Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 00:32:45 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 00:19:08 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099D3C3.5E57C792.5784@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU> Subject: MX-LIST Administrivia: Monthly Post Posting statistics for list MX-LIST during January 1996 Total number of posts: 109 Total number of posters: 62 Total number of subscribers: 283 Last modified: 28-SEP-1995 13:33 (Updated digest info) Welcome to MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU, an electronic mailing list established for the discussion of the Message Exchange mail software. This is a routine posting you will see from time to time on MX-List. MX-List postings are also available in a daily digest format. To subscribe to the digest, send the following command in the body of a mail message to MXserver@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU: SUBSCRIBE MX-List-Digest "Your real name here" The MX-List archives are maintained at ARCHIVES@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU. 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If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions about MX-List, please contact the list owner at the address below. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer goathunter@LOKI.COM The LOKI Group, Inc. P.O. Box 9609 Bowling Green, KY 42102-9609 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 00:34:00 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 07:31:22 +0100 From: Richard Levitte - GNU on VMS hacker Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099D3FF.C01B0AFB.18@e.kth.se> Subject: Re: Mail attachments >From: John Rourke >One of the users of our systems (running MX 4.1, VMS 6.2, UCX 3.1 & IUPOP3) >is having problems with mail attachments. ... >Is this a problem with MX, IUPOP3 or something which cannot be done with VMS >mail in the way? It's most probably an IUPOP3 problem. It only gives Eudora correct results if it's compiled with the option IGNORE_MAIL11_HEADERS, according to README.TXT: IGNORE_MAIL11_HEADERS This option controls whether or not IUPOP3 will completely ignore the VMS Mail headers (From:, To:, etc.) for non-DECnet mail messages. This is something you'll want to do if all of your non-DECnet mail has valid SMTP mail headers beginning on line 1 of the mail message, or if you have users receiving MIME mail from the Internet. Thus, if you compile like this (assuming you run UCX and MMS, otherwise, refer to README.TXT), it should work OK: $ @MAKE UCX MMS IGNORE_MAIL11_HEADERS There are other options as well. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Richard Levitte, GNU on VMS hacker ! tel: +46-8-26 52 47 ! ! Spannvägen 38, I ! fax: none for the moment ! ! S-161 43 Bromma ! Internet: levitte@e.kth.se ! ! SWEDEN ! ! +-GNUish VMS-+ You may not add me to a commercial mailing list or send me commercial advertising without my consent! See http://www.e.kth.se/~levitte/anti.html for further reference. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 06:58:54 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 12:54:42 GMT From: John Rourke Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099D42C.EBA5D475.13@actfs.co.uk> Subject: Re: Mail attachments |>One of the users of our systems (running MX 4.1, VMS 6.2, UCX 3.1 & IUPOP3) |>is having problems with mail attachments. |... |>Is this a problem with MX, IUPOP3 or something which cannot be done with VMS |>mail in the way? | |It's most probably an IUPOP3 problem. It only gives Eudora correct results |if it's compiled with the option IGNORE_MAIL11_HEADERS, according to |README.TXT: | | IGNORE_MAIL11_HEADERS | This option controls whether or not IUPOP3 will completely ignore the | VMS Mail headers (From:, To:, etc.) for non-DECnet mail messages. This | is something you'll want to do if all of your non-DECnet mail has valid | SMTP mail headers beginning on line 1 of the mail message, or if you | have users receiving MIME mail from the Internet. | | |Thus, if you compile like this (assuming you run UCX and MMS, otherwise, |refer to README.TXT), it should work OK: | | $ @MAKE UCX MMS IGNORE_MAIL11_HEADERS | |There are other options as well. Thanks, that worked fine. JR ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 07:12:37 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 07:06:48 EST From: "Dave Harrold, CAM Operations, Ext. 25639" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099D3FC.510F5E40.1@campv3.mfg.mke.ab.com> Subject: RE: Where can I ask a Pathworks question? >While the below is useful does anyone know of a mail gateway to this news >group? > There isn't (that I'm aware of, anyway) a gateway to the newsgroup. However there is a mailing list hosted at LISTSERV@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu called LANWORKS that exists for the discussion of Pathworks. I don't recall the exact command to subscribe, but if you send the command HELP in the body of a message to the listserv address, it should tell you what you need to know. >Thanks > >__________________________________________________________________________ >Bill Pedersen | PC Service Center (KPY Corporation) > | 1037 North Fair Oaks Avenue, Sunnyvale, CA 94089-2101 >pedersen@kpy.com| 1-408-734-2564 1-800-458-8930 FAX:1-408-734-2940 Dave Harrold .............................................................................. David Harrold E-Mail: harrold@mfg.mke.ab.com CAM Systems Analyst Phone: (414) 382-5639 Allen-Bradley Company 1201 S. Second Street Milwaukee, WI 53204 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 07:31:18 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 08:32:10 EST From: Martin Larsen Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099D408.3DE9F4E0.8@eccvax.kearfott.com> Subject: RE: Mail attachments >One of the users of our systems (running MX 4.1, VMS 6.2, UCX 3.1 & IUPOP3) >is having problems with mail attachments. >Is this a problem with MX, IUPOP3 or something which cannot be done with VMS >mail in the way? We were having the same problem at our site. I was convinced that it was a problem with IUPOP3. I copied IUPOP3 from another site were it was working properly and had the same problem. Investigation showed that the only difference between my site (not working) and the other site (working) was that I had shut off the inclusion of header information: $ MCP SET LOCAL/HEADER=TOP:NOALL After restoring the headers at my site the pop clients were able to correctly handle attachments: $ MCP SET LOCAL/HEADER=TOP:ALL I noticed that Pegasus made use of the extra header information. It displayed the actual name in the 'from' column instead of the return mail address. I have not yet tried to trim down the number of headers to see how many or which are required. Martin Larsen Kearfott Guidance & Navigation Corp. 150 Totowa Road M/C HQB16 larsen@kearfott.com Wayne, NJ 07470 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 08:26:26 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 09:04:20 EST From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099D40C.BC6A27A0.18@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: Where can I ask a Pathworks question? Bill Pedersen (pedersen@kpy.com) writes: >While the below is useful does anyone know of a mail gateway to this news >group? I'm assuming you're referencing vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks. To subscribe, send subscribe lanworks Your Name as the body (not the subject) of a message to listserv@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu. Then, to post to the list, send mail to lanworks@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 08:40:13 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 08:25:50 EST From: "Chris J. Coats - System Manager" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@madgoat.com CC: coats@thorin.brooks.af.mil Message-ID: <0099D407.5B814590.1@thorin.brooks.af.mil> Subject: Re: help translating error message >Y'know, for a question like this, it would be a REAL good idea to specify the >version of VMS you're running. That aside, the message MAY be one defined by >the TCP/IP package you're using (which you didn't bother to tell us either; I >guess some folks figure that minor details like that don't matter, right?). >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL fair enough... VMS Version: 6.1 TCP/IP: CMU/IP V.6.6-5A NETLIB Version: 1.6B I also left out the detail that I'd been trying to translate this messsage like this: $ set message .exe $write sys$output F$message(%X0863818A) %NONAME-E-NOMSG, Message number 0863818A I especially tried using sys$message:dns$msg.exe, since the problem seemed to be associated with a problem with the Domain Name Service lookups (NAMRES). (Though I wasn't sure if dsn$msg.exe was even associated with the CMU/IP package at all...) Domain Name Service lookups were failing, though I can't include the text since the problem isn't reproducible now. i also tried using $ set message mx_exe:mx_msg.exe thinking it was a problem with MX... BTW, thanks for responding to my question. If I can provide any more details, let me know. Any help would be appreciated. - Chris /*------------------------------------ Chris Coats - Systems Manager Medical Information Systems - AL/AOEL Laboratory Services Branch, Brooks AFB coats@hal.brooks.af.mil (210) 536-3927 -------------------------------------*/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 09:13:57 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <199602011503.KAA23045@redstone.interpath.net> From: "Rich Hill" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:55:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Mail attachments CC: John Rourke > One of the users of our systems (running MX 4.1, VMS 6.2, UCX 3.1 & IUPOP3) > is having problems with mail attachments. > > He has Eudora 1.54 & Pegasus 2.2 running under Windows 3.1. These packages pick > up mail from the VMS system using the POP3 server. > > When he picks up mail from another site (nothing to do with me, so I don't > know what they are running) which has attachments, the PC packages > automatically decode the attachments into separate files. When he tries the > same thing on my system the message is not recognised as having attachments and > is received as one large 'chunk'. > > The headers of the messages from the two systems and the data in the message > appear to be the same. > > Is this a problem with MX, IUPOP3 or something which cannot be done with VMS > mail in the way? I can't speak for Eudora, but with Pegasus, the problem is a matter of specifying how far into the message Pegasus should look to try and determine if there are attachements. Due to the size of some message headers, the default of 20 lines is not near enough. I recommend setting this to at least 100 lines. With Pegasus 2.2, change this via 'File/Preferences/Advances Settings', '# of lines to probe for enclosures'. For Pegasus 2.0, you need to add/edit the line in PMAIL.INI, section [Pegasus Mail for Windows] set 'Lines to scan for message enclosures = 100'. Rich Hill -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rich Hill S I M Rich.Hill@sim.org Systems Engineer b y EasyLink: 62923838 SIM USA, Inc. P r a y e r Phone: 1-704-587-1462 Charlotte, NC since 1893 FAX: 1-704-587-1518 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [SC] Smiley captioned for the humor impaired. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 11:27:07 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 17:12:31 GMT From: "John Hill, Cavendish Lab, Cambridge Univ. (01223-337243)" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: hill@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk Message-ID: <0099D450.EF3DC7AE.27@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> Subject: Re: help translating error message >I especially tried using sys$message:dns$msg.exe, since the problem seemed to be >associated with a problem with the Domain Name Service lookups (NAMRES). >(Though I wasn't sure if dsn$msg.exe was even associated with the CMU/IP package >at all...) It isn't: SYS$MESSAGE:DNS$MSG.EXE is part of the DECNET/OSI package (the DNS in this case refers to DECdns). Regards, John Hill +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dr. John C. Hill University of Cambridge, + + E-mail: hill@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk Cavendish Laboratory, + + Phone: +44-1223-337243 Madingley Road, + + Fax: +44-1223-353920 Cambridge, CB3 0HE, U.K. + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 12:39:01 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 17:25:26 GMT From: John Rourke Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099D452.BD30E1BD.8@actfs.co.uk> Subject: RE: Mail attachments It's now working ok after re-compiling with "IGNORE_MAIL11_HEADERS" option. The LOCAL process has ALL headers at the TOP except RECEIVED John ============================================================== |> |>>One of the users of our systems (running MX 4.1, VMS 6.2, UCX 3.1 & IUPOP3) |>>is having problems with mail attachments. |> |>>Is this a problem with MX, IUPOP3 or something which cannot be done with VMS |>>mail in the way? |> |> |>We were having the same problem at our site. I was convinced that it was |>a problem with IUPOP3. I copied IUPOP3 from another site were it was working |>properly and had the same problem. Investigation showed that the only |>difference between my site (not working) and the other site (working) was |>that I had shut off the inclusion of header information: |> |> $ MCP SET LOCAL/HEADER=TOP:NOALL |> |>After restoring the headers at my site the pop clients were able to correctly |>handle attachments: |> |> $ MCP SET LOCAL/HEADER=TOP:ALL |> |>I noticed that Pegasus made use of the extra header information. It displayed |>the actual name in the 'from' column instead of the return mail address. |> |>I have not yet tried to trim down the number of headers to see how many or |>which are required. |> |> |> |>Martin Larsen Kearfott Guidance & Navigation Corp. |> 150 Totowa Road M/C HQB16 |>larsen@kearfott.com Wayne, NJ 07470 |> ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 13:34:26 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <1.5.4b11.16.19960201171014.43ff1fd4@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: John Rourke Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: Mail attachments Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 13:34:03 CST It now works ok after re-compiling with the IGNORE_MAIL11_HEADERS option. The LOCAL agent has ALL headers at the top apart from RECEIVED John ========================================================================= At 08:32 01/02/96 EST, you wrote: > > >>One of the users of our systems (running MX 4.1, VMS 6.2, UCX 3.1 & IUPOP3) >>is having problems with mail attachments. > >>Is this a problem with MX, IUPOP3 or something which cannot be done with VMS >>mail in the way? > > >We were having the same problem at our site. I was convinced that it was >a problem with IUPOP3. I copied IUPOP3 from another site were it was working >properly and had the same problem. Investigation showed that the only >difference between my site (not working) and the other site (working) was >that I had shut off the inclusion of header information: > > $ MCP SET LOCAL/HEADER=TOP:NOALL > >After restoring the headers at my site the pop clients were able to correctly >handle attachments: > > $ MCP SET LOCAL/HEADER=TOP:ALL > >I noticed that Pegasus made use of the extra header information. It displayed >the actual name in the 'from' column instead of the return mail address. > >I have not yet tried to trim down the number of headers to see how many or >which are required. > > > >Martin Larsen Kearfott Guidance & Navigation Corp. > 150 Totowa Road M/C HQB16 >larsen@kearfott.com Wayne, NJ 07470 > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- >Received: from WKUVX1.WKU.EDU by gateway.actfs.co.uk (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; > Thu, 01 Feb 1996 16:38:23 GMT > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 19:51:40 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: sbianchi@nslsilus.org (Sharon Bianchini) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: MAIL /FOREIGN Date: 1 Feb 1996 13:56:40 -0600 Message-ID: <4er5to$1j4@nsls1.nslsilus.org> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I would like some info on the VMSMAIL option /FOREIGN. Also, any other undocumented mail commands, we are running VMS 6.2 on an ALPHA 2100. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 08:27:53 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: help translating error message Date: 2 Feb 1996 07:37:33 GMT Message-ID: <4esevt$1cc@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0099D407.5B814590.1@thorin.brooks.af.mil>, "Chris J. Coats - System Manager" writes: = =>Y'know, for a question like this, it would be a REAL good idea to specify the =>version of VMS you're running. That aside, the message MAY be one defined by =>the TCP/IP package you're using (which you didn't bother to tell us either; I =>guess some folks figure that minor details like that don't matter, right?). =>------------------------------------------------------------------------------ =>Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL = =fair enough... = =VMS Version: 6.1 =TCP/IP: CMU/IP V.6.6-5A =NETLIB Version: 1.6B = =I also left out the detail that I'd been trying to translate this messsage like =this: =$ set message .exe =$write sys$output F$message(%X0863818A) =%NONAME-E-NOMSG, Message number 0863818A Actually, your original post made that pretty clear. =I especially tried using sys$message:dns$msg.exe, since the problem seemed to be =associated with a problem with the Domain Name Service lookups (NAMRES). =(Though I wasn't sure if dsn$msg.exe was even associated with the CMU/IP package =at all...) I don't think it is. The creation and modification dates for that file on a system I've got which is running an older version of VMS and CMUIP isn't consistent with it being part of CMUIP. =Domain Name Service lookups were failing, though I can't include the text since =the problem isn't reproducible now. = =i also tried using = =$ set message mx_exe:mx_msg.exe = =thinking it was a problem with MX... Yeah, that's what I did, too (after trying everything in SYS$MESSAGE), which is why I suspected it was related to your TCP/IP package. Unfortunately, I can't find anything that looks like a message file for CMUIP, so (unless they've added one in the past couple of years) it looks like that's not it either, and I don't have a system with the same software as yours available on which to check around. =BTW, thanks for responding to my question. If I can provide any more details, =let me know. Any help would be appreciated. Sorry I can't be of more help. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 21:12:39 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 21:48:33 -0500 To: 16ellenfox@cc.mice.uvr.edu (Ellen Fox) From: 16ellenfox@cc.mice.uvr.edu (Ellen Fox) Subject: ===>> FREE 1 yr. 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(Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, Ellen Fox ps. please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net who you think might be interested in it! It is a great deal! If you join and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for each new person you get to join after you join! If you exceed 25 referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for Christmas, Chanukah or any other occasion. Please be kind enough to mention my name when you join. I will then get a free magazine for a year for referring you. Thank you. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 05:39:58 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 12:39:17 EST From: Ruth Thieme GSI Darmstadt 06159/712556MX Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: thieme@axp601.gsi.de Message-ID: <0099D74F.6D86387B.3@axp601.gsi.de> Subject: MX4.1 Router Problem Hello, we just installed MX for the first time (MX4.1). It nearly works to everyone's satisfaction, but sometimes the process MX ROUTER uses about 90% of CPU. When resetting the router or shutting down MX, the routerprocess is still alive. So we stop it by using DCL-Command STOP and starting MX again. Is there a wellknown solution for this problem? Thanks for every information Ruth Thieme ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 13:20:50 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 17:31:36 MET From: Manuel PINTOR Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099D778.43CBAFC0.1@zephyr.matra-espace.fr> Subject: SUMMARY: Aliases for All-in-One users Hi all, Ok, last week I asked : |Can anyone tell me the correct syntax I should use to add an alias for an |All-in-One user's address in the following form : |NODE1::MRGATE::"A1::LASTNAME FIRSTNAME" I found by myself that I just need to specify : MXalias> add NAME '"NODE1::MRGATE::A1::LASTNAME FIRSTNAME"' And this has worked fine (I mean NAME received my mails sent to MX%NAME). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Manuel PINTOR | Tel. : (33) 62 24 51 59 TDHS manager \ VMS/UNIX system manager | FAX : (33) 61 39 73 32 for "Telecoms Operations" | E-mail : mp@zephyr.matra-espace.fr at Matra Marconi Space - Toulouse | pintor_m@decus.fr STERIA I&S FRANCE | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A S S E Z D ' E S S A I S ! | S T O P N U C L E A R T E S T S ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 21:42:26 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: dmdj@comms.moc.govt.nz (Mike Jensen) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: MX4.1 Router Problem Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 03:22:42 GMT Message-ID: <3118199d.15466056@news.comp.vuw.ac.nz> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Ruth Thieme GSI Darmstadt 06159/712556MX wrote: >Hello, >we just installed MX for the first time (MX4.1). It nearly works to everyone's >satisfaction, but sometimes the process MX ROUTER uses about 90% of CPU. When >resetting the router or shutting down MX, the routerprocess is still alive. So >we stop it by using DCL-Command STOP and starting MX again. >Is there a wellknown solution for this problem? >Thanks for every information >Ruth Thieme I also had this problem. The router process would go mad and consume mega-CPU! Make sure you have your domain-to-path mappings setup correctly. Use the command: MCP> show paths and see what you have. If the mappings are wrong or absent then router will exhibit this behaviour. On my system I get: MCP> show paths Domain-to-path mappings: Domain="comms.moc.govt.nz", Path=Local Domain="*.BITNET", Path=SMTP, Route="cunyvm.cuny.edu" Domain="*.UUCP", Path=SMTP, Route="uunet.uu.net" Domain="*", Path=SMTP My domain name is comms.moc.govt.nz Hope this helps. Mike dmdj@comms.moc.govt.nz ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 21:56:31 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 09:28:02 MET From: Manuel PINTOR Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099D7FD.DFF678A0.3@zephyr.matra-espace.fr> Subject: Router strike ? Hi, One thing I don't explain happened this morning to the MX Router on my VAXstation under VMS 6.1 and MX 4.1. I could not send any message through SMTP (MX). So I tried a MCP STATUS and saw that : PID Process name Status Agent type -------- --------------- ------------------ ----------- 00000377 MX Router Processing # 100 Router agent 00000339 MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 00000192 MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 00000910 MX SMTP Idle SMTP delivery agent 0000037B MX Site Agent Idle Site-specific delivery agent 00000191 MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) I went to a MCP QUEUE SHOW and there were 2 entries, one (entry 100) IN-PROGRESS since 5:00 in the morning and the other READY. But, though I was a recipient for the mail entry 100 I did not receive it. Hang. SHOW PROCESS /CONT /ID=377 showed MX Router in the LEF state. Under SDA no channel busy for this process, so... I first tried a MCP RESET but for no change. Then I decided to shutdown MX and restart it. It was then ok, I could send my mail... BUT the two entries were lost (I did not receive the mails). What happened ? Why did MX Router hang ? What could be done (else than shutdown) ? How could I save the two entries before ? TIA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Manuel PINTOR | Tel. : (33) 62 24 51 59 TDHS manager \ VMS/UNIX system manager | FAX : (33) 61 39 73 32 for "Telecoms Operations" | E-mail : mp@zephyr.matra-espace.fr at Matra Marconi Space - Toulouse | pintor_m@decus.fr STERIA I&S FRANCE | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A S S E Z D ' E S S A I S ! | S T O P N U C L E A R T E S T S ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 11:18:03 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 07 Feb 96 12:00:30 EST From: "Tillman, Brian" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <9601078237.AA823712888@smtpgwy.si.com> To: mx-list@madgoat.com Subject: Running MX piecemeal We're having a hardware problem right not that is preventing local VMS Mail delivery. Mail gets wedged when being sent to the mail files of users on a particular disk. I'd like to have all of MX running except for the Local agent so that SMTP mail will go out, SMTP mail will come in and be placed in the queue, but I don't want mail delivered to the local mailboxes. Is there a way to comment out the 003LOCAL... line or simply remove it and start MX without the local agent? Email ti tillman_brian@si.com is appreciated, since the address with which I'm subscribed to MX-List isn't working at the moment (the reason I'm writing this in the first place ;-) ). ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 13:11:25 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 07 Feb 96 14:02:10 EST From: "Tillman, Brian" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <9601078237.AA823720094@smtpgwy.si.com> To: Malcolm Dunnett , mx-list@madgoat.com Subject: Re: Running MX piecemeal Malcolm Dunnett (dunnett@mala.bc.ca) writes: >Just remove all the system names from the 003LOCAL line and MX should >start up without a local agent. Actually, I got brave and just removed the 003LOCAL line altogether and MX started up without a local agent just fine! Once my hardware problem is fixed, I'm going to create a startup file with _only_ the 003LOCAL line and start just the local agents. Hopefully they'll then start delivering the stacked up mail. -- Brian tillman_brian@si.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 17:55:15 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 18:51:52 EST From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: tillman_brian@si.com, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0099D915.CF3F40A0.19@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: Re: Running MX piecemeal > Once my hardware problem is fixed, I'm going to create a startup file > with _only_ the 003LOCAL line and start just the local agents. Hopefully > they'll then start delivering the stacked up mail. Even easier: $ @SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP LOCAL And it should be obvious how to startup all *but* LOCAL using the similar technique: $ @SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP ROUTER SMTP SITE ... - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 04:37:40 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 10:33:00 GMT From: Andy Harper - KCL Systems manager Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: A.HARPER@kcl.ac.uk Message-ID: <0099D999.48EEB44D.262@alder.cc.kcl.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Running MX piecemeal >> Once my hardware problem is fixed, I'm going to create a startup file >> with _only_ the 003LOCAL line and start just the local agents. Hopefully >> they'll then start delivering the stacked up mail. > >Even easier: > >$ @SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP LOCAL > >And it should be obvious how to startup all *but* LOCAL using the similar >technique: > >$ @SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP ROUTER SMTP SITE ... While we're on the subject, what about building some new commands into MCP which allows you to define just how many of each process should start at startup? I find it a bit tedious to keep editing mx_startup_info.dat each time I need to change it. Regards, Andy Harper Kings College London ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 09:49:28 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 10:42:36 EST From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099D99A.9FE4E6E0.1@swdev.si.com> Subject: Re: Running MX piecemeal Andy Harper (A.HARPER@kcl.ac.uk) > While we're on the subject, what about building some new commands into MCP > which allows you to define just how many of each process should start at > startup? I find it a bit tedious to keep editing mx_startup_info.dat each > time I need to change it. I'd like to suggest something else as well. How about negative specs in MX_STARTUP_INFO.DAT? That is, I'd like a way to say "start this agent on every node _but_ X, Y, and X. Something like this: 004SMTP_SERVER:*,BRANCH=-1 This would indicate that the SMTP_SERVER agent is to be started on every cluster node except BRANCH. Andy's method could also be used to cover this situation. I think Andy wants something like: @sys$startup:mx_startup smtp=(NODEA=1,NODEB=3) smtp_server=* My suggestion could also be incorporated in a similar fashion: @sys$startup:mx_startup smtp=(NODEA=1,NODEB=3) smtp_server=(*,NODEC=-1) Just a thought. -- Brian tillman_brian@si.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 10:13:25 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 10:47:42 EST From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099D99B.56167140.15@swdev.si.com> Subject: Re: Running MX piecemeal Jonathan Hardis (hardis@garnet.nist.gov) writes: >Even easier: > >$ @SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP LOCAL > >And it should be obvious how to startup all *but* LOCAL using the similar >technique: > >$ @SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP ROUTER SMTP SITE ... Duh! (sound of palm hitting forehead) Yes, I should have had the brains to think of this. Thanks. -- Brian tillman_brian@si.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 10:41:29 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 08:38:17 PST From: Simeon Broughton Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@MADGOAT.COM Message-ID: <0099D989.41C978C0.30@NICAD3.NIC.BC.CA> Subject: Warning -- Invalid "To" header. I'm running MX 4.2 and we are using a fair amount of Eudora. If a Eudora user sends a message to "user@nic.bc.ca" everything is fine, if the Eudora user send to just "user" MX can deliver the message ok I just get the following: > X-MX-Warning: Warning -- Invalid "To" header. > To: broughton > From: Simeon Broughton > Subject: test > Is there any way to turn off the X-MX-Warning line? Simeon Broughton, Manager, Computer Services. (604)334-5254 North Island College, 2300 Ryan Road, Courtenay, B.C. V9N 8N6. CANADA broughton@nic.bc.ca ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 12:55:20 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <2.2.16.19960208065145.46cfc052@pc-185-60.osmre.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 12:51:45 +0600 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Rick Stacks Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: Running MX piecemeal At 10:42 1996/2/8 -0500, Brian Tillman, x8425 wrote: >Andy Harper (A.HARPER@kcl.ac.uk) > >> While we're on the subject, what about building some new commands into MCP >> which allows you to define just how many of each process should start at >> startup? I find it a bit tedious to keep editing mx_startup_info.dat each >> time I need to change it. > >I'd like to suggest something else as well. How about negative specs in >MX_STARTUP_INFO.DAT? That is, I'd like a way to say "start this agent on every >node _but_ X, Y, and X. Something like this: > >004SMTP_SERVER:*,BRANCH=-1 > >This would indicate that the SMTP_SERVER agent is to be started on every cluster >node except BRANCH. Andy's method could also be used to cover this situation. >I think Andy wants something like: > >@sys$startup:mx_startup smtp=(NODEA=1,NODEB=3) smtp_server=* > >My suggestion could also be incorporated in a similar fashion: > >@sys$startup:mx_startup smtp=(NODEA=1,NODEB=3) smtp_server=(*,NODEC=-1) > >Just a thought. >-- >Brian >tillman_brian@si.com > Both ideas come under the heading "Now why didn't I think of that...". Great ideas guys! :-) -- Rick ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 14:04:01 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 14:56:41 EST From: Jim Walker Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: sysmgr@bigvax.alfred.edu Message-ID: <0099D9BE.1F2A2640.247@bigvax.alfred.edu> Subject: Re: Running MX piecemeal Andy Harper writes: > While we're on the subject, what about building some new commands into MCP > which allows you to define just how many of each process should start at > startup? I find it a bit tedious to keep editing mx_startup_info.dat each > time I need to change it. Is Edit really more tedious than MCP? I find having a different configuration program syntax for each product I run to be much more confusing than using edit to change numbers in a command line. Am I the only one? If Andy's suggestion is followed, please continue to have the hook where one can say @mx_exe:mx_start router#3 to manually start a router process called #3. I don't use mx_startup_info.dat because I key on hardware type instead of node name. Jim Walker VAX System & Network manager, Alfred University Computer Center, Alfred, NY 14802-1298 USA +1-607-871-2222, Using VMS V6.1 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 09:19:23 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 14:37:38 MET From: mp@zephyr.matra-espace.fr Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099DA84.9F795E80.1@zephyr.matra-espace.fr> Subject: File server question Hi, Is there a way to have a file server automatically send back requested packages in slices of less than x bytes ? I mean without having to do it manually before. TIA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Manuel PINTOR | Tel. : (33) 62 24 51 59 TDHS manager \ VMS/UNIX system manager | FAX : (33) 61 39 73 32 for "Telecoms Operations" | E-mail : mp@zephyr.matra-espace.fr at Matra Marconi Space - Toulouse | pintor_m@decus.fr STERIA I&S FRANCE | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A S S E Z D ' E S S A I S ! | S T O P N U C L E A R T E S T S ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 09:32:54 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 09:40:48 EST From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099DA5B.27EF3E80.10@swdev.si.com> Subject: Re: Running MX piecemeal Jim Walker (SYSMGR@bigvax.alfred.edu) writes: >If Andy's suggestion is followed, please continue to have the hook >where one can say @mx_exe:mx_start router#3 >to manually start a router process called #3. I don't use >mx_startup_info.dat because I key on hardware type instead >of node name. I certainly think Andy's and my suggestion are compatible with your desire to maintain current capability, since we're talking about SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP.COM and you're reffering to MX_EXE:MX_START.COM. -- Brian tillman_brian@si.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 09:39:21 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 09:00:43 EST From: Scott McNeilly Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099DA55.8EA0AB60.20@fred.bridgew.edu> Subject: RE: Warning -- Invalid "To" header. Simeon Broughton writes: >I'm running MX 4.2 and we are using a fair amount of Eudora. If a >Eudora user sends a message to "user@nic.bc.ca" everything is fine, >if the Eudora user send to just "user" MX can deliver the message >ok I just get the following: > >> X-MX-Warning: Warning -- Invalid "To" header. >> To: broughton >> From: Simeon Broughton >> Subject: test >> >Is there any way to turn off the X-MX-Warning line? Go to Eudora, click on Special, Settings, Sending Mail. In the "Domain to add to unqualified addresses" box you should have entered "nic.bc.ca", I think. That is the first thing I would suspect as the cause of the 'Invalid "To" header' message. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@bridgew.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 09:42:50 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 11:56:41 EST From: Ruth Thieme GSI Darmstadt 06159/712556 Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: thieme@axp601.gsi.de Message-ID: <0099DA6E.239086FB.5@axp601.gsi.de> Subject: MX4.1 SMTP Server Hi, We are running MX4.1 under VMS 6.2. Sporadically we have a problem with the SMTP Server Process: When sending a mail to the destination e.g. MVIIJ the sending MX-Queue tells: Entry: 10, Origin: [Local] Status: IN-PROGRESS, size: 0 bytes Created: 9-FEB-1996 10:20:23.06, expires 10-MAR-1996 10:20:23.06 Last modified 9-FEB-1996 10:20:31.17 SMTP entry #12, status: READY, size: 0 bytes, waiting for retry until 9-FEB-1 996 10:55:31.61 Created: 9-FEB-1996 10:20:30.85, expires 10-MAR-1996 10:20:23.06 Last modified 9-FEB-1996 10:25:31.63 Recipient #1: , Route=mviij.gsi.de Error count=1 Last error: %MX-E-PROTOERR, protocol error? Looking at MVIIJ, we see that there is no MX Server Process (why?? we started it during systemstartup). When starting it, VMS will not start a process saying "duplicate process". The only solution is rebooting the system. Does anybody know this problem and can give us a solution other than booting the system? Thanks Ruth Thieme ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 09:46:22 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 09:09:52 EST From: Scott McNeilly Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099DA56.D5A91140.27@fred.bridgew.edu> Subject: Re: Running MX piecemeal Jim Walker writes: >Andy Harper writes: >> While we're on the subject, what about building some new commands into MCP >> which allows you to define just how many of each process should start at >> startup? I find it a bit tedious to keep editing mx_startup_info.dat each >> time I need to change it. > >Is Edit really more tedious than MCP? I find having a different >configuration program syntax for each product I run to be much >more confusing than using edit to change numbers in a command line. >Am I the only one? I don't find editing at all tedious, especially since the file to be edited is quite small, i.e., the entire file can be displayed on one screen, and editing usually is just substituting one digit for another. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@bridgew.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 11:30:15 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 08:47:41 PST From: Ed Bates Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@madgoat.com Message-ID: <0099DA53.BC491DB0.2@vms1.cc.uop.edu> Subject: MAILSHR patch for memory leak patch Greetings. We're running OpenVMS 5.5-2 and applied the memory leak patch, VMSMAIL05_61. I tried installing the MAILSHR patch but the patch said something about referencing the wrong memory location. Is there yet another patch for memory leak patched MAILSHR's? (The memory leak install said that MAILSHR was a new image.) If this was already discussed and I deleted it before I realized what it was, I appologize and will be more than happy to receive a private reply. Thank you in advance, -- Ed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Edwin J. "Ed" Bates VAX/UNIX Administrator Systems Administrator Internet Administrator . . _ _ Office of Computing Services |#| / \ | \ University of the Pacific Internet: ebates@uop.edu |#| | | |_/ 877 W. Stadium Dr. Telephone: (209) 946-2251 |#| | | | Stockton, CA 95211 Fax: (209) 946-2898 \_/ \_/ | ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 01:59:07 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 01:58:49 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: THIEME@AXP601.GSI.DE Message-ID: <0099DAE3.C8E910E4.26@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MX4.1 SMTP Server Ruth Thieme GSI Darmstadt 06159/712556 writes: > >Looking at MVIIJ, we see that there is no MX Server Process (why?? we started it >during systemstartup). When starting it, VMS will not start a process saying >"duplicate process". The only solution is rebooting the system. > That error can be returned when you still have some other process listening on the SMTP port (25). Make sure you've really disabled your TCP/IP package's SMTP server. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 12:58:18 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 10:41:34 +0100 To: 21melanie@greatnet.uwcv.edu From: 21melanie@greatnet.uwcv.edu (Melanie Tsai) Subject: =====>>> *Fantastic* FREE offer I discovered on the 'net -----> NOTE: Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for more info Form." Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company. You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info request form below. IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY: Please make sure you return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the actual form below. If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.* This is necessary in order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that they get daily. Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* if your fax: 1. has a cover page; 2. is more than one page 3. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form 4. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form. 5. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only* with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard). This last provision re: no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in via smail also. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NOTE: Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week. If you have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or first class mail). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------* REQUEST FOR MORE INFO: please return *only* this section (with no cover page) via 1-page fax to: 718-967-1550 in the USA or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to: Magazine Club Inquiry Center Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept. PO Box 990 Staten Island NY 10312-0990 Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged. If you do not have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one. :) ---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED. MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <--- Name: Internet email address: Smail home address: City-State-Zip: Country: Work Tel. #: Work Fax #: Home Tel. #: Home Fax #: How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: Melanie Tsai. 021096-l Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail: Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you: Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"): *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. Hi fellow 'netters, My name is Melanie Tsai and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles. Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, Melanie Tsai ps. please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net who you think might be interested in it! It is a great deal! If you join and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for each new person you get to join after you join! If you exceed 25 referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for Christmas, Chanukah or any other occasion. Please be kind enough to mention my name when you join. I will then get a free magazine for a year for referring you. Thank you. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:33:46 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <199602121428.JAA01027@redstone.interpath.net> From: "Rich Hill" To: mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 09:26:21 -0500 Subject: Re: MAILSHR patch for memory leak patch Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU > We're running OpenVMS 5.5-2 and applied the memory leak > patch, VMSMAIL05_61. I tried installing the MAILSHR > patch but the patch said something about referencing > the wrong memory location. > > Is there yet another patch for memory leak patched > MAILSHR's? (The memory leak install said that MAILSHR > was a new image.) Here are the addresses to use with mailshr_patch_for_at_vax_61.com: ! For V5.x portion of the VAXMAIL_05_061 patch release (MAILSHR X-5A2), it ! looks like MAIL$$ADD_ADDR is at 00004B22 and ADD_ADDR is 00004A33. ! DEF MAIL$$ADD_ADDR 00004B22 ADD_ADDR 00004A33 EXI Rich Hill -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rich Hill S I M Rich.Hill@sim.org Systems Engineer b y EasyLink: 62923838 SIM USA, Inc. P r a y e r Phone: 1-704-587-1462 Charlotte, NC since 1893 FAX: 1-704-587-1518 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [SC] Smiley captioned for the humor impaired. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:03:19 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: lockington@spider.herston.uq.oz.au (Peter Lockington) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: MX 4.1 MX_SMTP dies Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:02:35 CST Greetings all, We are currently running MX 3.1 on a VAX3100 with VMS 5.4-2 and UCX 1.3. This setup has worked well for a number of years, but I want to add list server capability so I recently attempted an upgrade to MX 4.1. I followed the instructions, and the installation appeared to go well. When I started MX, however, I found that the MX SMTP process would start then die immediately. I deleted the contents of the MX directory and restored MX 3.1 from tape. When I started MX 3.1 I had the same problem: the MX SMTP process would not run. I restored the whole system disk from tape, and everything is back to normal. Does anyone know what could be causing this problem? Peter Lockington ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:01:17 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: lockington@spider.herston.uq.oz.au (Peter Lockington) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:00:46 CST REVIEW MX-List ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 01:59:14 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 08:57:01 EST From: Ruth Thieme GSI Darmstadt 06159/712556 Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: thieme@axp601.gsi.de Message-ID: <0099DD79.B3C85CEE.12@axp601.gsi.de> Subject: RE: MX 4.1 MX_SMTP dies Last week I ju Last week I told a similar problem to this list (I suppose it's the same): -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, We are running MX4.1 under VMS 6.2. Sporadically we have a problem with the SMTP Server Process: When sending a mail to the destination e.g. MVIIJ the sending MX-Queue tells: Entry: 10, Origin: [Local] Status: IN-PROGRESS, size: 0 bytes Created: 9-FEB-1996 10:20:23.06, expires 10-MAR-1996 10:20:23.06 Last modified 9-FEB-1996 10:20:31.17 SMTP entry #12, status: READY, size: 0 bytes, waiting for retry until 9-FEB-1 996 10:55:31.61 Created: 9-FEB-1996 10:20:30.85, expires 10-MAR-1996 10:20:23.06 Last modified 9-FEB-1996 10:25:31.63 Recipient #1: , Route=mviij.gsi.de Error count=1 Last error: %MX-E-PROTOERR, protocol error? Looking at MVIIJ, we see that there is no MX Server Process (why?? we started it during systemstartup). When starting it, VMS will not start a process saying "duplicate process". The only solution is rebooting the system. Does anybody know this problem and can give us a solution other than booting the system? Thanks Ruth Thieme -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I got an answer: ________________________________________________________________________________ That error can be returned when you still have some other process listening on the SMTP port (25). Make sure you've really disabled your TCP/IP package's SMTP server. HUnter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ________________________________________________________________________________ I looked for a process using the SMTP port, but could not sea anyone. So we reboot the system to restart th SMTP Server succressfully Ruth Thieme ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 08:50:04 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:22:15 EST From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: lockington@spider.herston.uq.oz.au Message-ID: <0099DD7D.3A8D0020.42@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: MX 4.1 MX_SMTP dies Peter Lockington (lockington@spider.herston.uq.oz.au) writes that the SMTP agent does after upgrading from MX 3.1 to MX 4.1. Peter, perhaps you can include some diagnostic information in your problem description. It's awful hard to diagnose a problem via ESP. What is the exit status for the process from ACCOUNTING? What does the SMTP debug log say? Did you upgrade NETLIB as well as MX? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 08:50:51 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:23:42 EST From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: lockington@spider.herston.uq.oz.au Message-ID: <0099DD7D.6E620B20.3@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: MX 4.1 MX_SMTP dies Peter Lockington (lockington@spider.herston.uq.oz.au) writes that the SMTP agent dies after upgrading from MX 3.1 to MX 4.1. Peter, perhaps you can include some diagnostic information in your problem description. It's awful hard to diagnose a problem via ESP. What is the exit status for the process from ACCOUNTING? What does the SMTP debug log say? Did you upgrade NETLIB as well as MX? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 11:38:03 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 9:31:45 -0800 (PST) From: Madison@MadGoat.com (Matt Madison) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Info-MadGoat@madgoat.com, MadGoat-Announce@madgoat.com, MX-List@MadGoat.COM Message-ID: <960213093145.25c0085b@TGV.COM> Subject: NETLIB V2.0 bug / MultiNet V3.5 Rev B TGV just announced the availability of MultiNet V3.5 Rev B. Just yesterday, I uncovered a bug in MadGoat's NETLIB V2.0 which is aggravated by this latest version of MultiNet. The problem is in NETLIB's DNS resolver code, and manifests itself on systems running MX as messages being unabled to be delivered via SMTP, with MX__NOHOST errors being reported. I have issued an updated to NETLIB, V2.0J, that fixes this problem. If you plan on upgrading to MultiNet V3.5 Rev B, and are currently running some other revision of NETLIB V2.0, I strongly suggest that you also upgrade to NETLIB V2.0J, especially if you are also running MX. You can check your current NETLIB version by: $ ANALYZE/IMAGE/INTERACTIVE NETLIB_SHR and look for the section containing the image identifier. NETLIB V2.0J is available now by anonymous FTP from: ftp.spc.edu [.MACRO32.SAVESETS]NETLIB020.ZIP ftp.madgoat.com [.MADGOAT]NETLIB020.ZIP public.tgv.com [.MADISON.NETLIB]NETLIB020.ZIP -Matt -- Matthew Madison | Director, Server Product Development | madison@tgv.com TGV, Incorporated | 101 Cooper St. | Santa Cruz, CA 95060 USA | +1 408 457 5390 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 12:00:41 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 18:53:38 +0100 From: MRGATE%GI014R.dnet@GI011L.GOETHE.DE Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Message-ID: <0099DDCD.0CA674C0.3@GI011L.GOETHE.DE> Subject: Message Router delivery notification message RE Message ID: G0000013013FEB199618503311 UA content ID: RE: MX 4.1 MX_SMTP dies Generated by node: GI014R Attempted delivery to: Userid : Z8222 <-- Arrival date : 13-FEB-1996 18:50 This delivery failed. Failure reason was "unable to transfer". Diagnostic was "unrecognised recipient name". Message-id: G0000013013FEB199618503311 From: NAME: MX%"MX-List@madgoat.com" Subject: RE: MX 4.1 MX_SMTP dies To: Z8222@GI014R Return-Path: X-Listname: Message Exchange Discussion List Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:23:42 EST From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@madgoat.com To: MX-List@madgoat.com CC: lockington@spider.herston.uq.oz.au Subject: RE: MX 4.1 MX_SMTP dies Peter Lockington (lockington@spider.herston.uq.oz.au) writes that the SMTP agent dies after upgrading from MX 3.1 to MX 4.1. Peter, perhaps you can include some diagnostic information in your problem description. It's awful hard to diagnose a problem via ESP. What is the exit status for the process from ACCOUNTING? What does the SMTP debug log say? Did you upgrade NETLIB as well as MX? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 13:19:35 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 20:10:14 +0100 From: MRGATE%GI014R.dnet@GI011L.GOETHE.DE Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Message-ID: <0099DDD7.C01F1520.5@GI011L.GOETHE.DE> Subject: Message Router delivery notification message RE Message ID: G000002A913FEB199620142230 UA content ID: RE: MX 4.1 MX_SMTP dies Generated by node: GI014R Attempted delivery to: Userid : Z8222 <-- Arrival date : 13-FEB-1996 20:14 This delivery failed. Failure reason was "unable to transfer". Diagnostic was "unrecognised recipient name". Message-id: G000002A913FEB199620142230 From: NAME: MX%"MX-List@madgoat.com" Subject: RE: MX 4.1 MX_SMTP dies To: Z8222@GI014R Return-Path: X-Listname: Message Exchange Discussion List Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:22:15 EST From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@madgoat.com To: MX-List@madgoat.com CC: lockington@spider.herston.uq.oz.au Subject: RE: MX 4.1 MX_SMTP dies Peter Lockington (lockington@spider.herston.uq.oz.au) writes that the SMTP agent does after upgrading from MX 3.1 to MX 4.1. Peter, perhaps you can include some diagnostic information in your problem description. It's awful hard to diagnose a problem via ESP. What is the exit status for the process from ACCOUNTING? What does the SMTP debug log say? Did you upgrade NETLIB as well as MX? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 13:42:32 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 13:30:18 CST From: Gary Lee McDonald Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099DD9F.E106060A.161@CCTR.UMKC.EDU> Subject: Missing mail... Date sent: 13-FEB-1996 13:24:10 Greetings, I have a user who claims that a lot of mail between her and a friend never arrives. I looked in the logs in local and smtp and didn't see them there. Should everything that arrives/leaves be there? Any clues on how to proceed? Thanks! ps OpenVMS v/6/2 on AXP 2100's and MX version id is: MX V4.1 AXP. UMKC GaryM. 5100 Rockhill Road Univ. of Mo. at K.C. Cockefair Hall (816) 235-1183 Room 2, Gary Lee McDonald MCDONALD @ CCTR.UMKC.EDU Kansas City, Mo. 64110 POSTMASTER @ CCTR.UMKC.EDU ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:00:27 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 21:44:47 +0100 From: MRGATE%GI014R.dnet@GI011L.GOETHE.DE Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Message-ID: <0099DDE4.F53E1960.7@GI011L.GOETHE.DE> Subject: Message Router delivery notification message RE Message ID: G0000019D13FEB199621485468 UA content ID: Message Router delivery notification message Generated by node: GI014R Attempted delivery to: Userid : Z8222 <-- Arrival date : 13-FEB-1996 21:48 This delivery failed. Failure reason was "unable to transfer". Diagnostic was "unrecognised recipient name". Message-id: G0000019D13FEB199621485468 From: NAME: MX%"MX-List@madgoat.com" Subject: Message Router delivery notification message To: Z8222@GI014R Return-Path: X-Listname: Message Exchange Discussion List Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 18:53:38 +0100 From: MRGATE%GI014R.dnet@GI011L.GOETHE.DE Reply-To: MX-List@madgoat.com To: X-Vmsmail-To: GI010J::MX%"MX-List@madgoat.com" Subject: Message Router delivery notification message RE Message ID: G0000013013FEB199618503311 UA content ID: RE: MX 4.1 MX_SMTP dies Generated by node: GI014R Attempted delivery to: Userid : Z8222 <-- Arrival date : 13-FEB-1996 18:50 This delivery failed. Failure reason was "unable to transfer". Diagnostic was "unrecognised recipient name". Message-id: G0000013013FEB199618503311 From: NAME: MX%"MX-List@madgoat.com" Subject: RE: MX 4.1 MX_SMTP dies To: Z8222@GI014R Return-Path: X-Listname: Message Exchange Discussion List Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:23:42 EST From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@madgoat.com To: MX-List@madgoat.com CC: lockington@spider.herston.uq.oz.au Subject: RE: MX 4.1 MX_SMTP dies Peter Lockington (lockington@spider.herston.uq.oz.au) writes that the SMTP agent dies after upgrading from MX 3.1 to MX 4.1. Peter, perhaps you can include some diagnostic information in your problem description. It's awful hard to diagnose a problem via ESP. What is the exit status for the process from ACCOUNTING? What does the SMTP debug log say? Did you upgrade NETLIB as well as MX? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:20:54 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:02:18 EST From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: mcdonald@CCTR.UMKC.EDU Message-ID: <0099DDBD.7F10DF60.5@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: Missing mail... Gary Lee McDonald (mcdonald@CCTR.UMKC.EDU) writes: > I have a user who claims that a lot of mail between her and a friend never >arrives. I looked in the logs in local and smtp and didn't see them there. >Should everything that arrives/leaves be there? Any clues on how to proceed? I would enable MX accounting and the debug file for the SMTP agent and then have the person send mail again. You can then verify one way or the other if the mail is leaving your system. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- Brian Tillman | Internet: tillman_brian@si.com Smiths Industries, Inc. | tillman@swdev.si.com 4141 Eastern Ave., MS239 | Hey, I said this stuff myself. Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:44:55 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:35:17 EST From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: mcdonald@CCTR.UMKC.EDU, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0099DDC2.1ADE4AA0.6@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Missing mail... > I have a user who claims that a lot of mail between her and a friend > never arrives. I looked in the logs in local and smtp and didn't see > them there. Should everything that arrives/leaves be there? Any clues > on how to proceed? What gets lost, incoming mail or outgoing mail? For incoming mail, enable debugging for SMTP_SERVER, and look at the log. For outgoing mail, enable debugging for SMTP, and look at the log. However, a better clue: MX doesn't lose mail. What's at the other end? - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:58:33 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 00:50:52 +0100 From: MRGATE%GI014R.dnet@GI011L.GOETHE.DE Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Message-ID: <0099DDFE.F3EDA5C0.23@GI011L.GOETHE.DE> Subject: Message Router delivery notification message RE Message ID: G000003C214FEB199600550266 UA content ID: Missing mail... Generated by node: GI014R Attempted delivery to: Userid : Z8222 <-- Arrival date : 14-FEB-1996 00:55 This delivery failed. Failure reason was "unable to transfer". Diagnostic was "unrecognised recipient name". Message-id: G000003C214FEB199600550266 From: NAME: MX%"MX-List@madgoat.com" Subject: Missing mail... To: Z8222@GI014R Return-Path: X-Listname: Message Exchange Discussion List Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 13:30:18 CST From: Gary Lee McDonald Reply-To: MX-List@madgoat.com To: MX-List@madgoat.com Subject: Missing mail... Date sent: 13-FEB-1996 13:24:10 Greetings, I have a user who claims that a lot of mail between her and a friend never arrives. I looked in the logs in local and smtp and didn't see them there. Should everything that arrives/leaves be there? Any clues on how to proceed? Thanks! ps OpenVMS v/6/2 on AXP 2100's and MX version id is: MX V4.1 AXP. UMKC GaryM. 5100 Rockhill Road Univ. of Mo. at K.C. Cockefair Hall (816) 235-1183 Room 2, Gary Lee McDonald MCDONALD @ CCTR.UMKC.EDU Kansas City, Mo. 64110 POSTMASTER @ CCTR.UMKC.EDU ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 10:11:56 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 16:00:31 GMT From: Andy Harper - KCL Systems manager Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@madgoat.com CC: A.HARPER@kcl.ac.uk Message-ID: <0099DE7E.080077F2.866@alder.cc.kcl.ac.uk> Subject: incoming SMTP logging Am I right in thinking that messages received by the SMTP server in MX do not MX create accounting files? I have accounting turned on for SMTP but there aren't any entries in the data file for any messages other than those that are sent out. I'm dashed if i can find a way of logging this... So, is this available? If so, what's the command? Thanks Andy Harper Kings College London ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 10:36:12 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 10:27:12 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: A.HARPER@KCL.AC.UK Message-ID: <0099DE4F.77483412.17@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: incoming SMTP logging Andy Harper - KCL Systems manager writes: > >Am I right in thinking that messages received by the SMTP server in MX do not >MX create accounting files? I have accounting turned on for SMTP but there >aren't any entries in the data file for any messages other than those that are >sent out. I'm dashed if i can find a way of logging this... > >So, is this available? If so, what's the command? > No, it's not, but I was thinking just the other day that that would be a useful feature to add. It's on the wish list.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 15:30:23 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: reef@xenon.che.ilstu.edu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: Filtering garbage from MX lists Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 15:29:40 CST I have been running a list under MX for several years. Recently, a number of acknowledgements to messages from the list have been returned to the list, to which the acknowldegements send acknowledgements, etc. I don't want to moderate the list, if possible. Any suggestions on getting rid of "noise" in an MX list? Best, Reef ********************************************************************* Reef (Philip D., II) Morse Phone (voice and voice mail):(309)438-5595 Illinois State University Phone (FAX at ISU): (309)438-5538 Normal, IL 61790-4160 Phone (answering machine):(309)829-9257 USA Phone (FAX at home): (309)829-9257 Web Pages: http://www.ilstu.edu/~reef/ and http://www.wwnet.com/~sss/ ********************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 17:16:24 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 15:28:31 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: REEF@XENON.CHE.ILSTU.EDU Message-ID: <0099DE79.8F5237F9.7@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Filtering garbage from MX lists reef@xenon.che.ilstu.edu writes: > I have been running a list under MX for several years. Recently, a >number of acknowledgements to messages from the list have been returned to >the list, to which the acknowldegements send acknowledgements, etc. I >don't want to moderate the list, if possible. Any suggestions on getting >rid of "noise" in an MX list? Be sure your list is set to /STRIP_HEADERS=OTHER. That was added specifically to weed out junk headers, like return-receipt lines. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 02:05:38 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: ichihara@rikaxp.riken.go.jp (Takashi Ichihara) Subject: [Q] mail delivary host configuration ? Message-ID: <1996Feb15.042526.12201@riksun.riken.go.jp> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 04:25:26 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hello We are now using MX V4.2 on our VMS (AXP & VAX) cluster. We wanted to configure to send all the outgoing mails to one mail host machine (a unix machine, running the latest version of the Berkeley sendmail program). In doing so, is there any elegant method to configure ? We are now using configuration file including something like as follows, writing all the top domain names. (mm.riken.go.jp is the mailhost in this eg.) DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.ar>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.ar>" DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.at>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.at>" DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.au>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.au>" DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.be>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.be>" DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.br>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.br>" DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.ca>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.ca>" DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.ch>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.ch>" DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.cl>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.cl>" DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.cn>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.cn>" : : Thanks for the suggestions. Takashi Ichihara (RIKEN) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 02:12:33 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: bjorndahl@vivaldi.augustana.ab.ca (Sterling Bjorndahl) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: smtp server refusing connections (but not dying) Date: 14 Feb 96 21:49:34 GMT Message-ID: <1996Feb14.214934@vivaldi.augustana.ab.ca> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Frequently (like once or twice a day) our MX SMTP SERVER process refuses to accept connections. It doesn't die; it's still there. It shows as being in good status with "mcp status". It's still alive with "show proc /all", and has no apparent quota overruns. But try to telnet to port 25, and you get a "connection refused" error. Nothing shows up in the logs that I can see. The process is still there, it's just not doing what it's supposed to do. A couple of times I tried sending garbage characters to its devices from the console, and that has loosened it up for a half an hour or so, but it is not a long term solution. The only solution I have found is to shut it down and restart it. Anyone have any ideas on how to procede to track this down? I've encountered this with both version 4.1 and 4.2. I'm running CMU tcp/ip 6.6-5a, VMS 5.4-2. Oh, and occasionally we can go for several days without it happening. Then it goes back to failing once or twice a day. I'm quite puzzled. -- Sterling G. Bjorndahl, bjorndahl@Augustana.AB.CA Augustana University College, Camrose, Alberta, Canada (403) 679-1516 full : fulsome :: noise : noisome ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 03:09:16 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: Christian ALT Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Teamlinks, SMTP Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:21:58 +0100 Message-ID: <3122ED26.80C@tla.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: calt@tla.ch To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Hello Some group at our company are running Teamlinks as client and Mailworks from DEC as server. They can't get connected to Internet. We want to find a way for them to get connected on the net. We had a talk with DEC. The only solution they see, is through an X.400 router and then a SMTP conversion. With of course an offer we can't believe (expensive!!!) We think that someone already faced the problem and could indicat us some solution. 1. SMTP gateway on the VAX under VMS for Mailworks 2. Can Teamlinks Directly interface with an SMTP server. In which case we would use one of our Unix Box as a mail server. So any information concerning Teamlinks and SMTP or access to the net would be appreciated. -- Telecom and Logistics Associates Christian ALT (calt@tla.ch) Rue des Savoises 10, CH-1205 Geneva Phone & fax: +41 22 328 14 88 http://www.tla.ch ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 07:45:16 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 13:16:08 GMT From: Andy Harper - KCL Systems manager Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: A.HARPER@kcl.ac.uk Message-ID: <0099DF30.3B4D48BC.1910@alder.cc.kcl.ac.uk> Subject: RE: [Q] mail delivary host configuration ? > We are now using MX V4.2 on our VMS (AXP & VAX) cluster. We wanted >to configure to send all the outgoing mails to one mail host machine >(a unix machine, running the latest version of the Berkeley sendmail >program). > > In doing so, is there any elegant method to configure ? We are now >using configuration file including something like as follows, writing >all the top domain names. (mm.riken.go.jp is the mailhost in this eg.) > >DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.ar>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.ar>" >DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.at>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.at>" >DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.au>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.au>" >DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.be>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.be>" >DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.br>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.br>" >DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.ca>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.ca>" >DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.ch>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.ch>" >DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.cl>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.cl>" >DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "<{user}@{host}.cn>" "<@mm.riken.go.jp:{user}@{host}.cn>" > : > : I'ld have though the simplest way was: DEFINE PATH * SMTP /ROUT= Andy Harper Kings College London ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 07:55:40 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: "Eric Rountree" To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:48:15 AST Subject: Local Process dying Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <2D1C3390D12@SBACOOP.SBA.DAL.CA> Over the last few months, my Local process has died a few times. When I turn on debugging by defining the MX_LOCAL_DEBUG logical name, the resulting MX_LOCAL_LOG.LOG file is not very informative. It tells me the number of the last entry the Local process was working on, which presumably was the entry that caused it to die, but there is no further information that might lead me to understand *why* the Local process died. Is there any way to get more information out of the debug log? I'm really puzzled as to what the specific cause of the problem is. Thanks. Eric +----------------------------------------------------------+ A penny saved is ridiculous. +----------------------------------------------------------+ | Eric R. Rountree, System Manager, School of Business Site | Distributed Sites Unit, Academic Computing Services | Dalhousie University | | 6152 Coburg Road, Room 315 | Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, B3H 1Z5 | | (902)494-1807 | | EMail: Eric.Rountree@Dal.CA | WWW: http://erountree.ucis.dal.ca/ +----------------------------------------------------------+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:45:24 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:35:50 EST From: Scott McNeilly Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099DF19.D6A75F80.10@fred.bridgew.edu> Subject: RE: smtp server refusing connections (but not dying) bjorndahl@vivaldi.augustana.ab.ca (Sterling Bjorndahl) writes: >Frequently (like once or twice a day) our MX SMTP SERVER process refuses >to accept connections. It doesn't die; it's still there. It shows as >being in good status with "mcp status". It's still alive with "show proc >/all", and has no apparent quota overruns. But try to telnet to port 25, >and you get a "connection refused" error. Nothing shows up in the logs >that I can see. The process is still there, it's just not doing what >it's supposed to do. A couple of times I tried sending garbage >characters to its devices from the console, and that has loosened it up >for a half an hour or so, but it is not a long term solution. Some more common reasons for this behavior are (1) SMTP SERVER is not running, though this does not apply here and (2) all the threads for the SMTP SERVER are in use. Just out of curiosity, what was the number of connections shown by MCP STATUS and what is the value of the logical MX_SMTP_SERVER_THREADS? In the absence of the statement that there were "no apparent quota overruns", I would have suspected that the value of MX_SMTP_SERVER_THREADS needed to be increased. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@bridgew.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:57:09 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: smtp server refusing connections (but not dying) Date: 15 Feb 1996 15:06:03 GMT Message-ID: <4fvi4r$7nq@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <1996Feb14.214934@vivaldi.augustana.ab.ca>, bjorndahl@vivaldi.augustana.ab.ca (Sterling Bjorndahl) writes: =Frequently (like once or twice a day) our MX SMTP SERVER process refuses =to accept connections. It doesn't die; it's still there. It shows as =being in good status with "mcp status". It's still alive with "show proc =/all", and has no apparent quota overruns. But try to telnet to port 25, =and you get a "connection refused" error. Nothing shows up in the logs =that I can see. The process is still there, it's just not doing what =it's supposed to do. A couple of times I tried sending garbage =characters to its devices from the console, and that has loosened it up =for a half an hour or so, but it is not a long term solution. = =The only solution I have found is to shut it down and restart it. = =Anyone have any ideas on how to procede to track this down? I've =encountered this with both version 4.1 and 4.2. I'm running CMU tcp/ip =6.6-5a, VMS 5.4-2. = =Oh, and occasionally we can go for several days without it happening. =Then it goes back to failing once or twice a day. I'm quite puzzled. I'm not sure, but I suspect you're exceeding your SMTP server threads (the reason I'm not sure is because I can't recall whether, when you do that, the server rejects new connect requests or simply ignores them until it's got a thread free). Next time it happens, check to see how many connections you've got to your SMTP port (port 25). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 14:20:10 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 14:56:54 EST From: Kamrul Ahsan Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099DF3E.4ED245A0.26@ycvax.york.cuny.edu> Subject: RE: Local Process dying > Over the last few months, my Local process has died a few times. When I > turn on debugging by defining the MX_LOCAL_DEBUG logical name, the > resulting MX_LOCAL_LOG.LOG file is not very informative. It tells me > the number of the last entry the Local process was working on, which > presumably was the entry that caused it to die, but there is no further > information that might lead me to understand *why* the Local process > died. > > Is there any way to get more information out of the debug log? I'm > really puzzled as to what the specific cause of the problem is. > My local process also dies once in a while, once in every two months. ( mx 4.1 , VMS 5.2, UCX 2.0d). If I turn on debugging that does not help. Because Local process dies quite infrequently . I would also like to know if there is any other place to look at for possible clues. TIA /\ 0 Kamrul Ahsan /\ // \ /\ York College, CUNY /// \////// \/ \\\ Jamaica, NY 11451 / //// \ \\_____ Voice 718-262-2754 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Internet: kamrul@ycvax.york.cuny.edu http://www.york.cuny.edu/~kamrul/kamrul.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 15:00:45 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 13:53:23 MST From: "Michael L. Hitch" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099DF35.6F824740.4@msu.oscs.montana.edu> Subject: RE: Local Process dying "Eric Rountree" writes: > Over the last few months, my Local process has died a few times. When I ... > Is there any way to get more information out of the debug log? I'm > really puzzled as to what the specific cause of the problem is. Try looking at the LOCAL process log file and/or the accounting log entries for the LOCAL process. I've seen two common things that cause the LOCAL process(es) to stop. The worst one is getting one or more queue entries that have the "local info" file missing. This will kill the local process every time it tries to process that entry. An MCP QUEUE SHOW/FULL command can be used to locate the bad entries. I think doing an MCP QUEUE READY nnn for each bad entry will clean things up. The second thing I see (and it just happened to the LOCAL processes here) is that the process runs out of virtual memory. The accounting log entry for the process will show the exit status of "%LIB-F-INSFIRMEM, insufficient virtual memory" in this case. Michael --- Michael L. Hitch osymh@msu.oscs.montana.edu Computer Consultant, Information Technology Center Montana State University, Bozeman, MT USA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 15:36:03 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: Filtering garbage from MX lists Date: 15 Feb 1996 19:50:15 GMT Message-ID: <4g02pn$ceg@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <3188907@MVB.SAIC.COM>, reef@xenon.che.ilstu.edu writes: = I have been running a list under MX for several years. Recently, a =number of acknowledgements to messages from the list have been returned to =the list, to which the acknowldegements send acknowledgements, etc. I =don't want to moderate the list, if possible. Any suggestions on getting =rid of "noise" in an MX list? Well, you could set the "REPLY-TO" field for the list to be something other than the list, though I doubt you want to do that. Or you could set up two lists, one which sends to an address which invokes the site agent, which then weeds out the acknowledgements and forwards the mail to the second list, which actually distributes it. I *THINK*, but having very little experience with the site agent, that the latter is what you want to do. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 15:53:12 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: welchb@woods.uml.edu (Brendan Welch, W1LPG) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: help needed reading archive Date: 15 Feb 96 16:03:54 -0500 Message-ID: <1996Feb15.160354.1@aspen> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU [being posted for someone else] I have created a mailing list called cyber-world. It has an archive associated with it (every message is stored in the archive). Except I cannot see in the documentation how the list subscribers can retrieve the contents of the archive. TIA -- Brendan Welch, system analyst, UMass/Lowell, W1LPG, welchb@woods.uml.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 16:16:10 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 13:59:17 MST From: "Michael L. Hitch" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099DF36.42B33840.38@msu.oscs.montana.edu> Subject: RE: smtp server refusing connections (but not dying) Scott McNeilly writes: > > bjorndahl@vivaldi.augustana.ab.ca (Sterling Bjorndahl) writes: > > >Frequently (like once or twice a day) our MX SMTP SERVER process refuses > >to accept connections. It doesn't die; it's still there. It shows as > >being in good status with "mcp status". It's still alive with "show proc ... > Some more common reasons for this behavior are (1) SMTP SERVER is not > running, though this does not apply here and (2) all the threads for > the SMTP SERVER are in use. Just out of curiosity, what was the number of > connections shown by MCP STATUS and what is the value of the logical > MX_SMTP_SERVER_THREADS? In the absence of the statement that there were > "no apparent quota overruns", I would have suspected that the value of > MX_SMTP_SERVER_THREADS needed to be increased. Another common problem I saw when I was running MX with CMUIP was that the "listen" port seemed to get wedged. Doing an IPNCP NETSTAT command would show the port 25 entry in a "LISTEN" state, but the "Foreign Host" entry would have an IP address in it (it's normally 0.0.0.0). I found that I could kill that TCP connection and the SMTP server would eventually get around to noticing that it was gone and start up a new "listen" connection. I think I even wrote a program that would check for this state and send me email when it occurred. Michael --- Michael L. Hitch osymh@msu.oscs.montana.edu Computer Consultant, Information Technology Center Montana State University, Bozeman, MT USA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 19:35:58 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: bjorndahl@vivaldi.augustana.ab.ca (Sterling Bjorndahl) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: smtp server refusing connections (but not dying) Date: 15 Feb 96 16:37:57 GMT Message-ID: <1996Feb15.163757@vivaldi.augustana.ab.ca> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Thanks to all who have replied so far. I did find that the number of smtp server threads was limited to 3. But I'm not sure whether that's the only problem. Note the following: $ show log /sys mx_smtp_server_threads "MX_SMTP_SERVER_THREADS" = "3" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) $ telnet vivaldi /port=25 %TELNET-I-TRYING, Trying to connect to VIVALDI %TELNET-W-NO_OPEN, Can't open connection to VIVALDI %IPACP-E-CREF, Connection refused by remote host Telnet> quit $ mcp stat PID Process name Status Agent type -------- --------------- ------------------ ----------- 00000056 MX Router Idle Router agent 00000057 MX Router#2 Idle Router agent 00000058 MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 0000005D MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 00000059 MX SMTP Waiting for # 52 SMTP delivery agent 0000005A MX SMTP#2 Waiting for # 49 SMTP delivery agent 0000005C MX uucp Intfc Idle UUCP interface agent 000003D2 MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 00000055 MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager $! No jobs coming in to the SMTP server!? $ ipncp IPNCP> netstat 8 TCP connections found IDX Address Local Host Port Foreign Host Port State 1 001A0800 199.185.3.125 25 143.43.32.81 56424 FIN-WAIT-2 2 001A1000 0.0.0.0 21 0.0.0.0 0 LISTEN 3 001AAE00 199.185.3.125 23 199.185.3.118 1040 ESTABLISHED 4 001A3200 199.185.3.125 23 129.128.238.76 1080 LISTEN 5 001A2E00 199.185.3.125 2258 205.216.146.202 80 ESTABLISHED 6 001A3000 199.185.3.125 2257 199.185.3.125 25 INACTIVE 8 001BAA00 199.185.3.125 23 199.185.3.118 1042 ESTABLISHED 9 001A4000 199.185.3.125 25 128.143.2.9 4152 LISTEN 1 UDP connection found IDX Address Local Host Port Foreign Host Port State 1 001A0A00 0.0.0.0 4855 0.0.0.0 0 00000003 0 ICMP connections found $ telnet vivaldi /port=25 %TELNET-I-TRYING, Trying to connect to VIVALDI %TELNET-W-NO_OPEN, Can't open connection to VIVALDI %IPACP-E-CREF, Connection refused by remote host Telnet> quit In article <0099DF36.42B33840.38@msu.oscs.montana.edu>, "Michael L. Hitch" Another common problem I saw when I was running MX with CMUIP was that > the "listen" port seemed to get wedged. Doing an IPNCP NETSTAT command > would show the port 25 entry in a "LISTEN" state, but the "Foreign Host" > entry would have an IP address in it (it's normally 0.0.0.0). I found that > I could kill that TCP connection and the SMTP server would eventually get > around to noticing that it was gone and start up a new "listen" connection. > I think I even wrote a program that would check for this state and send me > email when it occurred. > > Michael > --- > Michael L. Hitch osymh@msu.oscs.montana.edu That looks like what's happening to me. Michael, do you still happen to have that program around? And how does one kill a TCP connection in CMU? I can't find a way to do it from IPNCP. (Sorry, I know that question belongs in another newsgroup.) -- Sterling G. Bjorndahl, bjorndahl@Augustana.AB.CA Augustana University College, Camrose, Alberta, Canada (403) 679-1516 full : fulsome :: noise : noisome ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:36:39 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:31:59 EST From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: welchb@woods.uml.edu, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0099DF75.804FA000.5@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: help needed reading archive > I have created a mailing list called cyber-world. It has an archive > associated with it (every message is stored in the archive). > Except I cannot see in the documentation how the list subscribers > can retrieve the contents of the archive. Put the archive in a directory for which there is anonymous FTP access. 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Have Faith, think positively, keep in mind that your investment is minimal, and it's money you've invested in yourself. ***TIPS FOR SUCCESS*** Send for the four (4) reports immediately so you will have them when orders start coming in. When you receive a $5.00 order you MUST send out the requested product/report to comply with US. Postal & Lottery laws. Title 18, Sections 1302 and 1341 state that "A PRODUCT OR SERVICE MUST BE EXCHANGED FOR MONEY RECEIVED" While you wait for your reports to arrive: 1) Name your new company. You may use your own name is desired. 2) Get a post office box (optional). 3) Retype the names and addresses, including yours on a small piece of paper and tape them under the CORRECT REPORT according to the directions. You must remember, your name and address go next to REPORT ONE and all others move DOWN ONE, with the fourth name being bumped off the list. 4) Obtain as many names as possible to send to until you receive the mailing list companies. 5) Decide on the number of programs you intend to send out. 6) Make copies of ALL pages. The number of copies will be determined by the size of the mailing list. Copies must be GOOD and legible as your customers will be copying them too. 7) Prepare the envelopes for mailing. 8) After mailing the programs, get ready to fill the orders. 9) Copy the four (4) reports so you will be able to send them out as soon as you receive an order. IMPORTANT: Always provide same-day service on the orders you receive! 10) Make certain the programs are neat and legible. Re-type them if necessary. ***REQUIRED REPORTS - ORDER EACH BY NUMBER AND TITLE*** ALWAYS SEND A SELF-ADDRESSED STAMPED ENVELOPE AND $5.00 CASH FOR EACH ***REPORT ONE*** "HOW TO MAKE $250,000 THROUGH MULTI-LEVEL ORDER SALES" This report will give you much needed information to help you in this program. It will show you how you can really make a quarter of a million dollars in just three months. ORDER THIS REPORT FROM: Hilltop Marketing P.O. Box #255 Gorham, ME 04038 ***REPORT TWO*** "MAJOR CORPORATIONS AND MULTI-LEVEL SALES" Learn the money making secrets of some well known corporate giants. ORDER THIS REPORT FROM: Pino Marketing Service P.O. Box 2098 Heath, Ohio 43056-2098 ***REPORT THREE*** "SOURCES FOR THE BEST MAILING LISTS" You have learned the importance of good mailing lists. Here is where you can send for them. ORDER THIS REPORT FROM: Shaw Co. 4816 Preston St. Louisville, KY. 40213 ***REPORT FOUR*** "EVALUATING MULTI-LEVEL SALES PROGRAMS" Find out which plans work, which ones don't...and why. ORDER THIS REPORT FROM: Shannon Co. 120 State Ave N.E. #17 Olympia, WA. 98501 ***A PERSONAL NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM*** By the time you have read the enclosed information and looked over the reports, you should have concluded that such a program, (and one that is legal), could have been created by an amateur. Let me tell you a bit about myself. My name is Edward L. Green. I had a profitable business for ten years. Then in 1979, my business began failing. I was doing the same things that were previously successful for me, but it just wasn't working. Finally, I figured it out. It wasn't me, it was the economy. Inflation and recession had replaced the stable economy that had been with us since 1945. I don't have to tell you what happened to the unemployment rate because many of you know from first-hand experience. There were more small business failures and bankruptcies than ever before. The middle class was vanishing. Those who knew what they were doing invested wisely and moved up. Those who did not, including those who never had anything to save or invest, were moving down into the ranks of the poor. As the saying goes, "THE RICH GET RICHER AND THE POOR GET POORER". The traditional methods of making money will never allow you to "move up" or "get rich". Inflation will see to that. You have just received information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life. With NO RISK, and JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT, you can make more money in the next few months than you ever imagined. I should also point out that I won't see a penny of your money, or that of anyone else who participates in this program. I have already made over FOUR MILLION DOLLARS. I have retired after sending out over 14,000 programs. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. DO NOT CHANGE IT IN ANY WAY! It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to send a copy of this program to everyone you can think of. Do not feel hesitant about sending only a few dozen programs in the beginning. One of the people you send this to may send out 5,000 and your name will be on every one of them. REMEMBER THOUGH, the more you send out, the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent. IT IS UP TO YOU NOW!! WHAT A WAY TO COPE WITH THE ECONOMY!! I am enjoying an early retirement on the future that I made sending out this program. You too, will be making easy money in 60 to 90 days IF YOU FOLLOW THE SIMPLE STEPS outlined in the mailing. To be financially independent is to be FREE. Free to make financial decisions as never before. Go into business, get into investments, retire, or take a vacation. No longer will lack of money hold you back. However, very few people reach financial independence because when opportunity knocks, they choose to ignore it. It is much easier to say "NO" than "YES" and this is now the question you must answer. WILL YOU ignore this amazing opportunity or will you take advantage of it? If you do not think this is a spectacular opportunity, then please take the time to re-read these materials because you have indeed missed something. If you have any questions, please feel free to write the sender of this information and you will get a prompt and informative reply. My method is simple. I sell thousands of people a product for $5.00 that costs me only pennies to produce and mail. I should also point out that this program is legal and everyone who participates WILL make money, THIS IS NOT A CHAIN LETTER!!! At times you have probably received chain letters asking you to send money on faith, but getting NOTHING in return. NO product whatsoever! Not only are chain letters illegal, but the risk of someone breaking the chain makes them quite unattractive. You are offering a legitimate enterprise. As you have learned from the enclosed material, the PRODUCT is a series of four (4) financial and business reports. The information contained in these reports will not only help you in making your participation in this program more rewarding, but will be useful to you in many other business decisions you make in the years ahead. You are buying the rights to reprint all the reports which will be ordered by those to whom you mail the program. The concise one and two page reports you will be buying can easily be reproduced at a local copy center for about 3 cents a copy. YOUR SUCCESS DEPENDS ON HOW FRESH YOUR MAILING LIST IS. Good luck with this program and God Bless You...Edward L. Green REMEMBER: "HE WHO DARES NOTHING, NEED HOPE FOR NOTHING" ***TESTIMONIAL LETTER*** Hi, my name is Chip Johnson. Sorry this isn't a hand written letter, but I'm sending out five thousand of these and I don't think my hand could handle it. Over the past year I have had numerous financial problems. My car (a 1987 Plymouth Horizon), was repossessed in December of 1989, my phone was disconnected, and I owed my family (mom, dad, & sister) over $2,000 that I had to borrow to support my family of five. I am currently a Staff Sergeant (and was then) in the U.S. Air Force, and on that pay I couldn't seem to make ends meet. I thought many times of suicide, but being a Christian, I truly believed that I would go the Hell if I did. Now, please don't get turned off by that statement. This is not a letter to save your soul, this is a letter that will change your life FOREVER - FINANCIALLY!! In late December, I received this program in the mail. I had been put on a mailing list because for about six months prior I was writing to every Tom, Dick, and Harry for any "get rich quick" scheme I could get my hands on. All of the programs I received, in my opinion, were rip offs. They were either too difficult for me to comprehend or, the initial investment was too much for me to risk to see if they worked or not. One claimed I'd make a million dollars in ONE year. It didn't tell me I'd have to write a book to make it but, like I was saying, in December of 1989, I received this program in the mail. I didn't send for it, or ask for it, they just got my name off a mailing list. THANK GOD FOR THAT! After reading it several times to make sure that I was reading it correctly, I couldn't believe my eyes. Here was a money making phenomenon. I could invest as much as I wanted to start without putting me much further in debt, and after I got a pencil and paper and figured it out, I'd at least make my money back. I figured, "Why Not"? I couldn't be much worse off than I was. I initially set out 250 programs. It cost me $72.50 for the stamps, $6.00 for the envelopes and about $45.00 for the printing. (Shop around for good prices; the larger the job, the cheaper the printing is). I am telling you like it is. I hope it doesn't turn you off but, I promised myself that I would not "rip off" anybody, no matter how much money it would cost me. I couldn't afford a mailing list, contrary to what the program says, because I believe that prices in the program are from a few years ago. Mailing lists cost $75.00 for 1,000 names ($65.00 for the list and $10.00 for UPS delivery). We order BOCCA in California. Elaine is the name of the person to talk to and her telephone number is (310) 546-2888. She works with this project (they call it the "Green Project") and you are sure to get names that nobody else working this program has received if you tell her what you need the list for. All of this is explained in REPORT TWO when you decide to participate. I got my names out of my local telephone book. I thought it would be better to contact married people instead of single ones since married people usually need the money more. I sent them all out between December 31 and January 2, 1991. In less than one week I was starting to receive orders for REPORT ONE by January 13th, I had received 26 orders for REPORT ONE. If you read the guarantee in the program, you will see that YOU MUST receive 15 to 20 or more orders for REPORT ONE within two weeks. If you don't, send out more programs until you do. My first step in making $50,000 in 20 to 90 days was done. By January 30th, I had received 196 orders for REPORT TWO. If you go back to the guarantee, YOU MUST receive 100 or more orders for REPORT TWO within two weeks. Once you have the 100 orders, the rest is easy, relax and you will make your $50,000 goal. Well, I had 196 orders for REPORT TWO, 96 more than I needed. So, I sat down and relaxed. By March 19, with my 250 mailing, I had received $58,000 with more coming in every day. I paid off all my debts, bought a new car, and purchased a 5,000 name mailing list. My enlistment is up in 1993, and after my money comes in from my mailing list, or the next, depending upon participation, I want a house in the foothills of Tucson, Arizona. I was stationed at Davis-Monthan AFB in Tucson and it's beautiful out there. Please take the time to read the attached program. It will change your life forever. Remember, it won't work if you don't try. The program does work, but you must follow it EXACTLY!! Especially the rules of not trying to place your name in a different place. That won't work. You will lose out on a lot of money. REPORT TWO explains this. ALWAYS follow the guarantee...15 to 20 orders for REPORT ONE, and 100 more orders for REPORT TWO, and you will make $50,000 or more in 60 to 90 days! I'm living proof that it works. If you have any questions whatsoever, please feel free to write me at: Johnson Distributing, P.O. Box 7, SAFCB, IL 42225-0007 If you choose not to participate in this program, I'm sorry. It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money with little or no cost and risk to you. If you do choose to participate, follow the program exactly, and you will be on your way to financial security. If you are a fellow Christian and you are in financial trouble like I was, consider this a sign. I did!! Good Luck and God Bless you. Sincerely, Chris Johnson P.S. Do you know what 11,7000, $5.00 bills ($58,500 looks like piled up on the kitchen table? IT'S AWESOME! MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING has finally gained respectability. It is being taught in the Harvard Business School and both Stanford research and the Wall Street Journal have stated that between 50% and 65% of all food and services will be sold through multi-level methods by the mid 1990's. 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Wilburn, Muncie, IN ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:06:10 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <1.5.4b11.16.19960218150257.3f1fa1c4@gateway.actfs.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: John Rourke Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:06:04 CST I am trying to configure MX4.1 under UCX 4.0 on an AXP 3000-M600 running VMS 6.2. The machine has two ethernet cards, one configured for DECnet and TCP, the other for TCP only. I am trying to start SMTP and DECNet SMTP servers, but the DECnet SMTP processes fall over immediately after starrtup. Accounting shows the error to be 10000154 (%SYSTEM-F-IVLOGNAM, invalid logical name) How can I find out which logical is causing the problem? John Rourke ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 13:28:34 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 13:23:12 CST From: Patrick Beeson Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: beeson@uamont.edu Message-ID: <0099E255.E203CF0A.292@uamont.edu> Subject: Mail Attack or problems at my end? Hi everyone, I am runing MX 4.1 on a AlphaServer 2000 4/200 with VMS 6.2. When I arrived this morning, I saw that the mail queue had thousands of entries in it. upon checking, I saw that the same mail message was in the queue for one of my mailing lists over 2000 times! The message was sent to the list by a non-subscribed member of the list (At the time I had w:WE on the list). Here is a copy of the message headers: >From: MX%"Piano-L@uamont.edu" 18-FEB-1996 17:33:03.26 >To: MX%"72427.60@compuserve.com",MX%"73632.1507@CompuServe.Com",MX%"AA27533@gamba.lcs.mit.edu",MX%"ABittern@aol.com",MX%"bb248@scn.org",MX%"bbechtel@freenet.columbus.oh.us",MX%"bforcum@pomona.edu",MX%"bjfine@aol.com",MX%"bmedicky@IO.ORG" >CC: >Subj: NPR-petition -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: X-ListName: Pianist and Piano Teacher's List Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: owner-piano-l@uamont.edu Sender: owner-piano-l@uamont.edu Received: from emory.mathcs.emory.edu by uamont.edu (MX V4.1 AXP) with SMTP; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 17:32:55 CST Received: from atlmug.org by emory.mathcs.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_mathcs.4.0.18) via UUCP id AA12314 ; Sun, 18 Feb 96 18:12:07 -0500 Return-Path: Jennifer_Phillips@atlmug.org From: Jennifer_Phillips@atlmug.org (Jennifer Phillips) Reply-To: Piano-L@uamont.edu To: 72427.60@compuserve.com, 73632.1507@CompuServe.Com, AA27533@gamba.lcs.mit.edu, ABittern@aol.com, bb248@scn.org, bbechtel@freenet.columbus.oh.us, bforcum@pomona.edu, bjfine@aol.com, bmedicky@IO.ORG, Brenin_Humphreys@atlmug.org, bxs6@po.cwru.edu, clauritz@eosc.osshe.edu, cnagel@u.washington.edu, Connie_D_NEILSON@ohdmail.hr.state.or.us, c_marsh@hamlet.uncg.edu, d.r.moore@ic.ac.uk, danielpyle@aol.com, David_T._Shanahan@atlmug.org, dcc@hpcll24.cup.hp.com, dfaurot@falcon.cc.ukans.edu, dgayman@mci.com, dgayman@mcimail.com, dhorn@DAVID.WHEATON.EDU, dkelzenb@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu, dnewman@cygnus.rsabbs.com, Doug_Franks@atlmug.org, dunc@umich.edu, EARLYM-L@helios.edvz.univie.ac.at, emargerum@mecn.mass.edu, f.trempe@msuacad.morehead-st.edu, fehner@umich.edu, Fehn_igeol@dbl.cc.Rochester.edu, GCallon@AcadiaU.CA, grewsome@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu, hbv@mercury.sfsu.edu, hmusa@netcom.com, HPSCHD-L@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU, immels@panix.com, jamesm81@aol.com, jcurry@mozart.music.sc.edu, Jeffrey@sirsi.com, John.Howell@vt.edu, johnsond@stoalf.edu, jstrand@jinx.sckans.edu, kbriggs@earwax.pd.uwa.edu.au, Piano-L@uamont.edu, keithw@wam.umd.edu, kholt@telerama.LM.com, kjacob@CYBERNETICS.NET, leilal@aol.com, LISTSERV@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU, marilyngil@aol.com, matkins@freenet.columbus.oh.us, mbishop@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu, mhasselm@vt.edu, Neilgrew@aol.com, neilson@fsl.orst.edu, neilson@madrone.FSL.ORST.EDU, NORDSTROM@GG.csc.peachnet.edu, patsy@hpsl.demon.co.uk, rbeauregard@nova.wright.edu, RGrew@aol.com, rpf2@po.cwru.edu, schwiggs@aol.org, skip@automatrix.com, sshew@leland.stanford.edu, Steve_Thompson@atlmug.org, sunshine@america.net, Swizzie@aol.com, TBOGARD@UWYO.EDU, Tishb@aol.com, tjt@efn.org, Werglas@aol.com Subject: NPR-petition Date: 18 Feb 1996 22:41:45 GMT Message-ID: <11849725.146767568@atlmug.org> Organization: Atlanta Macintosh Users Group X-MX-Warning: VMS Mail To: line does not include all To: addresses Each message had a different time received on it. I had to shutdown MX, and fixed the mail list so only subscribed people can post, canceled the 2000 messages and restarted the queue. This solved the problem of the person posting, but I've been watching the queue and she is still trying to post. I've tested and she is receiving a messages saying that she is not subscribed. However there are several hundred of these in my queue. Is this a problem on my end? If so, how do I stop it. I've never had any trouble before with a mailing list. Thanks for your help, Patrick Beeson beeson@uamont.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:26:29 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: riddle@post.twu.edu (Norma Riddle) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Problem with MX 4.2 CC: riddle@post.twu.edu Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:30:00 -0600 Hello, all... I am having a problem with outgoing SMTP mail... in fact, very little mail IS outgoing. About 2 weeks ago, I upgraded to MX 4.2. Yesterday, I upgraded Multinet to Version 3.5b. Since then, most outgoing SMTP messages have been bounced with 'no such host' errors. We are running Multinet 3.5b and MX 4.2 on a VAX VMS 6330. Here is an example of SMTP debug output: 19-FEB-1996 16:29:40.23 Processing queue entry number 255 on node TWUV1 19-FEB-1996 16:29:43.02 Recipient: , route=aol.com 19-FEB-1996 16:29:43.03 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name aol.com 19-FEB-1996 16:29:43.18 SMTP_SEND: DNS_MXLOOK status is 00000001 19-FEB-1996 16:29:43.68 SMTP_SEND: Failed, sts=00000870 19-FEB-1996 16:29:43.72 SMTP send failed, sts=0C278024, sts2=00000870 19-FEB-1996 16:29:43.72 Recipient status=0C278024 for 19-FEB-1996 16:29:49.15 1 rcpts need retry, next try 19-FEB-1996 16:59:49.15 19-FEB-1996 16:29:49.50 *** End of processing pass *** write sys$output f$message(%X00000870) %SYSTEM-W-ENDOFFILE, end of file I do not know how to find out what sts=0C278024 is. Most of the SMTP debug files look the same, except that occasionally one gets through. We sent 3 messages to the same address; 1 got through, but the other 2 were bounced with the same status codes as above. Can someone help? I will be most happy to supply any other needed information. Thank you very much in advance, Norma Riddle Programmer/Analyst III Academic Computing Texas Woman's University Denton, TX 76204 (817) 898-3288 riddle@post.twu.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 18:36:53 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 01:33:34 +0100 From: "Rok Vidmar, NUK Ljubljana" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099E2BB.E9CE163A.7@nuk.uni-lj.si> Subject: RE: Problem with MX 4.2 > I am having a problem with outgoing SMTP mail... in fact, very little > mail IS outgoing. About 2 weeks ago, I upgraded to MX 4.2. Yesterday, > I upgraded Multinet to Version 3.5b. Since then, most outgoing SMTP > messages have been bounced with 'no such host' errors. > > We are running Multinet 3.5b and MX 4.2 on a VAX VMS 6330. Same scenario and I had exactely the same problem yesterday too. It went away after the instalation of the latest NETLIB, but then my HTTP_SERVER broke so now I have the latest installed too... :) Regards, Rok Vidmar Internet: rok.vidmar@uni-lj.si National and University Library Phone: +386 61 125 4218 Turjaska 1, 61000 Ljubljana Fax: +386 61 125 5007 Slovenia ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 18:42:36 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 01:38:58 +0100 From: "Rok Vidmar, NUK Ljubljana" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099E2BC.AAA65F7A.9@nuk.uni-lj.si> Subject: Auto-purging fails It seems to me that YES (opposite to the default) to * Do you wish to enable auto-purging of FINished entries [NO]? during MX installation leads to tiles not being deleted from MX queue directories both on VAX and AXP. Any ayes to that? Regards, Rok Vidmar Internet: rok.vidmar@uni-lj.si National and University Library Phone: +386 61 125 4218 Turjaska 1, 61000 Ljubljana Fax: +386 61 125 5007 Slovenia ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 03:16:02 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <1.5.4b11.16.19960220091240.1b971ea8@gateway.actfs.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu From: John Rourke Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Problems with DECNet SMTP Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 03:15:50 CST (repost - previously no subject line) I am trying to configure MX4.1 under UCX 4.0 on an AXP 3000-M600 running VMS 6.2 (and DECNet phase IV) The machine has two ethernet cards, one configured for DECnet and TCP, the other for TCP only. I am trying to start SMTP and DECNet SMTP servers, but the DECnet SMTP processes fall over immediately after startup. Accounting shows the error to be 10000154 (%SYSTEM-F-IVLOGNAM, invalid logical name) How can I find out which logical is causing the problem? John Rourke ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 05:14:47 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 12:12:11 GMT Message-ID: <96022012121173@ecn02.ec-nantes.fr> From: erbacher@ecn02.ec-nantes.fr (C. ERBACHER - Centrale Nantes - Tel : 40 37 16 26) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@wkuvx1.wku.edu Subject: Help to configure a hostmailer for a domain Hello all, Please, I need help to say me if what I want to build with MX_software is possible, and how to do that. So, we have many host (Unix with sendmail.cf and VMS with UCX) and I would like that all the mails coming from this hosts are sended throught a mailhost on which it will be possible to rewrite the adress for any body of the campus. The adress must look like : Firstname.Lastname@ec-nantes.fr ^ +--- that is my domain All the mail are send with SMTP (we don't use DECNET e-mail, and don't have email form like NODE::USERNAME). The mailhost for all my domain is a DEC-Alpha with OpenVMS and MX041 on which nobody has a username. For all the Unix hosts, I have configure the sendmail.cf so that all mails from these hosts are send throught the mailhost. That is good runing. And for the VAX hosts, I have configure the Alternate gateway, and the parameter zone of the SMTP configuration to do the same. But on the mailhost , I don't know how to make the conversion : username@host.ec-nantes.fr ---> Firstname.Lastname@ec-nantes.fr I have tested more configurations but have not found the good. I have tested with MX_EXE:ADDRESS_REWRITER, with MX_EXE:NAME_CONVERSION.EXE, with the both. I have define all the logicals names refered in this 2 programs and have not get a good result. The are 2 kind of problems : -1- : for mail comming from any host of my domain, * If the e-mail is from {username}@special_lab.ec-nantes.fr, I know the person who administre the hostmailer of the 'special_lab' and the mail can go out without transformation. I have not found the rewrite-rule to do that. * If the e-mail is {username}@{host}.ec-nantes.fr, I want to rewrite {username}@{host}.ec-nantes.fr ===> {username}@ec-nantes.fr. After that, I would translate {username} on Firstname.Lastname with the program MX_EXE:NAME_CONVERSION and the file MX_DIR:ALIASES.TXT. | If these 2 phases are performed, I hope having a good adress | Firstname.Lastname@ec-nantes.fr in the field 'From: ' of the | enveloppe of the mail going out of my domain. | An other interest of that is for me to have a list up to date of | all the users of my domain. -2- : for mail going in my domain, all the MX records of the hosts of my domain are pointing on the mailhost, on which, * If the e-mail is for {username}@special_lab.ec-nantes.fr, I delivre the mail to the host 'special_lab' without transformation. * For all other mail adress : {username}@{host}.ec-nantes.fr or {username}@ec-nantes.fr or Firstname.Lastname@ec-nantes.fr , I would only look after the left part of the adress (all before the at sign) and transform it with the program MX_EXE:NAME_CONVERSION and the file MX_DIR:ALIASES.TXT. 'Firstname.Lastname' will become 'username', and 'username' will remain 'username'. After that I hope to deliver the mail to the user 'username' with the possibility of the forwarder function of the VMS MAIL. I have define a forwarder on the VMS MAIL for all users with the command 'set forward' : MAIL > set forward "MX%""username@host.ec-nantes.fr""/user=username I hope you anderstand my problem. It will be very nice if anyone can explain me what I have to do after the standard installation, to make what I want to do : - which program to use or to modify : ADDRESS_REWRITER.EXE or NAME_CONVERSION.EXE, or the both - which logical names to define - an example of program (if possible not in BLISS) - and so on. Can anyone say me the value of the MX_TIMEZONE for a french contry. Thank you for you help, Claude ERBACHER *------------------------------------------------------------------------------* Ecole Centrale de NANTES | tel. : 40 37 16 26 1 rue de la Noe | fax : 40 74 74 06 44072 NANTES cedex 03 | mail : Claude.Erbacher@ec-nantes.fr *------------------------------------------------------------------------------* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 08:05:56 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 13:56:41 GMT From: Claude.Erbacher@ec-nantes.fr (Claude Erbacher) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <199602201356.NAA13723@prod7.ec-nantes.fr> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Help to configure a hostmailer for a domain Hello all, Please, I need help to say me if what I want to build with MX_software is possible, and how to do that. So, we have many host (Unix with sendmail.cf and VMS with UCX) and I would like that all the mails coming from this hosts are sended throught a mailhost on which it will be possible to rewrite the adress for any body of the campus. The adress must look like : Firstname.Lastname@ec-nantes.fr ^ +--- that is my domain All the mail are send with SMTP (we don't use DECNET e-mail, and don't have email form like NODE::USERNAME). The mailhost for all my domain is a DEC-Alpha with OpenVMS and MX041 on which nobody has a username. For all the Unix hosts, I have configure the sendmail.cf so that all mails from these hosts are send throught the mailhost. That is good runing. And for the VAX hosts, I have configure the Alternate gateway, and the parameter zone of the SMTP configuration to do the same. But on the mailhost , I don't know how to make the conversion : username@host.ec-nantes.fr ---> Firstname.Lastname@ec-nantes.fr I have tested more configurations but have not found the good. I have tested with MX_EXE:ADDRESS_REWRITER, with MX_EXE:NAME_CONVERSION.EXE, with the both. I have define all the logicals names refered in this 2 programs and have not get a good result. The are 2 kind of problems : -1- : for mail comming from any host of my domain, * If the e-mail is from {username}@special_lab.ec-nantes.fr, I know the person who administre the hostmailer of the 'special_lab' and the mail can go out without transformation. I have not found the rewrite-rule to do that. * If the e-mail is {username}@{host}.ec-nantes.fr, I want to rewrite {username}@{host}.ec-nantes.fr ===> {username}@ec-nantes.fr. After that, I would translate {username} on Firstname.Lastname with the program MX_EXE:NAME_CONVERSION and the file MX_DIR:ALIASES.TXT. | If these 2 phases are performed, I hope having a good adress | Firstname.Lastname@ec-nantes.fr in the field 'From: ' of the | enveloppe of the mail going out of my domain. | An other interest of that is for me to have a list up to date of | all the users of my domain. -2- : for mail going in my domain, all the MX records of the hosts of my domain are pointing on the mailhost, on which, * If the e-mail is for {username}@special_lab.ec-nantes.fr, I delivre the mail to the host 'special_lab' without transformation. * For all other mail adress : {username}@{host}.ec-nantes.fr or {username}@ec-nantes.fr or Firstname.Lastname@ec-nantes.fr , I would only look after the left part of the adress (all before the at sign) and transform it with the program MX_EXE:NAME_CONVERSION and the file MX_DIR:ALIASES.TXT. 'Firstname.Lastname' will become 'username', and 'username' will remain 'username'. After that I hope to deliver the mail to the user 'username' with the possibility of the forwarder function of the VMS MAIL. I have define a forwarder on the VMS MAIL for all users with the command 'set forward' : MAIL > set forward "MX%""username@host.ec-nantes.fr""/user=username I hope you anderstand my problem. It will be very nice if anyone can explain me what I have to do after the standard installation, to make what I want to do : - which program to use or to modify : ADDRESS_REWRITER.EXE or NAME_CONVERSION.EXE, or the both - which logical names to define - an example of program (if possible not in BLISS) - and so on. Can anyone say me the value of the MX_TIMEZONE for a french contry. Thank you for you help, Claude ERBACHER *------------------------------------------------------------------------------* Ecole Centrale de NANTES | tel. : 40 37 16 26 1 rue de la Noe | fax : 40 74 74 06 44072 NANTES cedex 03 | mail : Claude.Erbacher@ec-nantes.fr *------------------------------------------------------------------------------* Amicalement, Claude ERBACHER *------------------------------------------------------------------------------* Ecole Centrale de NANTES | tel. : 40 37 16 26 1 rue de la Noe | fax : 40 74 74 06 44072 NANTES cedex 03 | mail : Claude.Erbacher@ec-nantes.fr *------------------------------------------------------------------------------* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:27:24 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:03:27 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099E30B.864D5D0A.30@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Problem with MX 4.2 riddle@post.twu.edu (Norma Riddle) writes: > >Hello, all... > >I am having a problem with outgoing SMTP mail... in fact, very little >mail IS outgoing. About 2 weeks ago, I upgraded to MX 4.2. Yesterday, >I upgraded Multinet to Version 3.5b. Since then, most outgoing SMTP >messages have been bounced with 'no such host' errors. > >We are running Multinet 3.5b and MX 4.2 on a VAX VMS 6330. > This is fixed in the latest NETLIB, V2.0J, available on ftp.wku.edu in [.MADGOAT]NETLIB020.ZIP. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:29:23 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: riddle@post.twu.edu (Norma Riddle) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: Problem with MX 4.2 CC: riddle@post.twu.edu Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:12:35 -0600 From: TWU::RIDDLE "Norma Riddle" To: MX%"MX-List@MadGoat.com" CC: RIDDLE Subj: RE: Problem with MX 4.2 >Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 01:33:34 +0100 >From: "Rok Vidmar, NUK Ljubljana" >To: MX-List@MadGoat.com >Subject: RE: Problem with MX 4.2 > >> I am having a problem with outgoing SMTP mail... in fact, very little >> mail IS outgoing. About 2 weeks ago, I upgraded to MX 4.2. Yesterday, >> I upgraded Multinet to Version 3.5b. Since then, most outgoing SMTP >> messages have been bounced with 'no such host' errors. >> >> We are running Multinet 3.5b and MX 4.2 on a VAX VMS 6330. > > Same scenario and I had exactely the same problem yesterday too. It went >away after the instalation of the latest NETLIB, but then my HTTP_SERVER >broke so now I have the latest installed too... :) > > >Rok Vidmar Internet: rok.vidmar@uni-lj.si >National and University Library Phone: +386 61 125 4218 >Turjaska 1, 61000 Ljubljana Fax: +386 61 125 5007 >Slovenia Thank you very kindly for your reply. If you don't mind a few more questions: How/where does one get the latest NETLIB? Does it exist apart from the MX distribution? What is the latest version of the HTTP_SERVER, and from where did you get it? In what way does the HTTP_SERVER relate to NETLIB? Thanks much; you have given me a glimmer of hope... Norma Riddle Programmer/Analyst III Academic Computing Texas Woman's University Denton, TX 76204 (817) 898-3288 riddle@post.twu.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:14:17 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 15:56:46 CST From: Norma Riddle Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: riddle@VENUS.TWU.EDU Message-ID: <0099E334.7FFE30E0.7@VENUS.TWU.EDU> Subject: RE: Problem with MX 4.2 > >riddle@post.twu.edu (Norma Riddle) writes: >> >>Hello, all... >> >>I am having a problem with outgoing SMTP mail... in fact, very little >>mail IS outgoing. About 2 weeks ago, I upgraded to MX 4.2. Yesterday, >>I upgraded Multinet to Version 3.5b. Since then, most outgoing SMTP >>messages have been bounced with 'no such host' errors. >> >>We are running Multinet 3.5b and MX 4.2 on a VAX VMS 6330. >> >This is fixed in the latest NETLIB, V2.0J, available on ftp.wku.edu in >[.MADGOAT]NETLIB020.ZIP. > >Hunter >------ >Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. > Thanks, Hunter! And thanks to all who replied. Installing NETLIB v2.0J fixed the problem. Norma Norma Riddle (817) 898-3288 Programmer/Analyst III riddle@twu.edu Academic Computing riddle@post.twu.edu Texas Woman's University Denton, TX 76204 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:00:21 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:32:09 EST From: Kamrul Ahsan Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@wkuvx1.wku.edu Message-ID: <0099E3D8.B3264080.57@ycvax.york.cuny.edu> Subject: A quick question Dear MXers: Forgive me for asking this question. Here it is: is it possible to run a moderated list with MX4.1? I did quickly browse the Management guide but did not see much except for setting the protection on the List itself. Is that the only way of running a moderated List on MX 4.1? May be I am overlooking something. I will RTFM. Just let me know if it is possible. Thank You Kamrul Ahsan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 22:23:37 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:14:00 EST From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: kamrul@ycvax.york.cuny.edu, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0099E3F7.B15FC040.8@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: A quick question > Is it possible to run a moderated list with MX4.1? Yes, but you need to use the SITE interface, and you need to be able to write a custom command (.COM) file. If you want to pursue it, either search out my messages on the subject from last summer or fall (in the list archives), or ask me again *next week*. - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 22:32:41 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: mx-list@madgoat.com From: "David A. Hernandez Alonso" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Is this possible?? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 22:32:16 CST Hi! I have a Micro VAX 3100-80, UCX 3.3, and MX V4.2 I need to do the following: I need 2 mailing lists in the VAX. This lists must be named list@people.mydomain and list@users.mydomain the hosts "PEOPLE.MYDOMAIN" and "USERS.MYDOMAIN" are on the same machine (the MicroVAX, this are the same machine) i got this defining an alias on the DNS Then i make a path that tells me : Domain="PEOPLE.MYDOMAIN", Path=Local Domain="USERS.MYDOMAIN", Path=Local This for the MX recognizes me this alias. Well, how can I make this, using the names described ("list@people.mydomain" and "list@users.mydomain") but in the same host ("realhost.mydomain"). I make two lists (list1 and list2) and then make an alias on the MX that tells me: Aliases: LocalName="LIST@PEOPLE.MYDOMAIN" , Address="LIST1@REALHOST.MYDOMAIN" LocalName="LIST@USERS.MYDOMAIN" , Address="LIST2@REALHOST.MYDOMAIN And I supose that sending a mail to list@people.mydomain is going to list1@realhost.mydomain. and sending a mail to list@users.mydomain is going to list2@realhost.mydomain. This because I want tell my users the list to they need to send comments, but I want that the names be diferent, this be diferent on the domain, but this in the same machine Thanks in advance!! ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 00:06:04 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 15:27:12 EST From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: Claude.Erbacher@ec-nantes.fr Message-ID: <0099E330.5EB53680.55@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: Help to configure a hostmailer for a domain Claude.Erbacher( Claude.Erbacher@ec-nantes.fr) writes: > -2- : for mail going in my domain, all the MX records of the hosts of my > domain are pointing on the mailhost, on which, <...snip...> > * For all other mail adress : {username}@{host}.ec-nantes.fr or > {username}@ec-nantes.fr or Firstname.Lastname@ec-nantes.fr , I would > only look after the left part of the adress (all before the at sign) > and transform it with the program MX_EXE:NAME_CONVERSION and the file > MX_DIR:ALIASES.TXT. 'Firstname.Lastname' will become 'username', and > 'username' will remain 'username'. Personally, what I think you might find the most effective for this part is to have your VMS/MX system recognize ec-nantes.fr as a local address and have "Firstname.Lastname" aliases defined in VMSMAIL_PROFILE.DATA, like this: MAIL> set forward/use=lastname.firstname mx%"""username@host.ec-nantes.fr""" -----------------------------+-------------------------------- Brian Tillman | Internet: tillman_brian@si.com Smiths Industries, Inc. | tillman@swdev.si.com 4141 Eastern Ave., MS239 | Hey, I said this stuff myself. Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 03:27:27 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:07:56 GMT From: chris@ccagroup.co.uk Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu CC: chris@ccastat.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <0099E3EE.768B69A0.118@ccastat.demon.co.uk> Subject: 1. Mail header trimming; 2. Lynx 1. Is there anything available to trim some of the (mostly) uninteresting header info from incoming mail ? Either an MX option or some extra software that works with it ? 2. Has anyone got a working copy of Lynx or another Web browser for dumb terminals please ? I'd like one ideally using the SOCKETSHR interface, compiled for VMS 6.1. We've got dumb terminals (VT220-520) and VAXes, and may even get an Alpha soon. We don't have a C compiler (we use Pascal). We use UCX on one node, but originally it didn't support SLIP, so we've got CMU/IP on another node. We're still not using UCX to talk to the internet, mostly because we're not sure how, or even whether we can. We have a dial-up modem link, and one registered internet address - the rest of our internal addresses are unregistered. We get around this with CMU/IP by not configuring the ethernet. Can UCX V4.0 be configured to not gateway the rest of our addresses, but to conceal them ? Thanks, Chris Sharman, CCA Stationery, Eastway, Fulwood, Preston, UK. Tel 01772 662880 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 03:39:37 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:07:56 GMT From: chris@ccagroup.co.uk Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu CC: chris@ccastat.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <0099E3EE.768B69A0.118@ccastat.demon.co.uk> Subject: 1. Mail header trimming; 2. Lynx 1. Is there anything available to trim some of the (mostly) uninteresting header info from incoming mail ? Either an MX option or some extra software that works with it ? 2. Has anyone got a working copy of Lynx or another Web browser for dumb terminals please ? I'd like one ideally using the SOCKETSHR interface, compiled for VMS 6.1. We've got dumb terminals (VT220-520) and VAXes, and may even get an Alpha soon. We don't have a C compiler (we use Pascal). We use UCX on one node, but originally it didn't support SLIP, so we've got CMU/IP on another node. We're still not using UCX to talk to the internet, mostly because we're not sure how, or even whether we can. We have a dial-up modem link, and one registered internet address - the rest of our internal addresses are unregistered. We get around this with CMU/IP by not configuring the ethernet. Can UCX V4.0 be configured to not gateway the rest of our addresses, but to conceal them ? Thanks, Chris Sharman, CCA Stationery, Eastway, Fulwood, Preston, UK. Tel 01772 662880 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 03:44:03 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:07:56 GMT From: chris@ccagroup.co.uk Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu CC: chris@ccastat.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <0099E3EE.768B69A0.118@ccastat.demon.co.uk> Subject: 1. Mail header trimming; 2. Lynx 1. Is there anything available to trim some of the (mostly) uninteresting header info from incoming mail ? Either an MX option or some extra software that works with it ? 2. Has anyone got a working copy of Lynx or another Web browser for dumb terminals please ? I'd like one ideally using the SOCKETSHR interface, compiled for VMS 6.1. We've got dumb terminals (VT220-520) and VAXes, and may even get an Alpha soon. We don't have a C compiler (we use Pascal). We use UCX on one node, but originally it didn't support SLIP, so we've got CMU/IP on another node. We're still not using UCX to talk to the internet, mostly because we're not sure how, or even whether we can. We have a dial-up modem link, and one registered internet address - the rest of our internal addresses are unregistered. We get around this with CMU/IP by not configuring the ethernet. Can UCX V4.0 be configured to not gateway the rest of our addresses, but to conceal them ? Thanks, Chris Sharman, CCA Stationery, Eastway, Fulwood, Preston, UK. Tel 01772 662880 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 03:46:59 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:07:56 GMT From: chris@ccagroup.co.uk Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu CC: chris@ccastat.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <0099E3EE.768B69A0.118@ccastat.demon.co.uk> Subject: 1. Mail header trimming; 2. Lynx 1. Is there anything available to trim some of the (mostly) uninteresting header info from incoming mail ? Either an MX option or some extra software that works with it ? 2. Has anyone got a working copy of Lynx or another Web browser for dumb terminals please ? I'd like one ideally using the SOCKETSHR interface, compiled for VMS 6.1. We've got dumb terminals (VT220-520) and VAXes, and may even get an Alpha soon. We don't have a C compiler (we use Pascal). We use UCX on one node, but originally it didn't support SLIP, so we've got CMU/IP on another node. We're still not using UCX to talk to the internet, mostly because we're not sure how, or even whether we can. We have a dial-up modem link, and one registered internet address - the rest of our internal addresses are unregistered. We get around this with CMU/IP by not configuring the ethernet. Can UCX V4.0 be configured to not gateway the rest of our addresses, but to conceal them ? Thanks, Chris Sharman, CCA Stationery, Eastway, Fulwood, Preston, UK. Tel 01772 662880 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 08:50:54 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:12:05 EST From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099E48E.4C510F00.29@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: 1. Mail header trimming; 2. Lynx >1. Is there anything available to trim some of the (mostly) uninteresting >header info from incoming mail ? Either an MX option or some extra software >that works with it ? Of course. See your MX documentation. Specifically, see pages MCP-37 through MCP-38 in the MX Management Guide. >2. Has anyone got a working copy of Lynx or another Web browser for dumb >terminals please ? I'd like one ideally using the SOCKETSHR interface, compiled >for VMS 6.1. Of course. See: http://www.wfeb.edu/dir/lynx or gopher://gopher.wfeb.edu/11/_fileserv/_lynx or ftp://ftp.hhs.dk/fote_mirror ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:25:02 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:45:53 EST From: Scott McNeilly Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099E493.0517C660.68@fred.bridgew.edu> Subject: RE: Help to configure a hostmailer for a domain Claude.Erbacher@ec-nantes.fr writes: [snip] > But on the mailhost , I don't know how to make the conversion : > username@host.ec-nantes.fr ---> Firstname.Lastname@ec-nantes.fr Why not DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC MX_VMSMAIL_LOCALHOST "@ec-nantes.fr" ? >I have tested more configurations but have not found the good. I have >tested with MX_EXE:ADDRESS_REWRITER, with MX_EXE:NAME_CONVERSION.EXE, with >the both. I have define all the logicals names refered in this 2 programs >and have not get a good result. I think those programs operate on the TO: address, not the FROM: address. > After that I hope to deliver the mail to the user 'username' with the > possibility of the forwarder function of the VMS MAIL. I have define > a forwarder on the VMS MAIL for all users with the command > 'set forward' : > MAIL > set forward "MX%""username@host.ec-nantes.fr""/user=username Sounds good to me! >Can anyone say me the value of the MX_TIMEZONE for a french contry. I think the following is what you need: DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC MX_TIMEZONE "+0100" -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@bridgew.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:27:12 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: From: "MIKE SMITH" To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:09:02 AST Subject: Re: Help to configure a hostmailer for a domain Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU > So, we have many host (Unix with sendmail.cf and VMS with UCX) > and I would like that all the mails coming from this hosts are sended > throught a mailhost on which it will be possible to rewrite the adress > for any body of the campus. The adress must look like : > Firstname.Lastname@ec-nantes.fr > ^ > +--- that is my domain Hello, We jsut did this at our site. First create a rwrite rule for the site doamin to your mailer machine. MCP> Define Rewrite "<{u}@nsac.ns.ca>" => "<{u}@ac.nsac.ns.ca>" At this point whatever is comming in on the domain name will be looked up as a local user, however it checks for alias' first. MCP> Define Alias mike.smith msmiith@localhost.domain when I do a mcp show alias mine reads LocalName="REG_INFO", Address="LSIBLEY@CADMIN.NSAC.NS.CA" LocalName="MIKE.SMITH", Address="MSMITH@CADMIN.NSAC.NS.CA" LocalName="RANDY.RAYMOND", Address="RRAYMOND@CADMIN.NSAC.NS.CA" Reg_info being our local resister here at the college and then my self and another user just as examples. Hope this helps, Mike *************************************************** Micheal W. Smith Nova Scotia Department of Agriculture & Marketing Computer Services Officer Internet: Mike.Smith@NSAC.NS.CA Phone : (902) 893-6178 Fax : (902) 893-0335 **************************************************** ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:31:07 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: Problem with MX 4.2 Message-ID: <1996Feb22.091309.22026@montagar> Date: 22 Feb 96 09:13:09 CDT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article , riddle@post.twu.edu (Norma Riddle) writes: >>> We are running Multinet 3.5b and MX 4.2 on a VAX VMS 6330. >> >> Same scenario and I had exactely the same problem yesterday too. It went >>away after the instalation of the latest NETLIB, but then my HTTP_SERVER >>broke so now I have the latest installed too... :) > > Thank you very kindly for your reply. If you don't mind a few more > questions: How/where does one get the latest NETLIB? Does it exist apart > from the MX distribution? What is the latest version of the HTTP_SERVER, > and from where did you get it? In what way does the HTTP_SERVER relate to > NETLIB? Excellent. I had the same problem here. SMTP outbound totally failed on me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - David L. Cathey |Inet: davidc@montagar.com Montagar Software Concepts |UUCP: ...!montagar!davidc P. O. Box 260776 |Fone: (214)-578-5036 Plano TX 75026-0772 |http://www.montagar.com/~davidc/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 06:14:44 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: From: "MIKE SMITH" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:08:11 AST Subject: RCPT: Re: Help to configure a hostmailer for a doma Confirmation of reading: your message - Date: 22 Feb 96 14:09 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: Help to configure a hostmailer for a domain Was read at 8:08, 23 Feb 96. *************************************************** Micheal W. Smith Nova Scotia Department of Agriculture & Marketing Computer Services Officer Internet: Mike.Smith@NSAC.NS.CA Phone : (902) 893-6178 Fax : (902) 893-0335 **************************************************** ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:00:15 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 09:59:15 CST From: Dave Miller Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099E55E.0D9EBF22.1@BEAVER.Bemidji.MSUS.edu> Subject: Moving MX Folks: I'm going to move MX to another drive -- right now its on SYS$SYSDEVICE -- to balance the disk load better. I'm looking for things that need to be changed -- I'd rather not re-install. Here's what I've found so far. 1. SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP.COM refers to SYS$SYSDEVICE:[MX.EXE]MX___STARTUP. 2. In MX_ROOT, a line (MLF?) refers to SYS$SYSDEVICE (instead of MX_ROOT? wonder why) So I figure I can 1. MCP SHUT/CLUS 2. BACKUP the MX structure to the new disk 3. Edit the two file above and 4. Restart MX. Can it be that simple?? TIA //----------\|/------\\ Dave Miller. || /\ -X- || Professor, Computer Science. || / \ /|/\ || || / \ / \ || SYSTEM@BEAVER.Bemidji.MSUS.EDU || / \ \ || || /________\____\ || 1500 Birchmont Dr. NE || || || || Bemidji State University \\------|| -------// Bemidji MN, 56601 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 12:42:10 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 12:39:00 CST From: Dave Miller Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099E574.5EB15CBA.6@BEAVER.Bemidji.MSUS.edu> Subject: RE: Moving MX Earlier I asked ... > I'm going to move MX to another drive -- right now its on SYS$SYSDEVICE > -- to balance the disk load better. > > I'm looking for things that need to be changed -- I'd rather not > re-install. On second thought, I'm running 4.1 now, so maybe I should update. But the question remains .. should I move the existing MX_ROOT structure first? And change the logicals to point to the new location prior to upgrade? I mean, the upgrade procedure isn't smart enough to move my existing MX system, is it? Still perplexed ... //----------\|/------\\ Dave Miller. || /\ -X- || Professor, Computer Science. || / \ /|/\ || || / \ / \ || SYSTEM@BEAVER.Bemidji.MSUS.EDU || / \ \ || || /________\____\ || 1500 Birchmont Dr. NE || || || || Bemidji State University \\------|| -------// Bemidji MN, 56601 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 12:51:13 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:47:07 +0100 From: "Rok Vidmar, NUK Ljubljana" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099E5B0.2D5DA7DE.12@nuk.uni-lj.si> Subject: RE: Moving MX > I'm going to move MX to another drive -- right now its on SYS$SYSDEVICE > -- to balance the disk load better. > > I'm looking for things that need to be changed -- I'd rather not > re-install. Here's what I've found so far. > > 1. SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP.COM refers to > SYS$SYSDEVICE:[MX.EXE]MX___STARTUP. > > 2. In MX_ROOT, a line (MLF?) refers to SYS$SYSDEVICE (instead of > MX_ROOT? wonder why) You mean MX_DIR:MX_LOGICALS.DAT, don't you? > So I figure I can > > 1. MCP SHUT/CLUS > 2. BACKUP the MX structure to the new disk > 3. Edit the two file above and > 4. Restart MX. Exactely. > Can it be that simple?? It is not simple because you have to edit *two* files instead of *one* !-) Hunter? Regards, Rok Vidmar Internet: rok.vidmar@uni-lj.si National and University Library Phone: +386 61 125 4218 Turjaska 1, 61000 Ljubljana Fax: +386 61 125 5007 Slovenia ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 13:43:51 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:41:02 EST From: Scott McNeilly Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099E585.6ACF1E20.69@fred.bridgew.edu> Subject: RE: Moving MX Dave Miller writes: >Folks: > >I'm going to move MX to another drive -- right now its on SYS$SYSDEVICE >-- to balance the disk load better. > >I'm looking for things that need to be changed -- I'd rather not >re-install. Here's what I've found so far. > >1. SYS$STARTUP:MX_STARTUP.COM refers to > SYS$SYSDEVICE:[MX.EXE]MX___STARTUP. > >2. In MX_ROOT, a line (MLF?) refers to SYS$SYSDEVICE (instead of > MX_ROOT? wonder why) > If you are referring to MX_LOGICALS.DAT here, then I think you have found everything that needs to be changed. I haven't tried this myself, so no guarantees. Perhaps we will hear from some one who has done it before. In any event, I think you need to change MX_LOGICALS.DAT in addtion to what you have mentioned. >So I figure I can > >1. MCP SHUT/CLUS >2. BACKUP the MX structure to the new disk >3. Edit the two file above and >4. Restart MX. > >Can it be that simple?? -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@bridgew.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:43:58 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:41:11 EST From: Jim Stratton Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: stratton@rainbw.quantic.com Message-ID: <0099E58D.D25278A0.5@rainbw.quantic.com> Subject: RE: Moving MX >Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 12:39:00 CST >From: Dave Miller > >Earlier I asked ... > >> I'm going to move MX to another drive [snip] >On second thought, I'm running 4.1 now, so maybe I should update. [snip] I've never had to move MX nor update it, but I'd suggest you move OR update and allow some time (a week or two) between the two. If you do both at once and something breaks, it'll be twice as hard to figure out what happened... Jim ------------------------------------------------------------------- The alternative to addressing the year 2000 will be going out of business. Kevin Schick, The Gartner Group ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Stratton Internet: stratton@quantic.com Quantic Communications, Inc. Telephone: (508) 681-1543 3 Riverside Drive Fax: (508) 681-1604 Andover, MA 01810-1198 WWW: http://www.quantic.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:06:35 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:02:39 CST From: Dave Miller Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099E588.70430F32.3@BEAVER.Bemidji.MSUS.edu> Subject: RE: Moving MX > From: "Rok Vidmar, NUK Ljubljana" > > 2. In MX_ROOT, a line (MLF?) refers to SYS$SYSDEVICE (instead of > > MX_ROOT? wonder why) > > You mean MX_DIR:MX_LOGICALS.DAT, don't you? Yep, that's right. Thanks. dave. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:00:47 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: 1. Mail header trimming; 2. Lynx Date: 23 Feb 1996 16:22:29 GMT Message-ID: <4gkpk6$4ce@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0099E3EE.768B69A0.118@ccastat.demon.co.uk>, chris@ccagroup.co.uk writes: #1. Is there anything available to trim some of the (mostly) uninteresting header #info from incoming mail ? Either an MX option or some extra software that works #with it ? MCP> MODIFY LOCAL/HEADER=(NOOTHER) #2. Has anyone got a working copy of Lynx or another Web browser for dumb #terminals please ? I'd like one ideally using the SOCKETSHR interface, compiled #for VMS 6.1. Check ftp.spc.edu in [.MULTINET-CONTRIBUTED-SOFTWARE.APPLICATIONS.LYNX], or look on your MultiNet CD-ROM in the [.CONTRIBUTED-SOFTWARE.APPLICATIONS.LYNX] directory. There's versions there for MultiNet and UCX on a VAX, and MultiNet on an Alpha. #We've got dumb terminals (VT220-520) and VAXes, and may even get an Alpha soon. #We don't have a C compiler (we use Pascal). We use UCX on one node, but #originally it didn't support SLIP, so we've got CMU/IP on another node. We're #still not using UCX to talk to the internet, mostly because we're not sure how, #or even whether we can. We have a dial-up modem link, and one registered #internet address - the rest of our internal addresses are unregistered. We get #around this with CMU/IP by not configuring the ethernet. Can UCX V4.0 be #configured to not gateway the rest of our addresses, but to conceal them ? I'm sure it can. -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 04:45:48 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: left@www4.clever.net (EXPERT SPORTS) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: EXPERT SPORTS ANALYSTS Date: 24 Feb 1996 09:20:59 GMT Message-ID: <4gml9r$19a5@hearst.cac.psu.edu> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU EXPERT SPORTS ANALYSTS Best Picks in the Country Pro and College Games 1-900-454-0110 ext 245 $ 2.95/min Avg 4 min 18+ Avalon Comm (305) 525-0800 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 14:16:00 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 12:05:19 -0800 Message-ID: <96022412051973@road.ci.portland.or.us> From: stana@road.ci.portland.or.us Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu Subject: Mail address question Hello, I'm new to this list (an MX also). I'm in an intranet domain called "trans.city". Another bureau is in the domain "bis.city". Is it possible with MX v4.1 to to send mail to "User@bis" from "trans.city" and have the message go to "User@linux1.bis.city" instead of to "User@bis.trans.city"? I am using VAX/Alpha OpenVMS cluster running v6.1. I have a DNS server running on VAX using UCX v4.0. Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA _Stan A_ ! Stanton L. Archer, Sr. Systems Programmer (503) 823-7174 ! City of Portland, Office of Transportation, Systems Engineering ! Portland, Oregon ! Internet: stana@syseng.ci.portland.or.us, ! stantona@msn.com, stantona@hevanet.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 03:53:59 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 09:47:35 +0900 To: allison.eng14@uwcr.edu From: allison.eng14@uwcr.edu (Allison Eng) Subject: ===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 295+ Popular USA Titles -----> NOTE: Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for more info Form." Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company. You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info request form below. IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY: Please make sure you return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the actual form below. If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.* This is necessary in order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that they get daily. Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* if your fax: 1. has a cover page; 2. is more than one page 3. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form 4. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form. 5. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only* with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard). This last provision re: no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in via smail also. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NOTE: Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week. If you have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or first class mail). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------* REQUEST FOR MORE INFO: please return *only* this section (with no cover page) via 1-page fax to: 718-967-1550 in the USA or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to: Magazine Club Inquiry Center Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept. PO Box 990 Staten Island NY 10312-0990 Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged. If you do not have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one. :) ---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED. MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <--- Name: Internet email address: Smail home address: City-State-Zip: Country: Work Tel. #: Work Fax #: Home Tel. #: Home Fax #: How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: Allison Eng. 022396-l Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail: Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you: Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"): *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. Hi fellow 'netters, My name is Allison Eng and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles. Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, Allison Eng ps. please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net who you think might be interested in it! It is a great deal! If you join and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for each new person you get to join after you join! If you exceed 25 referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for Christmas, Chanukah or any other occasion. Please be kind enough to mention my name when you join. I will then get a free magazine for a year for referring you. Thank you. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 04:55:22 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu From: turner_d@colloquium.co.uk (Derick Turner) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Date Field Problems Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 04:55:18 CST We keep getting smtp delivery errors on mail sent to Uk universities. The problem it reports is that the date field is missing. Are there any ways to configure mx mail such that the date field is passed in the correct place. Thanx Derick "inside every fat woman there is a thin woman trying to get out... Or at least Dying for a chocolate" -"Maskerade" Terry Pratchett ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Coloquium Internet :- More than just fun.... Its a job. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:23:41 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 15:22:43 +0100 From: Richard Levitte - GNU on VMS hacker Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099E7E6.BCC79D3F.66@e.kth.se> Subject: Re: Date Field Problems >From: turner_d@colloquium.co.uk (Derick Turner) >We keep getting smtp delivery errors on mail sent to Uk universities. The >problem it reports is that the date field is missing. Are there any ways to >configure mx mail such that the date field is passed in the correct place. I've seen this happen too, but honestly, it isn't really MX's fault. What I saw was that messages sent with Eudora (1.5.2 in this case) do not have a Date: field. When you send a mail with VMS MAIL (through the same server running MX), you do get a Date: field. It's usually up to the mail client (the MUA, to use a TLA) to add the Date: field. One thing you *could* do with MX is enhance it so it would add a Date: field if it can't see one. I'd regard that as a nice feature, rather than a requirement. Really, Eudora should be corrected to do the right thing. (Now, maybe there *is* such an option in MX, but in that case, I have apparently missed that piece of information, and I don't think I care much in any case) -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Richard Levitte, GNU on VMS hacker ! tel: +46-8-26 52 47 ! ! Spannvägen 38, I ! fax: none for the moment ! ! S-161 43 Bromma ! Internet: levitte@e.kth.se ! ! SWEDEN ! ! +-GNUish VMS-+ You may not add me to a commercial mailing list or send me commercial advertising without my consent! See http://www.e.kth.se/~levitte/anti.html for further reference. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:29:48 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:29:32 EST From: Scott McNeilly Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099E7B5.6636E1E0.83@fred.bridgew.edu> Subject: RE: Date Field Problems turner_d@colloquium.co.uk (Derick Turner) writes: >We keep getting smtp delivery errors on mail sent to Uk universities. The >problem it reports is that the date field is missing. Are there any ways to >configure mx mail such that the date field is passed in the correct place. Could you send us the text of the error messages? If MX were not passing the date field in the correct place, it would be helpful to see just what it is doing. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@bridgew.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:22:10 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:18:54 EST From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: dhernand@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0099E7C4.AD5A1A60.2@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Is this possible?? > I need 2 mailing lists in the VAX. This lists must be named > > list@people.mydomain > and > list@users.mydomain Create two lists, list1 and list2. Then, use rewrite rules to change the first to list1, and the second to list1. - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:46:55 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:42:54 EST From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: stana@road.ci.portland.or.us, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0099E7C8.0797E180.13@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Mail address question > I'm in an intranet domain called "trans.city". Another bureau is in the > domain "bis.city". Is it possible with MX v4.1 to to send mail to > "User@bis" from "trans.city" and have the message go to > "User@linux1.bis.city" instead of to "User@bis.trans.city"? Yes. Use a rewrite rule in the MX configuration. - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:59:04 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:56:17 CST6 From: "David A. Hernandez Alonso" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099E7D2.4803034D.979@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx> Subject: RE: Is this possible?? >From: MX%"MX-List@MadGoat.com" 26-FEB-1996 12:38:38.73 >Subj: RE: Is this possible?? > >> I need 2 mailing lists in the VAX. This lists must be named >> >> list@people.mydomain >> and >> list@users.mydomain > >Create two lists, list1 and list2. Then, use rewrite rules to change >the first to list1, and the second to list1. > > - Jonathan Thanks Jonathan, but I have another problem. I make two lists, then I use rewrite rules to rewrite the address: MCP> define rewrite_rule "" "<"list1"@realhost.mydomain>" MCP> define rewrite_rule "" "<"list2"@realhost.mydomain>" And I have no problems, the E-mail that I send to list@people.mydomain are sending to list1@realhost@mydomain, and list@users.mydomain are sending to list2@realhost.mydomain. But this work fine only in local mails, that is, mail that is sending from the realhost.mydomain to the lists. Also i have installed a POP server on my VAX, and the mail that are sending by the way of the POP server are work fine (to the lists). But if I send a mail from another hosts, the mail is returned to me with an error that tells me -------------------------------------------- Subject: LOCAL delivery error Note: this message was generated automatically. An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. --> Error description: Error-For: list@people.mydomain Error-Code: 3 Error-Text: No such local user Error-End: 1 error detected -------------------------------------------- This is true, the user "list" dont exist, whats happen with the rewrite rule?? Thanks in advance. Bye!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \ _ Universidad Autonoma de Nuevo Leon _ / \ _ Direccion de Sistemas e Informatica _ / -| _ Soporte Tecnico _ |- -| David Alejandro Hernandez Alonso | Telefono: [91-8] 329-4081 |- / E-mail: dhernand@uanl.mx | Ext: 5343 \ / | Fax: [91-8] 329-4083 :-) \ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 13:43:55 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 14:41:33 EST From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: dhernand@uanl.mx, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0099E7E0.FCB15120.15@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Is this possible?? > I make two lists, then I use rewrite rules to rewrite the address: > define rewrite_rule "" "<"list1"@realhost.mydomain>" > define rewrite_rule "" "<"list2"@realhost.mydomain>" I don't understand why there are are extra quotation marks (") in both rewrite rules. > Also i have installed a POP server on my VAX, and the mail that are > sending by the way of the POP server are work fine (to the lists). You don't send mail to, or by way of a POP server. POP only has to do with receiving mail, not sending it. A POP server client sends mail using SMTP, just like any other host. However, it is often the case that all such mail is sent only to a single host, which is expected to do the spooling. More to the point... > But if I send a mail from another hosts, the mail is returned to me with > an error that tells me So this has nothing to do with the POP clients at all, does it? > This is true, the user "list" dont exist, whats happen with the rewrite > rule? It is my understanding that rewrite rules apply to all mail that passes through the MX router, whether it originated locally or it arrives via the SMTP_SERVER. What version of MX are you using? One possibility is that the name portion of mail address might be case sensitive. That is, "List" and "list" might not be the same. One way around this problem would be to be clever in the list naming system: define rewrite_rule "<{list}@people.mydomain>" "<{list}1@realhost.mydomain>" define rewrite_rule "<{list}@users.mydomain>" "<{list}2@realhost.mydomain>" - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 16:40:06 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 16:39:08 CDT From: "James T. Horn" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099E7F1.6A1922D2.1802@SHSU.edu> Subject: Question about unsubscribing old addresses Does anyone have or know of a easy way to remove address from the lists. We would like a semi-automatic way to do it if possible. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:49:30 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 18:49:04 EST From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: horn@SHSU.edu, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0099E803.90FBD720.2@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Question about unsubscribing old addresses > Does anyone have or know of a easy way to remove address from the lists. > We would like a semi-automatic way to do it if possible. Having the list owner send "Remove" messages to the -request address is easy enough for me. In what way do you want the process automated? What would be the trigger to remove an address? - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 21:35:29 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: munroe@acornsw.com (Dick Munroe) Subject: MGFTP croaking after upgrade to 4.2 of MX... Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 22:04:22 -0500 Message-ID: Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I upgraded to 4.2 of MX which has a LOT of advantages, but now my MGFTP listener keeps croaking for no apparent reason. I upgraded netlib to the latest and greatest (The February, 95 release) with no change of symptoms. When was the last release of MGFTP? Could I have missed an update? Is there an old "known" problem here? The listener is: HULK::LOG$ROOT:[.CODE]$ ftp dmc.com dmc.com MultiNet FTP user process 3.2(106) Connection opened (Assuming 8-bit connections) Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <0099E7F1.6A1922D2.1802@SHSU.edu>, "James T. Horn" writes: =Does anyone have or know of a easy way to remove address from the lists. =We would like a semi-automatic way to do it if possible. RTFM! And then tell us why MLFAKE doesn't meet your needs. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:13:04 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:10:53 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099E873.93ADFC94.1@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MGFTP croaking after upgrade to 4.2 of MX... munroe@acornsw.com (Dick Munroe) writes: > >I upgraded to 4.2 of MX which has a LOT of advantages, but now my MGFTP >listener keeps croaking for no apparent reason. I upgraded netlib to the >latest and greatest (The February, 95 release) with no change of >symptoms. When was the last release of MGFTP? Could I have missed an >update? Is there an old "known" problem here? The listener is: > There is apparently some problem in NETLIB V2.0 that's causing this, but we've been unable to track down what that problem is. The problem apparently does not happen in NETLIB V1.7, which is what I guess you were running before. We're trying to find the time to find the problem.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:58:01 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:47:49 CDT From: "James T. Horn" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU. Message-ID: <0099E878.BC96039A.459@SHSU.edu> Subject: Automatic removing of invalid addresses Someone asked why I would want something to automatically remove users subscribed to list. Well here is why. With the list we have and the users subscribed to those list, in an eight hour period we had 250 messages from the postmaster accounts informing us that either address were no long valid, a person had exceeded their disk space usage, etc. If I could find something that would at least go through the messages and tell me what users subscribed to what list were having problems. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 09:42:47 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:41:06 EST From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: horn@SHSU.edu, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0099E888.8FCCF2A0.7@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Automatic removing of invalid addresses > why I would want something to automatically remove users subscribed to list? > With the list we have and the users subscribed to those list, in an > eight hour period we had 250 messages from the postmaster accounts > informing us that either address were no long valid, a person had > exceeded their disk space usage, etc. The key piece of information was how this 250 number factored between the number of messages sent to the list and the number of bad addresses. (If you sent out 25 messages, 10 bad addresses are not difficult to deal with.) As list owner, if you automatically removed from the list everyone who had mail delivery trouble, you would not have much of a list left. There are all sorts of transient problems that require no action on your part at all. They will eventually fix themselves. (I find that "userid invalid" tends to be permanent, but it also happens that the system administrator can make mistakes or be in the middle of software upgrades.) > If I could find something that would at least go through the messages > and tell me what users subscribed to what list were having problems. Try this: don't even think about it. Move all bounced messages to a folder named "listerr". Make a decision: (1) when the line clears up, I'm going to resend the bounced message, or (2) I don't care what happened, if the message didn't go through the first time, the recipient is SOL. If (2), delete (quickly) obviously duplicate bounces instead of moving them to "listerr". Then, every month or so, see if the same errors have lasted over a month. If so, *manually* remove the name from the mailing list. If not, use MAIL's SEARCH command to find the duplicate error messages in this folder, and delete them. In other words, you have to *think* about this, and not rely on an automated do-dad. - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:54:31 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 18:47:48 +0100 From: Richard Levitte - GNU on VMS hacker Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099E8CC.8DA2BEC9.18@e.kth.se> Subject: Re: Question about unsubscribing old addresses >From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) >In article <0099E7F1.6A1922D2.1802@SHSU.edu>, "James T. Horn" writes: >=Does anyone have or know of a easy way to remove address from the lists. >=We would like a semi-automatic way to do it if possible. > >RTFM! And then tell us why MLFAKE doesn't meet your needs. This assumes Mr. Horn is not the owner of the lists he's talking about, as well as he's not one of the system users on the node having those lists. Otherwise, I fail to understand why the usual REMOVE command to the LIST-request address wouldn't be sufficient. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Richard Levitte, GNU on VMS hacker ! tel: +46-8-26 52 47 ! ! Spannvägen 38, I ! fax: none for the moment ! ! S-161 43 Bromma ! Internet: levitte@e.kth.se ! ! SWEDEN ! ! +-GNUish VMS-+ You may not add me to a commercial mailing list or send me commercial advertising without my consent! See http://www.e.kth.se/~levitte/anti.html for further reference. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:55:22 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 18:52:34 +0100 From: Richard Levitte - GNU on VMS hacker Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099E8CD.38349019.22@e.kth.se> Subject: RE: MGFTP croaking after upgrade to 4.2 of MX... >From: Hunter Goatley >There is apparently some problem in NETLIB V2.0 that's causing this, >but we've been unable to track down what that problem is. The problem >apparently does not happen in NETLIB V1.7, which is what I guess you >were running before. I made a small try in having MGFTP use the 1.7 shareables (installed in a different directory), with the startup procedures slightly rewritten so as to put the needed NETLIB logicals in the job table of the process running the listener. Unfortunatelly, the listener just crashed. I'll do some further hacking in this direction later in the week and will post the results, unless I fail to find a solution. Enough of this for now, it's not really the correct list... >We're trying to find the time to find the problem.... Ah, so the problem at hand is not really the problem, eh? :-) -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Richard Levitte, GNU on VMS hacker ! tel: +46-8-26 52 47 ! ! Spannvägen 38, I ! fax: none for the moment ! ! S-161 43 Bromma ! Internet: levitte@e.kth.se ! ! SWEDEN ! ! +-GNUish VMS-+ You may not add me to a commercial mailing list or send me commercial advertising without my consent! See http://www.e.kth.se/~levitte/anti.html for further reference. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 12:05:23 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:04:29 +0100 From: Richard Levitte - GNU on VMS hacker Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <0099E8CE.E243DC15.28@e.kth.se> Subject: Re: Automatic removing of invalid addresses >From: "James T. Horn" ... >If I could find something that would at least go through the messages >and tell me what users subscribed to what list were having problems. Hmm, this would require saving the error messages, have a program go through them , looking for addresses with problems, then get a review of the lists on your system, search for the collected addresses in the reviews and report back. The first part would require some pattern matching or some slight AI, the rest is pretty routine, but might require some disk space if you choose to implement this by saving the reviews on disk and you have many or large lists. This could also be done more automagically by having the postmaster mail being received through the SITE agent, much like the autoresponder I posted not long ago. The question is if you really wish it all to work this way. I certainly would not. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Richard Levitte, GNU on VMS hacker ! tel: +46-8-26 52 47 ! ! Spannvägen 38, I ! fax: none for the moment ! ! S-161 43 Bromma ! Internet: levitte@e.kth.se ! ! SWEDEN ! ! +-GNUish VMS-+ You may not add me to a commercial mailing list or send me commercial advertising without my consent! See http://www.e.kth.se/~levitte/anti.html for further reference. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 14:12:10 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 14:10:44 CDT From: "James T. Horn" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <0099E8A5.D8C887B3.3589@SHSU.edu> I am trying to remove the following address with not much luck. Any ideas? /I=S/G=Jeff/S=Justus/OU=TXIVGP.PO3/@SMDALLAS.LANGATE.sprint.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:42:04 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 17:41:12 EST From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: horn@SHSU.edu, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <0099E8C3.40289AC0.3@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: Re: > I am trying to remove the following address with not much luck. Any ideas? > > /I=S/G=Jeff/S=Justus/OU=TXIVGP.PO3/@SMDALLAS.LANGATE.sprint.com It's not a matter of luck. Review your list, get the exact spelling of the address, and remove it. (Cut & Paste works well.) If you want us to diagnose an error, it helps to tell us exactly what you tried and exactly how it failed. - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:29:53 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <199602281625.LAA06203@redstone.interpath.net> From: "Rich Hill" To: mx-list@madgoat.com Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 11:22:29 -0500 Subject: Accounting Records Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU I need a way to capture accounting records for ALL message traffic through MX on one of our systems. Ideally I would like to have an accounting option for the ROUTER. Has anyone done this, or solved this problem in a different way? Basically I need a record of from-addr, to-addr, date/time, message-size for every message handled. Most of this traffic (99%) originates from either Decus UUCP or from a 'local' system via SMTP. The same is true with the delivery side of things. TIA Rich Hill -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rich Hill S I M Rich.Hill@sim.org Systems Engineer b y EasyLink: 62923838 SIM USA, Inc. P r a y e r Phone: 1-704-587-1462 Charlotte, NC since 1893 FAX: 1-704-587-1518 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [SC] Smiley captioned for the humor impaired. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:02:08 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU From: wing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: Date Field Problems Date: 28 Feb 1996 17:38:15 GMT Message-ID: <4h23u7$9ek@news.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <4677724@MVB.SAIC.COM>, turner_d@colloquium.co.uk (Derick Turner) writes: #We keep getting smtp delivery errors on mail sent to Uk universities. The #problem it reports is that the date field is missing. Are there any ways to #configure mx mail such that the date field is passed in the correct place. MX generates the "Date:" field correctly. However, if something else, such as a misconfigured POP3 client is generating the mail message, it might not be generating the "Date:" header. I've seen this happen if the POP client isn't told what timezone to use. The "Date:" header is required; some mailers (such as MX) don't care if it is missing. Others, like the one at the UK university you're having difficulties with, do care. -Dan Wing, wing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:11:29 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <199602281805.NAA14285@redstone.interpath.net> From: "Rich Hill" To: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:58:51 -0500 Subject: RE: Accounting Records Reply-To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: mx-list@madgoat.com On 28 Feb 96 at 12:26, Brian Tillman, x8425 wrote: > MX already can do that, but the LOCAL, SMTP, and SMTP_SERVER agents do it, not > the router. Turn on accounting for SMTP and SMTP_SERVER (see HELP SET) and > you'll have all inbound and outbound SMTP mail logged. Yes that is fine, however I also need it for UUCP, as most (90%) of our traffic is transported via UUCP. Rich -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rich Hill S I M Rich.Hill@sim.org Systems Engineer b y EasyLink: 62923838 SIM USA, Inc. P r a y e r Phone: 1-704-587-1462 Charlotte, NC since 1893 FAX: 1-704-587-1518 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [SC] Smiley captioned for the humor impaired. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 03:50:12 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 23:07:30 -0600 Message-ID: <9602290507.AA131538@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jonesd@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu From: reef@xenon.che.ilstu.edu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Dave Jone's HTTP server under Multinet 3.5 rev A CC: MX-List@MadGoat.com Seems that I can't get Dave Jone's HTTP server to work after upgrading Multinet to version 3.5 rev A. I get the following error. Any thoughts as to what is going on? The URL for this site is http://neon.che.ilstu.edu/ Best regards, Reef -ERROR-(404): file specification syntax error Requested method: GET Requested URL: / HTTP protocol: HTTP/1.0 -------- additional request headers -------- If-Modified-Since: Sunday, 18-Feb-96 12:59:03 GMT User-Agent: Mozilla/1.12(Macintosh; I; 68K) Accept: */* Accept: image/gif Accept: image/x-xbitmap Accept: image/jpeg ********************************************************************* * Reef (Philip D., II) Morse Phone (voice/voice mail):(309)438-5595 * * Illinois State University Phone (FAX at ISU): (309)438-5538 * * Normal, IL 61790-4160 USA Phone (ans.machine/FAX):(309)829-9257 * * Web pages: http://neon.che.ilstu.edu/ * * See also: http://www.ilstu.edu/~reef/, http://www.wwnet.com/~sss/ * * E-mail reef@xenon.che.ilstu.edu and sss@wwnet.com * ********************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 12:01:32 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <1.5.4b11.16.19960229174733.1c77113e@gateway.actfs.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu From: John Rourke Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: DNSMTP problems Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 12:01:12 CST Hi all, I am experiencing problems with DECNET SMTP. I have MX 4.1 running on a four node VAXcluster (VMS 6.1 DECnet OSI) I have a path set up to route all mail for domain abc.co.uk to a host outside the cluster using DECnet SMTP. This other node will then route the message to its final destination. This other node is an Alpha running VMS 6.2 & DECnet phase IV I am finding that *some* messages are bouncing with a message of %MX-F-NOHOST, no such host -(Via AXP000) Is this the cluster unable to deliver or the AXP? How can I invetigate further? John Rourke ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 18:00:36 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 16:19:25 EST From: "Henry A. Frystak - System Manager" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu CC: syshaf@tesla.njit.edu Message-ID: <0099EA4A.27C6CC62.57@tesla.njit.edu> Subject: Problems with MX v4.1 For the past few weeks I have been having several problems with the MX mailer and it was suggested I send them to this list for possible solutions. First, a little background about our site. We are using a VAXstation 4000-90A running VAX VMS v5.5-2, Multinet v3.4B, and MX v4.1. We have a total of 14GB of third-party SCSI disk drives, of which 6GB is user storage supporting over 2100 users which are a mixture of students/faculty/staff/researchers. We have been using MX, in previous versions, with both CMU-TCP and now Multinet, for many years without major problems until now. 1. During our Christmas 95 break, Multinet was upgraded from v3.3C to v3.4B. Other than a shutdown of MX, install of Multinet v3.4B on a quiet system, and the re-boot and restart of the system, including MX, nothing else was done. Does MX, specifically NETLIB support, need to be re-installed after the Multinet upgrade? 2. I have configured to run the MX FLQ manager process for purging finished entries, freeing the router for its other tasks (I do not use the MX_FLQ_AUTOPURGE_FIN TRUE except as noted here). I have had two instances where FINISHED entries accumulated and did not purge. Upon setting the MX_FLQ_DEBUG logical and resetting the FLQ and ROUTER tasks, I found: 26-FEB-1996 13:46:53.59 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Checking lock, resnam=FLQ_LOCK_TESLA_RQC 26-FEB-1996 13:46:53.61 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Someone else is doing the cleanups. Bye. 26-FEB-1996 13:46:53.70 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Checking lock, resnam=FLQ_LOCK_TESLA_RQC 26-FEB-1996 13:46:53.72 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Someone else is doing the cleanups. Bye. 26-FEB-1996 13:46:57.57 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Checking lock, resnam=FLQ_LOCK_TESLA_RQC 26-FEB-1996 13:46:57.61 %FLQ_CLEANUP: Someone else is doing the cleanups. Bye. Needless to say, no one else was doing cleanups and the FINISHED entries mounted up (in one case there were over 3700/5000 entries FINISHED). What caused this and is there any way I can manually clear this? Oh, I should add that the first time this happened, rebooting seemed to clear this up, but the second time (26-FEB-1996) it did not and I am still running with MX_FLQ_AUTOPURGE_FIN TRUE just to survive. 3. I have become aware of another problem. In doing various checking among the [MX.QUEUE...] directories, I found several instances of messages with two versions of the .HDR_INFO file. Upon checking further, I found that these messages were queued up for retrys to go offsite (out of this host, both on-campus and off). I became curious and did DIFFs on several of the files. Each has a new line (record?) inserted at the begining of the file, looking like: Dby tesla.njit.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) id 29; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:49:30 EST where the first character varies (capital C, D, etc.). I haven't really noticed this on all messages, just those that are requeued for retry later. The strange part about this is that if I remove or rename the newer copy of the .HDR_INFO file and then manually issue an MCP QUEUE READY ## command, the message almost always immediately gets sent. If I leave the message with the second copy of the .HDR_INFO file, the message usually must retry many times, and sometimes it is sent and sometimes not. Does anyone have any insight as to what causes this, and how to fix it or is it normal? 4. A system manager of a differnet cluster of machines has had a couple of instances of major MX queue file corruption (the MX_SYSTEM_QUEUE.FLQ_CTL file). He seems to attribute it to use of the MCP QUEUE SYNCHRONIZE command. I know that the docs say it can be used while the MX agents are active. Does anyone have any other experiences or know of any problems? Oh, and before anyone else suggests it, yes, I do know about MX v4.2. It's just that I would prefer to solve these problems first, before clouding the issues by adding another variable like a new version of the software. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. Henry Frystak New Jersey Institute of Technology System Administrator Academic Computing Department VAX/VMS USENET Newsmanager University Heights TESLA::SYSHAF Newark, New Jersey 07102 syshaf@tesla.njit.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 19:45:07 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 16:29:13 PST From: Paul Waterstraat -- UCD Geology Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@MADGOAT.COM CC: waterstraat@geology.ucdavis.edu Message-ID: <0099EA4B.86B41891.2@geology.ucdavis.edu> Subject: RE: Date Field Problems >We keep getting smtp delivery errors on mail sent to Uk universities. The >problem it reports is that the date field is missing. Are there any ways to >configure mx mail such that the date field is passed in the correct place. Such email will be bounced by many locations in Europe too. Eudora will put a Date: header on your outgoing email if you have set the location of your Macintosh with the Map control panel. If this email was originally sent from Eudora on the Macintosh, then here's the solution. If Eudora doesn't know what time zone the Mac is in, then it can't send out a correctly formatted date header. The way Eudora "knows" what time zone it is in, is by checking the "Map" control panel. If a location has not been set in the Map control panel, then the time zone is undefined. To fix the problem: o Open the Map control panel o Type in or select a nearby major city in your time zone o Click "Find" o Click "Set" You're done, close the control panel. To Eudora's credit, the first time it runs on a machine that has no location set in the Map control panel, Eudora displays a dialog box stating that the location has not been set and some sites may reject your email. Most users seem to disregard and forget this message.