Archive-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:21:22 -0800 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:21:16 -0800 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009CE91A.95E6AAFB.1@MadGoat.Com> Subject: RE: help on mx 5.1 - max msg size >Hi. After today's fiasco I've installed 5.1. One thing I thouht would >be fixed with this release would be the ability to receive and view >emails (via pop/eudora) that have line lengths greater than 255 bytes. > >I just received an email that had the lines cut off. We did increase the maximum length, which immediately caused problems at sites forwarding messages through DECnet; the Mail-11 protocol limits line lengths to 255, even if local VMS MAIL does not. So the 255-character limit was put back in place, at least for now. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:58:50 -0800 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981101125912.00bcb9f0@dirmarketing.com> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 12:59:12 -0800 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Stephen Garrett Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: help on mx 5.1 - max msg size In-Reply-To: <009CE91A.95E6AAFB.1@MadGoat.Com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This is a real problem for me with sites that are using Novell Groupwise. These people insist on typiong their msgs in one long line because the NoVell s/w auto wraps on THEIR screen, but insists on sending it out as one long line excepting for paragraph breaks, where they DO type a "CR". I also get this behaviour from many commercial sites as well. (Biz week, homeautomation, Allaire...) How about adding a logical that will allow for the prior operation so that those of "Not Using Decnet Forwarding" can receive these emails? Pretty Please? If this does not happen then I will have to move onto a different mail platform, probably +gasp+ NT something or other. And you will not get a (single node) license fee. I had bamked on this upgrading fixing the line length problem. It was just happenstance that the mail slamming happened which forced me to get off of my duff. Thanks, Steve At 12:21 PM 11/1/98 -0800, you wrote: >>Hi. After today's fiasco I've installed 5.1. One thing I thouht would >>be fixed with this release would be the ability to receive and view >>emails (via pop/eudora) that have line lengths greater than 255 bytes. >> >>I just received an email that had the lines cut off. > >We did increase the maximum length, which immediately caused problems at >sites forwarding messages through DECnet; the Mail-11 protocol limits line >lengths to 255, even if local VMS MAIL does not. So the 255-character >limit was put back in place, at least for now. > >-Matt > >-- >Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA >madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com > -- Stephen Garrett GPS steve@gpsnet.com (360) 896-2714 ICQ# 10776767 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:05:30 -0800 From: Darko Bulat Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: help on mx 5.1 - max msg size Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 10:48:25 +0100 Message-ID: <363D7FE9.85A@K2.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU Matt Madison wrote: > > >Hi. After today's fiasco I've installed 5.1. One thing I thouht would > >be fixed with this release would be the ability to receive and view > >emails (via pop/eudora) that have line lengths greater than 255 bytes. > > > >I just received an email that had the lines cut off. > > We did increase the maximum length, which immediately caused problems at > sites forwarding messages through DECnet; the Mail-11 protocol limits line > lengths to 255, even if local VMS MAIL does not. So the 255-character > limit was put back in place, at least for now. Is it possible to have that restriction removed/set at will in some future release (LOGICAL NAME)? My customers are demanding very long lines. After all, is there any RFC that addresses that issue of "line length" within a message? Until long lines are reenabled I'd have to stick with the 5.0, even though I was looking forward for the 5.1 because of the ETRN feature, which is also something very important to us (for now I'm using separate UNIX/sendmail based mail server for that ETRN purpose, but would very like to finally standardise on just one platform). Regards! Darko Bulat, K2.net > -Matt > > -- > Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA > madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 03:33:43 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:33:52 +0200 From: "Ruth Thieme, GSI Darmstadt,Tel. 06159 712556" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: thieme@axp602.gsi.de Message-ID: <009CE9E5.832350E9.41@axp602.gsi.de> Subject: eof detected Hi, we are using MX 5.0 successfully since it was delivered. Now we have a problem: Using MAIL NL: mx%"d.d@h.j.k" we get %RMS-E-EOF, end of file detected. This means, we are unable to send mails. SMTP-Logging did not give me an idea. Can you help me? Thanks, Ruth ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ruth Thieme Gesellschaft fuer Schwerionenforschung (GSI) - DV&EE - Planckstrasse 1 62491 Darmstadt Phone: 06159 71-2556 FAX: 2986 E-mail: R.Thieme@gsi.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:47:21 -0800 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 13:46:42 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 From: feck@fre.fsu.umd.edu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009CE9EF.B0417E00.219@fre.fsu.umd.edu> Subject: Sender address on Digest Date sent: 2-NOV-1998 13:44:41 The sender/return address on all digest listservers is my address instead of the address of the person who sent the message. The only reason that I can figure that the sender address of the digest listserver is my address is because I managed the MX and my account is the one that submits the batch job to process the digest mail. How do I correct this problem so the sender address is the listserver owner of the digest? Thanks for any help, Teresa Feck System Manager _______________________________ Teresa J. Feck Internet: feck@frostburg.edu Academic Computing Phonemail: (301) 687-7090 Frostburg State University Frostburg, Maryland 21532 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:08:53 -0800 Message-ID: <043d01be06a4$b7efc5a0$d6001c7e@gr-355538.si.com> From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Subject: Re: help on mx 5.1 - max msg size Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:06:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >How about adding a logical that will allow for the prior operation >so that those of "Not Using Decnet Forwarding" can receive these >emails? Yes, please! I don't care about DECnet forwarding. Let DECnet complain instead of my people! Brian Tillman Internet: tillman_brian at si.com Smiths Industries, Inc. tillman at swdev.si.com 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS Addresses modified to prevent Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991 SPAM. Replace "at" with "@" This opinion doesn't represent that of my company ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 05:04:43 -0800 Message-ID: <034201be072a$6413e980$083693d0@hmiller> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: "Henry W. Miller" To: , Subject: Re: help on mx 5.1 - max msg size Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:54:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve, -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Garrett To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Date: Sunday, November 01, 1998 13:00 PM Subject: RE: help on mx 5.1 - max msg size > >This is a real problem for me with sites that are using Novell Groupwise. >These people insist on typiong their msgs in one long line because the >NoVell s/w auto wraps on THEIR screen, but insists on sending it out >as one long line excepting for paragraph breaks, where they DO type a >"CR". I also get this behaviour from many commercial sites as well. >(Biz week, homeautomation, Allaire...) > >How about adding a logical that will allow for the prior operation >so that those of "Not Using Decnet Forwarding" can receive these >emails? Pretty Please? If this does not happen then I will have to >move onto a different mail platform, probably +gasp+ NT something or >other. And you will not get a (single node) license fee. > >I had bamked on this upgrading fixing the line length problem. It was >just happenstance that the mail slamming happened which forced me to >get off of my duff. > >Thanks, > >Steve > It's not just a Groupwise issue - it happens with many mail clients, some of which you have pointed out. My best solution, for lack of a better one, is yell at (um, I mean politely ask...) the users to set a decent line wrap, either automatically or manually. Good luck,. -HWM >At 12:21 PM 11/1/98 -0800, you wrote: >>>Hi. After today's fiasco I've installed 5.1. One thing I thouht would >>>be fixed with this release would be the ability to receive and view >>>emails (via pop/eudora) that have line lengths greater than 255 bytes. >>> >>>I just received an email that had the lines cut off. >> >>We did increase the maximum length, which immediately caused problems at >>sites forwarding messages through DECnet; the Mail-11 protocol limits line >>lengths to 255, even if local VMS MAIL does not. So the 255-character >>limit was put back in place, at least for now. >> >>-Matt >> >>-- >>Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA >>madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com >> > >-- >Stephen Garrett >GPS >steve@gpsnet.com (360) 896-2714 >ICQ# 10776767 > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:51:19 -0800 Sender: meregalli@cesi.it Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:50:28 +0100 From: Alberto Meregalli (DIF) Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: meregalli@cesi.it Message-ID: <009CEAD2.862FC886.23@cesi.it> Subject: Re: help on mx 5.1 - max msg size > >>How about adding a logical that will allow for the prior operation >>so that those of "Not Using Decnet Forwarding" can receive these >>emails? > >Yes, please! I don't care about DECnet forwarding. Let DECnet complain >instead of my people! > > Brian Tillman Internet: tillman_brian at si.com > Smiths Industries, Inc. tillman at swdev.si.com > 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS Addresses modified to prevent > Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991 SPAM. Replace "at" with "@" > This opinion doesn't represent that of my company > I would add my support to that request. People have begun complaining here, too. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alberto Meregalli, DIF tel. +39 2 2125 249 CESI, Centro Elettrotecnico Sperimentale Italiano fax +39 2 2125 520 Via Rubattino, 54 - I 20134 Milano E-mail: meregalli@cesi.it ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:00:11 -0800 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:00:05 -0800 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009CEA88.6E3BFC99.2@MadGoat.Com> Subject: Re: help on mx 5.1 - max msg size >How about adding a logical that will allow for the prior operation >so that those of "Not Using Decnet Forwarding" can receive these >emails? I will see what I can do about this. I know how annoying this problem is, since I have encountered it myself. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:09:35 -0800 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981103080951.0189f4f4@dirmarketing.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 08:09:51 -0800 To: "Henry W. Miller" , From: Stephen Garrett Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: help on mx 5.1 - max msg size In-Reply-To: <034201be072a$6413e980$083693d0@hmiller> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:54 AM 11/3/98 -0800, Henry W. Miller wrote: [snip] > > It's not just a Groupwise issue - it happens with many mail clients, >some of which you have pointed out. > > My best solution, for lack of a better one, is yell at (um, I mean >politely ask...) the users to set a decent line wrap, either >automatically or manually. Yes, I have tried that for the last year. Literally. The problem is really an issue when an entire corporation uses groupwise, and they have no problem sending mail to themselves. Just to me. Politely asking has not gotten very far. Please note that _very_ email that I receive that has lines cut off results in a return email politely asking that they resend. To this date no one has taken an action. "Our email works fine, it must be a problem with YOUR system". Steve > > Good luck,. > >-HWM > >>At 12:21 PM 11/1/98 -0800, you wrote: >>>>Hi. After today's fiasco I've installed 5.1. One thing I thouht would >>>>be fixed with this release would be the ability to receive and view >>>>emails (via pop/eudora) that have line lengths greater than 255 >bytes. >>>> >>>>I just received an email that had the lines cut off. >>> >>>We did increase the maximum length, which immediately caused problems >at >>>sites forwarding messages through DECnet; the Mail-11 protocol limits >line >>>lengths to 255, even if local VMS MAIL does not. So the 255-character >>>limit was put back in place, at least for now. >>> >>>-Matt >>> >>>-- >>>Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA >95061 USA >>>madison@madgoat.com >http://www.madgoat.com >>> >> >>-- >>Stephen Garrett >>GPS >>steve@gpsnet.com (360) 896-2714 >>ICQ# 10776767 >> > > -- Stephen Garrett GPS steve@gpsnet.com (360) 896-2714 ICQ# 10776767 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:19:42 -0800 Message-ID: <363F3B28.BB94A215@nlu.edu> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:19:36 -0600 From: "Chance W. Eppinette" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mx-list@madgoat.com Subject: Question about approvals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I am running MX V4.2 AXP on OVMS 6.1 Does this version have an approval command for the list admin for subscribing emails to a private list? For example, with a remote user trying to subscribe himself to a private list, the MXserver sends this to the list owner in email format: User: Chance Eppinette , command: SUBSCRIBE, list: CAPS, parameters: Could this be forwarded back to the MXserver as an approval command such as: APPROVE User: Chance Eppinette , command: SUBSCRIBE, list: CAPS, parameters: If not, is this a feature in the newer versions of MX? Thanks for any help, Chance Eppinette -- +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | | | Chance W. Eppinette email: eppinette@nlu.edu | | Technology Support Manager phone: (318) 342-5021 | | Northeast Louisiana University fax: (318) 342-5018 | | Computing Center office: Admin 1-156 | | Monroe, LA 71209 | | | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:32:33 -0800 Sender: goathunter@PROCESS.COM Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:32:23 -0600 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009CEAA6.1708A733.1@goat.process.com> Subject: RE: Question about approvals "Chance W. Eppinette" writes: > >Could this be forwarded back to the MXserver as an approval command such >as: > >APPROVE User: Chance Eppinette , command: >SUBSCRIBE, list: CAPS, parameters: > No, but you could implement such a thing using the SITE interface. That's been one of my "things I'd like to have" for a long time, but I've never gotten around to doing it. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:01:06 -0800 Sender: system@mailgate.spotimage.fr Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 16:01:03 GMT From: System Manager Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009CEB94.C9BC2460.47@spotimage.fr> Subject: 'Path' question do mails with addresses like @some.route:user@host.domain go thru the path analysis and use the path defined as Domain="*", Path= ... Pierre Bru. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:20:25 -0800 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:20:20 -0800 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009CEC15.35A12650.1@MadGoat.Com> Subject: RE: 'Path' question >do mails with addresses like > >@some.route:user@host.domain > >go thru the path analysis and use the path defined as > >Domain="*", Path= ... Yes, if the Router processes a message with a recipient address that is in that form. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:31:57 -0800 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:00:58 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 From: feck@fre.fsu.umd.edu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009CEC66.527FF840.9@fre.fsu.umd.edu> Subject: Re: Sender address on Digest Date sent: 5-NOV-1998 16:56:40 Teresa Feck writes: > The sender/return address on all digest listservers is my address >instead of the address of the person who sent the message. >The only reason that I can figure that the sender address of the digest >listserver is my address is because I managed the MX and my account is the >one that submits the batch job to process the digest mail. > How do I correct this problem so the sender address is the listserver >owner of the digest? I wanted to submit more clarification on my problem listed above. The incorrect sender address only happens when the digest listserver reply address is equal to sender. If the digest listserver reply address is set to list, then the listserver address appears as the return address. Teresa Feck System Manager _______________________________ Teresa J. Feck Internet: feck@frostburg.edu Academic Computing Phonemail: (301) 687-7090 Frostburg State University Frostburg, Maryland 21532 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:50:39 -0800 Sender: goathunter@PROCESS.COM Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:50:26 -0600 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009CEC75.9DA8ECD2.1@goat.process.com> Subject: Re: Sender address on Digest feck@fre.fsu.umd.edu writes: > >> How do I correct this problem so the sender address is the listserver >>owner of the digest? > >I wanted to submit more clarification on my problem listed above. The >incorrect sender address only happens when the digest listserver reply address >is equal to sender. If the digest listserver reply address is set to list, >then the listserver address appears as the return address. > The problem is that MX_DELIVER_DIGESTS.COM just MAILs the file. I have a newer version that use MX_SITE_IN to mail the digests; it lets the sender be "owner-list". I have intended to put that together, but haven't gotten to it yet. I'll try to do that soon. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:46:43 -0800 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:46:37 -0800 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: steve@gpsnet.com Message-ID: <009CF40D.AECD2E9D.1@MadGoat.Com> Subject: Re: help on mx 5.1 - max msg size >>How about adding a logical that will allow for the prior operation >>so that those of "Not Using Decnet Forwarding" can receive these >>emails? Pretty Please? If this does not happen then I will have to >>move onto a different mail platform, probably +gasp+ NT something or >>other. And you will not get a (single node) license fee. >> >>I had bamked on this upgrading fixing the line length problem. It was >>just happenstance that the mail slamming happened which forced me to >>get off of my duff. An ECO is now available for MX V5.1 that adds support for a logical name to allow delivery of messages with long lines. It is available at ftp://ftp.madgoat.com/mx/mx051/ecos/mx051_eco03.zip See the README file inside the kit for further information. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:47:10 -0800 Message-ID: <3.0.32.19981119104647.009d91f0@nicanor.acu.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:46:51 -0600 To: From: Tom Dolan Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Compress Utility CC: "Allen, David Nathan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" People, I wrote a little procedure that will automatically compress every mail.mai file on a disk. I still have a version of IUPOP that does not properly empty the wastebasket folder - this is a handy utility that does it for me. Enjoy! Tom Dolan ============================ $ SET NOON $! $! This procedure finds every mail.mai file on the disk specified $! and compresses them. Then it deletes all MAIL.OLD files on disk $! $! find where all mail.mai files are on disk $! $ DIR DUA0:[000000...]MAIL.MAI;* /OUT=MAIL.TMP $! $! MAIL automatically looks for mail.mai $! in the directory you specify with the compress command $! so we only need to collect the directories $! $ SEARCH MAIL.TMP "Directory" /OUT=COMPRESS.COM $! $! Create COMPRESS.DAT to be used to convert $! COMPRESS.COM into a command file $! $ OPEN/WRITE DAT COMPRESS.DAT $! write command at top to invoke MAIL $ WRITE DAT "INSERT ;$ MAIL $! write the COMPRESS command in front of every directory $ WRITE DAT "SUBSTITUTE/Directory / COMPRESS / WHOLE /NOTYPE" $! write exit from MAIL at the end $ WRITE DAT "INSERT END ; EXIT $! write del all mail.old files thereby freeing up disk space $! you may want to purge/keep=1 these files instead of $! deleting them $ WRITE DAT "INSERT END ;$ DEL DUA0:[000000...]MAIL.OLD;* $! write exit from the command file $ WRITE DAT "INSERT END ;$ EXIT $! exit from the edit session $ WRITE DAT "EXIT" $ CLOSE DAT $! $! Edit COMPRESS.COM using COMPRESS.DAT $! $ DEFINE/USER_MODE SYS$OUTPUT NL: $ EDIT/EDT/COMMAND=COMPRESS.DAT COMPRESS.COM $! $! do the actual compress $! $ @compress.com $! $! Clean Up $! $ DEL MAIL.TMP;* $ DEL COMPRESS.DAT;* $! you may want to keep the last compress.com around so you $! can see what it did - use purge/keep=1 instead of del $ DEL COMPRESS.COM;* $! $ EXIT ============================== ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:28:37 -0800 Message-ID: <3.0.32.19981119112823.009e2010@nicanor.acu.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:28:24 -0600 To: From: Tom Dolan Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: address rewrite MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" People, Please confirm I'm doing this correctly - I have an account on the machine named Webmaster so all email to Webmaster@any.local.path goes to his mailbox (I have 20 domains in the local path.) I want to divert email sent to webmaster@path2.local.path to go to person@not.local.path (ie an account out there not on the local machine) instead of the local Webmaster account. I assume all I have to do is define a rewrite rule: Define Rewrite "" => "" and all email sent to webmaster@path2.local.path will arrive in person@not.local.path's email box. Is this correct? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:57:38 -0800 Message-ID: <3.0.32.19981120155717.0146d400@nicanor.acu.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:57:18 -0600 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Tom Dolan Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: automatic Listowners list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MX People, The start of this routine automatically displays a list of all current lists and their owners. In addition this routine automatically creates a set of commands that refreshes the subscribers of a list called "listowenrs" by removing all previous subscribers and adding the current set of listowners. The routine then emails the set of automatically generated commands to the VMS user specified at the top of the routine. 1. Create a list called listowners - useful for communicating with all listowners of your system. 2. Run this routine - make sure you modify the EMAIL variable at the top so the command set will be emailed to the proper person. 3. Resend the commands to listowners-request@yourhost.yourdomain 4. NOTE: - this command set will send you an error message because it will try to add the listowner for each and every list even if the listowner address has already been added - one error for each additional time the command set tries to add him. 5. NOTE: The ADD command is case sensitive - some listowners will be added more than once if their address has more than one case on seperate lists - for example System and system will result in two subscriptions. 6. NOTE: This routine only adds the first listowner of each list to listowners. If a list has co-listowners, this list will only add one of them via the command set. Make sure your primary list owner is listed first at MCP> show list Enjoy! $!================================================= $! MAKE_LISTOWNERS.COM - Makes a list of all current $! listowners then auto creates an email command file $! to REMOVE all previous subscribers to the list $! called listowners and ADD all current listowners $! to the list. Then it emails the commands to the $! address defined below $!================================================================== ==========! $! $! Set this to the VMS user the commad file should be emailed to $! $ EMAIL = "SYSTEM" $! $!Temporarily deny access to global symbols. $ ON ERROR THEN CONTINUE $ ON CONTROL_Y THEN GOTO TheEnd $ SET SYMBOL/SCOPE=NOGLOBAL $ $!Define symbols to be used in the command procedure. $ MCP := $MX_EXE:MCP $ SAY := WRITE SYS$OUTPUT $! $!Show the currently define lists. $ SAY "" $ SAY "[*] CURRENT MAILING LISTS" $ SAY "" $ MCP SHOW LISTS/OUTPUT=LISTS.TMP $ SEARCH LISTS.TMP " Name:"," Owner: " $ SEARCH LISTS.TMP " Owner: " /OUT=OWNER.TMP $ SEARCH LISTS.TMP " Name: " /OUT=NAME.TMP $! $! Get list of current subscribers $! $ MCP REVIEW LISTOWNERS /OUT=CURRENT.TMP $! $! Create CURRENT.DAT to be used to convert $! CURRENT.TMP into email addresses only $! $ OPEN/WRITE CDAT CURRENT.DAT $! $ WRITE CDAT "SUBSTITUTE/NOMAIL,//WHOLE/NOTYPE" $ WRITE CDAT "SUBSTITUTE/,CONCEAL//WHOLE/NOTYPE" $ WRITE CDAT "SUBSTITUTE/,NOREPRO//WHOLE/NOTYPE" $ WRITE CDAT "SUBSTITUTE/,DIGEST//WHOLE/NOTYPE" $ WRITE CDAT "SUBSTITUTE/NOMAIL,//WHOLE/NOTYPE" $ WRITE CDAT "SUBSTITUTE/ //WHOLE/NOTYPE" $ WRITE CDAT "SUBSTITUTE/ //WHOLE/NOTYPE" $ WRITE CDAT "SUBSTITUTE/(NOMAIL)//WHOLE/NOTYPE" $ WRITE CDAT "SUBSTITUTE/(NOCASE)//WHOLE/NOTYPE" $! exit from the edit session $ WRITE CDAT "EXIT" $ CLOSE CDAT $! $! Edit CURRENT.TMP using CURRENT.DAT $! $ DEFINE/USER_MODE SYS$OUTPUT NL: $ EDIT/EDT/COMMAND=CURRENT.DAT CURRENT.TMP $! $! Write REMOVE commands to file to email $! $ OPEN/READ C CURRENT.TMP $ OPEN/WRITE COMMANDS COMMANDS.TXT $ WRITE_LOOP: $ READ/END=CLOOP_END C CURRENT $! $ WRITE COMMANDS "Remove/nonotify ",CURRENT $ GOTO WRITE_LOOP $! $ CLOOP_END: $ CLOSE C $! $! Create OWNER.DAT to be used to convert $! OWNER.TMP into email addresses only $! $ OPEN/WRITE ODAT OWNER.DAT $! $ WRITE ODAT "SUBSTITUTE/ OWNER: //WHOLE/NOTYPE" $ WRITE ODAT "SUBSTITUTE/""//WHOLE/NOTYPE" $! exit from the edit session $ WRITE ODAT "EXIT" $ CLOSE ODAT $! $! Edit OWNER.TMP using OWNER.DAT $! $ DEFINE/USER_MODE SYS$OUTPUT NL: $ EDIT/EDT/COMMAND=OWNER.DAT OWNER.TMP $! $! Create NAME.DAT to be used to convert $! NAME.TMP into email addresses only $! $ OPEN/WRITE NDAT NAME.DAT $! $ WRITE NDAT "SUBSTITUTE/ NAME: //WHOLE/NOTYPE" $! exit from the edit session $ WRITE NDAT "EXIT" $ CLOSE NDAT $! $! Edit NAME.TMP using NAME.DAT $! $ DEFINE/USER_MODE SYS$OUTPUT NL: $ EDIT/EDT/COMMAND=NAME.DAT NAME.TMP $! $! Write ADD commands to file to email to system owner $! $ OPEN/READ O OWNER.TMP $ OPEN/READ N NAME.TMP $ WRITE_LOOP: $ READ/END_OF_FILE=LOOP_END O OWNER $ READ/END_OF_FILE=LOOP_END N NAME $! $ WRITE COMMANDS "Add/nonotify ",NAME,"<",OWNER,">" $ GOTO WRITE_LOOP $! $ LOOP_END: $ CLOSE O $ CLOSE N $ CLOSE COMMANDS $! $ MAIL/SUBJECT="Commands" COMMANDS.TXT 'EMAIL' $! $ENDIT: $! $ DEL LISTS.TMP;* $ DEL OWNER.TMP;* $ DEL NAME.TMP;* $ DEL CURRENT.TMP;* $ DEL CURRENT.DAT;* $ DEL OWNER.DAT;* $ DEL NAME.DAT;* $ DEL COMMANDS.TXT;* $ SET SYMBOL/SCOPE=GLOBAL $ EXIT $!================================================= Tom Dolan Dolan@Bible.acu.edu 242 Bible Building Systems Manager ACU Box 29454 College of Biblical Studies Abilene, TX 79699 Abilene Christian University 915.674.3706 http://dolan.acu.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:49:12 -0800 Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981123224942.00922ab0@pop3.colloquium.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 22:49:42 +0000 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Colloquium Internet Technical Support Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: SMTP error 452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello; Recently, our mail server (a VAX running OpenVMS 6.1 and MX 5.1) has developed the following problem. Whenever someone conencts to our SMTP port and tries to send a message, they receive an 'Insufficient storage for any message right now' error. We have included a sample SMTP session here... 220 mailserver.ourdomain (MX V5.1 VAX) ESMTP server ready at Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:57:39 -1300 HELO computer.ourdomain 250 computer.ourdomain MAIL FROM: 452 4.3.4 Insufficient storage for any message right now. QUIT 221 2.3.0 mailserver.ourdomain Service closing transmission channel It *always* gives the 'Insufficient storage' error when we issue a 'MAIL FROM:' command. We have more than enough space free on all drives, and it is not affected by how many messages are on the queue. We have tried MCP QUEUE SYNC, MCP QUEUE PURGE, stopping and re-starting the MX processes - none of these things have solved the problem. We have looked for information on this error in various search engines and in the MX-List archive, but could find no reference to it. If anyone on this list can help us, we would be very grateful. Please copy any replies to support@colloquium.co.uk, in addition to posting to the list. Thank you; Colloquium Internet Technical Support. ----------------------------------------------------------------- (Technical Support) http://www.colloquium.co.uk email:support@colloquium.co.uk 101 Abercorn Street Colloquium Internet Paisley Telephone: +44 (0) 141 849 0849 PA3 4AT Facsimile: +44 (0) 141 849 0414 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 22:41:05 -0800 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:41:26 +0200 From: Esa Laitinen Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: SUPPORT@COLLOQUIUM.CO.UK, laitinen@juhani.decus.fi Message-ID: <009CFB0E.AFCF918E.4@juhani.decus.fi> Subject: RE: SMTP error 452 >It *always* gives the 'Insufficient storage' error when we issue a 'MAIL >FROM:' command. We have more than enough space free on all drives, and it Just to give a few things to check: Have you checked diskquotas? How about reserved free disk space? Esa Laitinen If I cannot reply to your news or mail message with reply, you won't get my answer. http://www.decus.fi Why try to hide away from spam, why not fight http://www.iki.fi/laitinen it? http://www.mcs.com/~jcr/junkemaildeal.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 06:28:27 -0800 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 06:28:21 -0800 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: support@colloquium.co.uk Message-ID: <009CFAFC.18983E4F.1@MadGoat.Com> Subject: RE: SMTP error 452 >Recently, our mail server (a VAX running OpenVMS 6.1 and MX 5.1) has >developed the following problem. Whenever someone conencts to our SMTP >port and tries to send a message, they receive an 'Insufficient storage for >any message right now' error. We have included a sample SMTP session here... Check the logical name MX_FLQ_DISK_FREE_RESERVED, which limits MX's use of disk space for the message queue. If the value for it is too high, use MX_DIR:MXCONFIG.COM to reconfigure it. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 07:47:29 -0800 Sender: system@mailgate.spotimage.fr Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 15:47:45 GMT From: System Manager Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009CFCDC.92ABCE40.18@spotimage.fr> Subject: mails thru to SITE process hello, mails to multiple recipients ($ MCP QUE SHO/FUL) processed thru SITE seem to be processed as multiple mail to *one* recipient (one at a time). (MX 4.1) is that right ? if so, is there a way to have these mails processed as one mail with multiple recipients ? thanks in advance, Pierre. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 04:28:40 -0800 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 04:28:34 -0800 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009CFD46.DC1005AA.3@MadGoat.Com> Subject: RE: mails thru to SITE process >mails to multiple recipients ($ MCP QUE SHO/FUL) processed thru SITE seem to >be processed as multiple mail to *one* recipient (one at a time). (MX 4.1) > >is that right ? if so, is there a way to have these mails processed as one >mail with multiple recipients ? Unfortunately, the interface only permits the return of one status code per message processed. In order for MX to reliably determine the delivery status for each recipient, they have to be handled one at a time. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 04:44:33 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:44:54 +0200 From: Esa Laitinen Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@MADGOAT.COM CC: laitinen@juhani.decus.fi Message-ID: <009CFFF8.74D20A3C.4@juhani.decus.fi> Subject: ORBS, MAPS, DUL and what you've got (feature request) There are several MAPS/RBL type of blocklists available, and MX uses quite happily them nowadays. But since the rationale for different lists is different (MAPS lists 'known offenders and spamhavens', DUL lists dialup lines, ORBS lists open relays), they're not overlapping, and thus I'd like to use all of them. I would LOVE to see this as a feature in upcoming versions of MX. This shouldn't be too difficult to implement. Of course there are performance implications, but I'm willing to take them ;-) Esa Laitinen If I cannot reply to your news or mail message with reply, you won't get my answer. http://www.decus.fi Why try to hide away from spam, why not fight http://www.iki.fi/laitinen it? http://www.mcs.com/~jcr/junkemaildeal.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:40:42 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:40:57 -1300 From: system@eagle.navsses.navy.mil Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@madgoat.com CC: system@eagle.navsses.navy.mil Message-ID: <009CFFD6.60D1AAA0.271@eagle.navsses.navy.mil> Subject: 'message delivery delayed' message All, I am having problems with the 'Message Delivery Delay' messages that MX V5.1 is generating. Some of my users think that their message is being completely rejected when they get this message. My boss has asked me two questions, #1 What criteria is used to trigger the sending of this message? #2 Can we modify this criteria or completely turn these messages off? Thanks! Mike Jacobi