Archive-Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:37:28 -0700 Message-ID: <002701bef487$7dee15b0$bdb757cc@MadGoat.Com> From: "Matt Madison" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: CC: References: <01JFF71W6JCU8Y6CJB@meena.cc.uregina.ca> Subject: Re: Setting up anti-relay in MX 5.0 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:37:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > We need to disable unauthorized SMTP relaying through our v5.0 MX > server. We thought we could simply set > > MCP SET SMTP/NORELAY_ALLOWED > > But, after reading the description of this in section 7.4 in the MX > Management Guide, we are not sure if this will work for us. > > Here is the scenerio: > > Let us call our server machine A. > > a) Nobody logs direclty into A nor use any mail clients connecting > to A to read mail messages. > b) All those who have accounts on A have mail forwarding set to > their work/home addresses which they update whenever they change > jobs or ISPs. > c) Most of these people have subscribed to mailing lists using > their email addresses on A. > d) There are several mailing lists defined on A using MXserver. > Members to these lists may or may not have accounts on A. > > So, if we did the MCP SET SMTP/NORELAY_ALLOWED command, what will > happen to mail meant for those in b), c) and d)? It depends on whether your users use "A" for sending mail messages; you mention that their mail clients do not connect to it for reading mail, but do they use it directly for sending? If they do, then you'd only run into a problem if both the source address and the destination address(es) for their messages are not within your domain. If they use their home/work SMTP servers for both sending and receiving mail, then there shouldn't be a problem -- for a message to get to "A" there will have to be a recipient address within "A"s domain. That the end result is generating messages that then go outside your domain (either through an alias or forwarding, or via a mailing list) doesn't count as a relay in the SMTP server. -Matt ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 09:16:47 -0700 Message-ID: <37D3F701.3AB95756@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx> Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 11:16:50 -0600 From: Miguel Angel Avila =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=E1zquez?= Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "MX-List@MadGoat.com" Subject: Software Product version? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have BASIC language loaded on a MicroVAX 3100-80 system, but I do not know what is the currently version of BASIC on the system. All information I see is the one dispplayed with SHOW LICENSE command. The information it displays on the system is: ------- Product ID -------- ---- Rating ----- -- Version -- Product Producer Units Avail Activ Version Release Termination BASIC DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 27-SEP-1999 Does anyone tell me how may I know the version I have currently in use, please? Thanks!. Miguel Angel. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 09:25:37 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Ferguson, Linwood" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: "'MX-List@MadGoat.com'" Subject: RE: Software Product version? Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:25:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A strange place to ask the question, but usually the program name is BASIC.EXE in SYS$SYSTEM, and a quick way to find out is: $ ana/image/int sys$system:basic.exe hit return about 4 times and you will see a section like: Image Identification Information image name: "BASIC" image file identification: "VAX BASIC V3.3" link date/time: 27-MAY-1988 19:17:24.07 linker identification: "05-00" which will show what you want. Control-Z to get out. If your VMS is really old it might not have the /int qualifier, leave = it off and read fast (it doesn't stop after each section). Linwood -----Original Message----- From: Miguel Angel Avila V=E1zquez [mailto:miguel@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx]=20 Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 1:17 PM To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Software Product version? I have BASIC language loaded on a MicroVAX 3100-80 system, but I do not know what is the currently version of BASIC on the system. All information I see is the one dispplayed with SHOW LICENSE command. The information it displays on the system is: ------- Product ID -------- ---- Rating ----- -- Version -- Product Producer Units Avail Activ Version Release Termination BASIC DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) 27-SEP-1999 Does anyone tell me how may I know the version I have currently in use, please? Thanks!. Miguel Angel. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:18:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:17:41 -0600 From: hunterl@uwwvax.uww.edu Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009DDC9A.4CCA2199.27@uwwvax.uww.edu> Subject: RE: Software Product version? Compile a basic program: basic/list=junk.lis fn.ft It is on the top line => I have BASIC language loaded on a MicroVAX 3100-80 system, but I do not => know what is the currently version of BASIC on the system. All => information I see is the one dispplayed with SHOW LICENSE command. The => information it displays on the system is: => => ------- Product ID -------- ---- Rating ----- -- Version -- => Product Producer Units Avail Activ Version Release => Termination => BASIC DEC 0 0 100 0.0 (none) => 27-SEP-1999 => => Does anyone tell me how may I know the version I have currently in use, => please? => => Thanks!. => => Miguel Angel. => => Lyle Hunter T & IR University Wisconsin-Whitewater 414-472-1967 Fax: 414-472-5733 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:32:08 -0700 Message-ID: <37D54C55.C6D21AF2@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 11:33:10 -0600 From: Miguel Angel Avila =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=E1zquez?= Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Re: Software Product version?, thanks. References: <009DDC9A.4CCA2199.27@uwwvax.uww.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I really appreciate to everyone of you who help me with your answers about my question posted yesterday on MX-List, I have gathered the information I need thanks to you. Thank you very much!. Miguel Angel. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:30:20 -0700 Message-ID: <37DE8698.91811F8F@lognet.ch> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 19:32:08 +0200 From: "C.Fruechtenicht" Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: Rewrite problem... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Problem with rewrite roules.... we would like to do the following. user1@domain1.com should be rewritten to user2@domain1.com and user1@domain2.com should be rewritten to user3@domain2.com domain1.com and domain2.com art virtual on the same host. what have i to do to solve that problem. ???? for help and hints thank you i.a regards C.Fruechtenicht ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 22:16:14 -0700 Message-ID: <002a01beff39$53b34970$150110ac@pcmv.pdv.intern> Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com From: "Martin Vorlaender" To: CC: "\"C.Fruechtenicht\"" Subject: Re: Rewrite problem... Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 07:15:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >we would like to do the following. > >user1@domain1.com should be rewritten to user2@domain1.com > >and > >user1@domain2.com should be rewritten to user3@domain2.com > >domain1.com and domain2.com art virtual on the same host. $ RUN MX_EXE:MCP MCP> DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "" "" MCP> DEFINE REWRITE_RULE "" "" MCP> SAVE MCP> RESET ROUTER MCP> EXIT $ cu, Martin -- | Martin Vorlaender VMS & WNT programmer OpenVMS is today | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de what Microsoft wants | http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/ Windows NT 8.0 to be! | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 09:04:23 -0700 Sender: stoeri@eapclu.iap.tuwien.ac.at Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 18:04:12 +0200 From: Herbert Stoeri Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009DE71B.01F0E656.1@eapclu.iap.tuwien.ac.at> Subject: MX 5.1 TCPIP-services 5.0, POP and MIME enclosures Hi, I configured the POP-server the same way as I did with UCX 4.1 and MX 5.0. This is: 1) Define UCX$SMTP_IGNORE_MAIL11_HEADERS "TRUE" 2) Configure UCX SMTP with the option "TOP_HEADERS" This configuration worked without problem. Now, with TCPIP-services 5.0 POP, some POP generated headers are still present with a blank line after them, in effect disabling the recognition of MIME headers. According to the logfile POP recognizes the logical TCPIP$SMTP_IGNORE_MAIL11_HEADERS. The Manual sais the following: URL: http://www.openvms.digital.com:8000/72final/6526/6526profile_022.html The POP server sends these message headers to the POP client unless all of the following are true: The TCPIP$POP_IGNORE_MAIL11_HEADERS logical name is defined (see Section 15.3). The From: address is an SMTP address. The SMTP qualifier /OPTION=TOP_HEADERS is set. Does this mean, pop will only accept mail with the SMTP-prfix for delivery without MAIL11-Headers? Does anyone have experience with this? I checked the MX- List Archive without finding a conclusive answer. An option is possibly IUPOP3, but this package has not been maintained since more than a year. Best regards Herbert Stoeri +------------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Herbert Stoeri | Phone: ++43(1)58801/13460 | | Institut fuer Allgemeine Physik | Fax: ++43(1)58801/13499 | | Technische Universitaet Wien | email: stoeri@iap.tuwien.ac.at | | Wiedner Hauptstrasse 8-10 | | | A-1040 Wien | http://www.iap.tuwien.ac.at/ | | Austria | | +------------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 01:29:10 -0700 Sender: system@mailgate.spotimage.fr Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:31:58 +0000 From: System Manager Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Message-ID: <009DEC4B.39E3B660.58@spotimage.fr> Subject: update to OpenVMS VAX 7.2-1/UCX 5.0-A hi, I'm about to change from OpenVMS VAX 6.2/UCX 4.2 to OpenVMS VAX 7.2-1/UCX 5.0-A are there any known problem with MX4.1 (or MX4.2) and this new OpenVMS/UCX combination ? TIA, Pierre. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 01:49:03 -0700 Message-ID: <9D8E2EEA9035D11188FA006097D07CFA3E8CDC@buzz.hspg.com> From: Andrew Robinson Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: "'MX-List@MadGoat.com'" Subject: RE: update to OpenVMS VAX 7.2-1/UCX 5.0-A Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:48:16 +0100 All the problems I ever came across have been covered in this group, Thank you folks. I will however say make sure you download all the updates, especially for TCP/IP Regards Andrew Robinson -----Original Message----- From: System Manager [mailto:system@spotimage.fr] Sent: 27 September 1999 09:32 To: MX-List@MadGoat.com Subject: update to OpenVMS VAX 7.2-1/UCX 5.0-A hi, I'm about to change from OpenVMS VAX 6.2/UCX 4.2 to OpenVMS VAX 7.2-1/UCX 5.0-A are there any known problem with MX4.1 (or MX4.2) and this new OpenVMS/UCX combination ? TIA, Pierre. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 06:44:19 -0700 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 06:44:13 -0700 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: system@mailgate.spotimage.fr Message-ID: <009DEC3C.2CDDB2B8.26@MadGoat.Com> Subject: RE: update to OpenVMS VAX 7.2-1/UCX 5.0-A >I'm about to change from OpenVMS VAX 6.2/UCX 4.2 to OpenVMS VAX 7.2-1/UCX 5.0-A >are there any known problem with MX4.1 (or MX4.2) and this new OpenVMS/UCX >combination ? You should install the latest version of NETLIB, V2.2F, for compatibility with UCX V5. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:22:12 -0700 Sender: svist070@stvincents.COM.AU Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:24:35 EDT From: Daiajo Tibdixious MACS Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: mx-list@madgoat.com CC: svist070@stvincents.com.au Message-ID: <009DEDE4.E8BA7922.9@svs30.stvincents.com.au> Subject: Lipo-spam advice I want to stop this particular spam (non-invasive liposuction, looks like an address harvester) but I'm confused by the lack of sender in the bottom headers. Can I use the lack of sender as the spam filter, or is there some other reason it isn't there? LOCAL agent settings: Top headers: FROM,TO,CC,SUBJECT,DATE,OTHER Bottom headers: SENDER,RESENT_TO,RESENT_CC,BCC,RESENT_BCC,MESSAGE_ID, RESENT_MESSAGE_ID,IN_REPLY_TO,REFERENCES,KEYWORDS,ENCRYPTED, REPLY_TO,RECEIVED,RESENT_REPLY_TO,RESENT_FROM,RESENT_SENDER, RESENT_DATE,RETURN_PATH Bottom headers from the message: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from svhfw.stvincents.COM.AU (sva001.stvincents.COM.AU) by svs14.stvincents.com.au (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:22:27 EST-10EST Received: by svhfw.stvincents.COM.AU; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA20098; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:28:24 +1000 Message-ID: <9909240628.AA20098@svhfw.stvincents.COM.AU> Received: from dns2.stvincents.COM.AU by svhfw.stvincents.COM.AU (smtpxd); id XA18036 Received: from skr01.for-a.co.jp (203.138.166.130) by dns2.stvincents.com.au (MX V5.1 Vn7f) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:43:04 +1000 Received: from c9w8 (ip238.providence11.ri.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.242.238]) by skr01.for-a.co.jp (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0100111-30564) with ESMTP id AAA74; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:01:47 +0900 X-MX-Warning: Warning -- Invalid "Reply-To" header. Reply-To: Is it true that this says skr01.for-a.co.jp is being used as a spam relay? The reason I want to stop it is it gets a relay-refused, the bounce bounces (since the sender & reply-to are non-existent/invalid), and it goes to mailer-daemon (which does not exist) and I finally get it as postmaster. Is mailer-daemon supposed to be a defined alias? -- dTibdixious@stvincents.com.au Server Technical Support Daiajo Tibdixious St.Vincent's Public Hospital, Sydney, Australia ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:53:30 -0700 Sender: madison@MadGoat.Com Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:53:25 -0700 From: Matt Madison Reply-To: MX-List@MadGoat.com To: MX-List@MadGoat.com CC: svist070@stvincents.com.au Message-ID: <009DED62.D383C2D9.2@MadGoat.Com> Subject: RE: Lipo-spam advice >I want to stop this particular spam (non-invasive liposuction, looks like an >address harvester) but I'm confused by the lack of sender in the bottom >headers. Can I use the lack of sender as the spam filter, or is there some >other reason it isn't there? It's the Return-Path: header that's of interest here. That's the header that shows you the SMTP envelope return address that you would use in a REJMAN filter. Sender: is an optional header in RFC822. [...] >Is it true that this says skr01.for-a.co.jp is being used as a spam relay? That's what it looks like. >The reason I want to stop it is it gets a relay-refused, the bounce bounces >(since the sender & reply-to are non-existent/invalid), and it goes to >mailer-daemon (which does not exist) and I finally get it as postmaster. > >Is mailer-daemon supposed to be a defined alias? No. -Matt -- Matthew Madison | MadGoat Software | PO Box 556, Santa Cruz, CA 95061 USA madison@madgoat.com http://www.madgoat.com