Archive-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 00:03:17 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 00:03:06 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@WKU.EDU Message-ID: <009A92B4.62E0978E.4@WKU.EDU> Subject: MX-LIST Administrivia: Monthly Post Posting statistics for list MX-LIST during September 1996 Total number of posts: 77 Total number of posters: 32 Total number of subscribers: 291 Last modified: 28-SEP-1995 13:33 (Updated digest info) Welcome to MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU, an electronic mailing list established for the discussion of the Message Exchange mail software. This is a routine posting you will see from time to time on MX-List. MX-List postings are also available in a daily digest format. To subscribe to the digest, send the following command in the body of a mail message to MXserver@LISTS.WKU.EDU: SUBSCRIBE MX-List-Digest "Your real name here" The MX-List archives are maintained at ARCHIVES@LISTS.WKU.EDU. To get a copy of any month's postings, send an e-mail message with the body SEND MX-List.yyyy-mm to ARCHIVES@LISTS.WKU.EDU, where "yyyy" is the year and "mm" is the numeric representation of the month. For example, the message SENDME MX-List.1992-04 will send the archives for April 1992. MX itself is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.spc.edu in [.MX.MX041]. You can also get it via e-mail by sending the commands SEND MX and SEND FILESERV_TOOLS on separate lines in the body of a mail message to FILESERV@LISTS.WKU.EDU. To remove yourself from the mailing list, send the following command to MXserver@LISTS.WKU.EDU: SIGNOFF MX-List MXserver supports a few other commands for your convenience. The following commands can be handled automatically by the list processor: SIGNOFF MX-List - to remove yourself from the list REVIEW MX-List - to get a list of subscribers QUERY MX-List - to get the status of your entry on the list SET MX-List DIGEST - to switch to digest mode SET MX-List NODIGEST - to switch to non-digest mode SET MX-List NOMAIL - to remain on the list but not receive mail SET MX-List MAIL - to resume receiving mail from the list SET MX-List CONCEAL - to not report your address in a REVIEW SET MX-List NOCONCEAL - to report your address in a REVIEW SET MX-List REPRO - to receive posts you make to MX-List SET MX-List NOREPRO - to not receive posts you make to MX-List LIST - to get a list of mailing lists served by WKUVX1 HELP - to receive a help file By default, subscriptions are set to MAIL, REPRO, NOCONCEAL. If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions about MX-List, please contact the list owner at the address below. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Hunter Goatley, Sr. OpenVMS Systems Programmer goathunter@LOKI.COM The LOKI Group, Inc. P.O. Box 9609 Bowling Green, KY 42102-9609 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 04:12:42 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Subject: Re: other wish for the ever-growing wish list Message-ID: From: levitte@lp.se (Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Date: 30 Sep 1996 23:23:50 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <009A9233.0C640BD8.20@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Hunter Goatley writes: >Those sites are behaving correctly according to RFC822. If they don't >support ESMTP, they don't have to support 8-bit chars. Yes, that's true, but it still forces you to use QP or your message doesn't get through. That's equally irritating, IMO, regardless of RFC-compliance. ;-) Hmmm... (*click, klop, klonk* (that was my brain reconnecting)) Right you are! -- R Levitte, Levitte Programming; Spannvägen 38, I; S-161 43 Bromma; SWEDEN Tel: +46-8-26 52 47, (via nation.se) +46-8-728 20 33; No fax right now PGP key fingerprint = A6 96 C0 34 3A 96 AA 6C B0 D5 9A DF D2 E9 9C 65 Check http://www.lp.se/~levitte for my public key. bastard@bofh.se ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 04:12:47 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU From: dwing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: MLF & lower case domain names Date: 1 Oct 1996 00:50:23 GMT Message-ID: <52ppsf$g8j@cronkite.cisco.com> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <199610010034.UAA08835@redstone.interpath.net>, "Rich Hill" writes: > I received the following request from one my list owners. What response > should I give him? > > | Some domains reject my mailings because the listserv automatically capitalizes > | the shills domain, e.g. > | > | "xxxx xxxx" (NOCASE) > | > | I notice that it says (NOCASE). Is there a way to change it to lower case? > > I understand about the 'case' issue for the username portion of the > address. The list in question is defined as /NOCASE. What can be done > about the domain name portion? MX doesn't pay any attention to the case of the domainname for its protection checking. -Dan Wing dwing@tgv.com / dwing@cisco.com cisco Systems, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 10:24:10 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU From: "David Murray" To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:24:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: MLF & lower case domain names Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: Rich.Hill@sim.org > Date: > From: mx-list@madgoat.com > Subject: MLF & lower case domain names > To: mx%"mx-list@madgoat.com" > Cc: > From: "Rich Hill" > Organization: SIM USA > To: MX-List@Madgoat.com > Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:35:28 -0400 > Subject: MLF & lower case domain names > Reply-to: MX-List@MadGoat.com > Priority: normal On Mon, 30 Sep 96 21:02:10, "Rich Hill" wrote: > I received the following request from one my list owners. What response > should I give him? > > | Some domains reject my mailings because the listserv automatically capitalizes > | the shills domain, e.g. > | > | "xxxx xxxx" (NOCASE) > | and, RFC 1034 says: By convention, domain names can be stored with arbitrary case, but domain name comparisons for all present domain functions are done in a case-insensitive manner, assuming an ASCII character set, and a high order zero bit. So it sounds like someone else is doing something wrong... David N. Murray | PDS Sr. Software Engineer | 670 Sentry Parkway 610/828-4294 | Blue Bell, PA 19422 dmurray@pdssoftware.com | ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 11:39:02 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 12:34:06 EDT From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@madgoat.com Message-ID: <009A931D.4CB1DAE0.5@swdev.si.com> Subject: Defining MX Bookreader docs In MX_EXE:MX___STARTUP.COM are the lines: $ IF F$PARSE ("MX_ROOT:[DOC]") .NES. "" $ THEN $ DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC/NOLOG MX_DOC MX_ROOT:[DOC] $ IF F$TRNLNM ("DECW$BOOKSHELF","LNM$SYSTEM") .NES. "" $ THEN $ CALL ADD_TO_SEARCHLIST DECW$BOOKSHELF MX_DOC:LIBRARY.DECW$BOOKSHELF; $ ELSE $ CALL ADD_TO_SEARCHLIST DECW$BOOK MX_DOC: $ CALL ADD_TO_SEARCHLIST DECW$BOOK MX_DOC: DECW$LOGICAL_NAMES $ ENDIF $ ENDIF What this seems to mean is that if DECW$BOOKSHELF is a system-wide logical name already, then add the library file as an equivalence string and if not, then add MX_DOC as an equivalence string to DECW$BOOK to both the system and the DECW$LOGICAL_NAME tables, but don't define DECW$BOOKSHELF. This just doesn't seem correct to me. In the first case, don't you also need to add MX_DOC to DECW$BOOK as an equivalence string? In the second case, why is DECW$BOOK added to in two name tables and DECW$BOOKSHELF not defined at all? -----------------------------+-------------------------------- Brian Tillman | Internet: tillman_brian@si.com Smiths Industries, Inc. | tillman@swdev.si.com 4141 Eastern Ave., MS239 | Hey, I said this stuff myself. Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 16:22:05 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 16:20:28 CST6CDT5,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 From: "Dave Harrold, CAM Operations, Ext. 25639" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@lists.wku.edu, VMS-WEB-Daemon@KJSL.COM Message-ID: <009A933C.EC04B963.7@campv3.mfg.mke.ab.com> Subject: Creating a Web-searchable archive of a MX mailing list. Hello everybody, I would like to create a web-accessible archive of the messages on an internal mailing list running on MX V4.2 using the OSU DECthreads web server. Is anybody doing this? If so, how? I would like to get something like a hypermail archive setup, but I didn't see a VMS version of hypermail. Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dave Harrold ........................................................................ David Harrold E-Mail: harrold@mfg.mke.ab.com CAM Systems Analyst Phone: (414) 382-5639 Allen-Bradley Company 1201 S. Second Street Milwaukee, WI 53204 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 16:36:25 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 16:36:16 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009A933F.212E538B.1@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Creating a Web-searchable archive of a MX mailing list. "Dave Harrold, CAM Operations, Ext. 25639" writes: > >Hello everybody, > >I would like to create a web-accessible archive of the messages on an internal >mailing list running on MX V4.2 using the OSU DECthreads web server. > >Is anybody doing this? I've almost had this working using WWWVMSINDEX, which you can get from Fote's home page. I don't have the URL handy right now, but you should be able to get there from the OSU Web server home page. I have it indexing MX mailing list archives, and searching, but the text retrievals aren't working yet. Not sure why, and I haven't really had time to pursue it. So, the upshot is, I, too, would be interested to know how this is done. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software Corporation (TCPware) http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 17:18:30 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 15:15:43 -0800 From: Dan Sugalski Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: VMS-WEB-Daemon@KJSL.COM, MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Creating a Web-searchable archive of a MX mailing list. -Reply >>> Dave Harrold, CAM Operations, Ext. 25639 10/01/96 04:20pm >>> Hello everybody, I would like to create a web-accessible archive of the messages on an internal mailing list running on MX V4.2 using the OSU DECthreads web server. Is anybody doing this? If so, how? I would like to get something like a hypermail archive setup, but I didn't see a VMS version of hypermail. <<< While it doesn't get you the full functionality of hypermail, you can make the archives of the list accessible this way as a stop-gap measure. Here are the steps I did: 1) Turn on archiving (duh). Have each list you're archiving go to a different directory. 2) make the directories and archives accessible to the web server. ACL lists are best unless you just want to open things up. 3) Put in a translation rule that maps the archive directory into the web server's space. I use: map /dka300/www/sidhe/mlarchive/* /mx_root/mlf/mailing_lists/archive/* (you'll probably want the first map to something like /mail_archive/* Mine's like that 'cause I have some strange rules for a multi-homed server) 4) point a web page at the archives. Make the server notice your changed configuration and you should be all set. The one downside is that you're cheating and letting people use directory browsing to get the archive for the whole month and search themselves. Dan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 22:27:02 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 22:26:50 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@MADGOAT.COM Message-ID: <009A9439.44EA75A7.4@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: MX and the VMS MAIL signature file support A warning to those of you running OpenVMS V7.x. With V7.0 (Alpha, anyway), support for mail signature files was added to VMS MAIL. I haven't had a chance to really play with it yet, but it appears that if you define a mail signature file inside of MAIL, then that file is automatically appended to all outgoing mail for the account (which makes sense). HOWEVER, that file is also included (or an attempt is made to include the file) when callable MAIL is used from an account set up with a mail signature file. And if that account happens to be the one you run MX Local under, guess what happens? So, until the next version of MX, when I can explicitly disable mail signature file support in MX Local, do *not* define a VMS MAIL signature file for the account under which you run MX (normally SYSTEM, for most sites). Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software Corporation (TCPware) http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 19:54:50 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Subject: Re: MLF & lower case domain names Message-ID: From: levitte@lp.se (Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Date: 02 Oct 1996 23:22:31 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <009A92A5.37B7E9E0.4@garnet.nist.gov> "Jonathan E. Hardis" writes: > | "xxxx xxxx" (NOCASE) > | > | I notice that it says (NOCASE). Is there a way to change it to lower case? NOCASE only applies on the username part of the address. At least that's how I understand it... -- R Levitte, Levitte Programming; Spannvägen 38, I; S-161 43 Bromma; SWEDEN Tel: +46-8-26 52 47, (via nation.se) +46-8-728 20 33; No fax right now PGP key fingerprint = A6 96 C0 34 3A 96 AA 6C B0 D5 9A DF D2 E9 9C 65 Check http://www.lp.se/~levitte for my public key. bastard@bofh.se ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 13:22:39 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Message-ID: From: "Noah B. Hart" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: "'MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU'" Subject: Sending DSNlink mail via MX Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 11:25:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I am trying to send mail to the address DNS%HELP using MX as the >link between my PC and VMSmail. > >I can send mail to any of my VMS accounts, and receive mail as well. >However when I try to send mail to any of the DSN% accounts, I get the >following type of error: >===================================================== >Problem occurred during message routing for the following: > >Address: (originally: <"LIAXP::DSN@HELP">) >Error: Invalid address. > >Message follows. > >Received: from mendocino.tlcflex.com by liaxp.lipman.com (MX V4.2 AXP) with >SMTP; Fri, 04 Oct 1996 09:20:04 PDT >Received: by mendocino.tlcflex.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server >Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id ><01BBB1D5.D5111EC0@mendocino.tlcflex.com>; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:24:24 -0700 >Message-ID: > >From: "Noah B. Hart" >To: 'DSN-HELP' <"LIAXP::DSN%HELP"@liaxp.dnet> >====================================================== > >The MX routing log file has the following information: > >====================================================== >4-OCT-1996 09:15:42.79 %PROCESS, Processing entry number 25 > 4-OCT-1996 09:15:42.94 %PROCESS, Status from READ_INFO was 00000001 > 4-OCT-1996 09:15:42.94 %PROCESS, Recipient #0: ><"LIAXP::DSN%HELP"@liaxp.dnet> > 4-OCT-1996 09:15:42.94 %REWRITE, No rewrite rules matched ><"LIAXP::DSN%HELP"@liaxp.dnet> > 4-OCT-1996 09:15:42.94 %FINDPATH, domain name LIAXP.DNET matched path >pattern *LIAXP* > 4-OCT-1996 09:15:42.94 %PROCESS, Rewrote <"LIAXP::DSN%HELP"@liaxp.dnet> as ><"LIAXP::DSN%HELP"@liaxp.dnet> >- next hop liaxp.dnet, path 1 > 4-OCT-1996 09:15:42.94 %FINDALIAS, %-dehacked "LIAXP::DSN%HELP" into: ><"LIAXP::DSN@HELP"> > 4-OCT-1996 09:15:42.94 %PROCESS, Invalid address: <"LIAXP::DSN@HELP"> >======================================================= > >I can see that the FINDALIAS is changing the % to @ which messes up the >address. > >However, if from the VMS system, I type the following >$ mail nl: mx%"""dsn%help""@liaxp" /subject=test > >Everything looks fine, but nothing ever gets sent out. >======================================================= > 4-OCT-1996 09:29:58.77 %PROCESS, Processing entry number 7 > 4-OCT-1996 09:29:58.87 %PROCESS, Status from READ_INFO was 00000001 > 4-OCT-1996 09:29:58.87 %PROCESS, Message originated in VMS Mail. > 4-OCT-1996 09:29:59.27 %PROCESS, Updating the QENT source address. > 4-OCT-1996 09:29:59.28 %PROCESS, Finished VMSmail-origin preprocessing. > 4-OCT-1996 09:29:59.28 %PROCESS, Marking this entry as finished. >======================================================= > >If from the VMS system I type: >$mail nl: dsn%help /subject=test > >Every works fine. > >So, How do I prevent the FINDALIAS from doing the translation, or ... >how do I tell MX to forward the message to DSN for processing? > >Any Ideas, > >Noah B. Hart >Systems Administrator > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 14:23:24 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 14:23:14 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009A9588.0ABF9E57.8@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Sending DSNlink mail via MX "Noah B. Hart" writes: > >Address: (originally: <"LIAXP::DSN@HELP">) MX is seeing the DSN%HELP and "percent-hacking it"---changing it to "DSN@HELP". Percent-hacking is common when sending mail through a gateway: user%node.bitnet@gateway.dom When gateway.dom gets it, it changes it to USER@NODE.BITNET and sends it on. >> 4-OCT-1996 09:15:42.94 %FINDALIAS, %-dehacked "LIAXP::DSN%HELP" into: >><"LIAXP::DSN@HELP"> Here it is in the log. On the surface, you might think you could just disable %-hacking, but it doesn't work that way. MX will still be unable to forward the message to DSN%HELP, though it's been so long since I've traced through it, I've forgotten exactly why. In any case, the way I would recommend you try to do this is with redirecting your DSN% mail to the MX SITE interface and do the MAIL to DSN%HELP from there. That will probably work best. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software Corporation (TCPware) http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:54:58 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:52:11 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 From: seagrove@cncacc.cn.edu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@madgoat.com CC: seagrove@cncacc.cn.edu Message-ID: <009A9A21.8DF92854.147@cncacc.cn.edu> Subject: UCX 4.1 & POP server & MX I had posted a message yesterday about having problems getting UCX 4.1 (Digital's TCP/IP) and the POP server that came with UCX 4.1 to work with MX. My understanding was (and several of you have confirmed it) that MX was an SMTP implementation. This meant that Digital's SMTP needed to be disabled if we install MX (which I did). However, when trying Eudora or Pegasus I can send a message to the Alpha running MX fine but when I try to check for new mail on the Alpha the Eudora or Pegasus clients say "connection refused" and the UCX$POP account e-mails me (as postmaster) the following: %SYSTEM-F-PRIVINSTALL, shareable images must be installed to run privileged image" From a little big of digging it appears that Digital's SMTP image is what it's looking for. In the release notes for Digital's UCX 4.1 Digital states "The UCX POP server is intended to be used with the UCX SMTP server. Digital does not support the UCX POP server when you use it in conjunction with third-party SMTP mailers such as the MX software, even though a third-party configuration might function successfully". Is this just the usual disclaimer? Am I just simply overlooking something? Thanks. Mark Seagroves Carson-Newman College ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:40:45 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU From: desroches@woods.uml.edu (Dick Desroches, ACC Systems Manager) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: More info re: need help with file server Date: 10 Oct 96 11:28:48 -0500 Message-ID: <1996Oct10.112848.1@aspen> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Here is additional information about my previous posting about not being able to use a file server. Here are the descriptions of the mailing list and file server as copied from MCP. So where do I send email without being told that the username doesn't exist? I have tried "fileserv", "file_server", "ARD-Archives" and other without success. Thanks, Dick Desroches ============================================================================= MCP> show list ard Name: ARD Owner: "landrigad@WOODS.UML.EDU" "desroches@WOODS.UML.EDU" Reply-to: List, NOSender Archive: MX_MLIST_DIR: Errors-to: landrigad@WOODS.UML.EDU Strip header: NOReceived, NOOther Private list: Yes Case sensitive: No Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:W,WORLD) MCP> show file File servers: Name: ARD-Archives, Manager: landrigad@woods.uml.edu Root: MX_MLIST_DIR: Linked to mailing list: ARD Delay threshold: 0 Send period: 17:00 - 09:00 Daily limits: Server: 0 Host: 0 User: 0 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:27:13 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:16:00 EDT From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: seagrove@cncacc.cn.edu Message-ID: <009A9A2D.436465E0.9@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: UCX 4.1 & POP server & MX Mark Seagroves (seagrove@cncacc.cn.edu) writes: >Am I just simply overlooking something? I saw the solution to your problem posted yesterday in response to the first time you posted (in Info-MadGoat?). Try entering the following command as a privileged user: $ @sys$startup:ucx$service_setup smtp This should install the file SYS$SHARE:UCX$SMTP_PARSESHR.EXE as a known image and allow the POP server to work, since it shares this file with UCX's SMTP. It will also, however, define the MAIL$PROTOCOL_SMTP logical name, which you might have defined to use MX. You might have to override this logical. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- Brian Tillman | Internet: tillman_brian@si.com Smiths Industries, Inc. | tillman@swdev.si.com 4141 Eastern Ave., MS239 | Hey, I said this stuff myself. Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:50:41 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:50:28 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009A9A42.D78CC7E8.1@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: More info re: need help with file server desroches@woods.uml.edu (Dick Desroches, ACC Systems Manager) writes: > >Here is additional information about my previous posting about not being >able to use a file server. Here are the descriptions of the mailing list >and file server as copied from MCP. So where do I send email without being >told that the username doesn't exist? I have tried "fileserv", >"file_server", "ARD-Archives" and other without success. > ARC-Archives is the name to use. Did you: - RESET the ROUTER and MLF agents aftering defining the list and server? - Ensure that there are no aliases with the same name(s)? - Try enabling MX_ROUTER_DEBUG to see what's going on with the messages you send? Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software Corporation (TCPware) http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:56:29 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Subject: Re: other wish for the ever-growing wish list Message-ID: From: levitte@lp.se (Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Date: 10 Oct 1996 23:43:31 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <009A9160.749689E8.13@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Hunter Goatley writes: methods. A few months ago, I hand-Telnetted to port 25 of more than a dozen sites around the world that rejected mail because it had 8-bit characters sent in the clear. None of them supported ESMTP (I guess they were expecting QP). That probably has changed now. I just sent you a log coming from a ESMTP site that refused 8BIT characters in the clear. Hunter, would it be very much hard work to make the SMTP delivery agent try the EHLO command before it tries the HELO command, and have it check for a "250 8BITMIME" response in the EHLO case? Hmm, also, with the MAIL FROM: command, the argument BODY=8BITMIME should be added. There's really not much more to it (well, yeah, enhancing the SMTP Server as well, but that's not major concern to me right now :-)). Anyway, you'll find what you need in RFC 1652. I'm merely asking you to consider putting this in the wishlist, nothing more... -- R Levitte, Levitte Programming; Spannvägen 38, I; S-161 43 Bromma; SWEDEN Tel: +46-8-26 52 47; No fax right now PGP key fingerprint = A6 96 C0 34 3A 96 AA 6C B0 D5 9A DF D2 E9 9C 65 Check http://www.lp.se/~levitte for my public key. bastard@bofh.se ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 19:27:21 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 19:27:10 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009A9A69.7EB6DBA5.5@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: Re: other wish for the ever-growing wish list levitte@lp.se (Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker) writes: > >Hunter, would it be very much hard work to make the SMTP delivery agent >try the EHLO command before it tries the HELO command, and have it check >for a "250 8BITMIME" response in the EHLO case? > [...] > >I'm merely asking you to consider putting this in the wishlist, nothing >more... > I never meant to suggest otherwise; it's on the wish list, it's just not a high-priority item for me at this time. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software Corporation (TCPware) http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:47:41 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@WKU.EDU Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 14:47:53 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 From: Scott McNeilly Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009A9B0B.A5AC0260.99@fred.bridgew.edu> Subject: RE: UCX 4.1 & POP server & MX >I had posted a message yesterday about having problems getting UCX 4.1 >(Digital's TCP/IP) and the POP server that came with UCX 4.1 to work >with MX. My understanding was (and several of you have confirmed it) >that MX was an SMTP implementation. This meant that Digital's SMTP >needed to be disabled if we install MX (which I did). However, >when trying Eudora or Pegasus I can send a message to the Alpha running >MX fine but when I try to check for new mail on the Alpha the Eudora >or Pegasus clients say "connection refused" and the UCX$POP account >e-mails me (as postmaster) the following: > >%SYSTEM-F-PRIVINSTALL, shareable images must be installed to run >privileged image" > >From a little big of digging it appears that Digital's SMTP image >is what it's looking for. In the release notes for Digital's >UCX 4.1 Digital states "The UCX POP server is intended to be used >with the UCX SMTP server. Digital does not support the UCX POP server >when you use it in conjunction with third-party SMTP mailers such as >the MX software, even though a third-party configuration might function >successfully". Is this just the usual disclaimer? >Am I just simply overlooking something? > I had this same problem a couple of weeks ago, and received invaluable help from other subscribers. Here is what I learned with their help. You need to INSTALL the following images. This should probably be put into your SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM file. (These are for a VAX. The names for the AXP images are slightly different, I believe, so check in UCX$SMTP_STARTUP.COM for the exact spelling if you are running on an Alpha machine.) SYS$SHARE:UCX$SMTP_MAILSHR.EXE /SHARE/OPEN SYS$SHARE:UCX$SMTP_PARSESHR.EXE /SHARE/OPEN Once these are installed, the SYSTEM-F-PRIVINSTALL message will go away. These are what UCX$POP needs to run. But UCX's SMTP must be disabled. You can't have both MX and UCX SMTP running at the same time. If you want to send and receive attachments, then you will also want to do the following: Define a system logical: "UCX$POP_IGNORE_MAIL11_HEADERS" = "TRUE" And in UCX, enter this command UCX> SET CONFIGURATION SMTP /OPTIONS=TOP_HEADERS Having done this, the UCX POP server is working just fine for us. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Mc Neilly email: smcneilly@bridgew.edu Assistant Director Phone: 508-697-1236 Information Services FAX: 508-697-1774 Bridgewater State College Bridgewater, MA 02325 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 02:45:08 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 09:44:36 +0200 (MET DST) From: PASZTOR Miklos Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@madgoat.com Subject: SMTP agent gets stuck. Timeout needed ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, If the remote end silently closes the TCP connection (sends a FIN) while MX SMTP sends mail, the TCP connection stays in CLOSE_WAIT, and the MX SMTP process waits forever. This actually happens with Mercury at the remote end, if the message exceeds a certain configured size. MX could circumvent the trouble if it would close the connection after a certain inactivity timeout. Note also that something similar can happen with XSMTP: if for some reason there is no XSMTP server at the remote X.25 address, but the connection gets established, XSMTP waits forever for a "220 X25 SMTP server ready" command. Again, MX could be more clever, and time out. I wonder if others have experienced similar scenarios, and what the solution was, or am I missing something ? TIA. Regards, Miklos ------------------------------------- PASZTOR, Miklos pasztor@sztaki.hu MTA SZTAKI/ASZI Budapest, Hungary ------------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 03:24:47 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:25:15 GMT1 From: tobiasz@delta.sggw.waw.pl Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009A9E0B.9EA0A473.12@delta.sggw.waw.pl> Subject: RE: SMTP agent gets stuck. Timeout needed ? >From: MX%"MX-List@MadGoat.com" 15-OCT-1996 10:03:55.18 >Subj: SMTP agent gets stuck. Timeout needed ? > > > Hello, > > If the remote end silently closes the TCP connection (sends a FIN) > while MX SMTP sends mail, the TCP connection stays in CLOSE_WAIT, > and the MX SMTP process waits forever. This actually happens with > Mercury at the remote end, if the message exceeds a certain configured > size. Yes, I've seen the same problem with sending mail to Mercury (Novell). MX SMTP process stayed forever (size of message was really big). I have not analyzed the TCP transation. I was suspecting problems with Mercury. > I wonder if others have experienced similar scenarios, and what > the solution was, or am I missing something ? TIA. It happend only once to me, so after a few days I canceled th mails. But it is not a good solution for a long time. Jacek Tobiasz ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:37:11 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 17:27:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: PASZTOR Miklos Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: tobiasz@delta.sggw.waw.pl CC: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: SMTP agent gets stuck. Timeout needed ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 15 Oct 1996 tobiasz@delta.sggw.waw.pl wrote: > Yes, I've seen the same problem with sending mail to Mercury (Novell). > MX SMTP process stayed forever (size of message was really big). I have not > analyzed the TCP transation. I was suspecting problems with Mercury. > Well, I've enabled smtp debugging. Mercury simply closes the connection. I think that something like: 552 Requested mail action aborted: exceeded storage allocation would be more approriate. Anyway MX could time out. This will not be unique. Regards, Miklos ----------------------------------- Pa'sztor Miklo's pasztor@sztaki.hu MTA SZTAKI/ASZI Budapest, Hungary Hungarian Academy of Sciences ----------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:49:31 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:49:14 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009A9E0E.F818B006.17@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: SMTP agent gets stuck. Timeout needed ? PASZTOR Miklos writes: > >On Tue, 15 Oct 1996 tobiasz@delta.sggw.waw.pl wrote: >> Yes, I've seen the same problem with sending mail to Mercury (Novell). >> MX SMTP process stayed forever (size of message was really big). I have not >> analyzed the TCP transation. I was suspecting problems with Mercury. > > Well, I've enabled smtp debugging. Mercury simply closes > the connection. I think that something like: > > 552 Requested mail action aborted: exceeded storage allocation > > would be more approriate. Yes, that's what it should do.... > Anyway MX could time out. This will not > be unique. > The code could be modified to time out while waiting for replies. Everything's already there in SMTP_OUT.B32, except that most of the calls to GET_REPLY() don't pass a timeout value. You could modify the code to pass that value, if you wanted. I'll try to look into this for a future version. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software Corporation (TCPware) http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 15:32:16 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:31:55 -0700 From: DWING@TGV.COM (Dan Wing) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: randrew@CCTR.UMKC.EDU CC: MX-LIST@AXP1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <961016133155.2025364a@tgv.com> Subject: RE: Smtp server crashing >We are having a persistent problem with our Message Exchange >4.1 processes. The SMTP_Server procs die, and the only error >we seem to be able to find is this... > >%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 16-OCT-1996 08:23:10.87 %%%%%%%%%%% >Message from user SYSTEM on AXP1 >MX SMTP Server (pid 21434E35) exiting, status = 10248074 > >AXP1-$ gimme 10248074 >%STR-F-STRTOOLON, string is too long (greater than 65535) > >This may not be the right group to send this to, but with all >the VMS people out there I was hoping it would ring a bell in >some guru's mind. > >I dont know if its related, but we also have a problem where >the queue reports some hundreds of entries with a "queue stat" >command, but a show queue/full only shows us maybe a tenth of >that many. > >If anybody has a clue regarding this mess, >I'd be happy to hear it. The mailing list for MX is mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu, or newsgroup vmsnet.mail.mx. To subscribe send mail to mx-list-request@wkuvx1.wku.edu with SUBSCRIBE in the body of your message. The problem you're having is likely a loooong header from a host. There was a rash of spamming a few weeks ago which tripped this bug in MX's SMTP Server -- you might now just be getting these spams. I described methods to use with MultiNet to determine where the spams are coming from to (help) prevent MX from crashing. You can get MX-List archives from fileserv@wkuvx1.wku.edu. Also see [.mx.contrib]mx_watchdog.com on host ftp.spc.edu -- this can restart the MX SMTP Server process when it dies. Also, the current version of MX is V4.2. -Dan Wing dwing@tgv.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 15:34:50 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:34:37 -0700 From: DWING@TGV.COM (Dan Wing) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: randrew@CCTR.UMKC.EDU CC: MX-LIST@AXP1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <961016133437.2025364a@tgv.com> Subject: RE: Smtp server crashing >I dont know if its related, but we also have a problem where >the queue reports some hundreds of entries with a "queue stat" >command, but a show queue/full only shows us maybe a tenth of >that many. That is normal -- QUEUE STATUS reports the number of (messages * recipients) and QUEUE SHOW shows just the messages. If you multiply the recipients shown with QUEUE SHOW/FULL you should get the same number reported with QUEUE STATUS. >If anybody has a clue regarding this mess, >I'd be happy to hear it. -d ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:38:33 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:22:21 EDT From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009A9F0F.0DA53E20.22@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: Smtp server crashing Dan Wing (dwing@tgv.com) writes: >The mailing list for MX is mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu, or newsgroup >vmsnet.mail.mx. To subscribe send mail to mx-list-request@wkuvx1.wku.edu >with SUBSCRIBE in the body of your message. A better name to use is MX-List@madgoat.com, which is what the Reply-To headers from this list contain. This allows the list to be relocated transparently. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- Brian Tillman | Internet: tillman_brian@si.com Smiths Industries, Inc. | tillman@swdev.si.com 4141 Eastern Ave., MS239 | Hey, I said this stuff myself. Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:56:30 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:57:25 CDT From: J Kmoch Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@MADGOAT.COM CC: kmoch@whscdp.whs.edu Message-ID: <009A9F1C.55449660.3@whscdp.whs.edu> Subject: Have a mime-encoded note - now what do I do with it? --------------75386C104228 Content-Type: multipart/appledouble; boundary="----------ad23E814B8D1"; x-mac-type="43575750"; x-mac-creator="424F424F" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Web page tutorial" ------------ad23E814B8D1 Content-Type: application/applefile Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 AAUWBwACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUAAAADAAAAVgAAABEAAAAJAAAAZwAAACAAAAAI AAAAhwAAABAAAAAEAAAAlwAAAAAAAAACAAAAlwAAArxXZWIgcGFnZSB0dXRvcmlhbENXV1BC T0JPAQAA+QI1AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAf+fairvn3Y85LbQwA+fhvqwAAAQAAAAJWAAAB VgAAAGb/AAAAAwACAf0AAAAAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABFXZWIgcGFnZSB0dXRvcmlh bAIAAABDV1dQQk9CTwEAAABDV1dQQk9CTwEA/////wAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK6Jlq4A AFnDAAACvAAAAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA -- Joe Kmoch Washington High School kmoch@whscdp.whs.edu 2525 N. Sherman Blvd (414) 449-2765 (office) Milwaukee, WI 53210 (414) 444-9250 (fax) (414) 444-9760 (gen school phone) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:52:53 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu From: dwing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: Have a mime-encoded note - now what do I do with it? Date: 17 Oct 1996 00:13:00 GMT Message-ID: <543tmc$7ad@cronkite.cisco.com> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <009A9F1C.55449660.3@whscdp.whs.edu>, J Kmoch writes: [...] See base64-decoder.zip in mx_root:[contrib] -Dan Wing dwing@tgv.com / dwing@cisco.com cisco Systems, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:53:08 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu From: dwing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: SMTP agent gets stuck. Timeout needed ? Date: 16 Oct 1996 23:39:25 GMT Message-ID: <543rnd$43g@cronkite.cisco.com> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article , PASZTOR Miklos writes: > > Hello, > > If the remote end silently closes the TCP connection (sends a FIN) > while MX SMTP sends mail, the TCP connection stays in CLOSE_WAIT, > and the MX SMTP process waits forever. This actually happens with > Mercury at the remote end, if the message exceeds a certain configured > size. MX could circumvent the trouble if it would close the connection > after a certain inactivity timeout. You shouldn't even need that -- if a FIN is sent and the underlying TCP implementation goes into CLOSE-WAIT, then the underlying TCP implementation has ACKed the FIN and sent a close to the application and the underlying TCP implementation is waiting for the application (MX) to shutdown so it can send a FIN and get an ACK from the remote end. See RFC 793, page 23. I assume NETLIB can communicate that information to the application; it may be simply that MX's SMTP agents (clients) aren't expecting an abnormal termination when they're sending the SMTP data. Glancing at .SMTP]SMTP_OUT.B32 it appears it'll handle receiving a bad response from NETLIB's TCP_SEND, but I don't know if receiving an unexpected FIN will cause NETLIB's TCP_SEND to send back a bad status.... > Note also that something similar can happen with XSMTP: if for some > reason there is no XSMTP server at the remote X.25 address, but > the connection gets established, XSMTP waits forever for a "220 X25 SMTP > server ready" command. Again, MX could be more clever, and time out. The same code appears to be in XSMTP_OUT.B32 and SMTP_OUT.B32 (search for "TMO") to wait for replies. Enable debugging for XSMTP and see if the log file indicates how long it is waiting for.... > I wonder if others have experienced similar scenarios, and what > the solution was, or am I missing something ? TIA. -Dan Wing dwing@tgv.com / dwing@cisco.com cisco Systems, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:55:40 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:51:53 NZDT From: Lindsay Vette Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: lindsay@countercorp.galen.co.nz Message-ID: <009A9FBA.D1443E48.4@countercorp.galen.co.nz> Subject: RE: Have a mime-encoded note - now what do I do with it? Hi there, > Subject: Have a mime-encoded note - now what do I do with it? Extract the message, get it onto a PC and use an application like Wincode to decode it. You can find Wincode on http://www.windows95.com > Content-Type: application/applefile On second thoughts, you may need to get it to a Mac, and find a Mac based MIME decoder judging by the application type. Cheers, Lindsay -- Lindsay Vette | Internet: lindsay@countercorp.galen.co.nz Technical Development/Support | X.25: PSI%(05301)97000368::LINDSAY Countercorp Business Systems Ltd | Home: lindsayv@xtra.co.nz Level 13, 125 Queen St | Phone: +64 9 309 7772 P.O. Box 105 339 | Fax: +64 9 309 2424 Auckland, New Zealand | Batphone: 025 850 379 Hip Hop for VMS System Managers: MC Authorize is in the house! ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 03:16:39 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 04:16:03 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: kmoch@whscdp.whs.edu, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <009A9F6A.5FE601A0.1@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Have a mime-encoded note - now what do I do with it? > Subject: Have a mime-encoded note - now what do I do with it? > Content-Type: multipart/appledouble; boundary="----------ad23E814B8D1"; > x-mac-type="43575750"; x-mac-creator="424F424F" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Web page tutorial" > > Content-Type: application/applefile > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 This is a Macintosh question, not an MX question. 1) Transfer the received mail message to your Mac. 2) Download and use "YA Base64 Decoder" from info-mac. - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:54:32 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:48:08 EDT From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <009A9F90.622463A0.7@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: Have a mime-encoded note - now what do I do with it? Jonathan E. Hardis (hardis@garnet.nist.gov) writes: >This [decoding a BASE64 encoded document] is a Macintosh question, not an MX >question. > >1) Transfer the received mail message to your Mac. > >2) Download and use "YA Base64 Decoder" from info-mac. Not at all. MX contains a tool in [.CONTRIB]BASE64_DECODER.ZIP that will do it and MMENCODE has also been ported to VMS. The latter will handle quoted-printable as well as BASE64. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- Brian Tillman | Internet: tillman_brian@si.com Smiths Industries, Inc. | tillman@swdev.si.com 4141 Eastern Ave., MS239 | Hey, I said this stuff myself. Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it. -----------------------------+-------------------------------- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:53:06 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:52:29 EDT From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: tillman@swdev.si.com, hardis@garnet.nist.gov Message-ID: <009A9FED.313A2240.5@garnet.nist.gov> Subject: RE: Have a mime-encoded note - now what do I do with it? >>> x-mac-type="43575750"; x-mac-creator="424F424F" >>> Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Web page tutorial" >> This is a Macintosh question, not an MX question. > Not at all. MX contains a tool in [.CONTRIB]BASE64_DECODER.ZIP that > will do it Will do what? Note that the file name "Web page tutorial" is not a legal under VMS, and there's the Mac file system type and creator information. You would lose all of this if you tried to decode the file on the VAX. - Jonathan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 23:53:50 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 00:52:18 EDT From: "G. Del Merritt" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@madgoat.com Message-ID: <009AA017.137742E0.1@intranet.com> Subject: X-MX-Comment: QUOTED-PRINTABLE message automatically decoded I seem to have run in to yet another variant on the message-has-long-lines- that-VMSmail-truncates problem. I don't remember seeing this discussed (recently); sorry if this has already been covered. One of my users noticed that mail from certain individuals on an "external" mailing list would regularly get truncated to 255 characters. I patiently explained that VMSmail (we're running MX 4.2 under OpenVMS/VAX 6.1, with UUCP 2.0) was the problem. I also let him know that I and others consider it poor nettiquette to compose long one-line "paragraphs", specifically when the paragraphs exceed about 80 characters. Even so, I allowed that we're on thin ice, since by RFC messages are limited to 1000 characters. So he dutifully passed all this along. The response was less than sympathetic, and the other fellow pointed out that "you should upgrade your system so that it can handle QUOTED-PRINTABLE". My user started to respond, "well, yeah, but I _have_ received such messages, and I can wade through all the ='s OK", but he noticed the header in the recent messages in question: X-MX-Comment: QUOTED-PRINTABLE message automatically decoded The older messages he remembered being "OK" (lot's of ='s, but no truncation) came from our UUCP-only days, before we started using MX internally. (UUCP is now just our external email gateway.) So the scene appears to be: - remote user composes long-single-line-paragraph message and sends. - remote user's MUA or mailer converts it to QUOTED-PRINTABLE, which has "lines" that don't exceed circa 78 characters, thank you. - message is delivered to us, and progresses to the point of "final" delivery on a system running MX. - MX does local user the favor of un-QUOTED-PRINTABLE-ing the message, which has "lines" longer than 255 bytes. - VMSmail (and/or the callable interface) chops the long line(s). Is there a way to disable such automatic decoding? The only reference I saw to QUOTED-PRINTABLE is in [.DOC]MX_USER_GUIDE.TXT, section 1.8, but it doesn't appear to be relevant to the problem at hand. Is there a "reasonable" way for the decoder to understand the limitation(s) of VMSmail, and perhaps further alter the message so that it isn't truncated (perhaps with another header like "X-MX-COMMENT: had to added newlines to message to prevent truncation")? Is VMSmail "fixed" in 6.2 or 7.0, so I should just stop whining and upgrade? Thanks. This isn't pressing, since the manager of the list in question stepped in and asked that folk avoid the single-long-line-for-a-paragraph syndrome. But it is likely that it will happen again as more an more "just folk" fire up their friendly peecee and get e-connected. -- Del Merritt, ** del@IntraNet.com IntraNet, Inc., One Gateway Center #700, Newton, MA 02158 Voice: 617-527-7020; FAX: 617-527-1761 Just say no to Clipper. You may not add me to a commercial mailing list or send me commercial advertising without my consent. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 07:17:57 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 07:17:48 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009AA04C.EDC5D855.7@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: X-MX-Comment: QUOTED-PRINTABLE message automatically decoded "G. Del Merritt" writes: > >Is there a way to disable such automatic decoding? The only reference I saw >to QUOTED-PRINTABLE is in [.DOC]MX_USER_GUIDE.TXT, section 1.8, but it doesn't No, you can't disable that, though I should have allowed that when I added that feature. Added to the wish list..... >appear to be relevant to the problem at hand. Is there a "reasonable" way for >the decoder to understand the limitation(s) of VMSmail, and perhaps further >alter the message so that it isn't truncated (perhaps with another header like >"X-MX-COMMENT: had to added newlines to message to prevent truncation")? Is >VMSmail "fixed" in 6.2 or 7.0, so I should just stop whining and upgrade? > No, it's not "fixed," though adding some more smarts to MX Local is on my to do list.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software Corporation (TCPware) http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 15:05:26 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961018200225.0071646c@pop.case.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:02:25 -0400 To: MX-List@MadGoat.COM From: Tom Crow Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Monitoring MX Performance Fellows- Is there any way to gather stats on my MX mail server? I'm looking for basic information like numbers of messages in and out as well as listserv totals. I would also like to get some info on system resource utilization. Anyone been there 'n done that? TIA Tom Crow ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 15:13:18 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 15:13:09 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: CROW@NS.CASE.ORG Message-ID: <009AA08F.55A852C6.5@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Monitoring MX Performance Tom Crow writes: > >Fellows- > >Is there any way to gather stats on my MX mail server? I'm looking for >basic information like numbers of messages in and out as well as listserv >totals. I would also like to get some info on system resource utilization. > >Anyone been there 'n done that? TIA > Check out the /ACCOUNTING qualifiers for SET LOCAL, SET SMTP, etc. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software Corporation (TCPware) http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:05:32 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Message-ID: <3.0.32.19961018160342.018b1c90@houdini.qualcomm.com> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:03:47 -0700 To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU From: Jeff Beckley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Date: header problem with V4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello system administrators, I'm the project lead of Windows Eudora (an email client) here at Qualcomm, and I'm contacting this list concerning a problem with the format of the Date: headers that are coming out of version 4.2 MX SMTP servers. The Date: headers added by these SMTP servers take the following format: Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 05:34:48 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 This "unusual" timezone format causes problems for Eudora. In fact, the syntax is contrary to RFC 822 specifications. I've noticed that versions 4.3 and 4.1 don't seem to have this problem, and that there are some deployments of 4.2 that don't have this problem. What I'm wondering is if this is a known bug in version 4.2, and whether there's some easy upgrade path for sites to take, or maybe it just takes some configuration to remove the problem. Thanks! ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:28:13 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:23:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Harrington B. Laufman" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Seeing fuller headers with MX 4.1 To: mx-list@madgoat.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I have a user being harassed with spoofed mail. I'd like to see the entire header of the message but the message he forwarded to me only says ( I substitute John Doe for the name): From: Noname Thus, 14 Oct 1996 07:17:23 -0700 To: John Doe Subject: ! How can we see the "received from:" sequence? Regards, Harry ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:43:02 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:42:49 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009AA2B4.4D953B5E.19@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Date: header problem with V4.2 Jeff Beckley writes: > >The Date: headers added by these SMTP servers take the following format: > >Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 05:34:48 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 > [...] >What I'm wondering is if this is a known bug in version 4.2, and whether >there's some easy upgrade path for sites to take, or maybe it just takes >some configuration to remove the problem. > The latter. One of the timezone logicals (SYS$TIME_ZONE?) is set to the string "EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0" by the new universal time support in VMS. MX doesn't know about that format and is just taking the string as is. The simplest way around it is to define the logical MX_TIMEZONE: $ define/system/exec mx_timezone "EST" Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software Corporation (TCPware) http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:44:05 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:43:49 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009AA2B4.712EDFCF.23@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Seeing fuller headers with MX 4.1 "Harrington B. Laufman" writes: > >I have a user being harassed with spoofed mail. I'd like to see the >entire header of the message but the message he forwarded to me only says >( I substitute John Doe for the name): > >From: Noname >Thus, 14 Oct 1996 07:17:23 -0700 >To: John Doe >Subject: ! > >How can we see the "received from:" sequence? > I'm guessing you have them disabled via SET LOCAL? If so, undo the setting. Or catch the entry in the queue and look at the appropriate files in MX_FLQ_DIR: for that entry. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software Corporation (TCPware) http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:10:42 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:47:33 EDT From: "Brian Tillman, x8425" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: beckley@qualcomm.com Message-ID: <009AA2C5.BA6B6B20.5@swdev.si.com> Subject: RE: Date: header problem with V4.2 Jeff Beckley (beckley@qualcomm.com) writes: >I've noticed that versions 4.3 and 4.1 don't seem to have this problem, and >that there are some deployments of 4.2 that don't have this problem. That's interesting, considering there is no MX V4.3. -- Brian tillman_brian@si.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:11:22 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:47:16 +0200 From: "GWDVMS::MOELLER" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: Date: header problem with V4.2 Jeff Beckley notes: > I'm the project lead of Windows Eudora (an email client) here at Qualcomm, > and I'm contacting this list concerning a problem with the format of the > Date: headers that are coming out of version 4.2 MX SMTP servers. > > The Date: headers added by these SMTP servers take the following format: > > Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 05:34:48 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 > > This "unusual" timezone format causes problems for Eudora. In fact, the > syntax is contrary to RFC 822 specifications. >[...] MX (all versions) takes the timezone from the system logical name "MX_TIMEZONE" that's _supposed_ to contain the time zone string as required in the "Date:" header (like "-0500"). It seems to me that someone has confused this logical name with others that serve to hold a (Posix) "TZ" string (like the one shown above), and indeed mis-configured MX this way. Wolfgang J. Moeller, Tel. +49 551 2011516 or -510, moeller@gwdvms.dnet.gwdg.de GWDG, D-37077 Goettingen, F.R.Germany | Disclaimer: No claim intended! ----- ----- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:58:24 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:57:40 -0700 From: DWING@TGV.COM (Dan Wing) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: HLAUFMAN@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU, MX-LIST@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <961021115740.202107be@tgv.com> Subject: Re: Seeing fuller headers with MX 4.1 In article , you write: > I have a user being harassed with spoofed mail. I'd like to see the > entire header of the message but the message he forwarded to me only says > ( I substitute John Doe for the name): > > From: Noname > Thus, 14 Oct 1996 07:17:23 -0700 > To: John Doe > Subject: ! > > How can we see the "received from:" sequence? $ MCP MCP> SET LOCAL/HEADERS=TOP=ALL MCP> SAVE MCP> RESET/CLUSTER LOCAL MCP> EXIT -Dan Wing dwing@cisco.com cisco Systems, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:06:34 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Message-ID: <199610212003.JAA28925@storm.greta.cri.nz> From: "Colin Tinker" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@lists.wku.edu Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:04:45 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: REVIEW MX-List QUIT ********************************************************** Colin Tinker Institute of Water and Atomspheric Research Wellington Email: c.tinker@niwa.cri.nz New Zealand Ph: (04)386-0331 Fax: (04)386-2153 ********************************************************** ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:49:02 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Subject: Re: Date: header problem with V4.2 Message-ID: From: levitte@lp.se (Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Date: 22 Oct 1996 18:41:51 GMT To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <3.0.32.19961018160342.018b1c90@houdini.qualcomm.com> Jeff Beckley writes: The Date: headers added by these SMTP servers take the following format: Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 05:34:48 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 Making sure the logical MX_TIMEZONE is correctly defined is usually a win. Otherwise, I think UCX$TZ is used (assuming you run UCX. Otherwise, there's most certainly other logical names :-)). In your case, it should probably be one of the following: During "normal" time During daylight savings time Symbolic EST EDT Numeric -0500 -0400 I would check if MX_TIMEZONE is defined before I check anything else... -- R Levitte, Levitte Programming; Spannvägen 38, I; S-161 43 Bromma; SWEDEN Tel: +46-8-26 52 47; No fax right now PGP key fingerprint = A6 96 C0 34 3A 96 AA 6C B0 D5 9A DF D2 E9 9C 65 Check http://www.lp.se/~levitte for my public key. bastard@bofh.se ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:02:12 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu From: desroches@woods.uml.edu (Dick Desroches, ACC Systems Manager) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Need more help setting up file server Date: 22 Oct 96 16:30:24 -0500 Message-ID: <1996Oct22.163024.1@aspen> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU This is a follow up to a problem I had with creating a file server a couple weeks ago. Hunter helped me figure out why I kept getting a "user unknown" error whenever I sent email to the file server. However, I am still unable to get anything back from the file server. Here are the error messages I receive and the setup on my mailing list and fileserver. The file ard.1996-10 does exist within the mx_mlist_dir: directory as well as the file fileserv_help.txt yet I get the following messages back: Thanks, Dick Desroches =============================================================================== Subject: File server ARD-Archives: transaction log -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Command: help Error sending : error in directory name ---------- Command: sendme ard.1996-10 Unknown package name: ARD.1996-10 ---------- Command: list Error: no files matched "*" ---------- ============================================================================= MCP> Show list ard Mailing lists: Name: ARD Owner: "landrigad@WOODS.UML.EDU" "desroches@WOODS.UML.EDU" Reply-to: List, NOSender Archive: MX_MLIST_DIR: Errors-to: landrigad@WOODS.UML.EDU Strip header: NOReceived, NOOther Private list: Yes Case sensitive: No Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:W,WORLD) MCP> show file File servers: Name: ARD-Archives, Manager: landrigad@woods.uml.edu Root: MX_MLIST_DIR: Linked to mailing list: ARD Delay threshold: 0 Send period: 17:00 - 09:00 Daily limits: Server: 0 Host: 0 User: 0 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 11:16:40 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 12:16:09 EST From: "Charles T. Smith, Jr." Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@wku.edu Message-ID: <009AA5F6.C4B86E00.159@dragon.com> Subject: Problems with UUCP One of our downstreams is having a problem sending mail to a site that recently installed some security options in their SMTP mailer. The user uploads mail via DECUS UUCP, which then goes into MX. When the system here attempts to send it via UUCP, the smtp session shows the sender as user@domain.UUCP which the target system rejects because it cannot do a reverse lookup on the domain: * -Sent: MAIL FROM: * -Rcvd: 553 ... unable to route to UUCP host name The email From: header shows the fully qualified domain; however, the UUCP from header shows something along the lines of: From xxx Sat, 12 Oct 1996 02:39:32 EDT remote from yyyyy Is there any way to set up MX to rewrite the domain name, or use the domain from the "FROM:" header? Or, does anyone know off the top of their head how to force SCO UUCP to send from yyyyy.com on the uucp header? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:56:06 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:55:46 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 From: "Mark Seagroves, Dir of Academic Computing" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: seagrove@cncacc.cn.edu Message-ID: <009AA83E.A7343879.43@cncacc.cn.edu> Subject: # entries in queue always = highest entry I've just noticed something with mx that I believe has just started. When I do a "mcp queue stat" the number of current entries is always equal to the highest entry. If I do a "mcp queue show" I may only see a few entries when the highest entry might be several hundred. I've done a "mcp queue synchronize" and "mcp queue compress" but the problem still exists. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks. Mark Seagroves Dir, Academic Computing Carson-Newman College seagrove@cncacc.cn.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:19:39 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:17:20 EST From: DESROCHES@woods.uml.edu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@LISTS.WKU.EDU Message-ID: <009AA84A.0CB3D780.123@woods.uml.edu> Subject: Need more help with file server Hunter helped me a few weeks ago with setting up a file server. However, I am still unable to get anything back from the file server. Here are the error messages I receive and the setup on my mailing list and fileserver. The file ard.1996-10 does exist within the mx_mlist_dir: directory as well as the file fileserv_help.txt yet I get the following messages back: Hope you can help. Thanks, Dick Desroches =============================================================================== Subject: File server ARD-Archives: transaction log -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Command: help Error sending : error in directory name ---------- Command: sendme ard Unknown package name: ARD ---------- Command: list Error: no files matched "*" ---------- ============================================================================= Mailing lists: Name: ARD Owner: "landrigad@WOODS.UML.EDU" "desroches@WOODS.UML.EDU" Reply-to: List, NOSender Archive: MX_MLIST_DIR: Errors-to: landrigad@WOODS.UML.EDU Strip header: NOReceived, NOOther Private list: Yes Case sensitive: No Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:W,WORLD) MCP> show file File servers: Name: ARD-Archives, Manager: landrigad@woods.uml.edu Root: MX_MLIST_DIR: Linked to mailing list: ARD Delay threshold: 0 Send period: 17:00 - 09:00 Daily limits: Server: 0 Host: 0 User: 0 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:25:24 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:24:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven Bryan 644.3921" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: # entries in queue always = highest entry To: owner-mx-list , MX-List CC: seagrove Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hmmm. I'm just getting my 1st MX List server up today (I hope!) so will watch for this. Thanks for the tip? Anyone know where the MX List server FAQ stuff is, if any? I'm hunting for debug tips. Thanks! Steven Bryan Network Software Manager the State of Ohio Dept. of Administrative Services Ohio Data Network 1320 Arthur E. Adams Drive Columbus, Ohio 43221 614.644.3921 614.752.6108 (Fax) bryan@ohio.gov ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:39:27 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:39:06 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 From: "Mark Seagroves, Dir of Academic Computing" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: seagrove@cncacc.cn.edu Message-ID: <009AA84D.16D2BBA7.643@cncacc.cn.edu> Subject: # entries in queue always = highest entry... more info OK... The current entry when doing a "mcp queue stat" is 884 (out of 3501) and the highest entry used is 931. So, they are not staying the same. But, the current # of entries does NOT appear to be going down. When I do a "mcp queue show/all" I see about 26 entries (some labeled finish and some labeled inprog). Am I still missing something? I thought the # of entries in the queue would go up AND down as they were processed. Mark Seagroves Dir, Academic Computign (oops.. in line mode... that should be Computing) seagrove@cncacc.cn.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:02:10 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Message-ID: <2.2.16.19961028050122.2effee04@pc-185-60.osmre.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:01:22 +0600 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Rick Stacks Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: # entries in queue always = highest entry At 09:55 1996/10/28 EST5EDT4,M4.1., Mark Seagroves, Dir of Academic Computing wrote: >I've just noticed something with mx that I believe has just started. When >I do a "mcp queue stat" the number of current entries is always equal to >the highest entry. If I do a "mcp queue show" I may only see a few entries >when the highest entry might be several hundred. I've done a "mcp queue >synchronize" and "mcp queue compress" but the problem still exists. > >Anyone have any ideas? > Have you tried MCP QUE SYNC/RESET ??? >Thanks. > >Mark Seagroves >Dir, Academic Computing >Carson-Newman College >seagrove@cncacc.cn.edu > -- Rick Rick Stacks stacks@adpce.lrk.ar.us | They that give up essential liberty Ark Dept of Pollution Control | to obtain a little temporary safety 8001 National Dr. / POB 8913 | deserve neither liberty nor safety Little Rock, AR 72219 USA | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 18:39:22 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu From: Blacka@logica.com (Andrew Black) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: Smtp server crashing Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 17:26:12 GMT Message-ID: <552qdk$pvq@romeo.logica.co.uk> To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <961016133155.2025364a@tgv.com>, DWING@TGV.COM (Dan Wing) wrote: > > >The problem you're having is likely a loooong header from a host. There was >a rash of spamming a few weeks ago which tripped this bug in MX's SMTP >Server -- you might now just be getting these spams. I described methods to >use with MultiNet to determine where the spams are coming from to (help) >prevent MX from crashing. You can get MX-List archives from >fileserv@wkuvx1.wku.edu. > >Also see [.mx.contrib]mx_watchdog.com on host ftp.spc.edu -- this can >restart the MX SMTP Server process when it dies. > >Also, the current version of MX is V4.2. Is this problem fixed by 4.2? I have been seeing similar problem, and I suspect it is caused by spams. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:58:03 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu From: dwing@tgv.com ("Dan Wing") Subject: Re: UCX SMTP to MX Date: 29 Oct 1996 05:42:02 GMT Message-ID: <5545fa$gl6@cronkite.cisco.com> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com In article <01bbc27c$001f38c0$06fad096@explorer.obu.edu>, "John Selph" writes: > After noticing that large amounts of incoming mail bog our OpenVMS Alpha 7 > system down, I started looking for options. What I found is that popular > opinion is, MX is much better than the SMTP system in UCX. I have > downloaded and read the manuals for MX042, which looks fine. My questions > are this, for those with experience: > 1. Won't all the currently held mail in UCX SMTP be lost at the cut over? > How can I flush it out? You may be able to set the retry timers low to cause some (premature) bounces when you cutover to MX to prevent loss of mail. > 2. VMS 7 automatically handles internet mail, so you don't need to add > SMTP%"". How will I change this so that it automatically goes through > MX%"" instead? The MX documentation explains how to make SMTP% activate MX's code, which is probably best -- that way people can continue to reply to messages weeks, months, or years after you switch to MX even though the messages have SMTP% in them. But to answer your question, the command is $ DEFINE/SYSTEM MAIL$INTERNET_TRANSPORT MX -Dan Wing dwing@cisco.com cisco Systems, Inc. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:37:44 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:37:35 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: DESROCHES@WOODS.UML.EDU Message-ID: <009AA90D.A93B2A22.3@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: Need more help with file server DESROCHES@woods.uml.edu writes: > >Hunter helped me a few weeks ago with setting up a file server. > >However, I am still unable to get anything back from the file server. Here >are the error messages I receive and the setup on my mailing list and >fileserver. The file ard.1996-10 does exist within the mx_mlist_dir: >directory as well as the file fileserv_help.txt yet I get the following >messages back: > Have you enabled MX MLF Debugging and checked the log files for more info? $ define/system/exec mx_mlf_debug true That'll create log files in MX_MLF_DIR: which should help you see what's going on. >File servers: > Name: ARD-Archives, Manager: landrigad@woods.uml.edu > Root: MX_MLIST_DIR: That's your problem; MX expects that to be a rooted directory like this: MX_ROOT:[MX.MLF.] From the manual on DEFINE FILE_SERVER: /ROOT=rootspec You must specify a location (either a rooted logical or a device plus root directory specification) to be used as the root for the file server files and directories. Examples of valid roots are FILESERV_ ROOT: (if it is defined as a rooted logical) and DISK:[FILE_SERVER.] (note the final dot before the bracket, indicating it is a root specification). Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software Corporation (TCPware) http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:38:46 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:38:34 CST From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: SEAGROVE@CNCACC.CN.EDU Message-ID: <009AA90D.CC635411.13@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: # entries in queue always = highest entry... more info "Mark Seagroves, Dir of Academic Computing" writes: > >The current entry when doing a "mcp queue stat" is 884 (out of 3501) >and the highest entry used is 931. So, they are not staying the same. >But, the current # of entries does NOT appear to be going down. When >I do a "mcp queue show/all" I see about 26 entries (some labeled finish >and some labeled inprog). Am I still missing something? I thought the ># of entries in the queue would go up AND down as they were processed. > What does SHOW QUEUE/ALL/BRIEF show you? Have you done a QUEUE PURGE/LOG by hand to see what happens? Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software Corporation (TCPware) http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:43:57 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:40:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven Bryan 644.3921" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: !!! - Need help with setup of 1st MX ListServer To: Bill Valentine-Cooper , MX-List , Gary Swart , Bill Ticknor Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT VC and esteemed MX elders, MX/MLF Gurus. Help! I am setting up our 1st MX based List Server. When I submit a subscribe request, my smtp queues go crazy but nothing happens. Looks like I've entered a loop. Any ideas on what is wrong? Any idea on where to find a cookbook to setup your 1st List Server? Thanks for the help! Here are the boring details (and sorry for so much but I wanted to be complete in case someone really had an idea). ...Steven Bryan the State of Ohio DEC Group, Ohio Data Network 614.644.3921 bryan@ohio.gov ***Startup by removing the old and redoing the ListServ setup *** MCP> remove list iac$listserv MCP> remove file mx-listserv-fs MCP> @mlf_config ! MX_DEVICE:[MX]MLF_CONFIG.MCP;3 ! Created: 28-OCT-1996 12:06:52.84 by MLF_CONFIG ! but updated 10/29/96 @ 2:51AM by Steven Bryan ! also 10/29/96 6:39AM by Steven Bryan ! ! ! MX_DEVICE:[MX]MLF_CONFIG.MCP;1 ! Created: 28-OCT-1996 07:10:52.32 by MLF_CONFIG ! DEFINE LIST "iac$listserv"- /NOCASE_SENSITIVE- /OWNER="iac_ls@soccer.odn.ohio.gov"- /ERRORS_TO="bryan@soccer.odn.ohio.gov"- /DESCRIPTION="This is the IAC's (Internet Advisory Committee) primary mailing list"- /ARCHIVE=DAS:[iac.ls]- /PROTECTION=(S:RWED,O:RWED,G:RWED,W:E) ! DEFINE FILE_SERVER "MX-LISTSERV-FS"- /MANAGER="bryan@soccer.odn.ohio.gov"- /ROOT=DSA1:[MX.MLF.FILE_SERVERS.MX-LISTSERV-FS.]- /MAILING_LIST="iac_ls"- /NODELAY_THRESHOLD- /NOUSER_LIMIT/NOHOST_LIMIT/NOSERVER_LIMIT ! MCP> save %MCP-I-WROTECFG, wrote configuration to file MX_DEVICE:[MX]MX_CONFIG.MXCFG;15 MCP> reset router,mlf MCP> exit *** Now starting it on our node SOCCER *** SOCCER::[MX]_$@sys$startup:mx_startup MCP> status PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A1A1A6 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A169A7 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A185AB SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A171A8 SOCCER MX SMTP Idle SMTP delivery agent 20A1ADA9 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A1ADA5 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A17DAA SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent MCP> queue show %MCP-I-QENTRIES, total matching entries: 0 MCP> sho file File servers: Name: MX-LISTSERV-FS, Manager: bryan@soccer.odn.ohio.gov Root: DSA1:[MX.MLF.FILE_SERVERS.MX-LISTSERV-FS.] Linked to mailing list: iac_ls No delay threshold. Daily limits: Server: 0 Host: 0 User: 0 MCP> sho list Mailing lists: Name: iac$listserv Owner: "iac_ls@SOCCER.ODN.OHIO.GOV" Reply-to: NOList, Sender Archive: DAS:[IAC.LS] Description: This is the IAC's (Internet Advisory Committee) primary mailing list Errors-to: bryan@soccer.odn.ohio.gov Strip header: NOReceived, NOOther Private list: No Case sensitive: No Digest support: No Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RWED,WORLD:E) *** This forwarded email is from VMSmail of the IAC_LS account:*** MAIL> sho forw Your mail is being forwarded to MX%"iac$listserv". *** the MX logicals as they are setup *** SOCCER::[MX]_$sho log mx* (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) "MX_ALIAS_HELPLIB" = "MX_DIR:MX_ALIAS_HELPLIB" "MX_DEVICE" = "DSA1:" "MX_DIR" = "MX_DEVICE:[MX]" "MX_DOC" = "MX_ROOT:[DOC]" "MX_EXAMPLES_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[EXAMPLES]" "MX_EXE" = "MX_ROOT:[EXE]" "MX_FLQ_DEBUG" = "TRUE" "MX_FLQ_DIR" = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[MX.QUEUE]" "MX_FLQ_NODE_NAME" = "ODNVMS" "MX_FLQ_SHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_FLQ_SHR" "MX_LOCAL_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[LOCAL]" "MX_LSV_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[LSV]" "MX_MAILSHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_MAILSHR" "MX_MAILSHRP" = "MX_EXE:MX_MAILSHRP" "MX_MCP_HELPLIB" = "MX_DIR:MX_MCP_HELPLIB" "MX_MLF_DEBUG" = "TRUE" "MX_MLF_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[MLF]" "MX_MLIST_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[MLF.MAILING_LISTS]" "MX_MSG" = "MX_EXE:MX_MSG" "MX_NODE_NAME" = "odnvms.ohio.gov" "MX_ROOT" = "MX_DEVICE:[MX.]" "MX_ROUTER_DEBUG" = "TRUE" "MX_ROUTER_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[ROUTER]" "MX_SHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_SHR" "MX_SITE_DOM_EXPANSION" = "MX_EXE:DOMAIN_EXPANSION" "MX_SMTP_DEBUG" = "TRUE" "MX_SMTP_DIR" = "MX_ROOT:[SMTP]" "MX_SMTP_SERVER_DEBUG" = "TRUE" "MX_SMTP_SERVER_THREADS" = "4" "MX_VMSMAIL_LOCALHOST" = "@odnvms.ohio.gov" "MX_VMSMAIL_SHOW_ADDR" = "TRUE" *** *** HERE'S WHERE IT GETS INTO A LOOP. I send the subscribe request and*** *** SOCCER::[MX]_$mail MAIL> s To: mx%"iac$listserv" MX rewrote iac$listserv as Subj: subscribe Enter your message below. Press CTRL/Z when complete, or CTRL/C to quit: subscribe Exit MAIL> MCP> status PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A1A1A6 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A169A7 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A185AB SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A171A8 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 10 SMTP delivery agent 20A1ADA9 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A1ADA5 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A17DAA SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent MCP> status PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A1A1A6 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A169A7 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A185AB SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A171A8 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 15 SMTP delivery agent 20A1ADA9 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A1ADA5 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A17DAA SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent MCP> queue show Entry# Status Size Source Agent Entry# Status Size ------ ------ ------- ------ ------- ------ ------ ------- 20 INPROG 2069 SMTP SMTP 21 INPROG 2069 23 INPROG 0 LOCAL <> %MCP-I-QENTRIES, total matching entries: 2 MCP> queue show Entry# Status Size Source Agent Entry# Status Size ------ ------ ------- ------ ------- ------ ------ ------- 23 INPROG 3190 LOCAL SMTP 24 INPROG 3190 25 INPROG 0 SMTP %MCP-I-QENTRIES, total matching entries: 2 MCP> queue show Entry# Status Size Source Agent Entry# Status Size ------ ------ ------- ------ ------- ------ ------ ------- 25 INPROG 3988 SMTP SMTP 26 INPROG 3988 27 INPROG 3988 SMTP %MCP-I-QENTRIES, total matching entries: 2 MCP> queue show Entry# Status Size Source Agent Entry# Status Size ------ ------ ------- ------ ------- ------ ------ ------- 27 INPROG 3988 SMTP SMTP 28 INPROG 3988 29 INPROG 0 SMTP %MCP-I-QENTRIES, total matching entries: 2 MCP> status PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A1A1A6 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A1ADA9 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Connected 1 Router agent 20A169A7 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A185AB SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A171A8 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 30 SMTP delivery agent 20A1ADA9 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Connected 1 SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A1ADA5 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A17DAA SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent MCP> shutdown %MCP-I-NODIFIED, process ROUTER has been notified on node SOCCER %MCP-I-NODIFIED, process LOCAL has been notified on node SOCCER %MCP-I-NODIFIED, process MLF has been notified on node SOCCER %MCP-I-NODIFIED, process SMTP has been notified on node SOCCER %MCP-I-NODIFIED, process SMTP_SERVER has been notified on node SOCCER %MCP-I-NODIFIED, process FLQ_MGR has been notified on node SOCCER %MCP-I-NODIFIED, process LSV has been notified on node SOCCER MCP> queue show Entry# Status Size Source Agent Entry# Status Size ------ ------ ------- ------ ------- ------ ------ ------- 38 INPROG 5922 SMTP SMTP 39 READY 5922 %MCP-I-QENTRIES, total matching entries: 1 MCP> queue cancel 38 MCP> queue show %MCP-I-QENTRIES, total matching entries: 0 *** This entry was found in the ??? .log file *** 29-OCT-1996 10:49:42.03 %PROCESS, Processing entry number 38 29-OCT-1996 10:49:42.19 %PROCESS, Status from READ_INFO was 00000001 29-OCT-1996 10:49:42.19 %PROCESS, Recipient #0: 29-OCT-1996 10:49:42.19 %REWRITE, No rewrite rules matched 29-OCT-1996 10:49:42.19 %FINDPATH, Site-spec expand on odnvms.ohio.gov err=00000000 29-OCT-1996 10:49:42.19 %FINDPATH, domain name ODNVMS.OHIO.GOV matched path pattern * 29-OCT-1996 10:49:42.19 %PROCESS, Rewrote as - next hop od^ 29-OCT-1996 10:49:42.40 %PROCESS, Adding to SMTP path: . 29-OCT-1996 10:49:42.69 %PROCESS, Path SMTP gets 1 rcpts, entry number 39 [EOB] *** This was found in the SMTP_SERVER_LOG.LOG file *** STM[1]: Send "220 soccer.odn.ohio.gov MX V4.2 VAX SMTP server ready at Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:40 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0" STM[1]: Receive "HELO soccer.odn.ohio.gov" STM[1]: Send "250 Hello, soccer.odn.ohio.gov" STM[1]: Receive "MAIL FROM:" STM[1]: Send "250 MAIL command accepted." STM[1]: Receive "RCPT TO:" STM[1]: Send "250 Recipient okay (at least in form)" STM[1]: Receive "DATA" STM[1]: Send "354 Start mail input; end with ." STM[1]: Receive "Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with" STM[1]: Receive " SMTP; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:38 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0" STM[1]: Receive "Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:35 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0" STM[1]: Receive "From: SMTP delivery agent " STM[1]: Receive "To: " STM[1]: Receive "Subject: SMTP delivery error" STM[1]: Receive "X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:"" STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "Note: this message was generated automatically." STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of" STM[1]: Receive "the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that" STM[1]: Receive "allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect" STM[1]: Receive "addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes." STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "--> Error description:" STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "Error-For: Postmaster@odnvms.ohio.gov" STM[1]: Receive "Error-Code: 2" STM[1]: Receive "Error-Text: %MX_SMTP-F-TRANSACTION_FAI, transaction failed" STM[1]: Receive " -(Via odnvms.ohio.gov)" STM[1]: Receive " -Transcript:" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 220 soccer.odn.ohio.gov MX V4.2 VAX SMTP server ready at Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:34 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.^ STM[1]: Receive " -Sent: HELO soccer.odn.ohio.gov" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 250 Hello, soccer.odn.ohio.gov" STM[1]: Receive " -Sent: MAIL FROM:" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 250 MAIL command accepted." STM[1]: Receive " -Sent: RCPT TO:" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 250 Recipient okay (at least in form)" STM[1]: Receive " -Sent: DATA" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 354 Start mail input; end with ." STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 554 Received too many times by this host." STM[1]: Receive " -Sent: QUIT" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 221 soccer.odn.ohio.gov Service closing transmission channel" STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "Error-End: 1 error detected" STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "------------------------------ Rejected message ------------------------------" STM[1]: Receive "Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:32 EST5E^ STM[1]: Receive "Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:30 EST5E^ STM[1]: Receive "Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:28 EST5E^ STM[1]: Receive "Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:26 EST5E^ STM[1]: Receive "Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:23 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0" STM[1]: Receive "From: SMTP delivery agent " STM[1]: Receive "To: " STM[1]: Receive "Subject: SMTP delivery error" STM[1]: Receive "X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:"" STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "Note: this message was generated automatically." STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of" STM[1]: Receive "the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that" STM[1]: Receive "allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect" STM[1]: Receive "addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes." STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "--> Error description:" STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "Error-For: bryan@odnvms.ohio.gov" STM[1]: Receive "Error-Code: 2" STM[1]: Receive "Error-Text: %MX_SMTP-F-TRANSACTION_FAI, transaction failed" STM[1]: Receive " -(Via odnvms.ohio.gov)" STM[1]: Receive " -Transcript:" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 220 soccer.odn.ohio.gov MX V4.2 VAX SMTP server ready at Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:22 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.^ STM[1]: Receive " -Sent: HELO soccer.odn.ohio.gov" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 250 Hello, soccer.odn.ohio.gov" STM[1]: Receive " -Sent: MAIL FROM:" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 250 MAIL command accepted." STM[1]: Receive " -Sent: RCPT TO:" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 250 Recipient okay (at least in form)" STM[1]: Receive " -Sent: DATA" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 354 Start mail input; end with ." STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 554 Received too many times by this host." STM[1]: Receive " -Sent: QUIT" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 221 soccer.odn.ohio.gov Service closing transmission channel" STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "Error-End: 1 error detected" STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "------------------------------ Rejected message ------------------------------" STM[1]: Receive "Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:21 EST5E^ STM[1]: Receive "Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:18 EST5E^ STM[1]: Receive "Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:16 EST5E^ STM[1]: Receive "Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:13 EST5E^ STM[1]: Receive "Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:11 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0" STM[1]: Receive "From: SMTP delivery agent " STM[1]: Receive "To: " STM[1]: Receive "Subject: SMTP delivery error" STM[1]: Receive "X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:"" STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "Note: this message was generated automatically." STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of" STM[1]: Receive "the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that" STM[1]: Receive "allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect" STM[1]: Receive "addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes." STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "--> Error description:" STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "Error-For: iac.listserv@odnvms.ohio.gov" STM[1]: Receive "Error-Code: 2" STM[1]: Receive "Error-Text: %MX_SMTP-F-TRANSACTION_FAI, transaction failed" STM[1]: Receive " -(Via odnvms.ohio.gov)" STM[1]: Receive " -Transcript:" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 220 soccer.odn.ohio.gov MX V4.2 VAX SMTP server ready at Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:09 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.^ STM[1]: Receive " -Sent: HELO soccer.odn.ohio.gov" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 250 Hello, soccer.odn.ohio.gov" STM[1]: Receive " -Sent: MAIL FROM:" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 250 MAIL command accepted." STM[1]: Receive " -Sent: RCPT TO:" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 250 Recipient okay (at least in form)" STM[1]: Receive " -Sent: DATA" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 354 Start mail input; end with ." STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 554 Received too many times by this host." STM[1]: Receive " -Sent: QUIT" STM[1]: Receive " -Rcvd: 221 soccer.odn.ohio.gov Service closing transmission channel" STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "Error-End: 1 error detected" STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "------------------------------ Rejected message ------------------------------" STM[1]: Receive "Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:08 EST5E^ STM[1]: Receive "Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:06 EST5E^ STM[1]: Receive "Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:02 EST5E^ STM[1]: Receive "Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:49:00 EST5E^ STM[1]: Receive "Received: by odnvms.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) id 1; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:48:58 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0" STM[1]: Receive "Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:48:58 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0" STM[1]: Receive "From: "VAXEN, PCS, AND THE NETWORKS IN BETWEEN - AHHH" " STM[1]: Receive "To: iac.listserv@odnvms.ohio.gov" STM[1]: Receive "CC: bryan@odnvms.ohio.gov" STM[1]: Receive "Message-ID: <009AA90F.40605660.1@odnvms.ohio.gov>" STM[1]: Receive "Subject: subscribe" STM[1]: Receive "" STM[1]: Receive "subscribe" STM[1]: Receive "." STM[1]: Send "250 Message received and queued." STM[1]: Receive "QUIT" STM[1]: Send "221 soccer.odn.ohio.gov Service closing transmission channel" STM[1]: Receive "QUIT" [EOB] ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:03:51 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu From: goathunter@madgoat.com (Hunter Goatley) Subject: Re: All stopped - where do I look now? Date: 29 Oct 1996 16:28:32 GMT Message-ID: <555bbg$8o6@news.wku.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <3271480D.750E@nsc.com>, Tim Hewitt writes: > >I have installed MX V4.2 and was playing with the list server. I was >able to start the software, create a list, subscribe to it, send it a >message that it sent to the list (with just me on it), and now I can't >get it to do anything! There are no errors in the log files, issueing a >QUEUE SHOW /ALL command shows me that messages were "FINISHED" but >nothing is ever sent out. No mail goes to the Postmaster, none goes to >the list owner (me) and I can find nothing to help me identify what's >happening. > Enable MX Router and/or MX MLF debugging by defining the following logicals: $ define/system/exec mx_router_debug true $ define/system/exec mx_mlf_debug true That'll create log files in MX_ROUTER_DIR: and MX_MLF_DIR:, respectively, that will show you what's going on. Simply deassign the logicals to stop debugging. Did you do an MCP RESET after you created the list and SAVEd the configuration? Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software (TCPware for OpenVMS) http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:03:57 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu From: goathunter@madgoat.com (Hunter Goatley) Subject: Re: Problems with UUCP Date: 29 Oct 1996 16:31:22 GMT Message-ID: <555bgq$8o6@news.wku.edu> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU In article <009AA5F6.C4B86E00.159@dragon.com>, "Charles T. Smith, Jr." writes: > >The user uploads mail via DECUS UUCP, which then goes into MX. When >the system here attempts to send it via UUCP, the smtp session shows >the sender as > > user@domain.UUCP > [...] > >Is there any way to set up MX to rewrite the domain name, or use the >domain from the "FROM:" header? > It's been a long time since I've used DECUS UUCP, but aren't there rewrite rules in that that you can apply to do this? In any case, MX can be used to rewrite headers using the ADDRESS_REWRITER stuff, but I'm not sure that would do anything in this case. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software (TCPware for OpenVMS) http://www.wku.edu/www/madgoat/hunter.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:38:58 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Message-ID: <2.2.16.19961029063812.0b675ac8@pc-185-60.osmre.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:38:12 +0600 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Rick Stacks Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: Problems with UUCP At 16:31 1996/10/29 +0000, Hunter Goatley wrote: > >In article <009AA5F6.C4B86E00.159@dragon.com>, "Charles T. Smith, Jr." writes: >> >>The user uploads mail via DECUS UUCP, which then goes into MX. When >>the system here attempts to send it via UUCP, the smtp session shows >>the sender as >> >> user@domain.UUCP >> >[...] >> >>Is there any way to set up MX to rewrite the domain name, or use the >>domain from the "FROM:" header? >> >It's been a long time since I've used DECUS UUCP, but aren't there rewrite >rules in that that you can apply to do this? > We used to use DECUS UUCP on our VAXen to send/retrieve mail offsite while using MX and yes there MX can be set to use UUCP's rewrite rules. The documentation for MX and UUCP explains how to do this. >In any case, MX can be used to rewrite headers using the ADDRESS_REWRITER >stuff, but I'm not sure that would do anything in this case. > I don't think it does... I had this same problem for a while and used the rewrite rules in UUCP to solve the problem. -- Rick Rick Stacks stacks@adpce.lrk.ar.us | They that give up essential liberty Ark Dept of Pollution Control | to obtain a little temporary safety 8001 National Dr. / POB 8913 | deserve neither liberty nor safety Little Rock, AR 72219 USA | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:42:24 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:42:12 -0600 Message-ID: <2.2.16.19961029124335.0dc755da@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Howard Meadows Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: !!! - Need help with setup of 1st MX ListServer At 11:40 AM 10/29/96 -0400, you wrote: >VC and esteemed MX elders, > >MX/MLF Gurus. Help! I am setting up our 1st MX based List Server. When I >submit a subscribe request, my smtp queues go crazy but nothing happens. Looks >like I've entered a loop. > >Any ideas on what is wrong? > >Any idea on where to find a cookbook to setup your 1st List Server? > >Thanks for the help! Here are the boring details (and sorry for so much but I >wanted to be complete in case someone really had an idea). > > ...Steven Bryan > the State of Ohio > DEC Group, Ohio Data Network > 614.644.3921 > bryan@ohio.gov > > My guess is that you're having the looping problem because of the forwarding address. You're sending the subscription request to the wrong address (the list itself) which generates an error message back to you which is forwarded to the list (because of the forwarding address) which generates another error message, etc. Secondly, subscription requests should not be sent to the list itself, but rather the list-request address. In this case, the address for subscriptions should be: iac$listserv-request@soccer.odn.ohio.gov I would say do away with the forwarding address, and send the subscription request to the above address. > > >*** This forwarded email is from VMSmail of the IAC_LS account:*** >MAIL> sho forw >Your mail is being forwarded to MX%"iac$listserv". > > >SOCCER::[MX]_$mail > >MAIL> s >To: mx%"iac$listserv" > MX rewrote iac$listserv as >Subj: subscribe >Enter your message below. Press CTRL/Z when complete, or CTRL/C to quit: >subscribe Exit >MAIL> > *************************************************************************** * Howard Meadows Sr. Systems Programmer Weeg Computing Center * * University Of Iowa Iowa City, Iowa 52242 Phone: 319-335-5519 * * email: howard-meadows@uiowa.edu FAX : 319-335-5505 * *************************************************************************** ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:22:33 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:21:37 EST From: "Charles T. Smith, Jr." Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009AA94E.7CA9FF60.5@dragon.com> Subject: Re: Problems with UUCP > It's been a long time since I've used DECUS UUCP, but aren't there rewrite > rules in that that you can apply to do this? Not in this case. The item comes in from a remote system and is then passed to mx_rmail, which seems to be constructing the MAIL FROM: address used in the SMTP session from the uucp FROM header (instead of the FROM: which uses a proper domain address. > In any case, MX can be used to rewrite headers using the ADDRESS_REWRITER > stuff, but I'm not sure that would do anything in this case. Is there any way to force MX_RMAIL to use the FROM: header instead of the UUCP header? Eg, instead of this: From xxx Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:09:36 EDT remote from yyyyy Use this: From: ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:29:35 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:59:51 MST From: Jim Savoy Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@MADGOAT.COM Message-ID: <009AAA2D.C1C5965B.77@hg.uleth.ca> Subject: list moderator query Hi everyone, I have a question about the file protection schemes on mailing lists. Is it possible to make the owner of the list a "moderator"? I set up a list and the owner asked that he be able to screen incoming mail. If it was suitable, he would then post it to the list for all subscribers to see. At first I thought the solution would be to set the protection like so: DEFINE LIST "example-l"- /OWNER="doe@HG.ULETH.CA"- /ERRORS_TO="doe@HG.ULETH.CA"- /NOCASE_SENSITIVE - /PROTECTION=(S:RWED,O:RWED,G:R,W) In this case, subscribers would have just 'R" (REVIEW) access, but any attempt to post would be rejected. I was hoping the rejected post would go to the owner and he could then take care of it. But this type of access yields the following error when a subscriber (in this case, me) attempts to post: From: Mailing list & file server To: Subject: Mailing list or file server error Note: this message was generated automatically. The following error(s) occurred during local delivery of your message. Error in delivery to mailing list example-l: access denied; send subscription requests to example-l-Request@hg.uleth.ca review example-l yields: savoy@HG.ULETH.CA (NOCASE) So, savoy is a valid subscriber. List owner doe gets no mail at all. Bummer. I realize the above is probably "expected behaviour". I was just wondering if there is a way to comply with the list-owner's wishes that I am unaware of. For now I have set the protection as such: /PROTECTION=(S:RWED,O:RWED,G:RW,W) But that enables users to post freely. Thanks for any advice! - jim savoy - - university of lethbridge - - savoy@hg.uleth.ca - ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:36:17 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:34:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven Bryan 644.3921" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: ??? - MX looping continues, HELP me Obi-Wan! You're my only hope... To: MX-List CC: Bill Ticknor , Gary Swart , Brant Thomas Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Dear MX Elders: Thanks to all for the good suggestions from yesterday on my looping problem! However, after removing the forwarding from VMSmail of the account associated with my ListServ (IAC_LS), I find that I am still looping... I have tried to revert to basics thusly: - recreated my list as short, simple list named IAC - made it /nocase_sensitive - test just the most basic functionality: I am testing just from node SOCCER (the installation node) to node SOCCER with a "subscribe" request being sent from my account BRYAN to the list via VMSmail to address MX%"IAC-REQUEST" When I do this I find I get lots of activity in the MX subsystem, primarily jobs cycling thru the SMTP delivery and server processes and the router process. I never (at least thru the 1st 20 cycles or so) get into the MLF area. From what I can see it seems to be coming in thru the router, hitting an error, then trying to go back out and deliver that error message to the "error to" address via SMTP. The error messages rarely get to the error to address. I have gotten one or two but it doesn't get thru all the time. The log files are not very helpful. I did put a "bookmark" search string to make it easy to find the one real MX error - look for a string "zzz" of 3 z's. I have included select log file info at the bottom of my info list here which is ordered as follows: block 1 - My mlf_config.mcp setup, 2 - Output from mcp show all, 3 - MCP status loop program and output of 1st 20 iterations (.5sec interval), 4 - Error log info I begin to suspect the problem is not just with the MX stuff but maybe with the interaction between that and UCX we are running on SOCCER! I'm going to pursue this angle now. Thanks for all or any help! Steven Bryan Network Software Manager the State of Ohio Dept. of Administrative Services Ohio Data Network 1320 Arthur E. Adams Drive Columbus, Ohio 43221 614.644.3921 614.752.6108 (Fax) bryan@ohio.gov OVERVIEW of my setup ==================== - Running on node SOCCER (only here, 1st of 2 node cluster) - UCX 4.1 is also installed on SOCCER (rather than NETLIB) - Trying to get ListServ IAC working - So far it just loops with occasional errors ========================================================================= *** Here's my MLF_CONFIG.MCP file *** SOCCER::[MX]_$t mlf_config.mcp ! MX_DEVICE:[MX]MLF_CONFIG.MCP;3 ! Created: 28-OCT-1996 12:06:52.84 by MLF_CONFIG ! but updated 10/29/96 @ 2:51AM by Steven Bryan ! also 10/29/96 6:39AM by Steven Bryan ! again 10/30/96 22:49 by Steven Bryan ! ! MX_DEVICE:[MX]MLF_CONFIG.MCP;1 ! Created: 28-OCT-1996 07:10:52.32 by MLF_CONFIG ! ! Get rid of our old values REMOVE LIST IAC REMOVE FILE MX-LISTSERV-FS ! ! Define the new stuff DEFINE LIST "iac"- /NOCASE_SENSITIVE- /OWNER="iac_ls@soccer.odn.ohio.gov"- /ERRORS_TO="bryan@soccer.odn.ohio.gov"- /DESCRIPTION="This is the IAC's (Internet Advisory Committee) primary mailing list"- /ARCHIVE=DAS:[iac.ls]- /PROTECTION=(S:RWED,O:RWED,G:RWED,W:E) ! DEFINE FILE_SERVER "MX-LISTSERV-FS"- /MANAGER="bryan@soccer.odn.ohio.gov"- /ROOT=DSA1:[MX.MLF.FILE_SERVERS.MX-LISTSERV-FS.]- /MAILING_LIST="iac_ls"- /NODELAY_THRESHOLD- /NOUSER_LIMIT/NOHOST_LIMIT/NOSERVER_LIMIT ! ! Save the config SAVE ! Now reset all subsystems RESET/CLUSTER ROUTER,MLF SOCCER::[MX]_$ ========================================================================= *** Here's my MCP> SHOW ALL output *** MCP> SHO ALL Configuration file: MX_DEVICE:[MX]MX_CONFIG.MXCFG;24 MX version id is: MX V4.2 VAX Mailing lists: Name: iac Owner: "iac_ls@SOCCER.ODN.OHIO.GOV" Reply-to: NOList, Sender Archive: DAS:[IAC.LS] Description: This is the IAC's (Internet Advisory Committee) primary mailing l ist Errors-to: bryan@soccer.odn.ohio.gov Strip header: NOReceived, NOOther Private list: No Case sensitive: No Digest support: No Protection: (SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RWED,WORLD:E) Domain-to-path mappings: Domain="SOCCER.ODN.OHIO.GOV", Path=Local Domain="SOCCER.OHIO.GOV", Path=Local Domain="SOCCER", Path=Local Domain="*.BITNET", Path=SMTP, Route="cunyvm.cuny.edu" Domain="*.UUCP", Path=SMTP, Route="uunet.uu.net" Domain="*", Path=SMTP Aliases: LocalName="Postmaster", Address="BRYAN@SOCCER.OHIO.GOV" LocalName="POSTMAST", Address="BRYAN@SOCCER.OHIO.GOV" File servers: Name: MX-LISTSERV-FS, Manager: bryan@soccer.odn.ohio.gov Root: DSA1:[MX.MLF.FILE_SERVERS.MX-LISTSERV-FS.] Linked to mailing list: iac_ls No delay threshold. Daily limits: Server: 0 Host: 0 User: 0 SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Number of DNS failure retries: 12 Accounting: disabled Default router: (none) LOCAL agent settings: DECnet delivery retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. Multiple VMS Mail From: addresses allowed. Local delivery errors are not CC'ed to local Postmaster. Delivery to MultiNet MM disallowed. Top headers: FROM,SENDER,TO,RESENT_TO,CC,RESENT_CC,BCC,RESENT_BCC,MESSAGE_ID, RESENT_MESSAGE_ID,IN_REPLY_TO,REFERENCES,KEYWORDS,SUBJECT, ENCRYPTED,DATE,REPLY_TO,RECEIVED,RESENT_REPLY_TO,RESENT_FROM, RESENT_SENDER,RESENT_DATE,RETURN_PATH,OTHER Bottom headers: (none) ROUTER agent settings: Automatic percent-hack handling: enabled Sender header for outgoing VMS Mail messages: included if necessary JNET agent settings: Automatic percent-hack handling: enabled BSMTP replies: disabled Accounting: disabled Lenient about gatewaying mail: no No mailer username set. DECnet_SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. SITE agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 X25_SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. MCP> ========================================================================= *** Here's the list of my little mcp status looper and the output from *** 1st 20 or so iterations at 1/2 second intervals. It never makes the MLF*** process! *** *** *** *** $loop: $! $on control_y then goto exit $wait 0:0:0.5 $mcp status $goto loop $exit: $! $exit SOCCER::[MX]_$@loop -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Idle SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Processing # 1 Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Idle SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Processing # 1 Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Idle SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager New ALL-IN-1 mail from BRYAN Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 2 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Connected 1 SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Processing # 3 Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 2 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 4 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 4 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Connected 1 SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Processing # 5 Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Idle SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 6 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Connected 1 SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 6 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Connected 1 SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Processing # 7 Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Idle SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 8 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Connected 1 SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 8 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Connected 1 SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Processing # 9 Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Idle SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 10 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Connected 1 SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router FLQ Cleanup Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 10 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Connected 1 SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 10 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Req update 1 Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 13 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 13 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Connected 1 SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Processing # 14 Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 13 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 15 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 15 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Connected 1 SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Processing # 16 Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 15 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 17 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Connected 1 SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Processing # 18 Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 17 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router FLQ Cleanup Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 19 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 19 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 19 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Connected 1 SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Processing # 20 Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 19 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 21 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router Idle Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 21 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Connected 1 SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent PID Node Process name Status Agent type -------- ------ --------------- ------------------ ------------ 20A13AB5 SOCCER MX Router FLQ Cleanup Router agent 20A142B6 SOCCER MX Local Idle Local delivery agent 20A1BEBA SOCCER MX MLF Idle Mailing list/file server 20A11EB7 SOCCER MX SMTP Processing # 21 SMTP delivery agent 20A12EB8 SOCCER MX SMTP Server Idle SMTP server (over TCP/IP) 20A15EB4 SOCCER MX FLQ Manager Idle MX FLQ manager 20A1C2B9 SOCCER MX LSV Intfc Idle Listserv interface agent Interrupt SOCCER::[MX]_$mcp MCP> shutdown %MCP-I-NODIFIED, process ROUTER has been notified on node SOCCER %MCP-I-NODIFIED, process LOCAL has been notified on node SOCCER %MCP-I-NODIFIED, process MLF has been notified on node SOCCER %MCP-I-NODIFIED, process SMTP has been notified on node SOCCER %MCP-I-NODIFIED, process SMTP_SERVER has been notified on node SOCCER %MCP-I-NODIFIED, process FLQ_MGR has been notified on node SOCCER %MCP-I-NODIFIED, process LSV has been notified on node SOCCER MCP> queue show Entry# Status Size Source Agent Entry# Status Size ------ ------ ------- ------ ------- ------ ------ ------- 25 INPROG 3967 SMTP SMTP 26 READY 3967 %MCP-I-QENTRIES, total matching entries: 1 MCP> queue cancel 25 MCP> queue show %MCP-I-QENTRIES, total matching entries: 0 MCP> exit ========================================================================= *** Output in log file: [MX.LOCAL]mx_local_log.log *** 30-OCT-1996 22:38:21.95 Processing queue entry number 4 30-OCT-1996 22:38:22.10 Checking local name: BRYAN 30-OCT-1996 22:38:22.12 LOCAL_USER: Non-MX fwdg address MRGATE::A1::BRYAN; treat as local. 30-OCT-1996 22:38:22.12 This is a regular delivery. 30-OCT-1996 22:38:22.20 DELIVER: mime_headers = 0 30-OCT-1996 22:38:22.21 DELIVER: fdlstr = "" 30-OCT-1996 22:38:22.21 DELIVER: Using MX%"Postmaster@odnvms.ohio.gov" as VMS MAIL From address. 30-OCT-1996 22:38:22.21 DELIVER: Using MX%"bryan@odnvms.ohio.gov" as VMS MAIL To address. 30-OCT-1996 22:38:22.21 DELIVER: Using as VMS MAIL CC address. 30-OCT-1996 22:38:22.21 DELIVER: Using "LOCAL delivery error" as subject. 30-OCT-1996 22:38:22.31 DELIVER: Delivering to MRGATE::A1::BRYAN 30-OCT-1996 22:38:24.26 DELIVER: Status=00000001 from MAIL$ routines 30-OCT-1996 22:38:24.34 All done with this entry. ========================================================================= *** Output in log file: [MX.ROUTER]mx_router_log.log *** 31-OCT-1996 07:21:08.49 %PROCESS, Processing entry number 25 31-OCT-1996 07:21:08.59 %PROCESS, Status from READ_INFO was 00000001 31-OCT-1996 07:21:08.59 %PROCESS, Recipient #0: 31-OCT-1996 07:21:08.59 %REWRITE, No rewrite rules matched 31-OCT-1996 07:21:08.59 %FINDPATH, Site-spec expand on odnvms.ohio.gov err=00000000 31-OCT-1996 07:21:08.59 %FINDPATH, domain name ODNVMS.OHIO.GOV matched path pattern * 31-OCT-1996 07:21:08.59 %PROCESS, Rewrote as - next hop odnvms.ohio.gov, path 2 31-OCT-1996 07:21:08.77 %PROCESS, Adding to SMTP path: . 31-OCT-1996 07:21:09.09 %PROCESS, Path SMTP gets 1 rcpts, entry number 26 ========================================================================= *** Output in log file: [MX.SMTP]_$MX_SMTP_LOG.LOG *** This log file was very large so I cut the 1st few entries out and the last few. The in-between just repeats the same info... *** *** *** *** 31-OCT-1996 06:50:43.57 Processing queue entry number 111 on node SOCCER 31-OCT-1996 06:50:43.91 Recipient: , route=odnvms.ohio.gov 31-OCT-1996 06:50:43.92 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name odnvms.ohio.gov 31-OCT-1996 06:50:43.94 SMTP_SEND: DNS_MXLOOK status is 00000870 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.08 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with odnvms.ohio.gov [156.63.64.20] 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.08 SMTP_SEND: Connected 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.36 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 220 soccer.odn.ohio.gov MX V4.2 VAX SMTP server ready at Thu, 31 Oct 1996 06:50:44 EST5E^ 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.44 SMTP_SEND: Sent: HELO soccer.odn.ohio.gov 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.49 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 Hello, soccer.odn.ohio.gov 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.49 SMTP_SEND: Sent: MAIL FROM: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.72 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 MAIL command accepted. 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.72 SMTP_SEND: Sent: RCPT TO: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.72 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 Recipient okay (at least in form) 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.73 SMTP_SEND: Sent: DATA 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.97 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 354 Start mail input; end with . 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.97 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.97 SMTP_SEND: Sent: SMTP; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 06:50:37 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.97 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.97 SMTP_SEND: Sent: SMTP; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 06:50:29 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.97 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.97 SMTP_SEND: Sent: SMTP; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 06:50:22 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.97 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 06:50:14 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: From: SMTP delivery agent 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: To: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Subject: SMTP delivery error 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:" 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Note: this message was generated automatically. 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: --> Error description: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Error-For: Postmaster@odnvms.ohio.gov 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Error-Code: 2 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Error-Text: zzz%MX_SMTP-F-TRANSACTION_FAI, transaction failed 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -(Via odnvms.ohio.gov) 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.98 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Transcript: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Rcvd: 220 soccer.odn.ohio.gov MX V4.2 VAX SMTP server ready at Thu, 31 Oct 1996 06:^ 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Sent: HELO soccer.odn.ohio.gov 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Rcvd: 250 Hello, soccer.odn.ohio.gov 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Sent: MAIL FROM: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Rcvd: 250 MAIL command accepted. 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Sent: RCPT TO: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Rcvd: 250 Recipient okay (at least in form) 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Sent: DATA 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Rcvd: 354 Start mail input; end with . 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Rcvd: 554 Received too many times by this host. 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Sent: QUIT 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Rcvd: 221 soccer.odn.ohio.gov Service closing transmission channel 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Error-End: 1 error detected 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: ------------------------------Rejected message------------------------------ 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, ^ 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, ^ 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, ^ 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, ^ 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 06:49:34 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: From: SMTP delivery agent 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: To: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Subject: SMTP delivery error 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:" 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Note: this message was generated automatically. 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that 31-OCT-1996 06:50:44.99 SMTP_SEND: Sent: allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: --> Error description: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Error-For: Postmaster@odnvms.ohio.gov 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Error-Code: 2 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Error-Text: %MX_SMTP-F-TRANSACTION_FAI, transaction failed 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -(Via odnvms.ohio.gov) 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Transcript: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Rcvd: 220 soccer.odn.ohio.gov MX V4.2 VAX SMTP server ready at Thu, 31 Oct 1996 06:^ 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Sent: HELO soccer.odn.ohio.gov 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Rcvd: 250 Hello, soccer.odn.ohio.gov 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Sent: MAIL FROM: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Rcvd: 250 MAIL command accepted. 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Sent: RCPT TO: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Rcvd: 250 Recipient okay (at least in form) 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Sent: DATA 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Rcvd: 354 Start mail input; end with . 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Rcvd: 554 Received too many times by this host. 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Sent: QUIT 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: -Rcvd: 221 soccer.odn.ohio.gov Service closing transmission channel 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Error-End: 1 error detected 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: ------------------------------Rejected message------------------------------ 31-OCT-1996 06:50:45.02 SMTP_SEND: Sent: . . . 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.26 SMTP_SEND: Sent: ------------------------------Rejected message------------------------------ 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.26 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, ^ 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.26 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, ^ 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.26 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, ^ 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.27 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: from soccer.odn.ohio.gov by soccer.odn.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, ^ 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.27 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Received: by odnvms.ohio.gov (MX V4.2 VAX) id 1; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 23:05:00 EST5EDT4,M4.1^ 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.27 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 23:04:59 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.27 SMTP_SEND: Sent: From: "VAXEN, PCS, AND THE NETWORKS IN BETWEEN - AHHH" 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.27 SMTP_SEND: Sent: To: iac-request@odnvms.ohio.gov 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.27 SMTP_SEND: Sent: CC: bryan@odnvms.ohio.gov 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.27 SMTP_SEND: Sent: Message-ID: <009AAA3F.3D08F5E0.1@odnvms.ohio.gov> 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.27 SMTP_SEND: Sent: 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.27 SMTP_SEND: Sent: subscribe 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.31 SMTP_SEND: Sent: . 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.32 SMTP_SEND: will wait 00:10:30.00 for reply. 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.45 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 Message received and queued. 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.45 SMTP_SEND: Sent: QUIT 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.46 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 221 soccer.odn.ohio.gov Service closing transmission channel 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.60 Recipient status=00000001 for 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.81 Entry now completely processed, no retries needed. 31-OCT-1996 06:50:47.96 *** End of processing pass *** ========================================================================= ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:11:05 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:10:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven Bryan 644.3921" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: re: ??? - MX looping continues, HELP me Obi-Wan! You're my only hope... To: MX-List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Dear MX Elders: Ooops. Should have included this in my last email. This is the only error mail I have gotten out of the MX system since I started my ListServ project. My account "bryan@odnvms.ohio.gov" is the error to account for the list. What the error means I'm not sure. Is it saying it tried to send mail to the local user "iac$listserv-request" and found that there is no VMS user or mail record by that name? Do I have to create VMS/mail accounts to reflect the names of my lists? How do I intrepret this "error-code: 3" error? Thanks again for all the input! Steven Bryan Network Software Manager the State of Ohio Dept. of Administrative Services Ohio Data Network 1320 Arthur E. Adams Drive Columbus, Ohio 43221 614.644.3921 614.752.6108 (Fax) bryan@ohio.gov ========================================================================= Return-Path: <> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:38:20 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 From: Local delivery agent To: Subject: LOCAL delivery error X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:" Note: this message was generated automatically. An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. --> Error description: Error-For: iac$listserv-request@odnvms.ohio.gov Error-Code: 3 Error-Text: No such local user Error-End: 1 error detected ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:39:42 CST Sender: owner-mx-list@wku.edu Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:08:48 MST From: cdooling@west.cscwc.pima.edu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@madgoat.com Message-ID: <009AAA9B.F89973A0.10@west.cscwc.pima.edu> Subject: Pine and mx DATE SENT: 31-OCT-1996 10:05:03 We're using MX 4.2 on a VMS 5.5-2 system running VMS mail and Pine. When the Pine users REply to a message the mx% is attached to the username, then there's errors on REply unless the user edits out the mx%. Some find that rather troublesome. Is there a way to remove the mx% that won't affect the VMS Mail users? Thanks for any help. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cindy Dooling WEST::CDOOLING PimaCommunityCollege cdooling@west.pima.edu 2202 W. Anklam voice: 520 884-6970 Tucson, Arizona 85709-0010 fax: 520 884-6033 http://west.pima.edu/~cdooling Nothing but Net *** No FEAR, just a healthy respect *** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------