houston, Texas 77030 | Voice (713) 792-6344 Maybe we can eventually make lanquage a complete impediment to understanding. Hobbes -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 00:08:08 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 08:07:04 IST From: "Najman Kahana. Ext:77313" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: najman@hadassah.org.il Message-ID: <0099D1A9.3D3CBFC0.1@HADASSAH.org.IL> Subject: "Confirm reading" Hello. Does MX have an option to "confirm receipt" (or reading) when it was requested by the sender ? Is there a contribution which allows this ?? Thank you Najman Kahana Najman@hadassah.org.il +--------+------------------+------------------------------+---------------+ ! NAJMAN KAHANA ! Hadassah University Hospital ! thanks, ! ! Najman@hadassah.org.il ! Jerusalem, Israel ! we have our ! ! ! (visit our capital soon) ! own viruses ! +--------+------------------+------------------------------+---------------+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:12:52 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:09:05 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099D1B1.E6F11243.29@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: "Confirm reading" "Najman Kahana. Ext:77313" writes: > >Hello. > Does MX have an option to "confirm receipt" (or reading) when it >was requested by the sender ? No. > Is there a contribution which allows this ?? > No, and such a thing is not described by any of the Internet RFCs. Some mailers support that feature, but it usually causes more problems than anything else because you get receipts sent to mailing lists, etc. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:30:46 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: "S.T.Hayes" Subject: Re: Lynx2.4 won't send mail on VAX VMS To: MX-List@madgoat.com Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 29 Jan 96 15:23:50 GMT Message-ID: <9601291523.aa14482@uk.ac.ed.festival> > Do you have Lynx2.4 installed on your VAX VMS? > I've downloaded version 2.4 of the Lynx World Wide Web browser > everything seems to work fine except when Sending Mail. We are running Lynx 2-3-7, and mail works fine with MX. You need to change file 'userdefs.h', and change 'IN%' to 'MX%' to user MX. Hence #define SYSTEM_MAIL "mail" #define MAIL_ADRS "\"mx%%\"\"%s\"\"\"" ! Stephen Hayes, Edinburgh University Computing Service. ! S.T.Hayes@ed.ac.uk, Tel: +44 (0)131 650 4990. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:57:50 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:20:13 MET From: mp@zephyr.matra-espace.fr Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099D1FE.E4FFD440.19@zephyr.matra-espace.fr> Subject: Subscribing to a ML through DECnet Hi all, I'm new to MX and to this list too. My question has probably already been asked here and I know I should have checked the archives. Don't blame me but I did not want to retrieve all the zipfiles... Now, I have set up MX using SMTP (and DECnet over STMP later) and created a mailing list. This works just fine when users subscribe through SMTP requests, but not through DECnet's since there is no user on my system that holds the name given to the ML. What should be done ? what did I miss ? TIA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Manuel PINTOR | Tel. : (33) 62 24 51 59 TDHS manager | FAX : (33) 61 39 73 32 VMS/UNIX system manager for "Operations" | E-mail : mp@zephyr.matra-espace.fr at Matra Marconi Space - Toulouse | pintor_m@decus.fr STERIA I&S FRANCE | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A S S E Z D ' E S S A I S ! | S T O P N U C L E A R T E S T S ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 05:59:33 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:33:50 MET From: Manuel PINTOR Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099D286.E85A1A00.1@zephyr.matra-espace.fr> Subject: Aliases for All-in-One users Hi all, Can anyone tell me the correct syntax I should use to add an alias for an All-in-One user's address in the following form : NODE1::MRGATE::"A1::LASTNAME FIRSTNAME" Note that due to homonyms the firstname is required and therefore double quotes (") ARE mandatory. For NODE1::MRGATE::A1::LASTNAME, I just need to quote the address the following way : add lastname 'NODE1::MRGATE::A1::LASTNAME' blabla and it's OK. This does not work when double quotes are in the address... TIA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Manuel PINTOR | Tel. : (33) 62 24 51 59 TDHS manager \ VMS/UNIX system manager | FAX : (33) 61 39 73 32 for "Telecoms Operations" | E-mail : mp@zephyr.matra-espace.fr at Matra Marconi Space - Toulouse | pintor_m@decus.fr STERIA I&S FRANCE | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A S S E Z D ' E S S A I S ! | S T O P N U C L E A R T E S T S ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:03:02 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <2.2.16.19960130020032.3a5fab08@pc-185-60.osmre.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:00:32 +0600 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Rick Stacks Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: Aliases for All-in-One users At 10:33 1996/1/30 +0100, Manuel PINTOR wrote: >Hi all, > >Can anyone tell me the correct syntax I should use to add an alias for an >All-in-One user's address in the following form : >NODE1::MRGATE::"A1::LASTNAME FIRSTNAME" > >Note that due to homonyms the firstname is required and therefore double quotes >(") ARE mandatory. > >For NODE1::MRGATE::A1::LASTNAME, I just need to quote the address the following >way : add lastname 'NODE1::MRGATE::A1::LASTNAME' blabla and it's OK. This does >not work when double quotes are in the address... > I'll "assume" you mean an alias within MX (you don't say). Try quoting the address as follows: "NODE1::MRGATE::""A1::LASTNAME FIRSTNAME""" I've used the same notation when using VMS Mail to send foreign files (e.g. mail/for/noedit/subj="nothing" program.exe "mx%""user@some.domain.com"""). >TIA Hope this helps... -- Rick -- Rick Stacks stacks@adpce.lrk.ar.us | They that give up essential liberty Ark Dept of Pollution Control | to obtain a little temporary safety 8001 National Dr. / POB 8913 | deserve neither liberty nor safety Little Rock, AR 72219 USA | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 voice:501-682-0671 fax:501-682-0707 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:13:37 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:06:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Reed Merino, American College of Radiology" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: RKMR@PHILA.ACR.ORG Message-ID: <960130120623.28c1@PHILA.ACR.ORG> Subject: Where can I ask a Pathworks question? We are going to be upgrading our Pathworks from version 4.2 to 5.0. We have several questions to put to those who have already done likewise. Does anyone know of the appropriate news group for such questions, or is this the one? Thanks much, Reed Merino .-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --. | Reed K. Merino | | Database Administrator Phone : (215) 574-3217 | | American College of Radiology FAX : (215) 928-0153 | | 1101 Market Street E-Mail: RMERINO@ACR.ORG | | Philadelphia, PA 19107 | -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:55:02 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <2.2.16.19960130164743.217fc5f2@matth1.physik.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 18:47:43 +0200 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Peter West Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: Where can I ask a Pathworks question? At 18:39 30.01.1996, you wrote: >Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:06:23 -0500 (EST) >From: "Reed Merino, American College of Radiology" >Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com >To: MX-List@MadGoat.com >Subject: Where can I ask a Pathworks question? > >We are going to be upgrading our Pathworks from version 4.2 to 5.0. We have >several questions to put to those who have already done likewise. Does anyone >know of the appropriate news group for such questions, or is this the one? ... use newsgroup: "vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks" Peter ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:14:53 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: Subscribing to a ML through DECnet Date: 30 Jan 1996 09:41:44 GMT Message-ID: <4ekp4o$ig@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0099D1FE.E4FFD440.19@zephyr.matra-espace.fr>, mp@zephyr.matra-espace.fr writes: =Hi all, = =I'm new to MX and to this list too. My question has probably already been asked =here and I know I should have checked the archives. Don't blame me but I did not =want to retrieve all the zipfiles... = =Now, I have set up MX using SMTP (and DECnet over STMP later) and created a =mailing list. This works just fine when users subscribe through SMTP requests, =but not through DECnet's since there is no user on my system that holds the name =given to the ML. = =What should be done ? what did I miss ? What you missed was MAIL's SET FORWARD command. From a privileged account: $ MAIL MAIL> SET FORWARD/USER=mailing-list-name MX%mailing-list-name -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 03:20:27 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: Peter Burnett Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Where can I ask a Pathworks question? Date: 31 Jan 96 07:35:20 Message-ID: <75a_9601310741@neverlnd.demon.co.uk> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Tuesday January 30 1996, RKMR@PHILA.ACR.ORG writes to All: R> We are going to be upgrading our Pathworks from version 4.2 to 5.0. We R> have several questions to put to those who have already done likewise. R> Does anyone know of the appropriate news group for such questions, or is R> this the one? VMSNET.NETWORKS.DESKTOP.PATHWORKS looks like a good group that could be usefull to you. In my case, sorry, I ca not help you, good luck on your quest. -- Peter Burnett Internet: pdb@neverlnd.demon.co.uk 10 Parsons Close system.VAX2@neverlnd.demon.co.uk St. Leonards On Sea Fidonet: Peter Burnett 2:441/80 East Sussex, UK, TN38 9QT Fax: 44-1424-853364 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 05:07:40 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: rb@isolde.nd.rl.ac.uk (R. Brodie) Subject: RE: "Confirm reading" Date: 31 Jan 1996 10:32:43 GMT Message-ID: <4enggb$25bm@unixfe.rl.ac.uk> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0099D1B1.E6F11243.29@ALPHA.WKU.EDU>, Hunter Goatley writes: >> Is there a contribution which allows this ?? >> >No, and such a thing is not described by any of the Internet RFCs. >Some mailers support that feature, but it usually causes more problems >than anything else because you get receipts sent to mailing lists, >etc. Sorry to be a smartass but RFC1891 (January 1996!) now describes such a feature. However, I doubt that it is widely implemented in the way described ;) Richard Brodie. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 06:25:14 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: system@asd124.gak.nl (Rudi de Keizer, InterAccess) Subject: Re: Lynx2.4 won't send mail on VAX VMS Message-ID: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:52:25 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <9601291523.aa14482@uk.ac.ed.festival>, "S.T.Hayes" writes: >> Do you have Lynx2.4 installed on your VAX VMS? >> I've downloaded version 2.4 of the Lynx World Wide Web browser >> everything seems to work fine except when Sending Mail. > > We are running Lynx 2-3-7, and mail works fine with MX. > > You need to change file 'userdefs.h', and change 'IN%' to 'MX%' >to user MX. > > Hence > >#define SYSTEM_MAIL "mail" >#define MAIL_ADRS "\"mx%%\"\"%s\"\"\"" > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:00:47 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: agreig@river.tay.ac.uk (Alan Greig) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: Where can I ask a Pathworks question? Message-ID: <1996Jan31.153702.24108@river.tay.ac.uk> Date: 31 Jan 96 15:37:02 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <960130120623.28c1@PHILA.ACR.ORG>, "Reed Merino, American College of Radiology" writes: > We are going to be upgrading our Pathworks from version 4.2 to 5.0. We have > several questions to put to those who have already done likewise. Does anyone > know of the appropriate news group for such questions, or is this the one? vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks -- Alan Greig Tel: (01382) 308802 University of Abertay Dundee Email: A.Greig@tay.ac.uk ** Never underestimate the power of human stupidity ** ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:36:24 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:32:45 GMT From: John Rourke Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099D38A.98B9C95D.1@actfs.co.uk> Subject: Mail attachments Hi all, One of the users of our systems (running MX 4.1, VMS 6.2, UCX 3.1 & IUPOP3) is having problems with mail attachments. He has Eudora 1.54 & Pegasus 2.2 running under Windows 3.1. These packages pick up mail from the VMS system using the POP3 server. When he picks up mail from another site (nothing to do with me, so I don't know what they are running) which has attachments, the PC packages automatically decode the attachments into separate files. When he tries the same thing on my system the message is not recognised as having attachments and is received as one large 'chunk'. The headers of the messages from the two systems and the data in the message appear to be the same. Is this a problem with MX, IUPOP3 or something which cannot be done with VMS mail in the way? John Rourke ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:44:35 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:19:57 PST From: Bill Pedersen Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: pedersen@kpy.com Message-ID: <0099D345.C0D1A7E0.2368@kpy.com> Subject: RE: Where can I ask a Pathworks question? While the below is useful does anyone know of a mail gateway to this news group? While we are on it does anyone know of a successful install of Pathworks on to a Dell Latitude P75 laptop with the Dell Docking Deck and the SMC9000 10-Base-T chip set? The PC hangs when the SETNAME program is running to set the workstation name. I believe that this may also be the first time there is a message sent out the ethernet port. Supposedly there port is at the "standard address/IRG 0x300 and 10"... Thanks __________________________________________________________________________ Bill Pedersen | PC Service Center (KPY Corporation) | 1037 North Fair Oaks Avenue, Sunnyvale, CA 94089-2101 pedersen@kpy.com| 1-408-734-2564 1-800-458-8930 FAX:1-408-734-2940 >> Tuesday January 30 1996, RKMR@PHILA.ACR.ORG writes to All: >> >> R> We are going to be upgrading our Pathworks from version 4.2 to 5.0. We >> R> have several questions to put to those who have already done likewise. >> R> Does anyone know of the appropriate news group for such questions, or is >> R> this the one? >> >> VMSNET.NETWORKS.DESKTOP.PATHWORKS >> >> looks like a good group that could be usefull to you. In my case, sorry, I ca >> not help you, good luck on your quest. >> -- >> Peter Burnett Internet: pdb@neverlnd.demon.co.uk >> 10 Parsons Close system.VAX2@neverlnd.demon.co.uk >> St. Leonards On Sea Fidonet: Peter Burnett 2:441/80 >> East Sussex, UK, TN38 9QT Fax: 44-1424-853364