SUMMARY: Alpha Workstation Memory

From: Jon Eidson <eidson_at_unix4.is.tcu.edu>
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:20:06 -0600 (CST)

My origional post was:

> We have several Alphastation 200 4/144 machines we would like to
> add memory to. The machines have what appear to be standard
> simm slots (6 total of which 2 are being used). What kind of
> simms will work for these machines? Do standard simms works?
> Which ones (noparity, parity, edo)? The manual on these machines
> say 60 or 70ns simms but nothing else.
>
> I'd appreciate hear anyones experiences with simms and I'll
> summarize.
>
> Thanks, Jon.

My main concern was that simms (for PCs and the like) have really dropped
and I was afraid that when you say "workstation" the price triples. I've
noted 16meg EDO for well under $70/simm. Bottom line is I called our
DATARAM person and to my surprise, their prices were not bad. Given they
know the workstation market, lifetime warranty, etc we went ahead
and paid a bit of a premium and purchased thru them.

I also understand the KINGSTON also is a good place to purchase memory
from. I DO KNOW that Kingston treats their employees VERY well and my
hats off to them!

Both DATARAM and KINGSTON have web pages, email address and 800 phone
numbers:

   www.dataram.com 1-800-822-0071
   www.kingston.com 1-800-835-2545

Why not DEC??? Traditionally DEC memory prices, as someone pointed
out below, have been 2-3 times more the others. In their defense
I understand that DEC has recently announce more compeditive pricing
for their memory but I have not checked them out.

Thanks to all who have responded.

Jon Eidson
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> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 11:23:43 -0700
> From: "Jeffrey G. Micono 6533 (Ktech)" <jgmicon_at_sandia.gov>
>
> Check out PNY memory Corp. They had memory for a DEC Alpha AXPpc 150.
> For that machine, it had standard simm slots, and the following
> did *not* work:
>
> 60 ns EDO
> 70 ns Fast Page non-parity
>
> My best guess is that the memory is 70 ns Fast Page parity, but
> don't quote me!
>
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>
> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 14:22:39 -0500
> From: Dave Golden <golden_at_falcon.invincible.com>
>
> I assume that you mean 4/166 or 4/100 -- I don't remember a 4/144.
> In any case, the AS 200's use 70 ns or better SIMMS, 36 bit (parity)
> parts. You can either try out some commodity SIMMS or check out
> kingston memory (www.kingston.com) who will guarantee them to work
> in your units.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:18:46 -0500
> From: "William H. Magill" <magill_at_isc.upenn.edu>
>
> Kingston provides best prices for Alpha simm memory that we have found.
> (They don't make Alpha memory boards for the 2100s.)
>
> Kingston is a manufacturer, and their prices are normally lower
> than either DataRam or Clearpoint and 1/3 DEC's prices.
> AND! Kingston has a lifetime warranty, while Digital's is only 12 months!
>
> Kingston has many jobbers, who all use an integrated quoting system.
> Contact Kingston directly FIRST for a quote, (they have an educational discount)
> or you will find that they will tell you that you got a quote from xyzzy,
> a jobber of theirs and Kingston will merely match that quote.
>
> And based on experiences we have had with other random SIMM vendors,
> I would use Kingston first. Their memory is very reliable, and they
> ship to you first, without questions, next day air.
>
> Kingston Techmology
> Workstation products 800/835-2545
> www.kingston.com
> sales_at_kingston.com
> tech_support_at_kingston.com
>
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>
> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:47:07 -0800
> From: Jim Neeland <neeland_at_HRL.com>
>
> We have an Alphastation 200 4/100, and we used standard
> parity 60 ns 72-pin SIMMs with no problems (went from 32 to 64 MB).
> I would recommend that you make sure you are getting real parity
> SIMMs, since some clever folks are selling SIMMs with a parity
> generator chip in place of the parity bit. Sure does guarantee
> that you won't see a parity error! Also, at least around here
> there's not enough difference in price between 60 & 70 ns SIMMs
> to warrant using the slower ones (I figure it's nice to have a
> little bit more of a timing margin.)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 12:58:56 -0800
> From: "Kathleen M. Brennan" <ict_at_world.std.com>
>
> Dear Jon,
> Randy Perry at Aspen Systems forwarded your email message regarding
> Alpha
> w/s memory. Innovative Computer Technologies, Inc. is a reseller in the
> Digital marketplace and I would be more than happy to help you with your
> memory request.
>
> The AlphaStation 200 4/166 has 6 SIMM slots which support 3 memory
> options (3 SIMM pairs) for a maximum of 192MB. Memory pairs can be
> mixed. 192MB can only be obtained by starting with a 64MB system.
>
> I recommend upgrading with Dataram memory. Dataram memory is available
> for immediate shipment and carries a life time warranty. If you prefer
> Digital memory, please let me know and I will offer that as well. The
> memory is available in 8,16,32,64 and 128MB capacities. Please advise
> what you would like pricing on and I will send you a formal quotation.
> If you have any questions, please let me know. I look forward to
> hearing from you.
Received on Tue Jan 14 1997 - 20:37:16 NZDT

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