SUMMARY: Java for DEC UNIX?

From: William D. Blasingame <msdc!daleb_at_uunet.uu.net>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 96 10:57:25 EST

Thanks to all who responded to my query about Java for DU. Here
is a summary for those interested.

My original post:
>
> With all the hoopla about Java in the trades lately, I was wondering if
> anyone has heard of any plans by DEC to license the technology to implement
> under DU? Perhaps a Java interpreter? Also, I've used the Netscape
> binary available for DEC OSF/1, but my copy is old. Is there a Java-capable
> Netscape (or other browser) available for DU?
>
> Any replies welcome (and you may assume I know nothing!). I will
> summarize for this list.
>

brian_holman_at_byu.edu
responded:

The Open Software Foundation is working on a port of Java to Digital UNIX.
For more information see "http://www.gr.osf.org/projects/web/java/". Also
the current beta of Netscape on Digital UNIX does not support Java Applets
but does support JavaScript. I suspect Netscape may be waiting for OSF to
port the Java Runtime Environment to OSF before Netscape will support Java
applets on Digital UNIX.
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uunet!celfi.phys.univ-tours.fr!nicolis
responded:
Well I did read someplace that Sun Microsystems were making Java available 
to universities and the like (i.e. same conditions as Netscape). 
Also the latest version of Netscape out is 2.00beta 4 and the OSF/1 one 
is for version 2.0--but it runs OK on my machine under v3.0. 
Just my 0.02 
Stam
uunet!qc.bell.ca!dmckilli
responded:
There is apparently an OSF initiative to do a standard port for all the
OSF members, including DEC.  They have a various impressive looking web
page at http://www.gr.osf.org/projects/web/java/.  However I haven't
heard of them actually delivering anything yet, and I'm not sure I'd
hold my breath.
> Also, I've used the Netscape
> binary available for DEC OSF/1, but my copy is old. Is there a Java-capable
> Netscape (or other browser) available for DU?
Well, it's getting there. Java itself, no. Netscape 2.0 Beta 4 supports
Sun, HP and SGI, but DEC is still not there (nor IBM's RS/6000). It is
supposed to be there before the commercial release of 2.0 though. On the
other hand, Javascript works in Beta 4 for OSF/1 (Javascript is kind of
a, well, scripted version of Java, interpreted at the source code level
instead going through the Java compiler -- for more information, see
http://home.netscape.com/comprod/products/navigator/version_2.0/script/).
Best way to keep up is Digital Espresso's (no, not *that* Digital) Java
magazine at  http://www.io.org/~mentor/jnIndex.html.
Hope this helps...
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uunet!oaunx1.ctd.ornl.gov!m6u
responded:
Dale,
FYI, I sent the following to Java (Sun) and have not yet gotten an answer. 
There is a 2.ob4 version available for an Alpha and it runs on a system
that has Digital UNIx 3.2c, but it doesn't support Java.  I got it from: 
http://home.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/2.0/relnotes/unix-2.0b4.html
Part of the README says:
______________________________________________________________________
Java Applet Support:
            Java Applet support is available for SunOS 4.1, Solaris 2.3,
            Solaris 2.4, HPUX, IRIX and Linux.
            To run Java applets with the Java-enabled version, the
            Navigator needs to be able to load Java class files from a file
            called moz2_0.zip.  This file is included in the distribution,
            but must be moved to any of these directories:
                The directory from which you are running Netscape.
                /usr/local/netscape/java/classes
                /usr/local/lib/netscape
                $HOME/.netscape
            If you were running Java with an earlier version of the Netscape
            Navigator, you need to replace your old moz2_0.car file
            with the moz2_0.zip file supplied in this distribution.
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I look forward to your summary.
Rick Muse
______________________________________________________________________
}Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:47:17 -0500 (EST)
}From: Rick Muse <m6u_at_ornl.gov>
}To: Rick Muse <MuseR_at_ornl.gov>
}Cc: java_at_java.sun.com, MuseR_at_ornl.gov
}Subject: Java and the DEC Alpha
Are there any plans to have Java available on the DEC Alpha?  I have been
told that the problem is the Alpha is 64 bit chip.  Is there any truth to
this?  I am currently running Digital UNIX 3.2C on DEC 300/800's and an
AlphaServer 2100 4/275. 
Thank you.
Rick Muse                              Internet:       MuseR_at_ornl.gov
Lockheed Martin Energy Systems         Phone:          (423) 574-9425
Data Systems Research and Development  FAX:            (423) 574-0792
Mail Stop 7623
1099 Commerce Park
Oak Ridge, TN 37830-8027
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talbot_at_hl.wes.army.mil
responded:
About a month ago I spoke with a Sun Java guru at a small computer 
exposition.  He wasn't a salesman by trade (very obvious in his demeanor
and explainations) but rather a programer.  He was VERY excited about
the whole Java thing and said that the underlying motive behind it all
was to put innovation back in the computer software mainstream and, while
they're at it, knock Microsoft down a few notches.  It was very entertaining
to talk with him.  When I inquired about DU versions of Java, he said 
that while every platform would be supported with working versions of
Java-browsers and even run-time library support, DEC had not as yet 
officially joined the Java "club".  Disappointing news to me but seeing 
as how even Microsoft has "signed a letter of intent to license Java",
I am hopeful that DEC will see the light and jump on the band-wagon, at
least in some fashion.  
Thought I'd fill you in on what I know.....
Cheers,
Cary
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Cary A. Talbot, Hydraulic Engineer         US Army Corps of Engineers
ATTN: CEWES-HH-G                         Waterways Experiment Station
3909 Halls Ferry Road
Vicksburg, Mississippi 39180
phone:(601)634-4286   fax:(601)634-4208  email:talbot_at_hl.wes.army.mil
boerm_at_u.washington.edu
responded:
*Rumors* I heard around the Sun and DEC booths at the recent W3 conference 
in Boston suggested that we should see Java for Alphas by end of Spring 
1996. 
[X] Michael Boer | boerm_at_u.washington.edu | 206-543-8262
Systems Coordinator | <a href=http://www.nnlm.nlm.nih.gov/pnr/>
National Network of Libraries of Medicine | Pacific Northwest Region</a>
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Dale Blasingame						         daleb_at_msdc.com
Medical Systems Development Corp. (MsdC)	        voice:   770/984-9550
Received on Tue Jan 09 1996 - 17:53:21 NZDT

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