SUMMARY: Adding Alternate Sessions to CDE

From: Tom Webster <webster_at_SSDPDC.LGB.CAL.BOEING.COM>
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 12:16:32 -0800

Thanks go out to:

Dr. Tom Blinn <tpb_at_zk3.dec.com> (As always)
Octave Orgeron <unixconsole_at_yahoo.com>
Roberto.Mackun_at_Compaq.com <Roberto.Mackun_at_Compaq.com>

Dr. Blinn summed up the answer best:

> In a nutshell, no, not in the currently shipping CDE -- not supported.

Octave pointed out the reason why Solaris can do it and we can't:

> The problem is that Tru64 uses CDE v1.0, which does not support the
> customizable sessions. [....] In Solaris, they are using CDE v1.5,
> which has the customizable sessions that only require you to
> add dt scripts to the /etc/dt tree.

This is apparently a cost/benefit trade-off, and end-user workstations
don't seem to be an area that Compaq is focusing on. I'm going to
leave the issue open with Compaq Support, they have shipped it off to
'Research'. This way it may get noted that someone was at least asking
about it.

Roberto was nice enough to send instructions on modifying your .xsession
to allow a user to run an alternate window manager. This works, and
is how I'm running KDE right now. This is pretty normal X stuff, you
can find it in the documentation for most window managers if you look
hard enough, so I won't repost all of the details.

Thanks again to everyone, and especially the respondents noted above,

Tom

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Hi,

I've got Compaq support looking into this, but thought that some of
you may have already beaten this problem:

The CDE infrastructure is supposed to be able to support alternate
session types, selectable from dtlogin's sessions menu. An example
of this is Sun's inclusion of OpenWindows as an alternate session
type under CDE. (I seem to recall DECwindows being an option in
older versions of Digital UNIX (3.x?)).

Does this facility still exist in the currently shipping version of the
CDE? I would like to be able to add the ability to select alternate
session types (i.e. KDE or GNOME). I would also like to investigate
being able to use this facility to provide a login-less method to shut
a system down by selecting a captive 'shutdown' session.

[I know it is a bad idea in general, but with our power 'situation'
here in California, management is on me for a simple way to shutdown
workstations without requiring much of the person shutting the
system down -- ala Windows NT.]

I have a link that describes adding alternate window managers to the
CDE login manager under Solaris; but the directory structure is
different under Tru64 and the example does not work, even with some
wedging. Is this a matter of adjusting the suggested file locations,
or has CDE been modified to prevent the use of alternative window
managers?

Here's the link I mentioned:
http://twirl.mcc.ac.uk/~zzassgl/wm.html

Thanks in advance,

Tom
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