-- H. Blakely Williford Men never do evil so completely and Systems Administrator cheerfully as when they do it from The Fuller Brush Company religious conviction. (Pascal) >From digitalink.com!joe.wilson Thu Mar 20 11:30:07 1997 Return-Path: <joe.wilson_at_digitalink.com> Received: by pascal.physics.smu.edu (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.5) id <m0w7lfD-000RAzC_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu>; Thu, 20 Mar 97 11:30 CST Received: from mjolnir.digitalink.com by excaliber.digitalink.com; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/15Jan96-0459PM) id AA25363; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:38:27 -0500 Received: from argos by mjolnir.digitalink.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/10Jan96-0415PM) id AA27352; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:29:31 -0500 Sender: root_at_mjolnir.digitalink.com Message-Id: <333173F5.AE50F06_at_digitalink.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:29:25 -0500 From: Joe Wilson <joe.wilson_at_digitalink.com> Organization: washingtonpost.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Rakesh Jain <jain_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu> Subject: Re: disk mirroring on alpha References: <m0w7lFM-000RAzC_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Rakesh Jain wrote: > I would like to mirror the system disk so that I can have a redundant > disk system in case of crash. any ideas how I can do that....... > I have a 3000-700 with DUNIX 3.2c. The disk I want to mirror is 4.2GB. > Or uis there any other way I can copy the data from the disk every night to > other disk and be able to boot from new disk in case first one crashed?. The way we have done this is to use LSM to mirror the root and swap disk. While it is a bit complicated and there are a few undocumented gotchas, it can be done. The procedure is documented in the 3.2G LSM manual. J -- *#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#* *# *# Joe Wilson Digital Ink - www.washingtonpost.com *# Systems Analyst Programmer (C, C++, DOS, VB, Windows, UNIX) *# (703) 469-2644 1560 Wilson Blvd, Arlington, VA 22209 *# *# He who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, *# is as good as dead; his eyes are closed. --Albert Einstein *# *#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#* >From metrokc.gov!Ronald.Muller Thu Mar 20 11:31:42 1997 Return-Path: <Ronald.Muller_at_metrokc.gov> Received: by pascal.physics.smu.edu (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.5) id <m0w7lgj-000RAzC_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu>; Thu, 20 Mar 97 11:31 CST Received: from xinet1.metrokc.gov (dms.metrokc.gov) by metrokc.gov (PMDF V5.1-4 #15616) with SMTP id <01IGPYIDFTWE0000QH_at_metrokc.gov> for jain_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:32:19 PST Received: by xinet1.metrokc.gov with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.57) id <01BC3512.77FF3A30_at_xinet1.metrokc.gov>; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:38:29 -0800 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:38:23 -0800 From: "Muller, Ronald" <Ronald.Muller_at_metrokc.gov> Subject: RE: disk mirroring on alpha To: "'jain_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu'" <jain_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu> Message-id: <c=US%a=_%p=METROKC%l=INANNA-970320173823Z-561_at_xinet1.metrokc.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.57 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Status: RO Use LSM. Here is a link to it's manual: http://www.unix.digital.com/faqs/publications/base_doc/DOCUMENTATION/HTM L/AA-Q3NCE-TE_html/TITLE.html >---------- >From: jain_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu[SMTP:jain_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu] >Sent: Thursday, March 20, 1997 9:03 AM >To: alpha-osf-managers_at_ornl.gov >Subject: disk mirroring on alpha > >hi, > > I would like to mirror the system disk so that I can have a redundant >disk system in case of crash. any ideas how I can do that....... >I have a 3000-700 with DUNIX 3.2c. The disk I want to mirror is 4.2GB. >Or uis there any other way I can copy the data from the disk every night to >other disk and be able to boot from new disk in case first one crashed?. > >Thanks >Rakesh > > >From nabeth.cxo.dec.com!alan Thu Mar 20 11:59:16 1997 Return-Path: <alan_at_nabeth.cxo.dec.com> Received: by pascal.physics.smu.edu (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.5) id <m0w7m7Q-000RAzC_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu>; Thu, 20 Mar 97 11:59 CST Received: from nabeth.cxo.dec.com by mail11.digital.com (8.7.5/UNX 1.5/1.0/WV) id MAA04126; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:51:25 -0500 (EST) From: <alan_at_nabeth.cxo.dec.com> Received: by nabeth.cxo.dec.com (5.65/fma-100391); id AA29179; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:56:22 -0700 Message-Id: <9703201756.AA29179_at_nabeth.cxo.dec.com> To: jain_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu (Rakesh Jain) Subject: Re: disk mirroring on alpha In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 20 Mar 97 11:03:24 CST." <m0w7lFM-000RAzC_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 97 10:56:16 -0700 X-Mts: smtp Status: RO Get the LSM license and use it. If you only want a secondary disk for emergency boots, get a full backup of the system disk with dump or vdump and then use cron to run an incremental every night to catch the changes. If you have /var split off from you may find the full is sufficent and that you don't need the /var changes. LSM is the Logical Storage Manager. The base software supports volume concatentation and slicing. With the license you get the extended features of mirroring, striping and the graphic user interface. >From cop.dec.com!sarasin Thu Mar 20 12:08:42 1997 Return-Path: <sarasin_at_cop.dec.com> Received: by pascal.physics.smu.edu (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.5) id <m0w7mGX-000RAzC_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu>; Thu, 20 Mar 97 12:08 CST Received: from yosemite.cop.dec.com by decuac.dec.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/18Jan95-1237PM) id AA20677; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:08:40 -0500 Received: by yosemite.cop.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/25Sep96-1009AM) id AA03993; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:08:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:08:49 -0500 From: Sam Sarasin DTN 339-5413 <sarasin_at_cop.dec.com> Message-Id: <9703201808.AA03993_at_yosemite.cop.dec.com> To: jain_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu Subject: Re: disk mirroring on alpha Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: vvuMSJpdb1/YDnmmxDcFmA== Status: RO Hello, Yes, you can use Logical Storage Manager to Mirror your system disk. See the man page for volrootmir. Sam S >From decatl.alf.dec.com!davis Thu Mar 20 12:20:26 1997 Return-Path: <davis_at_decatl.alf.dec.com> Received: by pascal.physics.smu.edu (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.5) id <m0w7mRt-000RAzC_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu>; Thu, 20 Mar 97 12:20 CST Received: from decatl.alf.dec.com by mail1.digital.com (5.65 EXP 4/12/95 for V3.2/1.0/WV) id AA04572; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:19:00 -0800 Received: from merc.alf.dec.com by decatl.alf.dec.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/29May96-0321PM) id AA01843; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:18:58 -0500 Received: from localhost by merc.alf.dec.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/18Mar96-1058PM) id AA28812; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:18:57 -0500 Message-Id: <9703201818.AA28812_at_merc.alf.dec.com> To: jain_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu (Rakesh Jain) Cc: davis_at_decatl.alf.dec.com Subject: Re: disk mirroring on alpha In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 20 Mar 97 11:03:24 CST." <m0w7lFM-000RAzC_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 97 13:18:57 -0500 From: davis_at_decatl.alf.dec.com X-Mts: smtp Status: RO Rakesh, There are 2 ways of mirroring your boot drive. The first would be in hardware using a RAID type controller, ie the swxcr or hsz40/50. The second, and more complex, solution is to use Polycenter Logical Storage Manager to encapsulate and mirror root and swap. Alan Davis/dusg >From fwi.com!rrodgers Thu Mar 20 12:30:01 1997 Return-Path: <rrodgers_at_fwi.com> Received: by pascal.physics.smu.edu (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.5) id <m0w7mbA-000RAzC_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu>; Thu, 20 Mar 97 12:30 CST Received: from randy_rodgers.fwi.com (fw2-38.fwi.com [207.113.68.117]) by serv2.fwi.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12380 for <jain_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu>; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:39:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703201839.NAA12380_at_serv2.fwi.com> From: "Randy Rodgers" <rrodgers_at_fwi.com> To: "Rakesh Jain" <jain_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu> Subject: Re: disk mirroring on alpha Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:30:33 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Rakesh, Instructions on how to mirror the system disk (root, swap & /usr) using Logical Storage Manager are in the LSM manual. There is a whole chapter dedicated to LSM Root and Swap Disk Mirroring. Hope this helps you out. [================================= [ Randy Rodgers [ rrodgers_at_fwi.com [ System Administrator [ Allen County/City of Fort Wayne [ Information Systems [ (219)449-7660 [================================= ---------- > From: Rakesh Jain <jain_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu> > To: Alpha-OSF/1-Managers <alpha-osf-managers_at_ornl.gov> > Subject: disk mirroring on alpha > Date: Thursday, March 20, 1997 12:03 PM > > hi, > > I would like to mirror the system disk so that I can have a redundant > disk system in case of crash. any ideas how I can do that....... > I have a 3000-700 with DUNIX 3.2c. The disk I want to mirror is 4.2GB. > Or uis there any other way I can copy the data from the disk every night to > other disk and be able to boot from new disk in case first one crashed?. > > Thanks > Rakesh > >From hcia.com!rrens Thu Mar 20 13:04:30 1997 Return-Path: <rrens_at_hcia.com> Received: by pascal.physics.smu.edu (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.5) id <m0w7n8X-000RAzC_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu>; Thu, 20 Mar 97 13:04 CST Received: from notes.ba.hcia.com by sol.aa.hcia.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0w7n5u-001OkwC; Thu, 20 Mar 97 14:01 EST Received: by notes.ba.hcia.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (274.9 11-27-1996)) id 85256460.0068B05B ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:03:28 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: HCIA From: rrens_at_hcia.com To: jain_at_pascal.physics.smu.edu Message-ID: <87256460.006875CB.00_at_notes.ba.hcia.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:02:20 -0600 Subject: Re: disk mirroring on alpha Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=JpGiK4uZC7GFi04W0BznrYZpoasRqcRDiPURr57rFCQ3x1ZUF50Fxz0G" Status: RO --0__=JpGiK4uZC7GFi04W0BznrYZpoasRqcRDiPURr57rFCQ3x1ZUF50Fxz0G Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Richard Renshaw 03/20/97 02:02 PM To: jain _at_ pascal.physics.smu.edu cc: Subject: Re: disk mirroring on alpha If you are capable of running RAID on your system then RAID-1 is disk mirroring. It will write the same data to a pair of disks and you only need one of the pair to boot from. It does require that you use identical disks or you waste the extra space on the larger disk. (Embedded image moved jain _at_ pascal.physics.smu.edu to file: 03/20/97 10:03 AM PIC13001.PCX) To: alpha-osf-managers _at_ ornl.gov cc: (bcc: Richard Renshaw/DV/HCIA) Subject: disk mirroring on alpha hi, I would like to mirror the system disk so that I can have a redundant disk system in case of crash. any ideas how I can do that....... I have a 3000-700 with DUNIX 3.2c. The disk I want to mirror is 4.2GB. Or uis there any other way I can copy the data from the disk every night to other disk and be able to boot from new disk in case first one crashed?. 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