SUMMARY: DECATHENA OSF/1 AXP

From: Richard L Jackson Jr <rjackson_at_portal.gmu.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:54:05 -0400 (EDT)

Hello,

Summary follows...

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Regards,
Richard Jackson                                George Mason University
UNIX Systems Engineer                          UCIS / ISO
                                               Computer Systems Engineering
My original question:
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We are in need of a conferencing package under Digital UNIX to replace
VMS DEC NOTES.  We are looking at Camber-Roth Caucus (cost money
*shiver*).  Any one using this software on a different platform --
it is not ported to Digital UNIX, yet?  I heard DECATHENA has conferencing
capability.  How is it compared to other conferencing packages?
Is anyone using DECATHENA?  Is DEC planning to support DEC NOTES
in the Digital UNIX arena?
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Responders:
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daniel_at_ds5200.sistecol.com (Daniel E. Visbal)
Sid Fagan - Sublimation MAN (NID) <fagan_at_large.fnal.gov>
"What's in a name?" <orion_at_iastate.edu>
Simon Greaves <censjg_at_caledonia.hw.ac.uk>
Henning Fruechtenicht <fruechte_at_rz5.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de>
tomq_at_ilo.dec.com
geoff_at_softy.softwords.bc.ca (Geoff Seeley)
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Responses:
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You could check on WebNotes and NetNotes from  OS TECHnologies Corporation.
They do have an NT version that is compatible with VAX Notes.
You can review  it at:
http://ostech.com/read-me
Daniel E. Visbal
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        This is confusing DEC NOTES conferencing???
        Are you talking about a audio/video/whiteboard conferencing?
        If so MBONE works on OSF and it's free... also runs on
        atleast Sun and SGI, haven't tried HP, AIX no way!
        David.
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DECAthena has two conferencing packages: discuss and zephyr.  Discuss is
similar to irc/mail.  Zephyr could be viewed as talk on steroid which can be
used in terminal mode or X mode.  DECAthena will cost you but it's very nice
for large distributed environment (100+ workstations and 1000+ users).  If
you don't want pay for such packages and in need of software adventure then
MIT Athena is for you.  
We hardly used discuss since it wasn't very user-friendly/convenient; also
its server doesn't replicate, i.e. multiple servers.  We like zephyr a lot. 
We use it for system wide notification, person-to-person communication,
group discussion, ... etc.   Btw, these two packages use kerberos for
authentication which is a very nice feature.
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Phi H. Truong                "No wisdom.  No enlightenment.  Only you."
orion_at_iastate.edu            ISU Computation Center
Systems Analyst              237 Durham Center         ph: (515) 294 - 1420 
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We run DECathena here on a bunch of Ultrix machines. The 'conferencing' 
software is called discuss and is probably still available from MIT and 
elsewhere as part of the MIT athena source, so you don't need to buy a 
DECathena license just to get it.
I'm not very familiar with conferencing packages per se, but I do think 
discuss is fairly nasty. Something I came across recently that may be of 
interest is the bboards software that is part of mh. I haven't used it, but I 
read about it recently and it sounded like it might do what you want.
Simon Greaves
censjg_at_caledonia.hw.ac.uk
DDI: +44 (0)131 451 3265                Fax: +44 (0)131 451 3261
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We are using DECathena at our site. It is a great tool for the administration of
workstations and users, but it's communication tools are rarely used at our site
(and, as far as I know, at other athena sites, too).
The communication tools contained in athena are:
        Discuss,        a kind of local news with some additional
features. I think this is
                the conferencing system that you mentioned in your mail.
        Zephyr, a fine replacement for Unix talk (X11 and terminal based). It is
 a
                messaging system which can submit messages from one user to
                other user(s) as well as from system events to user(s).
        OLC     (on line consulting), a system which provides stock answers to 
                common questions and entering new questions into a queue that 
                will be "processed" by experts.
In the athena environment all these tools need the Kerberos protocol, so it migh
t be
difficult to compile the public domain versions. 
Bye,
Henning
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Henning Fruechtenicht                   fruechtenicht_at_rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de
Rechenzentrum                           Tel.: +49 4421 804323
FH Wilhelmshaven                        Fax.: +49 4421 81950
Friedrich-Paffrath-Str. 101
D-26389 Wilhelmshaven
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do you know that there is a DECnotes client available for Digital UNIX? It's 
in one of the DECnet subsets.
Not much use if you don't run DECnet or have a VMS notes server! DEC doesn't 
have any plans to port the notes server to Digital UNIX. There is another 
company called OSTech who sell a notes server product (almost 100% compatible 
with DECnotes). Originally they developed their server for Windows-NT. I don't 
know if they have ported it to Digital UNIX but I believe that they are/were 
considering doing so. Their phone number is (508) 433-0200. Maybe they can 
help.
regards,
Tom Quigley,
Digital Equipment Corp.
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Please visit the this Web URL for information pertaining to a UNIX conferencing
system that will soon be ported to OSF/1 (Alpha).
http://www.swifty.com/SRI/cosy400/cover.html
Geoff Seeley
CoSy Development, SRI
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