Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 00:05:26 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 00:05:13 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@WKU.EDU Message-ID: <009A62C5.9384CD20.111@WKU.EDU> Subject: MX-LIST Administrivia: Monthly Post Posting statistics for list MX-LIST during July 1996 Total number of posts: 55 Total number of posters: 30 Total number of subscribers: 291 Last modified: 28-SEP-1995 13:33 (Updated digest info) Welcome to MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU, an electronic mailing list established for the discussion of the Message Exchange mail software. This is a routine posting you will see from time to time on MX-List. MX-List postings are also available in a daily digest format. To subscribe to the digest, send the following command in the body of a mail message to MXserver@LISTS.WKU.EDU: SUBSCRIBE MX-List-Digest "Your real name here" The MX-List archives are maintained at ARCHIVES@LISTS.WKU.EDU. To get a copy of any month's postings, send an e-mail message with the body SEND MX-List.yyyy-mm to ARCHIVES@LISTS.WKU.EDU, where "yyyy" is the year and "mm" is the numeric representation of the month. For example, the message SENDME MX-List.1992-04 will send the archives for April 1992. MX itself is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.spc.edu in [.MX.MX041]. You can also get it via e-mail by sending the commands SEND MX and SEND FILESERV_TOOLS on separate lines in the body of a mail message to FILESERV@LISTS.WKU.EDU. To remove yourself from the mailing list, send the following command to MXserver@LISTS.WKU.EDU: SIGNOFF MX-List MXserver supports a few other commands for your convenience. 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If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions about MX-List, please contact the list owner at the address below. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer goathunter@LOKI.COM The LOKI Group, Inc. P.O. Box 9609 Bowling Green, KY 42102-9609 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 05:54:18 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960801104525.652749aa@agate.actfs.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 11:45:25 +0100 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: John Rourke Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: address_rewriter.c At 19:37 31/07/96 +0200, you wrote: >> The .C version apparently has some bugs in it---others reported >> problems to me a few weeks ago. My advice: switch to the BLISS >> version. I can vouch for it because I use it---and it's written in >> BLISS and not C. ;-) >> I've got the BLISS compiler & created the libraries..... Now where do I get ADDRESS_REWRITER.B32 !!!!! It doesn't appear to be in either [.EXAMPLES] or [.CONTRIB] John Rourke ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 08:37:33 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 08:36:18 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009A630C.F923E0CF.5@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: address_rewriter.c John Rourke writes: > >I've got the BLISS compiler & created the libraries..... > >Now where do I get ADDRESS_REWRITER.B32 !!!!! > >It doesn't appear to be in either [.EXAMPLES] or [.CONTRIB] > It's in [.EXAMPLES] for MX V4.2. If you don't have V4.2, you should upgrade, because in V4.1, the address rewriter routines are only called for mail originating from VMS MAIL. In V4.2, the routines are called for all messages. I've also placed the files on ftp.wku.edu in [.MX.EXAMPLES]. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 13:46:44 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:42:23 From: Chance Eppinette - NLU Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <19960702134223eppinette@192.135.131.180> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Follow up on address-rewriter. CC: eppinette@alpha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been following the story on the address-rewriter because I had experienced the same problems. I finally got BLISS installed on an AXP without problem although the additional steps of building the starlet and lib librarys gave some errors. I kindof overlooked that for the meantime because I did see that the release notes mentioned something of errors that looked similar the the library builds. I am using MX 4.2 with Multinet on OVMS 6.1. Have had no problems with any other part of MX. On to the real question: When I tried to compile the rewriter as documented in the program header and from Hunter in one of the messages, I get the following: $ bliss ADDRESS_REWRITER.B32 LIBRARY '[MX.COMMON]FIELDS'; ........^ %BLS32-E-M_OPENIN, error opening [MX.COMMON]FIELDS as input -RMS-E-DNF, directory not found -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file at line number 82 in file DRA1:[MX.EXAMPLES]ADDRESS_REWRITER.B32;5 %BLS32-E-TEXT, Fatal error - compilation aborted I do not have a [.common] under the MX installation and can not find reference to it anywhere. Please help!! Thanks Chance Eppinette Systems and Networks Specialist Northeast Louisiana University (318)342-5015 eppinette@alpha.nlu.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 14:32:44 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 14:32:31 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: EPPINETTE@ALPHA.NLU.EDU Message-ID: <009A633E.BC36AF08.10@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Follow up on address-rewriter. Chance Eppinette - NLU writes: > >I have been following the story on the address-rewriter because I had >experienced the same problems. I finally got BLISS installed on an AXP >without problem although the additional steps of building the starlet and >lib librarys gave some errors. I kindof overlooked that for the meantime >because I did see that the release notes mentioned something of errors >that looked similar the the library builds. You can ignore the informationals you get when compiling the STARLET and LIB libraries.... >On to the real question: >When I tried to compile the rewriter as documented in the program header >and from Hunter in one of the messages, I get the following: > >$ bliss ADDRESS_REWRITER.B32 > >LIBRARY '[MX.COMMON]FIELDS'; >........^ >%BLS32-E-M_OPENIN, error opening [MX.COMMON]FIELDS as input >-RMS-E-DNF, directory not found >-SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file >at line number 82 in file DRA1:[MX.EXAMPLES]ADDRESS_REWRITER.B32;5 > >%BLS32-E-TEXT, Fatal error - compilation aborted > > >I do not have a [.common] under the MX installation and can not find >reference to it anywhere. > Ooops. Sorry about that! The [.COMMON] directory is part of the MX sources. I've placed FIELDS.R32 on ftp.wku.edu in [.MX.EXAMPLES]; just get it, remove (or replace) the directory spec above, do BLISS/LIBRARY FIELDS, and then recompile ADDRESS_REWRITER. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 18:59:25 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 01:59:06 +0200 From: "Rok Vidmar, NUK Ljubljana" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009A639E.A6C8A5BC.1@nuk.uni-lj.si> Subject: RE: Follow up on address-rewriter. > Ooops. Sorry about that! The [.COMMON] directory is part of the > MX sources. I've placed FIELDS.R32 on ftp.wku.edu in [.MX.EXAMPLES]; > just get it, remove (or replace) the directory spec above, do > BLISS/LIBRARY FIELDS, and then recompile ADDRESS_REWRITER. More "Ooops" waiting for the innocent... the line LIBRARY '[MX.COMMON]FIELDS'; is followed by: LIBRARY '[MX.COMMON]MX'; Plus line: ! The file used is MX_ALIAS_ADDRESSES in MX_DIR:. A sample file is telling another truth than the two code lines: fab : $FAB (FNM = 'MX_WKU_ADDRESSES', DNM = 'MX_DIR:.TXT', That fixed, my ROUTER regularily crashes upon MCP RES ROUTER (but not on cold start) with status = 1000000C: %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=00000000, PC=001DE778, PS=0000001B %TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows Image Name Module Name Routine Name Line Number rel PC abs PC ADDRESS_REWR 0 00010778 001DE778 ADDRESS_REWR 0 00010618 001DE618 MX_ROUTER REWRITE REWRITE_INIT 125 00000094 00038524 MX_ROUTER PROCESS INIT 159 00000280 00033B70 MX_ROUTER MX_ROUTER MX_ROUTER 44 000012B4 000312B4 0 84325A50 84325A50 and I get %PROCESS, ... Header rewrite of failed 001582FC in my MX_ROUTER_LOG.LOG even if the line from MX_DIR:MX_ALIAS_ADDRESSES.TXT looks like: rok@fmf.uni-lj.si rok.vidmar@fmf.uni-lj.si Regards, Rok Vidmar Internet: rok.vidmar@uni-lj.si National and University Library Phone: +386 61 125 4218 Turjaska 1, 1000 Ljubljana Fax: +386 61 125 5007 Slovenia ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 20:21:07 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 20:17:03 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@MADGOAT.COM Message-ID: <009A636E.DDDE3984.28@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Follow up on address-rewriter. "Rok Vidmar, NUK Ljubljana" writes: > > More "Ooops" waiting for the innocent... the line > Ooops again, indeed. I've fixed the logical name and LIBRARY lines and included the MX.R32 file too. Sorry about that. FTP.WKU.EDU now has ADDRESS_REWRITER.ZIP in [.MX.EXAMPLES]. It also includes binaries linked under VMS V6.1 (VAX and Alpha). > That fixed, my ROUTER regularily crashes upon MCP RES ROUTER (but not on cold >start) with status = 1000000C: > This I couldn't duplicate. Anyone else see that? >and I get > >%PROCESS, ... Header rewrite of failed 001582FC > >in my MX_ROUTER_LOG.LOG even if the line from MX_DIR:MX_ALIAS_ADDRESSES.TXT >looks like: > >rok@fmf.uni-lj.si rok.vidmar@fmf.uni-lj.si > That error is: %LIB-F-KEYNOTFOU, key not found in tree so it appears that your ADDRESS_REWRITER isn't reading the file, for some reason. You can do BLISS/VARIANT=1 ADDRESS_REWRITER to get a version you can RUN for testing. That will show you the trees that get created when the file is run. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 06:24:26 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960802082911.5c3f5d38@agate.actfs.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 09:29:11 +0100 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: John Rourke Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: address_rewriter.c At 08:36 01/08/96 CST, you wrote: >John Rourke writes: >> >>I've got the BLISS compiler & created the libraries..... >> >>Now where do I get ADDRESS_REWRITER.B32 !!!!! >> >>It doesn't appear to be in either [.EXAMPLES] or [.CONTRIB] >> >It's in [.EXAMPLES] for MX V4.2. If you don't have V4.2, you should >upgrade, because in V4.1, the address rewriter routines are only >called for mail originating from VMS MAIL. In V4.2, the routines are >called for all messages. > >I've also placed the files on ftp.wku.edu in [.MX.EXAMPLES]. I seem to remember there was some discussion on the list about a problem with 4.2 and SMTP over DECnet. Has this been resolved? What is/was the problem? John Rourke ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 13:32:31 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Message-ID: <01BB8076.FC58E0C0@daha01.dsi.uanl.mx> From: "David A. Hernandez Alonso" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: "'MX-List@MadGoat.com'" Subject: "SMT[13]: Error: status=20DC" What does mean?? Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 13:28:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I have a Micro-Vax 3100-80, OpenVMS Vax v6.2 and MX v4.2 and I have the problem that cause my MAC users can=B4t send=20 mail trough my SMTP server. They use Eudora. They can read, but can=B4t send big mails, just mails of 3 or 4 lines. I enable the logical MX_SMTP_SERVER_DEBUG and when I try to send mail with an attachment (from a MAC and Eudora) I receive the next error: STM[13]: Send "220 ccr.dsi.uanl.mx MX V4.2 VAX SMTP server ready at Fri, = 02 Aug=20 1996 12:31:51 CST6" STM[13]: Receive "HELO [148.234.15.208]" STM[13]: Send "250 Hello, [148.234.15.208]" STM[13]: Receive "RSET" STM[13]: Send "250 Okay." STM[13]: Receive "MAIL FROM:" STM[13]: Send "250 MAIL command accepted." STM[13]: Receive "RCPT TO:" STM[13]: Send "250 Recipient okay (at least in form)" STM[13]: Receive "DATA" STM[13]: Send "354 Start mail input; end with ." STM[13]: Receive "X-Sender: dhernand@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx (Unverified)" STM[13]: Receive "Message-Id: " STM[13]: Receive "Mime-Version: 1.0" STM[13]: Receive "Content-Type: multipart/mixed; = boundary=3D"=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1373115 140=3D=3D_=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D"" STM[13]: Receive "Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:35:56 -0500" STM[13]: Receive "To: dhernand@uanl.mx" STM[13]: Receive "From: dhernand@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx (David A. Hernandez = Alonso)" STM[13]: Receive "Subject: pppppppprrrrrrueba (es un attach)" STM[13]: Receive "" STM[13]: Receive = "--=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1373115140=3D=3D_=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D" STM[13]: Receive "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"" STM[13]: Receive "" STM[13]: Receive = "--=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1373115140=3D=3D_=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D" STM[13]: Receive "Content-Type: application/mac-binhex40; = name=3D"Eudora_Light"" STM[13]: Receive "Content-Disposition: attachment; = filename=3D"Eudora_Light"" STM[13]: Receive "" STM[13]: Receive "(This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)" STM[13]: Receive "" STM[13]: Error: status=3D20DC What can I do to resolve this? Thanks in advance. _____________________________________________________________ U. A. N. L. Direccion de Informatica. Soporte Tecnico. David A. Hernandez Alonso E- mail: dhernand@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx Tel.- [918]- 32940-39 Fax.- [918]- 32940-83 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 15:15:17 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 16:13:37 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 From: Scott McNeilly Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009A6416.06A86B80.11@fred.bridgew.edu> Subject: RE: "SMT[13]: Error: status=20DC" What does mean?? >From: "David A. Hernandez Alonso" >Subject: "SMT[13]: Error: status=20DC" What does mean?? $ write sys$output f$message(%x20dc) %SYSTEM-F-CONNECFAIL, connect to network object timed-out or failed -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@bridgew.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services FAX: 508-697-1774 Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 10:49:19 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960805151848.6fe72f60@agate.actfs.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 16:18:48 +0100 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: John Rourke Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: Follow up on address-rewriter. >> That fixed, my ROUTER regularily crashes upon MCP RES ROUTER (but not on cold >>start) with status = 1000000C: >> >This I couldn't duplicate. Anyone else see that? > Having upgraded to MX4.2, compiled & linked address_rewriter.b32 I can now duplicate this error. I tried resetting the router three times. It crashed after the third with the status of 1000000C. John Rourke ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 14:23:38 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 12:23:00 PST From: Paul Waterstraat -- UCD Geology Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU CC: waterstraat@geology.ucdavis.edu Message-ID: <009A6651.4E302B0E.11@geology.ucdavis.edu> Subject: SMTP server exiting, status=10248074 Greetings, after years of faithful MX operation I'm now having a problem Starting about 2 weeks ago my MX SMTP server process has started dying with the following console message: %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 5-AUG-1996 11:09:50.54 %%%%%%%%%%% (from node JADE at 5-AUG-1996 11:09:50.52) Message from user SYSTEM on JADE MX SMTP Server (pid 204007BC) exiting, status = 10248074 I can start it up again, but it dies within an hour or two. I'm running MX V4.2 with NETLIB 2.0, Multinet, OpenVMS VAX. I was running OpenVMS 6.1 and Multinet 3.3(D?) This past weekend I upgraded to OpenVMS 6.2, Multinet 3.5A, and NETLIB 2.0J, but the problem persists. I turned on MX_SMTP_SERVER_DEBUG but found no clues in the log files. ----- The following may or may not be related ------------- Today I got several of the following message: %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 5-AUG-1996 08:34:50.21 %%%%%%%%%%% (from node JADE at 5-AUG-1996 08:34:50.20) Message from user SYSTEM on JADE MultiNet Server: agent_error_routine: Code = 1 Also, today I was notified by the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department here on campus that they are and have been suffering a major hacker breakin, with hackers launching attacks against other sites from their platforms. Could the behavior I'm seeing be related to someone maliciously trying to jam the SMTP server process? -- Paul "Mad Dog" Waterstraat Internet: waterstraat@geology.ucdavis.edu Department of Geology http://www-geology.ucdavis.edu/~waterstraat University of California Voice: (916) 752-7421 Davis, CA 95616-8605 USA FAX: (916) 752-0951 If encryption is outlawed, then bzyl bhgynjf jvyy hfr rapelcgvba. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 15:04:23 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 15:03:06 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: WATERSTRAAT@GEOLOGY.UCDAVIS.EDU Message-ID: <009A6667.ABA7A896.5@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: SMTP server exiting, status=10248074 Paul Waterstraat -- UCD Geology writes: > >Greetings, after years of faithful MX operation I'm now having a problem > >Starting about 2 weeks ago my MX SMTP server process has started dying with >the following console message: > > %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 5-AUG-1996 11:09:50.54 %%%%%%%%%%% (from node JADE at 5-AUG-1996 11:09:50.52) > Message from user SYSTEM on JADE > MX SMTP Server (pid 204007BC) exiting, status = 10248074 > That's: $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT f$message(%x10248074) %STR-F-STRTOOLON, string is too long (greater than 65535) $ Some mailers now send out messages with To: or CC: lines longer than 64K and the MX SMTP Server doesn't handle that case yet. There's nothing you can do on your end, except wait for that message to time out on the other end. >Also, today I was notified by the Electrical and Computer Engineering >Department here on campus that they are and have been suffering a major >hacker breakin, with hackers launching attacks against other sites from >their platforms. Could the behavior I'm seeing be related to someone >maliciously trying to jam the SMTP server process? > That's possible.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 18:59:51 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 16:58:56 PST From: Paul Waterstraat -- UCD Geology Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: waterstraat@geology.ucdavis.edu Message-ID: <009A6677.DA2B4997.14@geology.ucdavis.edu> Subject: RE: SMTP server exiting, status=10248074 > That's: > > $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT f$message(%x10248074) > %STR-F-STRTOOLON, string is too long (greater than 65535) > $ > > Some mailers now send out messages with To: or CC: lines longer than > 64K and the MX SMTP Server doesn't handle that case yet. There's > nothing you can do on your end, except wait for that message to time > out on the other end. I was just discussing this with my department chair and he said that he has received, upon occasion, email messages where the sender apparently, inadvertently, pasted the text of the message (in one case an entire manuscript) into the CC: line instead of the body of the message! He said that made it exceedingly difficult to read! -- Paul "Mad Dog" Waterstraat Internet: waterstraat@geology.ucdavis.edu Department of Geology http://www-geology.ucdavis.edu/~waterstraat University of California Voice: (916) 752-7421 Davis, CA 95616-8605 USA FAX: (916) 752-0951 If encryption is outlawed, then bayl bhgynjf jvyy hfr rapelcgvba. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 09:53:27 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 10:53:08 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: Lejf@axp.psl.ku.dk, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <009A67D7.15A05660.4@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Truncated records. > One of my mail users complains that lines in the body of > messages, he receives from a mailing list (DAYVSN) are truncated > at 256 characters. I suppose, this is originating in the sending > mailer, which is apparently not providing LF characters. I also > suppose, I cannot do anything about it here at my server, which > is runnning OpenVMS 6.1 and MX 4.1. However, I would be glad to > hear from anyone, who has any suggestions. This is a function of the VMS Mail command, not MX. In other words, you can't do anything about it (with the possible exception of using some other editor within MAIL). - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 10:49:19 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 15:24:23 +0000 From: Ian.Miller@softel.co.uk Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <009A68C6.2434F05B.1@dylan.softel.co.uk> Subject: address_rewriter.c and sender,return-path headers I am using an address_rewriter.c based on the example one. This works fine except that it does not rewrite the sender and return-path headers. The rewrite routine does not appear to get called for these headers. 1. can someone with the MX V4.2 sources have a look to see if rewrite_header is supposed to get called for these particular headers. 2. does ADDRESS_REWRITER.B32 rewrite these headers ? ************************************************************************* Ian Miller "The time has come",the walrus said Teletext Dept.,Softel "to speak of many things". Tel: +44 118 9842151 from "Through the looking glass" Ian.Miller@softel.co.uk by Lewis Carrol. PSImail: 243273400398::IAN ************************************************************************* ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 12:00:02 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 12:59:48 EST From: Jim Bender Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009A697B.1C0C43C4.102@bdsnet.com> Subject: RE: Truncated records. >> One of my mail users complains that lines in the body of >> messages, he receives from a mailing list (DAYVSN) are truncated >> at 256 characters. I suppose, this is originating in the sending >> mailer, which is apparently not providing LF characters. I also >> suppose, I cannot do anything about it here at my server, which >> is runnning OpenVMS 6.1 and MX 4.1. However, I would be glad to >> hear from anyone, who has any suggestions. > >This is a function of the VMS Mail command, not MX. In other words, >you can't do anything about it (with the possible exception of using some >other editor within MAIL). > > - Jonathan What would be the possibilities of having some kind of system manager settable logical to control forced line breaks to make VMS mail happy? something along the lines of: MX_BREAK_LONG_LINES_AT and define it for the maximum acceptable line length? Or perhaps a MCP settable option? The 255 char truncation happens all to often nowadays and we really need some way to keep the whole message. Just my $.02 Regards, Jim Bender jbender@bdsnet.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 11:26:55 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 11:26:26 CST From: sysmail@mnsmc1.smumn.edu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@madgoat.com Message-ID: <009A6BC9.905921C0.122@mnsmc1.smumn.edu> Subject: Logjam in mx queue: Why does it happen, and how do I fix it? Hi, And TIA. I've got a DEC MicroVax II, model 3100/80, running VMS 5.5 and Multinet 3.5 B (with all the appropriate ECO updates applied). For campus e-mail and mail forwarding, I've installed MX 4.2. I've had some problems w/ the queue getting backed up on some entries, then stalling completely. Installation went as follows: Components: base mx software,netlib network support,smtp interface support, mailing list/file server support,listserv interface support,documentation, example files and programs, user-contributed files and programs. We are not currently making use of the listserv/file server capabilities, nor are we using any of the user-contributed files/programs. Maximum number of queue entries = 5000 MX FLQ manager is run as a seperate process. number of ROUTER agent processes to run = 1 ( default ) number of LOCAL agent processes to run = 1 ( default ) number of SMTP agent processes to run = 1 ( default ) TCP/IP support thru TGV/Multinet Everything else was the installation defaults. MX installation was followed by the install of NETLIB 2.0 I'm pretty sure it was the "J" version, as there was a lot of talk on the list about why that was the one everybody needed, and where and how to get it. The backup and save sets for NETLIB were dated FEB. 12, 1996. Is this the "J" version, how do I tell? All outgoing campus mail gets run thru the our MicroVax II (250 faculty/staff, and 1500 students) . The mail is mostly generated thru Pegasus mail on 2 Novell systems. The VAX also accepts mail addressed to name@smumn.edu and name@mnsmc1.smumn.edu. I have about 300 mail forwards set up so that faculty/staff can give out the generic address name@smumn.edu (for convenience). I then forward it to whatever machine their account resides on. We don't have undergrad courses during the summer, so traffic is pretty light at the moment. On average, I find less than 75 messages in the queue. With auto-purging after 15 minutes, this implies to me that we're averaging 5 messages/minute. Most of the time, all the messages in the queue are succesfully delivered and are marked "FINISHED", with 1 or 2 marked "INPROG". Now the problem: A while back, one of our staff made a request for information and was sent 2 huge messages, one was 6 meg, the other 3 meg. MX couldn't/wouldn't deliver them and marked them to be retried. Mail backed up up behind them until I had 1000 messages waiting to be delivered. The strange thing was that the "stuck" entries would be marked as "IN-PROGRESS", with a retry time of 1-AUG-1996 10:03:48.12 . System time would show as 1-AUG-1996 10:30:00.15 . Somehow, the retry time was passing w/o the messages being retried. I couldn't find a way to modify the retry time of a queue entry. Is there a way to do this? Anyway, as a quick and dirty "fix", I cancelled the entries whose retry timestamp had expired, purged the queue, then ran mcp shutdown, ran stop/id on mx smtp, then ran mx_startup. This let mx deliver the backed up messages. I assumed (big mistake) mx was choking on multi-megabyte files. The system ran fine until late last week when the same thing happened, with one difference. This time the files were both under 5000 bytes. I had less than 50 entries in the queue when this happened, all of them were under 30,000 bytes. The MicroVax isn't used much and the CPU shouldn't be under any kind of load. Most of our heavier administrative processing is on a DEC PDP-11/84 or is being moved onto our DEC Alpha. Did I do something wrong? What causes this backlog? How do I fix it? I'm on DIGEST mode, so reply directly to me for fastest respone if you need more information. Other than this one problem, I really like MX. It works really good (mostly), and it's cheap (which we like even better). Kevin M. Kotlarz Systems Programmer St. Marys U. of Minnesota kkotlarz@rex.smumn.edu (507)-457-1732 ============================================================================== Kevin M. Kotlarz St. Mary's University of Minnesota 700 Terrace Heights Systems Programmer Computer Center #17 kkotlarz@smumn.edu Winona, MN 55987 kkotlarz@marys.smumn.edu (NeXTmail) (507) 457-1732 kkotlarz@mnsmc1.smumn.edu kkotlarz@rex.smumn.edu kkotlarz@ada.smumn.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 04:35:11 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU From: dwing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: Logjam in mx queue: Why does it happen, and how do I fix it? Date: 13 Aug 1996 05:38:47 GMT Message-ID: <4up4d7$978@cronkite.cisco.com> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <009A6BC9.905921C0.122@mnsmc1.smumn.edu>, sysmail@mnsmc1.smumn.edu writes: [...] > Maximum number of queue entries = 5000 > > MX FLQ manager is run as a seperate process. > > number of ROUTER agent processes to run = 1 ( default ) > > number of LOCAL agent processes to run = 1 ( default ) > > number of SMTP agent processes to run = 1 ( default ) Run at _least_ 2-3 SMTP agents, especially if you're gatewaying mail! These are not multithreaded, and you'll need one for each concurrent outgoing mail message you want to be able to send. One isn't nearly enough. > TCP/IP support thru TGV/Multinet > > Everything else was the installation defaults. > > MX installation was followed by the install of NETLIB 2.0 > > I'm pretty sure it was the "J" version, as there was a lot of talk on the > list about why that was the one everybody needed, and where and how to get it. > The backup and save sets for NETLIB were dated FEB. 12, 1996. Is this the "J" > version, how do I tell? Do "$ ANALYZE/IMAGE/INTERACTIVE NETLIB_SHR" and press Return three or four times. Look for "image file identification". > All outgoing campus mail gets run thru the our > MicroVax II (250 faculty/staff, and 1500 students) . > The mail is mostly generated thru Pegasus mail on 2 Novell systems. The VAX > also accepts mail addressed to name@smumn.edu and name@mnsmc1.smumn.edu. I > have about 300 mail forwards set up so that faculty/staff can give out the > generic address name@smumn.edu (for convenience). I then forward it to > whatever machine their account resides on. We don't have undergrad courses > during the summer, so traffic is pretty light at the moment. On average, > I find less than 75 messages in the queue. With auto-purging after 15 minutes, > this implies to me that we're averaging 5 messages/minute. Most of the time, > all the messages in the queue are succesfully delivered and are marked > "FINISHED", with 1 or 2 marked "INPROG". > > Now the problem: A while back, one of our staff made a request for > information and was sent 2 huge messages, one was 6 meg, the other 3 meg. > MX couldn't/wouldn't deliver them and marked them to be retried. Mail > backed up up behind them until I had 1000 messages waiting to be delivered. > The strange thing was that the "stuck" entries would be marked as "IN-PROGRESS", > with a retry time of 1-AUG-1996 10:03:48.12 . System time would show as > 1-AUG-1996 10:30:00.15 . Somehow, the retry time was passing w/o the > messages being retried. Which means it was (and still is) a message to be retried at 10:03, but when 10:03 happened, the system was busy deliverying another message. You need more outgoing SMTP agents. >I couldn't find a way to modify the retry time of a > queue entry. Is there a way to do this? I don't believe so -- I think it is set when the entry is created. But to change it to new entries, you use SET SMTP/RETRY_INTERVAL [...] -Dan Wing dwing@tgv.com / dwing@cisco.com cisco Systems, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 14:20:05 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 12:16:48 PST From: syscorn@CCVAX.CCS.CSUS.EDU Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@lists.wku.edu Message-ID: <009A6C99.C3DA49E0.62@CCVAX.CCS.CSUS.EDU> index ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 21:08:23 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:11:34 EDT From: Daiajo Tibdixious MACS <"svs::svist070"@svs6pub.svh.unsw.EDU.AU> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <009A6D62.335879E0.20@svs6pub.svh.unsw.EDU.AU> Subject: MX list no privilege for owners MX V4.2 VAX I've got a list here: Mailing lists: Name: EMAILNEWS Owner: "TRANGIHUNA@STVINCENTS.COM.AU" "RSCHILT@STVINCENTS.COM.AU" "KWICKETT@STVINCENTS.COM.AU" "SVIST070@SVS6PUB.SVH.UNSW.EDU.AU" Reply-to: NOList, Sender Archive: MX_DEVICE:[MX.MLF_ARCHIVE] Description: all email users Errors-to: RSCHILT@STVINCENTS.COM.AU Strip header: NOReceived, NOOther Private list: No Case sensitive: Yes Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:W,WORLD) Which resonds with "no privilege" (see below) when one of the owners tries ADD or REVIEW (or anything else for that matter). We have other lists, some with the same problem, some which work fine. I have verified that my "SVIST070@SVS6PUB.SVH.UNSW.EDU.AU" works on another list, and have also verified "RSCHILT@STVINCENTS.COM.AU" on the same other list. Can anyone suggest what I should try next? Upgrade? >Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 11:15:37 EDT >From: Mailing list & file server >To: >Subject: Mailing list or file server error > >Note: this message was generated automatically. > >The following error(s) occurred during local delivery of your message. > >Error in delivery to mailing list EMAILNEWS: > REVIEW failed: insufficient privilege > >------------------------------ Rejected message ------------------------------ >Received: from svp625 (generic105125.svh.unsw.EDU.AU) by svs6.svh.unsw.EDU.AU (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 11:15:32 EDT >Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960813111215.21178a48@popserver.svh.unsw.edu.au> >X-Sender: sviss212@popserver.svh.unsw.edu.au >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >To: emailnews-request@svh.unsw.edu.au >From: RONNY SCHILT >Subject: > >review ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 21:31:17 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 21:30:58 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: "svs::svist070"@SVS6PUB.SVH.UNSW.EDU.AU Message-ID: <009A6CE7.2E4874CB.4@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MX list no privilege for owners Daiajo Tibdixious MACS <"svs::svist070"@svs6pub.svh.unsw.EDU.AU> writes: > >MX V4.2 VAX > >I've got a list here: > >Mailing lists: > Name: EMAILNEWS > Owner: "TRANGIHUNA@STVINCENTS.COM.AU" > "RSCHILT@STVINCENTS.COM.AU" It's the case of the addresses that's causing the problem. Note the case of the "username" portion of this address: >>To: emailnews-request@svh.unsw.edu.au >>From: RONNY SCHILT Case matters when making owner checks, so you need to change the case in the list definition in MCP. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 21:57:38 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 13:01:07 EDT From: Daiajo Tibdixious MACS <"svs::svist070"@svs6pub.svh.unsw.EDU.AU> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009A6D69.1EF1D580.16@svs6pub.svh.unsw.EDU.AU> Subject: RE: MX list no privilege for owners Tue, 13 Aug 1996 21:30:58 Hunter Goatley >Daiajo Tibdixious MACS <"svs::svist070"@svs6pub.svh.unsw.EDU.AU> writes: >>MX V4.2 VAX >> Owner: "TRANGIHUNA@STVINCENTS.COM.AU" >> "RSCHILT@STVINCENTS.COM.AU" >It's the case of the addresses that's causing the problem. Note the >case of the "username" portion of this address: >>>From: RONNY SCHILT >Case matters when making owner checks, so you need to change the case >in the list definition in MCP. I also noticed Case Sensitive: Yes, and I took that off to no effect (which was expected). I then carefully modifed the owners to be all lower case, it allowed the lower case username, but uppercased the domain name. Anyway that worked. However, this leads to another question. I had/have a working list: Name: CAMPUSNEWS Owner: "RSCHILT@STVINCENTS.COM.AU" "KWICKETT@STVINCENTS.COM.AU" "SVIST070@SVS6PUB.SVH.UNSW.EDU.AU" Reply-to: NOList, Sender Archive: MX_DEVICE:[MX.MLF_ARCHIVE] Description: Campus wide broadcast Errors-to: RSCHILT@STVINCENTS.COM.AU Strip header: NOReceived, NOOther Private list: No Case sensitive: No Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:W,WORLD) How come this one is working, even with the uppercase owners? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:47:52 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:46:45 CST From: sysmail@mnsmc1.smumn.edu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@madgoat.com Message-ID: <009A6D80.429F0400.38@mnsmc1.smumn.edu> Subject: 2 domain names, how do I force 1 to be on the FROM line Hi, I've got mx 4.2, Netlib 2.0 J running on our alpha ( mnsmc2 ), using multinet 3.5 b tcp/ip. About a year ago, our domain name changed from mnsmc.edu to smumn.edu . The alpha currently accepts mail addressed to both name@mnsmc2.mnsmc.edu and name@mnsmc2.smumn.edu . Outgoing mail has name@mnsmc2.mnsmc.edu in the FROM field. How do I force the FROM field to read name@mnsmc2.smumn.edu? Our vax (mnsmc1), also running mx 4.2, accepts mail as name@smumn.edu, name@mnsmc1.mnmsc.edu, and name@mnsmc1.smumn.edu. All outgoing mail from the vax has name@mnsmc1.smumn.edu in the FROM field. I don't want the alpha (mnsmc2) to accept mail addressed to name@smumn.edu, I just want outgoing mnsmc2 mail to have our new domain name in the FROM field. Thanks, Kevin M. Kotlarz Ssytems Programmer St. Marys U. of Minnesota kkotlarz@rex.smumn.edu kkotlarz@rex.mnsmc.edu ============================================================================== Kevin M. Kotlarz St. Mary's University of Minnesota 700 Terrace Heights Systems Programmer Computer Center #17 kkotlarz@smumn.edu Winona, MN 55987 kkotlarz@marys.smumn.edu (NeXTmail) (507) 457-1732 kkotlarz@mnsmc1.smumn.edu kkotlarz@rex.smumn.edu kkotlarz@ada.smumn.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:06:58 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 17:05:29 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: sysmail@mnsmc1.smumn.edu, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <009A6D8B.4296C5A0.34@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: 2 domain names, how do I force 1 to be on the FROM line > I've got mx 4.2, Netlib 2.0 J running on our alpha ( mnsmc2 ), using > multinet 3.5 b tcp/ip. > > How do I force the FROM field to read name@mnsmc2.smumn.edu? Did you edit MX_DEVICE:[MX]MX_LOGICALS.DAT? You may also have to edit the Multinet logicals, but since I don't use Multinet, I can't help you there. - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 17:04:35 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU From: dwing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: RE: MX list no privilege for owners Date: 14 Aug 1996 17:10:38 GMT Message-ID: <4ut1ae$pqc@cronkite.cisco.com> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <009A6D69.1EF1D580.16@svs6pub.svh.unsw.EDU.AU>, Daiajo Tibdixious MACS <"svs::svist070"@svs6pub.svh.unsw.EDU.AU> writes: [...] > However, this leads to another question. I had/have a working list: > > Name: CAMPUSNEWS > Owner: "RSCHILT@STVINCENTS.COM.AU" > "KWICKETT@STVINCENTS.COM.AU" > "SVIST070@SVS6PUB.SVH.UNSW.EDU.AU" > Reply-to: NOList, Sender > Archive: MX_DEVICE:[MX.MLF_ARCHIVE] > Description: Campus wide broadcast > Errors-to: RSCHILT@STVINCENTS.COM.AU > Strip header: NOReceived, NOOther > Private list: No > Case sensitive: No > Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:W,WORLD) > > How come this one is working, even with the uppercase owners? Maybe through (lowercased) System users? -Dan Wing dwing@tgv.com / dwing@cisco.com cisco Systems, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 18:18:08 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 09:22:23 EDT From: Daiajo Tibdixious MACS <"svs::svist070"@svs6pub.svh.unsw.EDU.AU> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009A6E13.BB1CC5A0.4@svs6pub.svh.unsw.EDU.AU> Subject: RE: MX list no privilege for owners 14 Aug 1996 17:10:38 dwing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Daiajo Tibdixious MACS <"svs::svist070"@svs6pub.svh.unsw.EDU.AU> writes: >> Owner: "RSCHILT@STVINCENTS.COM.AU" >> How come this one is working, even with the uppercase owners? [I have 2 lists, both having "rschilt@stvincents.com.au" trying to do a REVIEW, 1 list rejects "insufficient privilege", the other works. Had to lowercase not- working list, but not the working list.] >Maybe through (lowercased) System users? Its the same user on both lists. I got him to check again and it definately works, even though his address is in lowercase. Really weird I thought, not actually causing me a problem. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 07:02:05 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU From: dwing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: RE: 2 domain names, how do I force 1 to be on the FROM line Date: 15 Aug 1996 06:59:48 GMT Message-ID: <4uuht4$d9k@cronkite.cisco.com> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <009A6D8B.4296C5A0.34@garnet.nist.gov>, "Jonathan E. Hardis" writes: > > I've got mx 4.2, Netlib 2.0 J running on our alpha ( mnsmc2 ), using > > multinet 3.5 b tcp/ip. > > > > How do I force the FROM field to read name@mnsmc2.smumn.edu? > > Did you edit MX_DEVICE:[MX]MX_LOGICALS.DAT? > > You may also have to edit the Multinet logicals, but since I don't use > Multinet, I can't help you there. If you just want mail to change, and you're using MX, you don't need to change any MultiNet settings. -Dan Wing dwing@tgv.com / dwing@cisco.com cisco Systems, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 08:23:16 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU From: goathunter@madgoat.com (Hunter Goatley) Subject: Re: address_rewriter.c and sender,return-path headers Date: 15 Aug 1996 12:54:28 GMT Message-ID: <4uv6m4$jmq@news.wku.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU "Graham Walmsley" writes: > >No, the BLISS version of Address_rewrite does not update the Sender or >return-path headers. I have come to the same conclusion that you have that >address_rewriter is not being called for these headers. > Correct. MX Router adds those headers *after* the calls to ADDRESS_REWRITER. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 21:12:30 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU From: "Colin Briggs" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Subject: Does MX work with UCX and no DNS only HOST entries Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:10:38 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <02104159901813@danks.com.au> Can anyone tell me if MX will work with UCX without a DNS? I want to use SET SMTP/DEFAULT_ROUTER=mail.gateway to forward and receive all mail from a gateway machine that is multi-homed. MX can't see a "real" DNS and I don't want to run one just to forward mail from one machine to a gateway. -------------------------------------------------------------- Colin Briggs Internet: colin@danks.com.au John Danks & Son Pty Ltd Voice: 613 9264 5000 414-426 Lower Dandenong Rd Fax: 613 9264 5123 Braeside, Vic, 3195, Australia ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:45:32 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 10:43:42 MST From: cdooling@west.cscwc.pima.edu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@madgoat.com Message-ID: <009A7143.C09B6D00.3@west.cscwc.pima.edu> Subject: SMTP Unknown DATE SENT: 19-AUG-1996 10:41:16 We're running IUPOP3, Multinet 3.4, MX 4.2 on a VMS 5.5-2 system. Anone using a pop3 mail get UNKNOWN SMTP:Unknown for the from line in the e-mail and no subject line. I was under the impression iupop3 would rectify this, but I guess I was wrong. Any adivce? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cindy Dooling WEST::CDOOLING PimaCommunityCollege cdooling@west.cscwc.pima.edu 2202 W. Anklam voice: 520 884-6970 Tucson, Arizona 85709-0010 fax: 520 884-6033 http://west.cscwc.pima.edu/~cdooling Nothing but Net *** No FEAR, just a healthy respect *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 13:33:24 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 14:32:39 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: cdooling@west.cscwc.pima.edu, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <009A7163.BC962AE0.7@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: SMTP Unknown > We're running IUPOP3, Multinet 3.4, MX 4.2 on a VMS 5.5-2 system. > > Anone using a pop3 mail get UNKNOWN SMTP:Unknown for the from line in > the e-mail and no subject line. Eudora (or the equivalent) on the PC is misconfigured. IUPOP3 doesn't use, and knows nothing about, SMTP. - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:00:54 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU To: "MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU" Subject: What's wrong with VMS SMTP Date: Tue, 20 Aug 96 15:56:35 -0500 From: Junyao Xu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com -- [ From: Junyao Xu * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- We use MX with DEC TCP/IP. Recently, we got a problem with SMTP. We can not send email to a recipient host with Louts Notes mail system. Every time we got a bounce mail with the following error message. I even tried "telnet 25" and manually sent email. But a similar error came like this: "LESS THAN 4 CHARS RECEIVED, GOT->" I tried using UNIX to send mail to that host. All things seem fine. So I suspect something wrong with current VMS SMTP. I wonder anyone got the same problem? Thanks Junyao NC State University From: MX%"Postmaster@CPTVS4.CVM.NCSU.EDU" 20-AUG-1996 15:27:31.02 To: MX%"jxu@cptvs4.cvm.ncsu.edu" Subj: SMTP delivery error Return-Path: <> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:27:28 EDT From: SMTP delivery agent To: Subject: SMTP delivery error X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:" Note: this message was generated automatically. An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. --> Error description: Error-For: notes.mfang@a50vm1.trg.nynex.com Error-Code: 2 Error-Text: %MX_SMTP-F-CMD_UNRECOGNIZE, syntax error: command unrecognized -(Via a50vm1.trg.nynex.com) -Transcript: -Rcvd: 220 Soft-Switch Central V4L380P3 ready at 20 Aug 1996 15:33:43 GMT -Sent: HELO CPTVS4.CVM.NCSU.EDU -Rcvd: 250 OK CPTVS4.CVM.NCSU.ED, Pleased to meet you -Sent: MAIL FROM: -Rcvd: 500 LESS THAN 4 CHARS RECEIVED, GOT-> Error-End: 1 error detected ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:25:41 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU From: Matthew Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: What's wrong with VMS SMTP Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 09:17:34 -0700 Message-ID: <321B369E.40EE@tgv.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Junyao Xu wrote: > We use MX with DEC TCP/IP. Recently, we got a problem with SMTP. We can not > send email to a recipient host with Louts Notes mail system. Every time we > got a bounce mail with the following error message. I even tried "telnet 25" > and manually sent email. But a similar error came like this: "LESS THAN 4 > CHARS RECEIVED, GOT->" > > I tried using UNIX to send mail to that host. All things seem fine. So I > suspect something wrong with current VMS SMTP. I wonder anyone got the same > problem? I suspect the problem is an interaction between the way NETLIB is sending the SMTP data and the a bug in the SoftSwitch SMTP server on that host. In earlier revisions of NETLIB V2.0, commands would get sent using two network writes -- one for the command line, and a separate one for the pair. I expect that the SoftSwitch SMTP server is simply expecting to read the entire line, including the in a single read; this is a fairly common error that naive (or just plain incompetent) TCP/IP programmers make. You can "fix" this problem by upgrading to the latest version of NETLIB (V2.0J, if I remember correctly), which will glom all the data for the command into a single write. -Matt ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 04:15:14 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 11:14:19 EDT From: Dominique HOUVIEZ Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009A73A3.86F2AB80.3@l3av01.univ-lille3.fr> Subject: Installation problem with mx042 on a mixed cluster Hello Yesterday I upgraded from MX 4.1 to 4.2 my mixed cluster (1 Alpha server, 1 Alpha workstation, 4 VAXstations) all running VMS 6.2 - UCX 4.0 on Alpha - UCX 3.x on VAX. I have first installed it on Alpha, no problems... but when I installed it on VAXstation, I got error messages : ... * Where should the NETLIB libraries be placed [SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]]: %VMSINSTAL-I-SYSDIR, This product creates system disk directory SYS$COMMON:[SYS LIB]. %CREATE-I-EXISTS, SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB] already exists %NETLIB-I-LINKING, Linking image NETLIB_SHRXFR... %LINK-I-DATMISMCH, creation date of 22-APR-1995 00:08 in shareable image SYS$COM MON:[SYSLIB]LIBRTL.EXE;9 differs from date of 9-MAR-1994 01:29 in shareable image library SYS$CO MMON:[SYSLIB]IMAGELIB.OLB;1 %NETLIB-I-LINKING, Linking image NETLIB_UCX_SHR... The installation will continue for another 5 to 45 minutes, depending on your CPU type, distribution media, etc. No further input is required. Now loading the Message Exchange base software. %VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set D ... %MX-I-LINKING, Linking image MX_FLQ_SHR... %LINK-I-DATMISMCH, creation date of 22-APR-1995 00:08 in shareable image SYS$COM MON:[SYSLIB]LIBRTL.EXE;9 differs from date of 9-MAR-1994 01:29 in shareable image library SYS$CO MMON:[SYSLIB]IMAGELIB.OLB;1 %MX-I-LINKING, Linking image MX_MSG... %MX-I-LINKING, Linking image MX_SHR... %LINK-I-DATMISMCH, creation date of 22-APR-1995 00:08 in shareable image SYS$COM MON:[SYSLIB]LIBRTL.EXE;9 differs from date of 9-MAR-1994 01:29 in shareable image library SYS$CO MMON:[SYSLIB]IMAGELIB.OLB;1 %MX-I-LINKING, Linking image MX_MAILSHRP... %LINK-F-OPENIN, error opening SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]SYS.STB; as input -RMS-E-FNF, file not found %VMSINSTAL-E-INSFAIL, The installation of MX V4.2 has failed. mcp sh vers MX version id is: MX V4.1 VAX But, however all seems to work correctly, what did I miss ? Is it due to the version mismatch for UCX. This morning I have upgraded UCX on VAX, so now all is in phase. Should I reinstall MX ? An other subsidiary question : I first tried to directly install UCX 4.0A on Alpha and got a message telling that my 6.2 was not supported though I did not see anything in the SPD. Has anybody an information on that ? Thanks in advance -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=|=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dominique HOUVIEZ | Email: houviez@univ-lille3.fr Systems & Network eng. | Web: www.univ-lille3.fr Centre de Ressources Informatiques | Tel: 03 20 41 61 21 Universite Charles de Gaulle-Lille 3 | from abroad: +33 3 20 41 61 21 B.P. 149 | Fax: 03 20 41 60 01 F59653 VILLENEUVE d'ASCQ Cedex | from abroad: +33 3 20 41 60 01 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=|=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 08:17:40 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 08:56:14 EDT From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: houviez@univ-lille3.fr Message-ID: <009A7390.3CD64040.7@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: Installation problem with mx042 on a mixed cluster Dominique HOUVIEZ (houviez@univ-lille3.fr) writes: >An other subsidiary question : I first tried to directly install UCX 4.0A on >Alpha and got a message telling that my 6.2 was not supported though I did not >see anything in the SPD. Has anybody an information on that ? V4.0A of UCX is for VMS Alpha V7.0 and higher. V4.0 is for VMS Alpha up to V6.2. >%LINK-I-DATMISMCH, creation date of 22-APR-1995 00:08 in shareable image >SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]LIBRTL.EXE;9 > differs from date of 9-MAR-1994 01:29 in shareable image library >SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]IMAGELIB.OLB;1 This will be a problem for anything that links agains LIBRTL. You have done something to update LIBRTL, but you haven't placed it in IMAGELIB. To correct this, do the following: $ library/replace sys$library:imagelib.olb sys$library:librtl.exe >%LINK-F-OPENIN, error opening SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]SYS.STB; as input >-RMS-E-FNF, file not found Any image that requires access to kernel structures or routines will need to link against SYS.STB in order to find the addresses of those structures or routines. I would guess that someone, in order to conserve system disk space, deleted this file. Restore it from a backup. >mcp sh vers >MX version id is: MX V4.1 VAX Well, since the installation failed, of course the version will be V4.1, since that's what you were running prior to trying to install V4.2. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- Brian Tillman | Internet: tillman_brian@si.com Smiths Industries, Inc. | tillman@swdev.si.com 4141 Eastern Ave., MS239 | Hey, I said this stuff myself. Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 08:18:46 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 08:18:25 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: HOUVIEZ@UNIV-LILLE3.FR Message-ID: <009A738A.F42C6883.15@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Installation problem with mx042 on a mixed cluster Dominique HOUVIEZ writes: > >I have first installed it on Alpha, no problems... but when I installed it on >VAXstation, I got error messages : [...] >%NETLIB-I-LINKING, Linking image NETLIB_SHRXFR... >%LINK-I-DATMISMCH, creation date of 22-APR-1995 00:08 in shareable image SYS$COM >MON:[SYSLIB]LIBRTL.EXE;9 > differs from date of 9-MAR-1994 01:29 in shareable image library SYS$CO >MMON:[SYSLIB]IMAGELIB.OLB;1 Somebody's been messing up your system directories by copying new .EXEs into your SYS$LIBRARY or something like that. The messages above are just informational and can be ignored, though you probably should reinstall VMS on that system to get things back to normal (that would be the easiest way to do it, though it may not be easy to do, depending on whether or not this is a production system, etc.). >%MX-I-LINKING, Linking image MX_MAILSHRP... >%LINK-F-OPENIN, error opening SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]SYS.STB; as input >-RMS-E-FNF, file not found Someone deleted your system symbol table, which is needed to link MX_MAILSHRP. >But, however all seems to work correctly, what did I miss ? >Is it due to the version mismatch for UCX. This morning I have upgraded UCX on >VAX, so now all is in phase. Should I reinstall MX ? > It won't help until you restore the SYS$SYSTEM:SYS.STB file, at least. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer, The LOKI Group, Inc. http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:13:37 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 12:09:34 -0800 From: Dan Sugalski Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: Multithreaded SMTP delivery Is there any way to get MX to deliver mail messages destined to more than one recipient using multiple simultaneous SMTP connections? Right now when MX goes to deliver a mail message, it does each recipient in turn until it's finished. This is fine, but unfortunately for me, connections to some of the people on the list are unreliable. (The list hits Australia, the UK, and Brazil, along with some glaky ISP's here in the US) Delivery of a message can take a while as MX waits for each connection to time out. This isn't a big deal with 31 subscribers, but I'm looking at a list that may be quite a bit bigger, and I'm worried that messages are going to be haning around for an hour or three for the first pass. Is there some way to either get an SMTP delivery agent to deliver to multiple recipients at once, or have outgoing mail messages split up, either ny MLF or the Router agent? Dan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:19:30 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:17:43 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009A7874.2495FE0B.3@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Multithreaded SMTP delivery Dan Sugalski writes: > > Is there any way to get MX to deliver mail messages destined to more than >one recipient using multiple simultaneous SMTP connections? Not currently, no, but that's on my to do list when I have time. > This isn't a big deal with 31 subscribers, but I'm looking at a list that may be >quite a bit bigger, and I'm worried that messages are going to be haning around for >an hour or three for the first pass. I feel it too. My FSUPDATE list has 771 subscribers; my post there yesterday took more than 12 hours for the first pass. >Is there some way to either get an SMTP >delivery agent to deliver to multiple recipients at once, or have outgoing mail >messages split up, either ny MLF or the Router agent? > No, but those are other options I'll consider when I have time to look at it. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:06:45 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:05:48 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: SUGALSD@gw.lbcc.cc.or.us, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <009A7883.3DF423A0.1@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Multithreaded SMTP delivery > Is there any way to get MX to deliver mail messages destined to more than > one recipient using multiple simultaneous SMTP connections? I'm not sure that you and Hunter were talking about the same thing. His previous answer had to do with having more than one SMTP agent working on a mailing list at a same time. However, you do know (of course) that you can (and should) have more than one SMTP agent working on *different messages* at the same time. If the number of SMTP queues exceeds the number of mailing list messages being processed at a time, then you'll have a free outbound channel for other mail as users sent it. If memory serves, all you have to do to change the number of SMTP queues is to edit the file MX_DIR:MX_STARTUP_INFO.DAT, and change the line 004SMTP:*=4 as appropriate. (I have four queues.) - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:02:08 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 13:59:55 -0800 From: Dan Sugalski Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Subject: RE: Multithreaded SMTP delivery -Reply >>> Jonathan E. Hardis 08/28/96 12:05pm >>> > Is there any way to get MX to deliver mail messages destined to more than > one recipient using multiple simultaneous SMTP connections? I'm not sure that you and Hunter were talking about the same thing. His previous answer had to do with having more than one SMTP agent working on a mailing list at a same time. However, you do know (of course) that you can (and should) have more than one SMTP agent working on *different messages* at the same time. If the number of SMTP queues exceeds the number of mailing list messages being processed at a time, then you'll have a free outbound channel for other mail as users sent it. <<<<< Well, I haven't gotten Hunter's reply yet (Heck, I got yours before I got my original message), but I do have multiple SMTP agents--10 at the moment, though that's overkill for me right now. The inbound server'll handle 16 incoming messages too, if I'm reading the docs right. The server threads parameter is what threw me originally. I thought it was the number of simultaneous *outgoing* connections one of the agents would make, not the number of *incoming* connections. (Re-RTFMing cleared up that bit of confusion for me) I'm hopeful, but not that expectant. If MX doesn't do it now, adding this as a feature would be a fairly big pain, and probably not worth it. It may be possible to convince MLF to split outgoing mail into pieces, but I haven't looked at that yet. Dan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 11:23:35 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU From: dwing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: RE: Multithreaded SMTP delivery Date: 29 Aug 1996 16:09:33 GMT Message-ID: <504fbt$r81@cronkite.cisco.com> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <009A7874.2495FE0B.3@ALPHA.WKU.EDU>, Hunter Goatley writes: > Dan Sugalski writes: > > > > Is there any way to get MX to deliver mail messages destined to more than > >one recipient using multiple simultaneous SMTP connections? > > Not currently, no, but that's on my to do list when I have time. > > > This isn't a big deal with 31 subscribers, but I'm looking at a list that may be > >quite a bit bigger, and I'm worried that messages are going to be haning around for > >an hour or three for the first pass. > > I feel it too. My FSUPDATE list has 771 subscribers; my post there > yesterday took more than 12 hours for the first pass. A hack we implemented here was to limit the expansion of MLF to 100 destinations -- this way multiple outgoing SMTP agents would deliver to (at most) 100 users, which provides a little better throughput. It'd be nicer if MLF would also sort the addresses on hostname to deliver to multiple recipients on the same host (although there are more perfect solutions, simply sorting the addresses and using multiple RCPT TOs would help a lot). -Dan Wing dwing@tgv.com / dwing@cisco.com cisco Systems, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:25:11 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 10:22:44 -0800 From: Dan Sugalski Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: Multithreaded SMTP delivery >>> Dan Wing 08/29/96 08:09am >>> A hack we implemented here was to limit the expansion of MLF to 100 destinations -- this way multiple outgoing SMTP agents would deliver to (at most) 100 users, which provides a little better throughput. It'd be nicer if MLF would also sort the addresses on hostname to deliver to multiple recipients on the same host (although there are more perfect solutions, simply sorting the addresses and using multiple RCPT TOs would help a lot). <<< Do you have that hack available somewhere? I'd like to take a look at it. Dan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:34:57 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU From: dwing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: RE: Multithreaded SMTP delivery Date: 30 Aug 1996 14:49:16 GMT Message-ID: <506v1c$3sr@cronkite.cisco.com> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article , Dan Sugalski writes: > Do you have that hack available somewhere? I'd like to take a look at it. Matt Madison wrote this, and it should probably be changed to examine a logical instead of hard-coded at 100 recipients. Anonymous FTP to public.tgv.com in [.dwing]forward_message.b32. -Dan Wing dwing@tgv.com / dwing@cisco.com cisco Systems, Inc.