nick_at_swrcc.demon.co.uk
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Hi There OSF'ers,
Sorry about the extended delay between my original question (24.Oct.95)
and this summary, but here goes anyway :
I asked :-
> Following advice from this mailing list to the effect that the easiest
> pop3 daemon by far to install and run on OSF was the "Clemson" one
> (at ftp://hubcap.clemson.edu), I downloaded it the other day and
> found that it's all true - it really is easy to setup - *unless* you
> have any kind of enhanced security installed.
> If you have OSF with Enhanced Security then get Stuart "Zen" Bishop's
> version from ftp://ftp.bf.rmit.edu.au/pub/src/pop3d.
> But I also wanted to install the Clemson pop3d on some Ultrix machines
> we have, also with Enhanced Security installed, and found the security
> interfaces on Ultrix differ from those on OSF/1, so I had to make mods to
> pop3d.c to call the Ultrix enhanced security interfaces for password
checking.
> I can't believe I'm the only one to have done this,
> and I also note that the latest release dates back to 1992, so I
> tried to email the Clemson pop3d author (as named in the source files)
> about this, but got :-
> Your message could not be delivered to
> 'wstef_at_eng.clemson.edu (host: eng.clemson.edu) (queue: smtpns)'
> for the following reason:
> ' <wstef_at_eng.clemson.edu>... User unknown'
> So my question is :-
> a) is there a later or better version of the Clemson pop3 daemon
> somewhere else ?
> (BTW: I couldn't find the other recommended pop3d, namely
> the Qualcomm one at ftp.qualcomm.com/pub/quest - the directory
> doesn't exist)
> b) does anyone want *my* patch to pop3d for Ultrix Enhanced
> security ? (I'm not the world's greatest C programmer)
And the answer is :-
* Nobody knows what's happened to the author of the Clemson Pop3d; as
far as can be known, no further development is happening but the
original distribution (dated 1992) is still there for downloading
(from
ftp://hubcap.clemson.edu) and is *very* easy to set up.
* If you run OSF with Enhanced Security then go for Stuart Bishop's
modified Clemson version at
ftp://ftp.bf.rmit.edu.au/pub/src/pop3d
instead of the original Clemson version.
* The other popular choice is Qualcomm's "popper", which is kept up
to date; it can be obtained from
ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/quest/unix/servers/popper
It is apparently a maintained version of something Berkeley used to
distribute (it was written there), and supports OSF/1 with or
without Enhanced Security.
* Nobody wanted my Ultrix Enhanced Security modifications to the
Clemson version (you're probably all very wise).
* As far as I know, the received wisdom from this list is still
that you should avoid at all costs using the pop3 daemon bundled
with DEC OSF/1.
I've now downloaded the latest popper from Qualcomm (version 2.1.4-r3
dated 25th.May.95) but as it doesn't seem to be as trivial as the
Clemson pop3d to install (and I'm a novice) I haven't tried it yet.
Still, it looks a whole lot more useful; in particular, make files
are supplied for both OSF/1 & Ultrix, and it appears to be able
to work on both with or without Enhanced Security.
I haven't been watching the list for the last month, so if this
Summary has been superseded by an intervening one then my
apologies to everyone.
There were only 3 replies, which all came to me very quickly - thanks
to the responders : Kent Adams <Kent.Adams_at_jcu.edu.au>
Randall S. Winchester <rsw_at_eng.umd.edu>
Craig Hagan <hagan_at_rmc1.crocker.com>
I hung on, waiting to see if anyone else had anything to say, and
then got distracted by a whole lot of office admin stuff. There have
been no more replies, but here's the full text of what did come :
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> FYI. We got popper from Qualcomm after getting the following information
> when chasing pop3d. No enhanced security.
> ------
> 128 swordfish:popper # less README.950416
> Berkeley is no longer distributing popper in any form. We have never
> been able to support it, and our version has fallen far out of date.
> There are much newer versions available from:
> ftp.qualcomm.com
> in the directory:
> /quest/unix/servers/popper
> Cliff Frost
> Network Services
> UC Berkeley
> 129 swordfish:popper #
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> ftp.qualcomm.com under /quest/unix/servers/popper.
> Is the location. I just got the newest version my self.
> Randall
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> i'd dont run enhanced security at all on my ultrix box,
> so that patch wont help me (mail is on a linux machine for
> me anyhow...).
> You had asked about other pop3 daemons. i have found that one of
> the best is the ipop3d which comes with the pine/imapd.
> One of its neat features is that it talks to imap processes
> also - if i have my mailbox open with pine/maelstrom/generic
> imap client, and i fire up eudora it will notify the imap
> clients that their connection has been usurped so that
> i don't have a consistancy hazard.
> the pine people are also very very good about keeping
> up with patches and whatnot.
> -- craig
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Craig, your answer intrigues me - I just wish I understood what it
means (imap processes / usurped connections / consistency hazards -
yeesh, more things I didn't know I had to worry about). Still, this
ipop3d has obviously impressed you so I *will* look into it. I've
already discovered that pine and/or elm are highly regarded mail
readers in the community (the thing called "mail" that comes with
Un*x should have been strangled at birth), and one or other is next
on my list of goodies to obtain to make our Un*x'es more usable.
For now I'm contenting myself with a (gulp) Windows Pop3 client.
Be seeing y'all,
Nick Boyce
Tech Support Team,
EDS Healthcare, Bristol, UK
Received on Wed Nov 29 1995 - 00:36:40 NZDT