SUMMARY: Common Lisp for DU

From: Gernot Salzer <salzer_at_logic.at>
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 12:28:09 +0100

Some time ago I asked about successful installations of Common Lisp on DU4.0D.
I received several replies (thanks to all!).

This mail is structured as follows:
- Replies to my query
- Material I found in the list archive (before asking the list, of course :-)
- Our experience

Regards,
   Gernot Salzer


ANSWERS TO MY QUERY
===================

Arrigo Triulzi <arrigo_at_albourne.com>:
> GCL should compile with GCC. I develop using REDUCE and there is a
> version of Standard Lisp (I know it is a subset of Common Lisp... they
> might also have a CL version) called CSL which works fine on
> Alpha. They are called Codemist Ltd., I think they are www.codemist.tm
> but you are prob. better off looking it up on the Web.

Larry Griffith <larry_at_cs.wsc.ma.edu>:
> We have successfully installed the core of gcl (GNU Common Lisp), v2.2.2.
> However I was unable to compile CLOS; it failed with an obscure message
> originating in gcl itself. We are running on DU4.0Dp2.

"Richard L. Eisenman" <richarde_at_tricity.wsu.edu>:
> We have a copy of GCL running under 3.2C.

Debra Alpert <alpert_at_fas.harvard.edu>:
> We are currently running 2 different lisp implementations under both
> Digital Unix 4.0B and 4.0D. The commercial product is Allegro Common Lisp
> from Franz (Franz Lisp :) ), see http://www.franz.com for information.
> Many of our users, however, prefer a freeware common lisp, called clisp,
> as they claim it is faster. The distribution was compiled under DU4.0B; I
> don't recall that I had any difficulty building the package. The version
> we're running is clisp-1997-09-25, and was obtained via anonymous ftp
> from:
> ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de:/pub/lisp/clisp/source/clispsrc.tar.gz.

merlin_at_seas.smu.edu (Merlin Wilkerson):
> This one went together easily with DU and gcc. It was selected
> and is used by a group that has been happy with it. It's only been
> about a month so that may not be a resounding recommendation but may
> be worth a look.
> About CLISP:
> * Homepage
> http://clisp.cons.org/~haible/clisp.html
> * Source
> ftp://ftp2.cons.org/pub/lisp/clisp/source/
> http://clisp.cons.org/~haible/clisp/source/

LIST ARCHIVE
============

John Richards <john_at_zyqad.co.uk>:
> * Harlequin LispWorks: email lispworks-support_at_harlequin.co.uk for more info.
> This is a commercial product - very good but not cheap.
> Needs at least 64MB memory.
> * Allegro Common Lisp: Commercial lisp from Franz Inc. We don't use it
> so no comment. email franz.com for more info.
> * CMUCL: A public domain common lisp available for the alpha but has some
> restrictions which I can't fully remember. Get it from cmu.edu somewhere.
> * GCL: GNU Common Lisp. Public Domain common lisp from GNU.
> An extension of AKCL which compiles its code to C.
> * CLISP: Public Domain lisp from Germany originally Bruno Haible but now
> supported by someone else. Only Steele version 1 compliant but other
> add ons available to make it tend towards Steele 2.
>
> Look at the comp.lang.lisp newsgroup FAQs as one of them details all the
> lisps that are available. I usually get a version from rtfm.mit.edu but
> there may be somewhere closer to you.

deya_at_Pyramids.apana.org.au:
> There is Allegro Common Lisp Compiler (with CLOS Support) from Franz. Inc.
> This is not a free copy. You can get a free copy from
> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/ai_repository
> /ai/html/cltl/cltl2.html

amw <amw_at_aberystwyth.ac.uk>:
> We run the poplog software which has prolog and lisp as part of the package.
> This software runs on DIGITAl UNIX v3.2 on Alpha 3000/700 systems.
> The company we bought poplog from is ISL - Integral Solutions Limited.

Benlu Jiang <jiang_at_csdeca.cs.missouri.edu>:
> Check out the Lisp FAQ under
> ftp://ftp.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/ai-repository/ai/pubs/faqs/.
> Part four of the Lisp FAQ has a rundown on Common Lisp
> implementations, several of which are available for OSF/1.

Antonia Gomez <antonia_at_fib.upc.es>:
> Some ftp's sites are:
> ftp.inria.fr:/INRIA/Projects/icsla/Implementations/bigloo1.8b.tar.gz
> ftp.cs.cmu.edu:/afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/clisp/release
> http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/miller/ALU/home.html

OUR (limited) EXPERIENCE
========================

We are running DU4.0D, patch kit 1.

We first tried GNU Common Lisp gcl-2.2.2.
After adding "-DMUST_COPY_VA_LIST" to the compile flags (necessary to compile
nfunlink.c), compilation succeeded with a lot of warnings.
However, the executable didn't run stable and crashed with our (tested)
application.

Our second attempt was CMU Common Lisp (cmucl) 17f, available via anon ftp
from
    lisp-sun1.slisp.cs.cmu.edu (128.2.250.58)
    lisp-rt1.slisp.cs.cmu.edu (128.2.217.9)
    lisp-rt2.slisp.cs.cmu.edu (128.2.217.10)
in directory /afs/cs/project/clisp/release.
Following the instructions we were able to install it. Until now it seems to
work fine.
Received on Fri Mar 05 1999 - 11:30:40 NZDT

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