Archive-Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:28:28 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:28:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Wing Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: relay block problem In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990527163121.02e50df0@ous.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 27 May 1999 16:31 -0700, Dan Sugalski wrote: > At 04:19 PM 5/27/99 -0700, Matt Madison wrote: > >>MX SMTP server: rejected message from to > >> sent by [170.182.151.131] due to disabled relay > >[...] > >>Thoughts? > > > >My guess is it's the extra dot at the end of the destination address that > >is throwing off the anti-relay code. The dot really shouldn't be there, but > >I'll look into making the checks more tolerant. > > The dot's legal, if I remember the RFC's correctly. (Though I very well > might not... :) Certainly legal for DNS names. It is legal for DNS names, but not email. From RFC1123, page 58: o Some systems over-qualify domain names by adding a trailing dot to some or all domain names in addresses or message-ids. This violates RFC-822 syntax. -Dan Wing ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:35:58 -0700 Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990601103548.03023ec0@ous.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 10:35:48 -0700 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Dan Sugalski Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: RE: relay block problem In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.19990527163121.02e50df0@ous.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:28 AM 6/1/99 -0700, Dan Wing wrote: >On Thu, 27 May 1999 16:31 -0700, Dan Sugalski wrote: > >> At 04:19 PM 5/27/99 -0700, Matt Madison wrote: >> >>MX SMTP server: rejected message from to >> >> sent by [170.182.151.131] due to disabled relay >> >[...] >> >>Thoughts? >> > >> >My guess is it's the extra dot at the end of the destination address that >> >is throwing off the anti-relay code. The dot really shouldn't be there, but >> >I'll look into making the checks more tolerant. >> >> The dot's legal, if I remember the RFC's correctly. (Though I very well >> might not... :) Certainly legal for DNS names. > >It is legal for DNS names, but not email. From RFC1123, page 58: > > o Some systems over-qualify domain names by adding a > trailing dot to some or all domain names in addresses or > message-ids. This violates RFC-822 syntax. Ah, interesting. Looks like I'm not the only person not reading far enough forward in the RFCs... Dan ---------------------------------------------"it's like this"-------------- Dan Sugalski (541) 737-3346 even samurai SysAdmin have teddy bears Oregon University System and even the teddy bears sugalskd@ous.edu get drunk ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 00:10:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:14:14 +0300 From: Esa Laitinen Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-LIST@MADGOAT.COM CC: laitinen@juhani.decus.fi Message-ID: <009D9069.21065C85.21@juhani.decus.fi> Subject: Spam checking and autoforwarded mail Hi! It seems to me that at least some, if not all, spam control is ignored, if a user has autoforwarded the mail (set forward foo@bar.com). Is this the case? If yes, is there anything that can be done about it? If no, Hunter, consider this as a suggestion for next version of MX: the spam control should be (optionally) on for passing messages as well ;-) Consider the following snippet from smtp debug file. We have Validate sender's domain name: enabled: 2-JUN-1999 09:58:45.77 =================================================== 2-JUN-1999 09:58:45.92 Processing queue entry number 11 on node JUHANI for path number 2 2-JUN-1999 09:58:46.02 Recipient: , route=INAME.COM 2-JUN-1999 09:58:46.09 SMTP_SEND: looking up host name INAME.COM 2-JUN-1999 09:58:46.17 SMTP_SEND: NETLIB_DNS_MX_LOOKUP status is 00000001 2-JUN-1999 09:58:46.41 SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with smv13.iname.net [165.251.8.134] 2-JUN-1999 09:58:46.59 SMTP_SEND: Connected 2-JUN-1999 09:58:46.66 SMTP_SEND: will wait 00:05:00.00 for reply. 2-JUN-1999 09:58:46.86 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 220 smv13.iname.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.1SMV2; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 02:55:01 -0400 (EDT) 2-JUN-1999 09:58:46.92 SMTP_Send: EHLO juhani.decus.fi 2-JUN-1999 09:58:46.99 SMTP_SEND: will wait 00:05:00.00 for reply. 2-JUN-1999 09:58:47.12 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250-smv13.iname.net Hello juhani.decus.fi [194.251.14.200], pleased to meet you 2-JUN-1999 09:58:47.18 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250-EXPN 2-JUN-1999 09:58:47.24 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250-VERB 2-JUN-1999 09:58:47.30 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250-8BITMIME 2-JUN-1999 09:58:47.35 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250-SIZE 4000000 2-JUN-1999 09:58:47.42 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250-DSN 2-JUN-1999 09:58:47.49 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250-ONEX 2-JUN-1999 09:58:47.55 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250-ETRN 2-JUN-1999 09:58:47.61 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250-XUSR 2-JUN-1999 09:58:47.67 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 HELP 2-JUN-1999 09:58:47.73 This is an ESMTP server. Recognized extensions: 2-JUN-1999 09:58:47.79 SIZE 2-JUN-1999 09:58:47.85 DSN 2-JUN-1999 09:58:47.92 ETRN 2-JUN-1999 09:58:47.99 SMTP_Send: MAIL FROM:<$$$homemail@excte.com> SIZE=4000 2-JUN-1999 09:58:48.05 SMTP_SEND: will wait 00:05:00.00 for reply. 2-JUN-1999 10:00:24.19 SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 451 <$$$homemail@excte.com>... Sender domain must resolve 2-JUN-1999 10:00:24.26 SMTP_Send: QUIT 2-JUN-1999 10:00:24.57 1 rcpts need retry, next try 2-JUN-1999 10:30:24.57 2-JUN-1999 10:00:24.67 *** End of processing pass *** Esa Laitinen If I cannot reply to your news or mail message with reply, you won't get my answer. http://www.decus.fi Why try to hide away from spam, why not fight http://www.iki.fi/laitinen it? http://www.mcs.com/~jcr/junkemaildeal.html ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 06:56:54 -0700 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 06:56:48 -0700 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: laitinen@juhani.decus.fi Message-ID: <009D904D.8C203214.11@MadGoat.Com> Subject: RE: Spam checking and autoforwarded mail >It seems to me that at least some, if not all, spam control is ignored, if a >user has autoforwarded the mail (set forward foo@bar.com). > >Is this the case? If yes, is there anything that can be done about it? If no, >Hunter, consider this as a suggestion for next version of MX: the spam control >should be (optionally) on for passing messages as well ;-) No, it's not the case. If MX gets a definitive "no such domain" response from the DNS on its query, it will reject all recipients. In the example you provided: > 2-JUN-1999 09:58:47.99 SMTP_Send: MAIL FROM:<$$$homemail@excte.com> SIZE=4000 excte.com does exist in the DNS. The inability for your DNS server to get information about the domain from the authoritative name servers results in a "server failed" response to MX's query. MX does NOT treat this the same way as "no such domain", because there are lots of valid domains out there for which connectivity to their authoritative name servers may temporarily be down, and I wouldn't want MX to reject messages simply due to network outages. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:21:58 -0700 Message-ID: <3758276D.DCA30F73@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 13:22:22 -0600 From: Miguel Angel Avila =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=E1zquez?= Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MX-LIST@MADGOAT.COM Subject: Mailing List creation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a problem creating a mailing list on MX, after creating a new message queue file on my VAX system. I´m using OpenVMS 6.2 in standalone mode. the problem is as follows: When I´m on MCP prompt and create a mailing list with the DEFINE LIST command, and being the list´s owner, I cannot subscribe people using VMS Mail neither Mail Client. When I send a subscription request (LISTSERV) the system responds showing an error message: Error-For: list-request@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx Error-Code: 3 Error-Text: No such local user What can I do to resolve this problem? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:23:23 -0700 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:23:12 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: miguel@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx Message-ID: <009D9215.DC0EC99C.5@goat.process.com> Subject: RE: Mailing List creation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Miguel Angel Avila =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?V=3DE1zquez?=3D writes: > >I have a problem creating a mailing list on MX, after creating a new >message queue file on my VAX system. >I=B4m using OpenVMS 6.2 in standalone mode. >the problem is as follows: >When I=B4m on MCP prompt and create a mailing list with the DEFINE LIST >command, and being the list=B4s owner, I cannot subscribe people using VMS >Mail neither Mail Client. When I send a subscription request (LISTSERV) >the system responds showing an error message: > >Error-For: list-request=40ccr.dsi.uanl.mx >Error-Code: 3 >Error-Text: No such local user > >What can I do to resolve this problem? > > Be sure you SAVE the configuration, then either shutdown and restart MX, or at least MCP RESET ROUTER,SMTP_SERVER. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:22:59 -0700 Message-ID: <008a01beaed1$6d357390$010020ac@sysman_home.deltatel.ru> From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: CC: "Sam Rozenfeld" Subject: Q:Killing spammers tool Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 01:30:08 +0400 Hi All! Is there some functionaly/tools which I can use for deleting all mails from address which recongized as spammer address ? I have tried to use REJMAN but this is not enough in next situation: I have Linux box with SMTP and VMS host with MX 5.x. Spammer use relay function of Linux box to send mails. Linux box configured for forward all outgoing mail to VMS hosts which rejected these mails to back. Linux box is blocked by huge number of mails. It's all. Is there any recommendation ? C U, SysMan at DLS ...................................................+ | Cel: +7 (901) 971-3222 http://home.dls.net | Fax: +7 (812) 115-1035 ................................................... Frying on the VMS + ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 18:43:35 -0700 From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) Subject: MX and Teergrube Date: 6 Jun 1999 03:40:07 +0100 Message-ID: <3759d177.0@nevada.kapsch.co.at> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU Some mailers now run Teergrube as a method to reduce UCE/SPAMs. I don't know, if Teergrube is a german invention, since almost all info I found is in german. http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/teergrube.en.html http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/antispam.html Now I've got problems with MX sending mail to a server running a teergrube. Mail is delivered, but connection stays open (as wanted by the teergrube), then MX times out (5min ?), MX requeues the mail again and finally after 96 retries returns the mail to the sender. I don't know, if the recipient got really 96 copies of the mail or nothing. Do any of you have any experience with Teergrube ? Does MX support the SMTP continuation lines in all cases ? Is there a way to increase the MX SMTP agent timeout limit (5min ?) ? TIA -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Tel. +43 1 81111-2651 Network and OpenVMS system manager Fax. +43 1 81111-888 FBFV/Information Services E-mail eplan@kapsch.net <<< KAPSCH AG Wagenseilgasse 1 PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLAN A-1121 VIENNA AUSTRIA "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 02:49:35 -0700 Message-ID: <009501beb00a$e39b2630$cd5b5bc1@mjpcnt.mtrias.hu> From: "=?iso-8859-2?B?TW9sbuFyIErzenNlZg==?=" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Subject: Fw: MX4.2, CMU-IP too long posting time Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 11:54:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We use VMS 5.5-2, MX 4.2, CMU-IP and Outlook Express. When I send a bigger enclosed file - ex. 100 Kb. - it needs a long time to post it. Can anybody explain what is the reason? Jozsef Molnar ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:37:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:37:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Wing Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: MX and Teergrube In-Reply-To: <3759d177.0@nevada.kapsch.co.at> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 6 Jun 1999 03:40 +0100, Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote: > Some mailers now run Teergrube as a method to reduce UCE/SPAMs. > I don't know, if Teergrube is a german invention, since almost all > info I found is in german. > > http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/teergrube.en.html > http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/antispam.html > > Now I've got problems with MX sending mail to a server running a teergrube. > Mail is delivered, but connection stays open (as wanted by the teergrube), > then MX times out (5min ?), So MX sends the ".", and doesn't get back the reply until after 5 minutes elapse? Or are you saying MX sends QUIT and doesn't get back a reply until after 5 minutes elapse? > MX requeues the mail again and finally after > 96 retries returns the mail to the sender. I don't know, if the recipient > got really 96 copies of the mail or nothing. > > Do any of you have any experience with Teergrube ? No. It's German for 'tar pit', if that tells you anything about its implementation. :-) > Does MX support the SMTP continuation lines in all cases ? As far as I have seen, it does. > Is there a way to increase the MX SMTP agent timeout limit (5min ?) ? I doubt that would solve the problem. It could exacerbate another problem, actually -- see RFC1047. -Dan Wing ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:37:53 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:37:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Wing Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU Subject: Re: MX and Teergrube In-Reply-To: <3759d177.0@nevada.kapsch.co.at> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 6 Jun 1999 03:40 +0100, Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote: > Some mailers now run Teergrube as a method to reduce UCE/SPAMs. > I don't know, if Teergrube is a german invention, since almost all > info I found is in german. > > http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/teergrube.en.html > http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/antispam.html > > Now I've got problems with MX sending mail to a server running a teergrube. > Mail is delivered, but connection stays open (as wanted by the teergrube), > then MX times out (5min ?), So MX sends the ".", and doesn't get back the reply until after 5 minutes elapse? Or are you saying MX sends QUIT and doesn't get back a reply until after 5 minutes elapse? > MX requeues the mail again and finally after > 96 retries returns the mail to the sender. I don't know, if the recipient > got really 96 copies of the mail or nothing. > > Do any of you have any experience with Teergrube ? No. It's German for 'tar pit', if that tells you anything about its implementation. :-) > Does MX support the SMTP continuation lines in all cases ? As far as I have seen, it does. > Is there a way to increase the MX SMTP agent timeout limit (5min ?) ? I doubt that would solve the problem. It could exacerbate another problem, actually -- see RFC1047. -Dan Wing ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:42:11 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:42:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Wing Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: Fw: MX4.2, CMU-IP too long posting time In-Reply-To: <009501beb00a$e39b2630$cd5b5bc1@mjpcnt.mtrias.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 11:54 +0100, Moln=E1r J=F3zsef wrote: > We use VMS 5.5-2, MX 4.2, CMU-IP and Outlook Express. When I send a big= ger > enclosed file - ex. 100 Kb. - it needs a long time to post it. > Can anybody explain what is the reason? 100,000 bytes is 195 VMS disk blocks. If your MX_DEVICE disk is fragmented or busy it can take a long time to find free blocks and put 100K of data into those blocks. How long does it take to copy a circa 195 block file to your MX_DEVICE disk using the DSL "COPY" command? -Dan Wing ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:32:03 -0700 Message-ID: <01BEB25B.9CE16DA0@ROOSA> From: Colin Briggs Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: "'MX-List@MadGoat.com'" Subject: Local user aliases Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:36:54 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a problem with Aliases for users that don't exist on our VMS = system. VMS system Alphaserver 2100 running VMS V6.2, MX V4.2 (domain name - = danks) NT Server running NT Mail (domain name - nipper) The NT Server has two network interfaces one to the internet and one to = the local LAN. It is running Ms Proxy server. PC users connect to the POP server on the NT box. VMS users use VMS Mail = and MX. To make mail from both the VMS system and the PC system have the = same domain name, the PC server forwards any unknown local addresses to = VMS. The VMS system forwards any non local addresses to the PC server. = All PC users also have a VMS account with the Forward address set to the = PC server. All of this works fine, now our manager has decided that VMS = and NT usernames will be different from the Email addresses. i.e. my VMS = and NT logon will be bric, my email address will be cbriggs@danks.com.au I can set this up OK on the NT box, PC users can send and receive to the = alias fine. The problem is the VMS box thinks that mail sent from VMS to = mx%"cbriggs@danks.com.au" is a local user and tries to deliver it = locally, which of course fails as the user doesn't exist. See error = message below. I have tried adding an Alias with MX mcp>define alias cbriggs colin@nipper which didn't make any difference. Am I doing something wrong with the alias or is there a better way to = set this up? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Note: this message was generated automatically. An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. --> Error description: Error-For: cbriggs@danks.com.au Error-Code: 3 Error-Text: No such local user Error-End: 1 error detected ------------------------------ Rejected message = ------------------------------ Received: by danks.com.au (MX V4.2 AXP) id 8; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 08:46:42 = +1000 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 08:46:42 +1000 From: cb@danks.com.au To: cbriggs@danks.com.au Message-ID: <009D95DD.0F887E1F.8@danks.com.au> Subject: test of alias fdsdsdsafdsafadsafds =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D MCP> sho all =20 Configuration file: MX_DEVICE:[JD$ROOT.MX]MX_CONFIG.MXCFG;21 MX version id is: MX V4.2 AXP Domain-to-path mappings: Domain=3D"[200.200.200.254]", Path=3DLocal Domain=3D"danks.com.au", Path=3DLocal Domain=3D"danks", Path=3DLocal Domain=3D"*.BITNET", Path=3DSMTP, Route=3D"cunyvm.cuny.edu" Domain=3D"*.UUCP", Path=3DSMTP, Route=3D"uunet.uu.net" Domain=3D"*", Path=3DSMTP Aliases: LocalName=3D"Postmaster", Address=3D"cb@danks.com.au" LocalName=3D"POSTMAST", Address=3D"cb@danks.com.au" LocalName=3D"cbriggs", Address=3D"colin@nipper" SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Number of DNS failure retries: 12 Accounting: disabled Default router: nipper LOCAL agent settings: DECnet delivery retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. Multiple VMS Mail From: addresses allowed. Local delivery errors are not CC'ed to local Postmaster. Delivery to MultiNet MM disallowed. Top headers: (none) Bottom headers: FROM,DATE,REPLY_TO,RETURN_PATH ROUTER agent settings: Automatic percent-hack handling: enabled Sender header for outgoing VMS Mail messages: included if necessary JNET agent settings: Automatic percent-hack handling: enabled BSMTP replies: disabled Accounting: disabled Lenient about gatewaying mail: no No mailer username set. DECnet_SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. SITE agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 X25_SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. ------------------------------------------------------- Colin Briggs Internet:colin@danks.com.au John Danks & Son Pty Ltd Voice: 613 9264 5000 414-426 Lower Dandenong Rd Fax: 613 9264 5123 Braeside, Vic, 3195, Australia ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:43:22 -0700 Message-ID: <0f8401beb286$37949a00$d6001c7e@gr-355538.si.com> From: "Brian Tillman" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: CC: Subject: Re: Local user aliases Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:41:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I can set this up OK on the NT box, PC users can send and receive to the alias fine. The problem is the VMS box >thinks that mail sent from VMS to mx%"cbriggs@danks.com.au" is a local user and tries to deliver it locally, which >of course fails as the user doesn't exist. We use VMS Mail aliases for this. My Email address is tillman_brian@si.com. I have on the VMS side: MAIL> set forward tillman_brian tillman This way, mail sent to tillman_brian@si.com arrives via MX on the VMS system, MX sees TILLMAN_BRIAN as a local user, and VMS Mail forwards it to my REAL username. Works fine. Brian Tillman Internet: tillman_brian at si.com Smiths Industries, Inc. tillman at swdev.si.com 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS Addresses modified to prevent Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991 SPAM. Replace "at" with "@" This opinion doesn't represent that of my company ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:50:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:50:27 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: colin@danks.com.au Message-ID: <009D95E5.F78CD0AA.8@goat.process.com> Subject: Re: Local user aliases "Brian Tillman" writes: > >We use VMS Mail aliases for this. My Email address is tillman_brian@si.com. >I have on the VMS side: > >MAIL> set forward tillman_brian tillman > >This way, mail sent to tillman_brian@si.com arrives via MX on the VMS >system, MX sees TILLMAN_BRIAN as a local user, and VMS Mail forwards it to >my REAL username. Works fine. > This is also what the ADDRESS_REWRITER in the EXAMPLES directory does, only it's more efficient, as the router determines the alias. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:44:09 -0700 Message-ID: <000801beb276$6d49c9f0$cd5b5bc1@mjpcnt.mtrias.hu> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?TW9sbuFyIErzenNlZg==?=" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Subject: Re: Fw: MX4.2, CMU-IP too long posting time Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:48:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----Eredeti =FCzenet---- Felad=F3: Dan Wing C=EDmzett: MX-List@MadGoat.com D=E1tum: 1999.j=FAnius.7. 17:26 T=E1rgy: Re: Fw: MX4.2, CMU-IP too long posting time On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 11:54 +0100, Moln=E1r J=F3zsef wrote: > We use VMS 5.5-2, MX 4.2, CMU-IP and Outlook Express. When I send a big= ger > enclosed file - ex. 100 Kb. - it needs a long time to post it. > Can anybody explain what is the reason? 100,000 bytes is 195 VMS disk blocks. If your MX_DEVICE disk is fragmented or busy it can take a long time to find free blocks and put 100K of data into those blocks. How long does it take to copy a circa 195 block file to your MX_DEVICE disk using the DSL "COPY" command? -Dan Wing Thank you very much for your letter. 420 blocks copy - 1 second ( VAX 4000/500 ) mail - more than 5 minutes Jozsef Molnar ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:36:19 -0700 From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Resent-To im Header Date: 17 Jun 1999 15:11:39 +0100 Message-ID: <3768f40b.0@nevada.kapsch.co.at> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU We use MX as our Company SMTP Mailserver and Exchange for our Outlook Clients. We have forwardings in VMS (with MAIL> SET FORWARD/USER= or with MAILUAF) for all Outlook users. So we got "Resent-To:" and other Resent-xx headers because the LOCAL agent does list the Resent-To, ... headers as being there LOCAL agent settings: ... Top headers: FROM,SENDER,TO,RESENT_TO,CC,RESENT_CC,BCC,RESENT_BCC,MESSAGE_ID, RESENT_MESSAGE_ID,IN_REPLY_TO,REFERENCES,KEYWORDS,SUBJECT, ENCRYPTED,DATE,REPLY_TO,RECEIVED,RESENT_REPLY_TO,RESENT_FROM, RESENT_SENDER,RESENT_DATE,RETURN_PATH,OTHER Bottom headers: (none) Exchange seems to have a problem with the Resent-To Headers. It uses the Resent-To info (which is then a local mail-adress with a nodename - the exchange server - in the domainpart) instead of the original "To:" in the presentation of the mail (in Outlook). So, Orig. "To:" (eg. a mailinglist) info is lost (or only available via the "Options" tab and then lost after another forward). We run this for years now. But since a couple of weeks, voices get louder of eliminating this "feature". And, of course, I'll try to do it. So, before switching off all the Resent-xx headers in the LOCAL agent, I thought I ask here (because MX settings affects _all_ users): *) Is this Exchange behaviour violating any RFC ? And if yes, do you expect M$ to fix it ? *) Do you know of any disavantages of switching off the Resent-xx headers in the LOCAL agent ? *) If using the MX/MCP Alias instead of VMSmail SET forward, I would not have the Resent-To Problem, but I would have a problem with users on VMS (sending to usernames only - solutions is to force MX via usernames@domain or MAIL>SET TRANSPORT). Correct ? TIA -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Tel. +43 1 81111-2651 Network and OpenVMS system manager Fax. +43 1 81111-888 FBFV/Information Services E-mail eplan@kapsch.net <<< KAPSCH AG Wagenseilgasse 1 PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLAN A-1121 VIENNA AUSTRIA "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:28:01 -0700 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:27:54 -0700 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: eplan@kapsch.net Message-ID: <009D9EA9.2ADA1974.1@MadGoat.Com> Subject: RE: Resent-To im Header >We use MX as our Company SMTP Mailserver and Exchange for our Outlook Clients. >We have forwardings in VMS (with MAIL> SET FORWARD/USER= or with MAILUAF) >for all Outlook users. > >So we got "Resent-To:" and other Resent-xx headers because the LOCAL agent >does list the Resent-To, ... headers as being there [...] >Exchange seems to have a problem with the Resent-To Headers. >It uses the Resent-To info (which is then a local mail-adress with a >nodename - the exchange server - in the domainpart) instead of the >original "To:" in the presentation of the mail (in Outlook). There is a logical name that you can define to turn off the Resent-XXXX: headers on a VMS MAIL forward: DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC MX_LOCAL_FORWARD_NO_RESENT any-value If this logical name is define, MX will not include those extra headers on a VMS MAIL forward; it will act more like an MCP ALIAS definition. [...] >*) Is this Exchange behaviour violating any RFC ? > And if yes, do you expect M$ to fix it ? Unless the definition of Resent-XXX headers has been clarified recently, I don't think it's a violation. The interpretation of those headers has always been kind of fuzzy. >*) Do you know of any disavantages of switching off the Resent-xx headers > in the LOCAL agent ? The only disadvantage I can think of is that disabling the inclusion of those headers prevents MX from detecting forwarding loops. >*) If using the MX/MCP Alias instead of VMSmail SET forward, I would not > have the Resent-To Problem, but I would have a problem with > users on VMS (sending to usernames only - solutions is to force > MX via usernames@domain or MAIL>SET TRANSPORT). Correct ? A simpler workaround would be something like this... you would still set a VMS MAIL forward for each user: SET FORWARD/USER=blah MX%"blah@domain.name" If the user is really a local VMS user, the alias definition would be DEFINE ALIAS blah "_blah@local.host.name" The leading "_" tells MX to deliver directly to the VMS MAIL user, bypassing any VMS MAIL forwarding (VMS MAIL obeys this convention as well). -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 05:15:13 -0700 Message-ID: <03fd01bebbdf$a15d4ce0$50680e26@hmiller> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: "Henry W. Miller" To: References: <000801beb276$6d49c9f0$cd5b5bc1@mjpcnt.mtrias.hu> Subject: Re: Fw: MX4.2, CMU-IP too long posting time Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 05:14:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Molnár József To: Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 5:48 AM Subject: Re: Fw: MX4.2, CMU-IP too long posting time > ----Eredeti üzenet---- > Feladó: Dan Wing > Címzett: MX-List@MadGoat.com > Dátum: 1999.június.7. 17:26 > Tárgy: Re: Fw: MX4.2, CMU-IP too long posting time > > > > On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 11:54 +0100, Molnár József wrote: > > > We use VMS 5.5-2, MX 4.2, CMU-IP and Outlook Express. When I send a bigger > > enclosed file - ex. 100 Kb. - it needs a long time to post it. > > Can anybody explain what is the reason? > > 100,000 bytes is 195 VMS disk blocks. If your MX_DEVICE disk is > fragmented or busy it can take a long time to find free blocks and put > 100K of data into those blocks. > > How long does it take to copy a circa 195 block file to your MX_DEVICE > disk using the DSL "COPY" command? > > -Dan Wing > > Thank you very much for your letter. > 420 blocks copy - 1 second ( VAX 4000/500 ) > mail - more than 5 minutes > > Jozsef Molnar > > > Molnar, What version of CMU-IP are you running? -HWM ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 06:14:05 -0700 Sender: system@mailgate.spotimage.fr Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:15:36 GMT From: System Manager Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009D9F70.9CFCDFC9.41@spotimage.fr> Subject: host to disable a delivery agent ? hi, is it possible NOT to start a delivery agent (site,smtp,...) process without re-instaling MX ? (I'm running MX042) Pierre. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 06:16:15 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:16:03 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: SYSTEM@SPOTIMAGE.FR Message-ID: <009D9F46.C4759D59.7@goat.process.com> Subject: RE: host to disable a delivery agent ? System Manager writes: > >hi, > >is it possible NOT to start a delivery agent (site,smtp,...) >process without re-instaling MX ? > >(I'm running MX042) > Yes. Edit MX_DIR:MX_STARTUP_INFO.DAT and remove the "*" or "*=x" from the line showing the agent you no longer want to run: 004SMTP_SERVER:* -> 004SMTP_SERVER: 004SMTP:*=2 -> 004SMTP: Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 02:39:51 -0700 Sender: system@mailgate.spotimage.fr Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:40:47 GMT From: System Manager Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009DA01B.C4E60B09.48@spotimage.fr> Subject: MX generated error messages hi, when I send a message too large for my mail gateway, I receive the quoted message. I think that this message is generated by MX. is it possible to have MX generate an encapsuled MIME message in place of the full plain text (something more "end-user-friendly" ;-) ? regards, Pierre. ---vvv---vvv---vvv---quoted-received-message---vvv---vvv---vvv--- Note: this message was generated automatically. An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. --> Error description: Error-For: recipient@somewhere.else Error-Code: 2 Error-Text: %MX_SMTP-F-MSG_TOO_LARGE, action aborted: exceeded storage allocation -(Via [194.199.150.1]) -Transcript: -Rcvd: 220 gatekeeper.spotimage.fr ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.5c-s4/8.7.5c/mc; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:32:16 GMT -Sent: HELO mailgate.spotimage.fr -Rcvd: 250 gatekeeper.spotimage.fr Hello mailgate.spotimage.fr [194.199.151.2], pleased to meet you -Sent: MAIL FROM: -Rcvd: 250 ... Sender ok -Sent: RCPT TO: -Rcvd: 250 Recipient ok -Sent: DATA -Rcvd: 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself -Rcvd: 552 Message exceeds maximum fixed size (1000000) -Sent: QUIT -Rcvd: 221 gatekeeper.spotimage.fr closing connection Error-End: 1 error detected ------------------------------ Rejected message ------------------------------ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 03:39:37 -0700 Message-ID: <003201bebca4$8da67f30$ce5b5bc1@mjpcnt.mtrias.hu> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?TW9sbuFyIErzenNlZg==?=" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: Subject: Re: Fw: MX4.2, CMU-IP too long posting time Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:44:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----Eredeti =FCzenet---- Felad=F3: Henry W. Miller C=EDmzett: MX-List@MadGoat.com D=E1tum: 1999.j=FAnius.21. 14:12 T=E1rgy: Re: Fw: MX4.2, CMU-IP too long posting time > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Moln=E1r J=F3zsef >To: >Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 5:48 AM >Subject: Re: Fw: MX4.2, CMU-IP too long posting time > > >> ----Eredeti =FCzenet---- >> Felad=F3: Dan Wing >> C=EDmzett: MX-List@MadGoat.com >> D=E1tum: 1999.j=FAnius.7. 17:26 >> T=E1rgy: Re: Fw: MX4.2, CMU-IP too long posting time >> >> >> >> On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 11:54 +0100, Moln=E1r J=F3zsef wrote: >> >> > We use VMS 5.5-2, MX 4.2, CMU-IP and Outlook Express. When I send a >bigger >> > enclosed file - ex. 100 Kb. - it needs a long time to post it. >> > Can anybody explain what is the reason? >> >> 100,000 bytes is 195 VMS disk blocks. If your MX_DEVICE disk is >> fragmented or busy it can take a long time to find free blocks and put >> 100K of data into those blocks. >> >> How long does it take to copy a circa 195 block file to your MX_DEVICE >> disk using the DSL "COPY" command? >> >> -Dan Wing >> >> Thank you very much for your letter. >> 420 blocks copy - 1 second ( VAX 4000/500 ) >> mail - more than 5 minutes >> >> Jozsef Molnar >> >> >> > >Molnar, > > What version of CMU-IP are you running? > >-HWM > - Henry W. Miller, We use the 6.6-5 version, but after your letter I have found a TEKIP0665-A and I have downloaded it. Now the version is 6.6-5A. It is more faster. J. Molnar ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:35:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:35:08 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009DA012.99639CF7.7@ALPHA.WKU.EDU> Subject: RE: MX generated error messages System Manager writes: > >when I send a message too large for my mail gateway, I receive the quoted >message. I think that this message is generated by MX. > >is it possible to have MX generate an encapsuled MIME message in place of >the full plain text (something more "end-user-friendly" ;-) ? > MIME is end-user friendly??? In any case, MX V5.1 produces MIME bounce messages in the new bounce format specified by somesuch RFC. I personally think they're hideous looking, but it's what everything produces these days. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:19:22 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:19:10 MDT From: Bill Monday Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@madgoat.com Message-ID: <009DA018.BFF574FA.7@upi.uhcolorado.edu> Subject: Setting Alias Hi, We are going to be migrating our incoming email to Exchange (kicking and screaming all the way...) and I need to be able to alias (fake?) all outgoing email from our Alpha to be in the format firstname.lastname@domain... Currently it is initials@domain... The Exchange server would take our domain alias name, and the only way to send mail directly to the Alpha would be to specify the machine name and use the initials format. I do have a list of all users' initials and their first and last names but how do I alias everyones email? The idea being that the users can still send from the Alpha, but it will look as though it came from the server running Exchange and any email replied to will go to the Exchange server with the correct firstname.lastname format and will stay there. Any easy way to accomplish this in MX v4.2? Thanks! Bill Monday wam@upi.uhcolorado.edu ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:32:51 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:32:42 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: wam@upi.uhcolorado.edu Message-ID: <009DA023.05E1AF7B.9@goat.process.com> Subject: RE: Setting Alias Bill Monday writes: > >The idea being that the users can still send from the Alpha, but it >will look as though it came from the server running Exchange and any email >replied to will go to the Exchange server with the correct firstname.lastname >format and will stay there. Any easy way to accomplish this in MX v4.2? > Yes. The ADDRESS_REWRITER was written specifically for this issue. I'd recommend you pick up this .ZIP file instead of using the one that comes with MX: ftp://ftp.madgoat.com/mx/examples/address_rewriter.zip Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:00:52 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:00:45 MDT From: Bill Monday Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009DA01E.8F1A9653.13@upi.uhcolorado.edu> Subject: RE: Setting Alias ! Yes. The ADDRESS_REWRITER was written specifically for this issue. ! I'd recommend you pick up this .ZIP file instead of using the one that ! comes with MX: ! ! ftp://ftp.madgoat.com/mx/examples/address_rewriter.zip ! Is that address correct? I don't see a /examples when I ftp. -Bill ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:25:20 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:25:08 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009DA02A.58ADC030.3@goat.process.com> Subject: RE: Setting Alias Bill Monday writes: > >! Yes. The ADDRESS_REWRITER was written specifically for this issue. >! I'd recommend you pick up this .ZIP file instead of using the one that >! comes with MX: >! >! ftp://ftp.madgoat.com/mx/examples/address_rewriter.zip >! > >Is that address correct? I don't see a /examples when I ftp. > Sorry, use: ftp://ftp.wku.edu/mx/examples/address_rewriter.zip Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:31:13 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:43:22 -0600 (MDT) From: "David Richardson, Senior Analyst" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Problems installing MX 5.1 To: MX-List@Madgoat.com Message-ID: <01JCPBCOSPLU0000ZM@AVC.CALGARY.AB.CA> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi. I'm having a problem getting MX 5.1 to work. Every message seems to go into the canceled state immediatly. The msg_text file does not get created. I've tryed to turn on logging ("define /syst/exec mx_*_debug True" for every applicable transport) and turning on accounting, but haven't found anything. We purchased 5.0 last June, but I didn't have time or access to the Firewall administrator to get 5.0 working. I assume that the 5.0 license works (the startup does say that it is successfully loaded) and that this is a sufficently recent purchase to be covered under the "Current" users provision for upgrading to 5.1. The environment is OpenVMS 6.2 Alpha, MX 5.1, Netlib 2.2F, UCX 4.2 (no ECOs). VMS system is behind a PIX firewall. We are installing MX to replace a PMDF gateway which is on a sister College's systems. Their name change, and changes of other natures are causing us to remove the private Decnet X.25 links. We will be installing PMDF on our other VMS system where the users E-mail store is to allow IMAP access to thier old E-mail from their outlook clients. We have an Exchange Server is place with a different address. Most users have their old address forwarded to the new one (VMS mail set forward...). My firewall Admin is unwilling to open a port to the current Mail host because the Student records system is on the same system. We expect to fold our two addresses into a single new address this fall when we are likely to experience a name change. Other information: MX setup Configuration file: MX_DEVICE:[MX]MX_CONFIG.MXCFG;14 MX version id is: MX V5.1 Address-rewriting rules: Rewrite "" => "" Domain-to-path mappings: Domain="EDMA.AVC.CALGARY.AB.CA", Path=Local Domain="[10.214.15.5]", Path=Local Domain="DINO", Path=Local, Route="DINO::" Domain="*", Path=SMTP Aliases: LocalName="Postmaster", Address="POSTMASTER@EDMA.AVC.CALGARY.AB.CA" LocalName="POSTMAST", Address="SYSTEM@EDMA.AVC.CALGARY.AB.CA" SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Number of DNS failure retries: 12 Accounting: enabled Default router: AVC.AB.CA SMTP server settings: Allow VRFY commands: enabled Act as SMTP relay for any host: enabled Validate sender's domain name: disabled Realtime Blackhole List check: disabled LOCAL agent settings: DECnet delivery retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting enabled. Multiple VMS Mail From: addresses allowed. Local delivery errors are CC'ed to local Postmaster. Incoming quoted-printable MIME messages are decoded. EXQUOTA privilege is enabled during local deliveries. Top headers: FROM,SENDER,TO,RESENT_TO,CC,RESENT_CC,BCC,RESENT_BCC,MESSAGE_ID, RESENT_MESSAGE_ID,IN_REPLY_TO,REFERENCES,KEYWORDS,SUBJECT, ENCRYPTED,DATE,REPLY_TO,RECEIVED,RESENT_REPLY_TO,RESENT_FROM, RESENT_SENDER,RESENT_DATE,RETURN_PATH,OTHER Bottom headers: (none) ROUTER agent settings: Accounting: enabled Automatic percent-hack handling: disabled Sender header for outgoing VMS Mail messages: included if necessary JNET agent settings: Automatic percent-hack handling: enabled BSMTP replies: disabled Accounting: disabled Lenient about gatewaying mail: no No mailer username set. DECnet_SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. SITE agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 X25_SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. MLF agent settings: Maximum recipients per message: NONE (no limit) Days of week to delay file server files: NONE No local domains defined. No inside networks/hosts defined. --------------------------------- UCX> show hosts LOCAL database Host address Host name 10.214.240.3 DNS1 10.214.240.5 DNS2 127.0.0.1 LOCALHOST, localhost 10.214.240.7 MAIL 10.214.15.5 dino, DINO 10.214.15.3 gwy1 BIND database Server: 10.214.240.5 DNS2 Host address Host name 10.214.240.3 adm_dns1.AVC1.AB.CA 10.214.240.5 adm_dns2.AVC1.AB.CA 10.214.240.19 adm_ras01.AVC1.AB.CA 10.214.240.7 admin_mail01.AVC1.AB.CA 10.214.240.7 avcmail1.AVC1.AB.CA 10.214.240.51 intranet.AVC1.AB.CA 10.214.240.51 www.AVC1.AB.CA One quirk in our setup: Internally we see the domain as AVC1.AB.CA, but from Outside we are AVC.AB.CA. I don't personnaly understand what is being accomplished by this. Any ideas would be welcome. David Richardson Senior Analyst Alberta Vocational College - Edmonton DRichardson@EDMA.AVC.Calgary.AB.CA Dave.Richardson@AVC.AB.CA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:19:10 -0700 From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: Problems installing MX 5.1 Date: 22 Jun 1999 23:13:51 +0100 Message-ID: <376ffc8f.0@nevada.kapsch.co.at> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@LISTS.WKU.EDU In article <01JCPBCOSPLU0000ZM@AVC.CALGARY.AB.CA>, "David Richardson, Senior Analyst" writes: >I'm having a problem getting MX 5.1 to work. Every message seems to go into >the canceled state immediatly. The msg_text file does not get created. I've >tryed to turn on logging ("define /syst/exec mx_*_debug True" for every >applicable transport) and turning on accounting, but haven't found anything. Check the disk usage. If it is over 90% (10% free), MX stops working. Purge your files or $ def/sys/ex MX_FLQ_DISK_FREE_RESERVED x ! where x is free in % (default 10) >We purchased 5.0 last June, but I didn't have time or access to the Firewall >administrator to get 5.0 working. I assume that the 5.0 license works (the >startup does say that it is successfully loaded) and that this is a sufficently >recent purchase to be covered under the "Current" users provision for upgrading >to 5.1. > >The environment is OpenVMS 6.2 Alpha, MX 5.1, Netlib 2.2F, UCX 4.2 (no ECOs). Better install the ECO 2 for UCX V4.2 and consider upgrading to at least OpenVMS V7.1 Finally check the MX ECOs ! At least two of them are mandatory... ftp://ftp.madgoat.com/mx/mx051/ecos/ Good luck -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Tel. +43 1 81111-2651 Network and OpenVMS system manager Fax. +43 1 81111-888 FBFV/Information Services E-mail eplan@kapsch.net <<< KAPSCH AG Wagenseilgasse 1 PSImail PSI%(0232)281001141::EPLAN A-1121 VIENNA AUSTRIA "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist" "VMS is today what Microsoft wants Windows NT V8.0 to be!" Compaq, 22-Sep-1998 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:47:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:49:20 -0600 (MDT) From: "David Richardson, Senior Analyst" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: Problems installing MX 5.1 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <01JCPFEY8VEA0060WM@BARNEY.AVC.CALGARY.AB.CA> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >Check the disk usage. If it is over 90% (10% free), MX stops working. >Purge your files or > >$ def/sys/ex MX_FLQ_DISK_FREE_RESERVED x ! where x is free in % (default 10) Yep. Thats solved the big problem anyways. >Better install the ECO 2 for UCX V4.2 >and consider upgrading to at least OpenVMS V7.1 > >Finally check the MX ECOs ! >At least two of them are mandatory... > > ftp://ftp.madgoat.com/mx/mx051/ecos/ I'll get them applied before we go production with this. Thanks to both Peter and Matt. Now, what magic combination of rewrite and path rules do I need to cause all mail addressed to <{user}@edma.avc.calgary.ab.ca> to be delivered (via Mail 11) to node PORKY? MX is running on node DINO and all users are on the other VMS system. I can not convince the firewall admin to open a SMTP port to PORKY. Messages stay in the in-process state. I can get messages sent to porky using SMTP (via internal ip address, not domain name). $ mcp que show /all/full Entry: 1, Origin unknown Status: CANCELLED, size: 0 bytes Created: 22-JUN-1999 16:40:29.34, expires 22-JUL-1999 16:40:29.34 Last modified 22-JUN-1999 16:40:38.66 Recipient #1: Recipient #2: Entry: 2, Origin: [Local] Status: IN-PROGRESS, size: 1216 bytes Created: 22-JUN-1999 16:40:49.03, expires 22-JUL-1999 16:40:49.03 Last modified 22-JUN-1999 16:41:01.63 LOCAL entry #3, status: IN-PROGRESS, size: 1216 bytes Created: 22-JUN-1999 16:41:01.17, expires 22-JUL-1999 16:40:49.03 Last modified 22-JUN-1999 16:41:01.53 Recipient #1: "PORKY::drichardson", Route=dino $ mcp show all Configuration file: MX_DEVICE:[MX]MX_CONFIG.MXCFG;26 MX version id is: MX V5.1 Address-rewriting rules: Rewrite "<{USER}@EDMA.AVC.CALGARY.AB.CA>" => "<""PORKY::{user}""@dino>" Domain-to-path mappings: Domain="[10.214.15.5]", Path=Local Domain="AVC.AB.CA", Path=SMTP, Route="[10.214.240.7]" Domain="DINO", Path=Local Domain="*", Path=SMTP Aliases: LocalName="Postmaster", Address="POSTMASTER@EDMA.AVC.CALGARY.AB.CA" LocalName="POSTMAST", Address="SYSTEM@EDMA.AVC.CALGARY.AB.CA" SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Number of DNS failure retries: 12 Accounting: enabled Default router: AVC.AB.CA SMTP server settings: Allow VRFY commands: enabled Act as SMTP relay for any host: enabled Validate sender's domain name: disabled Realtime Blackhole List check: disabled LOCAL agent settings: DECnet delivery retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting enabled. Multiple VMS Mail From: addresses allowed. Local delivery errors are CC'ed to local Postmaster. Incoming quoted-printable MIME messages are decoded. EXQUOTA privilege is enabled during local deliveries. Top headers: FROM,SENDER,TO,RESENT_TO,CC,RESENT_CC,BCC,RESENT_BCC,MESSAGE_ID, RESENT_MESSAGE_ID,IN_REPLY_TO,REFERENCES,KEYWORDS,SUBJECT, ENCRYPTED,DATE,REPLY_TO,RECEIVED,RESENT_REPLY_TO,RESENT_FROM, RESENT_SENDER,RESENT_DATE,RETURN_PATH,OTHER Bottom headers: (none) ROUTER agent settings: Accounting: enabled Automatic percent-hack handling: disabled Sender header for outgoing VMS Mail messages: included if necessary JNET agent settings: Automatic percent-hack handling: enabled BSMTP replies: disabled Accounting: disabled Lenient about gatewaying mail: no No mailer username set. DECnet_SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. SITE agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 X25_SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. MLF agent settings: Maximum recipients per message: NONE (no limit) Days of week to delay file server files: NONE No local domains defined. No inside networks/hosts defined. David Richardson Senior Analyst Alberta Vocational College - Edmonton DRichardson@EDMA.AVC.Calgary.AB.CA Dave.Richardson@AVC.AB.CA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:02:35 -0700 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:02:29 -0700 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: DRICHARDSON@EDMA.AVC.CALGARY.AB.CA Message-ID: <009DA059.795C1EBF.3@MadGoat.Com> Subject: Re: Problems installing MX 5.1 >Now, what magic combination of rewrite and path rules do I need to cause all >mail addressed to <{user}@edma.avc.calgary.ab.ca> to be delivered (via Mail 11) >to node PORKY? MX is running on node DINO and all users are on the other VMS >system. I can not convince the firewall admin to open a SMTP port to PORKY. > >Messages stay in the in-process state. I can get messages sent to porky using >SMTP (via internal ip address, not domain name). This sounds like the problem that ECO 4 fixes: ftp://ftp.madgoat.com/mx/mx051/ecos/mx051_eco04.zip -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 01:35:28 -0700 Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990623093427.00a62940@nebula.colloquium.co.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:34:27 +0100 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Colloquium Internet Technical Support Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: invalid message header contents MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hi We are running a mail server(ms.colloquium.co.uk) with mx 5.1. Ever since upgrading to this version, when the recipient and senders' email address tally, it gets rejected with "invalid message header contents". eg. -----Original Message----- From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [SMTP:MAILER-DAEMON@herald.colloquium.co.uk] Sent: 21 June 1999 10:44 To: arnotta@sedona.co.uk Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable The original message was received at Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:43:47 GMT from hastings-60.colloquium.co.uk [195.206.193.61] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to ms.colloquium.co.uk.: >>> DATA <<< 554 5.7.1 Message rejected due to header contents. 554 ... Service unavailable Changing the smtp server the mail goes through doesn't alter the error. Any thoughts? Elaine ------------------------------------------------------------------ (Technical Support) http://www.colloquium.co.uk email:support@colloquium.co.uk 101 Abercorn Street Colloquium Internet Paisley Telephone: +44 (0) 141 849 0849 PA3 4AT Facsimile: +44 (0) 141 849 0414 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:05:31 -0700 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:05:24 -0700 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: support@colloquium.co.uk Message-ID: <009DA0CF.3AD4F4D9.1@MadGoat.Com> Subject: RE: invalid message header contents >We are running a mail server(ms.colloquium.co.uk) with mx 5.1. Ever since >upgrading to this version, when the recipient and senders' email address >tally, it gets rejected with "invalid message header contents". eg. [...] ><<< 554 5.7.1 Message rejected due to header contents. That's from the spam filter; from your description, it sounds like the FROM_TO_SENDER_SAME heuristic filter. For most systems, mail coming in from the outside should not have all of those fields set the same. If you have specific users that you would like to exclude from this check, you would use REJMAN> ADD EXCLUSION/HEURISTIC=FROM_TO_SENDER_SAME "user@host" If this sort of thing happens a lot with legitimate messages, you could reduce the confidence level of the heuristic to have the messages accepted: REJMAN> ENABLE HEURISTIC FROM_TO_SENDER_SAME/CONFIDENCE=5 or you could DISABLE it altogether. Once you change the configuration, remember to reset or stop and restart the SMTP server to have it pick up the changes. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:07:09 -0700 Message-ID: <615523406DC3D21181330060085A1A1E083F98@kishinev.dls.net> From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.COM Subject: Q: MX 5.1-J REWRITE RULE Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:07:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain i All! I try to to reroute all mails which send to any recipients in domain to one mailbox in the same domain. mcp define rewrite <*@somewhere.net> mcp reset/cluster mail nl: "ZyzOp@somewhere.net" is returned with follows diagnostic: ------------------- Reporting-MTA: dns;mail.somewhere.net Received-From-MTA: smtp;alpha.somewhere.net (xxx.xxx.0.5) Arrival-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:27:03 -0500 Final-Recipient: rfc822;ZZ@somewhere.net Action: failed Status: 5.4.0 (Other or undefined network or routing status) Remote-MTA: dns;somewhere.net(xxx.xxx.0.4) Diagnostic-Code: smtp;transaction failed 554 5.4.6 Received too many times by this host. Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:27:07 -0500 .... ------------------- So, my variant is not work, is there some other kind of solution which allow me fulfil this task ? TIA. Cheers, +OpenVMS [Sys|Net] HardWorker........................................+ Russia,Delta Telecom JSC, Cel: +7 (901) 971-3222 191119,St.Petersburg,Transportny per. 3 116-3222 Fax: +7 (812) 115-1035 +http://www.levitte.org/~rlaishev/ .......... SysMan rides HailStorm + ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:09:41 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:09:31 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009DA5A8.534227A2.5@goat.process.com> Subject: RE: Q: MX 5.1-J REWRITE RULE "Ruslan R. Laishev" writes: > >i All! > I try to to reroute all mails which send to any recipients in domain >to >one mailbox in the same domain. > > mcp define rewrite <*@somewhere.net> > mcp reset/cluster > mail nl: "ZyzOp@somewhere.net" is returned with follows diagnostic: > >------------------- > Reporting-MTA: dns;mail.somewhere.net > Received-From-MTA: smtp;alpha.somewhere.net (xxx.xxx.0.5) > Arrival-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:27:03 -0500 > > Final-Recipient: rfc822;ZZ@somewhere.net > Action: failed > Status: 5.4.0 (Other or undefined network or routing status) > Remote-MTA: dns;somewhere.net(xxx.xxx.0.4) > Diagnostic-Code: smtp;transaction failed > 554 5.4.6 Received too many times by this host. > Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:27:07 -0500 First, the 554 indicates that you don't have listed as a local path. Second, the rewrite rules are applied in the order in which MX shows them when you do SHOW REWRITE. Be sure you don't have some other rule matching before the one you want to match. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:28:07 -0700 Message-ID: <3778F346.BEA911A2@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:24:38 +0400 From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: Q: MX 5.1-J REWRITE RULE References: <009DA5A8.534227A2.5@goat.process.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok. MCP DEFINE PATH somewhere.net LOCAL MCP RESET /CLU ... mail nl: "ZyzOp@somewhere.net" is returned with follows diagnostic: ------------------- Note: this message was generated automatically. An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. --> Error description: Error-For: ZZ@RADIUSVMS.COM Error-Code: 3 Error-Text: %MX_SMTP-F-MBX_UNAVAILABLE, action not taken: mailbox unavailable -(Via RADIUSVMS.COM) -Transcript: -Rcvd: 220 anvil.dls.net (MX V5.1-X AnFj) ESMTP server ready at Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:25:40 -0500 -Sent: HELO DTV4.DeltaTel.RU -Rcvd: 250 anvil.dls.net -Sent: MAIL FROM: -Rcvd: 250 2.1.0 MAIL command accepted. -Sent: RCPT TO: -Rcvd: 550 5.1.1 No such local user: ZyzOp -Sent: QUIT -Rcvd: 221 2.3.0 anvil.dls.net Service closing transmission channel Error-End: 1 error detected ... ------------------- Hunter Goatley wrote: > > "Ruslan R. Laishev" writes: > > > >i All! > > I try to to reroute all mails which send to any recipients in domain > >to > >one mailbox in the same domain. > > > > mcp define rewrite <*@somewhere.net> > > mcp reset/cluster > > mail nl: "ZyzOp@somewhere.net" is returned with follows diagnostic: > > > >------------------- > > Reporting-MTA: dns;mail.somewhere.net > > Received-From-MTA: smtp;alpha.somewhere.net (xxx.xxx.0.5) > > Arrival-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:27:03 -0500 > > > > Final-Recipient: rfc822;ZZ@somewhere.net > > Action: failed > > Status: 5.4.0 (Other or undefined network or routing status) > > Remote-MTA: dns;somewhere.net(xxx.xxx.0.4) > > Diagnostic-Code: smtp;transaction failed > > 554 5.4.6 Received too many times by this host. > > Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:27:07 -0500 > > First, the 554 indicates that you don't have listed as > a local path. > > Second, the rewrite rules are applied in the order in which MX shows > them when you do SHOW REWRITE. Be sure you don't have some other rule > matching before the one you want to match. > > Hunter > ------ > Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ > http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ -- Cheers, +OpenVMS [Sys|Net] HardWorker........................................+ Russia,Delta Telecom JSC, Cel: +7 (901) 971-3222 191119,St.Petersburg,Transportny per. 3 116-3222 Fax: +7 (812) 115-1035 +http://www.levitte.org/~rlaishev/ .......... SysMan rides HailStorm + ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:30:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:30:27 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009DA5AB.402FBB9F.3@goat.process.com> Subject: Re: Q: MX 5.1-J REWRITE RULE "Ruslan R. Laishev" writes: > >Ok. > > MCP DEFINE PATH somewhere.net LOCAL > MCP RESET /CLU > ... > mail nl: "ZyzOp@somewhere.net" is returned with follows diagnostic: > > -Sent: RCPT TO: > -Rcvd: 550 5.1.1 No such local user: ZyzOp But did you check the order of the rewrite rules? >> Second, the rewrite rules are applied in the order in which MX shows >> them when you do SHOW REWRITE. Be sure you don't have some other rule >> matching before the one you want to match. Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:37:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:37:24 EDT From: Brian Reed Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009DA5B4.9A94E42B.7@cbict3.cb.lucent.com> Subject: RE: Q: MX 5.1-J REWRITE RULE >I try to to reroute all mails which send to any recipients in domain >to one mailbox in the same domain. > > mcp define rewrite <*@somewhere.net> Is a "*" allowed? I thought you needed this: mcp define rewrite <{user}@somewhere.net> ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:38:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3778F5B4.EE4A9AE@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:35:00 +0400 From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: Q: MX 5.1-J REWRITE RULE References: <009DA5AB.402FBB9F.3@goat.process.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hunter Goatley wrote: > > "Ruslan R. Laishev" writes: > > > >Ok. > > > > MCP DEFINE PATH somewhere.net LOCAL > > MCP RESET /CLU > > ... > > mail nl: "ZyzOp@somewhere.net" is returned with follows diagnostic: > > > > -Sent: RCPT TO: > > -Rcvd: 550 5.1.1 No such local user: ZyzOp > > But did you check the order of the rewrite rules? Yeah. There is one, and no other matching rules. > > >> Second, the rewrite rules are applied in the order in which MX shows > >> them when you do SHOW REWRITE. Be sure you don't have some other rule > >> matching before the one you want to match. > > Hunter > ------ > Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ > http://www2.wku.edu/hunter/ -- Cheers, +OpenVMS [Sys|Net] HardWorker........................................+ Russia,Delta Telecom JSC, Cel: +7 (901) 971-3222 191119,St.Petersburg,Transportny per. 3 116-3222 Fax: +7 (812) 115-1035 +http://www.levitte.org/~rlaishev/ .......... SysMan rides HailStorm + ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:49:27 -0700 Message-ID: <3778F845.1920BEAF@SMTP.DeltaTel.RU> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:45:57 +0400 From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: Q: MX 5.1-J REWRITE RULE References: <009DA5B4.9A94E42B.7@cbict3.cb.lucent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah!!! Thanks, Brian! Thanks Hunter! Sorry for "dumbing" :( Brian Reed wrote: > > >I try to to reroute all mails which send to any recipients in domain > >to one mailbox in the same domain. > > > > mcp define rewrite <*@somewhere.net> > > Is a "*" allowed? I thought you needed this: > > mcp define rewrite <{user}@somewhere.net> -- Cheers, +OpenVMS [Sys|Net] HardWorker........................................+ Russia,Delta Telecom JSC, Cel: +7 (901) 971-3222 191119,St.Petersburg,Transportny per. 3 116-3222 Fax: +7 (812) 115-1035 +http://www.levitte.org/~rlaishev/ .......... SysMan rides HailStorm + ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 03:00:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:02:27 +0200 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: Anders Olsson Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: I would like to be off ORBS database MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello! I=B4ve seen you have discussed this but I didn't see a general solution. OK, I=B4m just a librarian trying to run our site. The ORBS guys say my site is an open relay. I upgrade ty MX V5.1-x and I thought it was OK. Nope. They still got through and I disabled the percent-hack handling. Still they get meassages through and I don=B4t understand why. My settings are: Domain-to-path mappings: Domain=3D"kthbib.lib.kth.se", Path=3DLocal Domain=3D"[130.237.29.3]", Path=3DLocal Domain=3D"kthbib.kth.se", Path=3DLocal Domain=3D"kthlib.kth.se", Path=3DLocal Domain=3D"lib.kth.se", Path=3DLocal Domain=3D"kthbib", Path=3DLocal Domain=3D"*.BITNET", Path=3DSMTP, Route=3D"SUNIC.SUNET.SE" Domain=3D"*.UUCP", Path=3DSMTP, Route=3D"SUNIC.SUNET.SE" Domain=3D"*", Path=3DSMTP SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 48 Number of DNS failure retries: 12 Accounting: disabled Default router: (none) SMTP server settings: Allow VRFY commands: enabled Act as SMTP relay for any host: disabled [SHOW LOCAL_DOMAINS lists hosts] Validate sender's domain name: disabled Realtime Blackhole List check: disabled LOCAL agent settings: DECnet delivery retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. Multiple VMS Mail From: addresses allowed. Local delivery errors are not CC'ed to local Postmaster. Incoming quoted-printable MIME messages are decoded. EXQUOTA privilege is enabled during local deliveries. Top headers: FROM,SENDER,TO,RESENT_TO,CC,RESENT_CC,BCC,RESENT_BCC,MESSAGE_ID, RESENT_MESSAGE_ID,IN_REPLY_TO,REFERENCES,KEYWORDS,SUBJECT, ENCRYPTED,DATE,REPLY_TO,RESENT_REPLY_TO,RESENT_FROM,RESENT_SENDER, RESENT_DATE,OTHER Bottom headers: (none) ROUTER agent settings: Accounting: disabled Automatic percent-hack handling: disabled Sender header for outgoing VMS Mail messages: included if necessary JNET agent settings: Automatic percent-hack handling: enabled BSMTP replies: disabled Accounting: disabled Lenient about gatewaying mail: no No mailer username set. DECnet_SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. SITE agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 X25_SMTP agent settings: Retry interval: 0 00:30:00.00 Maximum number of retries: 96 Accounting disabled. MLF agent settings: Maximum recipients per message: NONE (no limit) Days of week to delay file server files: Monday,Tuesday,Wednesday,Thursday,Friday,Saturday,Sunday Local domain patterns for SMTP relay checks: *.KTH.SE No inside networks/hosts defined. What is wrong?=20 regards Anders Olsson __________________________________________________________ " En juste flanellograf sl=E5r vilken webl=E4sare som helst" (L.= Wittgenstein) __________________________________________________________ Anders Olsson, Systemadministrat=F6r, KTHB tel: 08-790 71 07 alt. 070-641 39 63 Fax: 08-790 78 52 mailto:anders@lib.kth.se ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:29:56 -0700 Sender: jtb@atm.com.pl Message-ID: <99Jun30.133456met_dst.14344@gateway.hq.atm.com.pl> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:27:33 +0200 From: Jacek Tobiasz Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com, Anders Olsson Subject: Re: I would like to be off ORBS database References: <99Jun30.120858met_dst.14338@gateway.hq.atm.com.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Anders Olsson wrote: > > Hello! > > I´ve seen you have discussed this but I didn't see a general solution. OK, unless something has changed recently in ORBS, there _is_ general solution. > I´m just a librarian trying to run our site. The ORBS guys say my site is > an open relay. I upgrade ty MX V5.1-x and I thought it was OK. Nope. They upgrading is not enough, in current version of VMS, you must manually close open relay. > still got through and I disabled the percent-hack handling. Still they get > meassages through and I don´t understand why. My settings are: [...] > SMTP server settings: > Allow VRFY commands: enabled > Act as SMTP relay for any host: disabled [SHOW LOCAL_DOMAINS lists hosts] First thing to do - OK > Validate sender's domain name: disabled Not related to relaying, but worth enabling. > Realtime Blackhole List check: disabled as above [...] > ROUTER agent settings: > Accounting: disabled > Automatic percent-hack handling: disabled second thing - OK. [...] > Sender header for outgoing VMS Mail messages: included if necessary > Local domain patterns for SMTP relay checks: > *.KTH.SE you mail server may be used as a relay for *.KTH.SE - if you like it - it's OK. > No inside networks/hosts defined. third thing to configure - NOT DONE yet. MCP> define inside ... MCP> reset You have to specify which IP networks you "trust" and e-mails with your users addresses (RCPT FROM) can come from. You must specify all your IP networks your users can send mails from. Now it is possible to me to send mail through you smtp server (relaying) from any place - let's say Poland - to any place. All I have to do is to spoof my e-mail address as coming from your domain. E.g. I can configure in my Netscape that my From: address is jtb@kthbib.lib.kth.se and send it through you server to any address I want. This is one of the ways ORBS makes tests. Without inside networks MX will treat such a mail as legal and will forward it where I want. Regards Jacek Tobiasz