Dr. Blinn, I am always excited to see your response. 
I have read the advfs documentation but it is unclear about if the
parameters are related to UBC or not. My hope was that they were so that
reducing the UBC values would effectively reduce the percentage of
memory used by advfs. ;
AdvfsAccessMaxPercent	Default value: 80 (percent)
The maximum percentage of the malloc pool that can be allocated for
access structures.
AdvfsCacheMaxPercent	Default value: 7 (percent)
The percentage of system memory that is allocated to the AdvFS buffer
cache. 
>From System configuration and tuning:
To free memory resources, you may want to decrease the amount of memory
allocated to the AdvFS buffer cache. Decreasing the cache size also
decreases the overhead associated with managing the cache. The advfs
subsystem attribute AdvfsCacheMaxPercent determines the maximum amount
of memory that can be used for the AdvFS buffer cache. The default is 7
percent of physical memory. The minimum is 1 percent, and the maximum is
30 percent. If you are not using AdvFS or if you do not reuse many
files, decrease the cache size to 1 percent. If you are using AdvFS, but
you have a VLM system, you may also want to decrease the cache size.
However, decreasing the size of the AdvFS buffer cache may adversely
affect AdvFS I/O performance if you access and then reuse many files. 
As you can see that the decription of the parameter from the man pages
doesn't say anything about UBC however the description from the guide
does. Either way, what I don't understand is how the system consumes
over 4GB of memory over a week and doesn't seem to reclaim it.
After some tuning of ubc and sga
Virtual Memory Statistics: (pagesize = 8192)
procs    memory         pages                          intr        cpu
r  w  u  act  free wire fault cow zero react pin pout  in  sy  cs  us
sy  id
5 386 40  135K   1M 212K 887K 163K 305K  324 151K    0 821  4K  2K   3
5  92
5 384 40  143K   1M 220K  38K 5571  22K    0 4931    0 843  2K  4K   3
4  94
6 386 39  152K   1M 229K  40K 7096  18K    0 6140    0  1K  5K  5K   4
6  90
5 387 40  160K   1M 238K  15K  325 9762    0  621    0  1K 909  4K   2
3  96
5 385 42  173K   1M 239K  40K 7266  18K    0 6354    0 896  5K  4K   3
6  91
5 387 40  190K   1M 239K  11K  131 8821    0  246    0 883 825  4K   1
3  96
6 387 39  207K   1M 239K  38K 6975  18K    0 5885    0  1K  4K  4K   3
6  91
5 387 40  223K   1M 239K  14K  262 8788    0  493    0  1K 933  4K   1
3  96
5 387 40  239K   1M 239K  35K 3392  14K    0 3057    0  1K  4K  7K   3
7  91
5 387 40  252K   1M 239K  34K 4028  13K    0 3542    0  1K  2K  6K   2
5  93
5 387 40  263K   1M 240K  15K  384 6544    0  389    0  1K  2K  5K   1
4  95
Current, Here is an example of the system consuming all the memory.
r  w  u  act  free wire fault cow zero react pin pout  in  sy  cs  us
sy  id
 5 567 40  836K   55   1M  10K  467 1719 7322  665   13  1K  2K  6K   6
34  60
 5 566 41  836K  655   1M  36K 6815  13K  17K 6075    0  1K  5K  6K   8
8  83
13 559 41  836K  164   1M  11K  885 5073  16K 1101    0  4K  6K  6K  16
45  39
 6 567 40  836K   57   1M  38K 6862  12K  13K 6489   28  6K  9K  7K  17
72  11
 5 565 41  836K  125   1M 8664  686 1261 4246  610    0  3K  2K  6K  13
6  81
 9 569 41  836K  130   1M  29K 4560 9684 7041 4319    3  1K  6K  6K  10
9  81
 5 565 41  836K  124   1M  20K 3114 5390 4578 2907    7  1K  1K  7K  11
5  84
 5 563 42  833K  218   1M  11K  693 1824 4737  726    0  1K  2K  6K   9
5  86
 6 565 40  830K  127   1M  35K 6767  11K  13K 6092    0  1K  4K  5K   8
7  84
16 557 43  828K  222   1M 6518  325 2342  21K  360    0  2K  2K  4K   6
53  41
18 554 42  832K  174   1M 5707  653 2307 7135  725    0 711  3K  1K   1
99   0
12 565 40  836K  200   1M    0    0    0    0    0    0 511  1K  1K   1
99   0
 6 569 41  838K   57   1M  89K  17K  25K  26K  14K   70  1K  9K  3K   3
92   5
Some other suspect parameters
Vfs-bufcache:
At boot time, the kernel allocates wired memory for the metadata buffer
cache. The cache acts as a layer between the operating system and disk
by storing recently accessed UFS and CDFS metadata, which includes file
header information, superblocks, inodes, indirect blocks, directory
blocks, and cylinder group summaries. Performance is improved if the
data is later reused and a disk operation is avoided. The metadata
buffer cache uses bcopy routines to move data in and out of memory.
Memory in the metadata buffer cache is not subject to page reclamation.
The size of the metadata buffer cache is specified by the value of the
vfs subsystem attribute bufcache.
Vm-syswirepercent:
You can reduce the amount of dynamically wired memory by reducing the
value of the vm subsystem attribute vm-syswiredpercent. The default
value is 80 percent. 
Thoughts?
Regards,
Aaron Siebert
-----Original Message-----
From: Dr Thomas.Blinn_at_HP.com [mailto:tpb_at_doctor.zk3.dec.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 6:51 PM
To: Siebert, Aaron
Subject: Re: Disappearing free pages in memory 
I hate to say it, but what you are describing about how the system
uses the available memory (instead of, say, paging to disk which is
a losing proposition any time you can avoid it) is exactly how it's
supposed to work, from my understanding.
Have you looked at the sys_attrs_advfs reference page?  It should
help explain the AdvFS parameters you are asking about (I won't
claim to know much more than it says).
Tom
> Es40 4.0G 16 GB memory 4 cpu
> 
> We are fighting a disappearing free memory issue with a large oracle
> server. Upon boot and mount of the db we have 1M free pages. This
> decreases rapidly over time. Until it reaches the thresholds set by
the
> vm subsystem attributes for minimum free pages.
> 
> Oracle SGA is set to 6 GB. This leaves 10 GB physical memory free. We
> have reduced the ubc values below:
> vm:
> 	vm-maxvas = 7516192768
> 	vm-mapentries = 400
> 	ubc-minpercent = 1
> 	ubc-maxpercent = 5
> 	ubc-borrowpercent = 3
> 	vm-vpagemax = 917504
> 	vm-aggressive-swap = 1
> 
> Here are the advfs settings, I am curious about the CacheMax and
> AccessMax values:
> 
> advfs:
> AdvfsCacheMaxPercent = 7
> AdvfsAccessMaxPercent = 80
> 
> 1. Are these 2 values in relation to UBC, total system memory?
> 2. Is the AdvfsAccessMaxPercent value in relation to
> AdvfsCacheMaxPercent?
> 3. Kernel is allocating by ps -ef -o vsize more than 4.5GB
> 4. Does anyone have any other information that might help us to
> determine why our system over time continues to lose free pages?
> 
> Thanks for everyones help
> 
> Aaron Siebert
> Nagrastar Customer Support Engineer
> 303-706-5492 fax 303-706-5719
> Aaron.Siebert_at_NagraStar.com
Tom
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