--- TB> What part numbers did you order, and when did you order them? SK> Well, we ordered by cleartext description (on 12 July), and our SK> distributor added the part numbers: SK> SK> 1. Digital UNIX CD-Set version 4.0 (QA-MT4AA-H8) SK> 2. Digital UNIX Layered Products CD-Set for version 4.0 (QA-054AA-H8) SK> 3. Digital UNIX complete printed doc for version 4.0 (QA-MT4AA-GZ) SK> 4. Digital UNIX base license update (QL-MT4AE-7E) SK> SK> We got delivered: SK> SK> 1. a box containing Digital UNIX v4.0 CD's AND Digital UNIX v3.2F CD's SK> (this box contained a sheet "Important Product Information", SK> part no. AV-QTLUA-TE, which instructed us to wait for version SK> 4.0 of the software library to become available, if we intended SK> to use certain layered products - POLYCENTER, DCE, etc.) SK> 2. a CDROM folder "Digital UNIX Alpha Lib Pkg Q2CY96", containing SK> 8 CD's labelled 'April 1996' with layered software, on-line docs SK> and NAS 7.1 SK> 3. a box containing books for Digital UNIX v3.2C SK> 4. a license PAK TB> Sounds right, given the part numbers. TB> TB> QA-MT4AA-H8 is the part number for the combined CDROM media kit, which will TB> have both V4.0 and V3.2x (where V3.2F was current when you ordered the kit). TB> By now, you'd probably get V3.2G in the kit, or at least, by next month, as TB> it's in manufacturing now and I've received my kit. TB> TB> QA-054AA-H8 is the part number for the layered products CDROM kit, which is TB> what you got, but apparently the July version wasn't ready yet. If what you TB> want is the right layered products for V4.0, you need the July kit, and if TB> you specified the one to go with V4.0 on your order, then your distributor TB> got you the wrong kit (they should have verified that it was the July 1996 TB> distribution, and deferred the order until it was available). TB> TB> QA-MT4AA-GZ is the part number for the V3.2x printed documentation. The new TB> part number for the V4.0 printed documentation is QA-MT4AP-GZ. If you want TB> the printed reference pages, that's part number QA-MT4AG-GZ. These parts TB> are listed in the V4.0 SPD, but you probably didn't have that. I believe TB> it's available on the www.unix.digital.com web site, but I haven't checked. TB> TB> QL-MT4AE-7E is a valid operating system update license part number. --- TB> My understanding is that there are now three medias kits for the Digital TB> UNIX operating system -- one for just V3.2C through V3.2G (which use the TB> same books, but you'd get the latest CD media), one for just V4.0 (which has TB> new books and new CDROM media), and one with BOTH V3.2G and V4.0. SK> Obviously we got the latter, only with 3.2F instead of 3.2G. What is that SK> needed for? Isn't the 4.0 CD set self-contained and complete? TB> Yes. When we introduced V4.0, we realized that some customers buying new TB> kits would want to run V4.0, and some would want to run the most up to date TB> revision of V3.2x. So we decided that new licenses would be for V4.0 (so a TB> customer has the right to run V4.0 or any earlier version), and we decided TB> to put both the V3.2x and V4.0 media and installation manuals in the kit. TB> TB> For example, there are some hardware systems that are supported by V3.2F TB> that are not supported by V4.0. Also, there are layered applications (both TB> from Digital and from third parties) that work with V3.2x but don't yet work TB> with V4.0. So some people need (or want) V3.2x, which is why it's in the TB> box at no additional charge. --- TB> As for the layered product CD kit, it's the same part number, but what you TB> get depends on what's available in your geography at the time you order it. TB> If the July kit wasn't available yet and the April kit was available, you TB> will get the April kit. SK> Are there problems with the April kit and version 4.0? Anyway, the only SK> layered product from this kit that is of critical importance for us SK> right now are the ADVFS Utilities. We have a multi-volume file domain SK> setup under v2.0 and would like to keep it. However, ADVFS Utils seem SK> to be contained in the Digital UNIX v4.0 CD set, too (on the Associated SK> Products CD's). I suppose we can safely install v4.0 using only that CD set. TB> I believe you are 100% right on the ADVFS Utilities -- use the versions on TB> the Associated Products CD. There are other things, like DECnet/OSI and the TB> Open3D software, that simply won't work, because they are dependent on some TB> data structures in the kernel that have changed. Most other things (such as TB> languages) will work with no changes. The V4.0 Installation Guide and/or TB> the Release Notes and the Customer Letter should list the incompatible stuff TB> we knew about when the kit was produced. --- TB> So, there *is* new printed documentation for V4.0 but you have to be sure TB> you order the right part numbers to get it (because we still have the V3.2C TB> documentation available under the old part numbers, yes, this is a real mess TB> for customers), and yes, there is a July layered products CDROM but it may TB> not have been available in Germany when you placed your order. SK> We will send back the v3.2C docs and obtain the v4.0 books. TB> Sounds like it was an honest mistake on the part of your distributor. Give TB> them the part number I've indicated above and you should get the right stuff TB> the next time. TB> TB> Let me apologize on behalf of Digital for the confusion our part numbering TB> can create. It's way too complicated for mere mortals to get it right. --- Thanks again! Steffen ----- Steffen Kluge <kluge_at_ave.ac.agit.de> ave GmbH Aachen Keywords: photography, Mozart, UNIX, Islay Malt -----Received on Fri Aug 02 1996 - 20:59:56 NZST
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