Hello Managers,
I have got many responses to my question. Those who have responded
are as follows.
Rich McClellan
Peter Bivesand
Scooter Morris
John Banghart
Anil Khullar
David Warren
Kweiner
Rafael
Carl Joel
John Reeves
UFPEL - CPMET
Kees Bol
Pulak Rakshit
Charudatta Deodas
System Account
Khan
I would like to thank them all for responding to my query.
Below is the summary of the all the mail.
Mohan Mahajan
Email : mmahajan_at_anand.nddb.ernet.in
> > > Subject: Creating Web Server
> > > Hello Managers,
> > >
> > > We are planning to create a web server for our organisation. We
are
> > > thinking of either using Digital Alpha+ Digital Unix or Silicon
> > > graphics solution. Any one has an idea, of what all additional
> > > softwares (also approx. cost in US $) are required on Digital
Unix
> > > for createing web home page. Which machine is better from
response,
> > > I/O, usabiltity, maintainence point of view. I heard that,
Silicon
> > > graphics has got better software for creating home page. You
may
> > > send your experience with these two hardware + software.
> > >
> > > Your reponse is appriciated. I will summarize.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Mohan Mahajan
> > > Email : mmahajan_at_anand.nddb.ernet.in
> > >
> >
> >
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> > From: "Scooter Morris" <scooter_at_gene.com>
> >
> > Mohan,
> > We use both Digital Unix machines and Silicon Graphics
machines
> > internally, but all of our web servers are on our Alpha's. The
major
> > reason is price/performance. The Digital Alpha systems are more
> > standard and work exceedingly well for our applications.
> >
> > -- scooter
> >
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> > From: "Rich McClellan" <richmc_at_seneca.fullerton.edu>
> >
> > Hello Mohan!
> > I have experience with IRIX and DEC Unix. It is very easy to set
up
> > a web server and create web pages, though SGI has very cool,
better
> > (and expensive) tools for web document authoring than DEC.
> >
> > Rich McClellan
> >
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> > From: Rafael <rafa_at_www.icfes.gov.co>
> >
> > Hi Mohan,
> > Digital offers both high perfomance and security. You can use the
ncsa
> > (httpd v 1.5), CERN (httpd v3.0) or apache freeware packages for
web
> > server. The fisrt can be downloaded from:
> >
> > ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu
> > Subdirectory (Web)
> >
> > You can get information about apache at www.apache.org
> >
> > All run fine on alpha!!
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > - rafael-
> >
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> > From: kweiner_at_shaman.com
> >
> > Mohan -
> > Look at March 1996 BYTE. It has a long article "6 Servers Tangle
on
> > the Web". They like your two choices. Best Overall was DEC
> > AlphaServer 1000 4/266, US$20690. Runner up was SGI WebForce
Indy,
> > US$10995. We use both, with Apache servers. I don't know how much
of
> > the article is on the web; their address is http://www.byte.com
> >
> > Ken
> > Ken Weiner
> > Ingres DBA, 4th Dimension DBA, Digital Unix SysAdmin
> > Shaman Pharmaceuticals, Inc., South San Francisco, CA,
> > kweiner_at_shaman.com
> > standard disclaimers apply
> >
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> >
> > From: Peter Bivesand <PetBi_at_unit.liu.se>
> >
> > Hello.
> > I've been using Digital and DigitalUNIX for a lot of web-
servers.
> > It works very well with the most popular servers (netscape,
> > Apache,etc)
> > and the performance is much better then the average web-
server.
> > Unless you choose a brand new R10000-processor from SGI, the
Alpha
> > from Digital will perform better in all cases. I/O on a web-
server
> > is mainly reading many small files over and over again, and
> > an Alpha with fast SCSI-bus and a pretty fast hard drive is
> > extremely fast.
> > When it comes to software, get the Apache WWW-server, it's
almost
> > free (shareware) and very fast and easy to use.
> > For editing web-pages, use emacs and html-helper-mode, or
another
> > web-page-editor, there are a lot free. You can also get the
new
> > AltaVista-software package from Digital, released just a few
weeks
> > ago. This is just a short summary, if you want more info,
> > just let me know, but now I must go :)
> >
> > //Peter Bivesand, System Manager.
> >
> >
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> > Peter R Bivesand, UNIT, University of Linkvping, SWEDEN
> > PetBi_at_UNIT.LiU.SE URL:http://www.unit.liu.se/~pebivlid
> > Finger bive_at_styra.lidac.liu.se for PGP public-key.
> >
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> > From: "Rich McClellan" <richmc_at_seneca.fullerton.edu>
> >
> > Hello Mohan!
> >
> > I have experience with IRIX and DEC Unix. It is very easy to set
up
> > a web server and create web pages, though SGI has very cool,
better
> > (and expensive) tools for web document authoring than DEC.
> >
> > Rich McClellan
> >
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> > From: Carl Joel Kuzmich <cjk_at_omedsrvb.omed.pitt.edu>
> >
> > I would not use the fact that SGI allows you to create "pages" on
> > their box.... Pages are easy to create without any speciall type
of
> > "web" editor. If an editor is important then there are quite a
few
> > "freeware" ones available as well as commercial ones.... This
should
> > not be the reason you buy a particular type of hardware!
> >
> > My real question to you is "What do you want to do" .... if you
have
> > large amounts of information then maybe you should consider a
> > database???? If video or audio is critical then you need to
consider
> > disk I/O???? The main overriding point is what is industry
> > standard???? Which applications will you need to run, what server
> > will you be running (netscape or something else)????? Which
platforms
> > are supported by the vendor you select for server software, ie.
maybe
> > netscape does not sell and distribute a version for sgi ????
> >
> > My suggestion to you would be to first, decide what you think you
> > will be delivering one or two years from now. Then based on this
find
> > out what types of software are not just available but also
supported
> > and for what platforms. Then consider what bandwidth will be
required
> > to deliver this to the clients.... Then work backwards and
determine
> > how fast of a CPU you will need, how many disks and how fast they
> > will need to be, how much RAM will be required to do what you
have in
> > mind, etc....
> >
> > At Pitt I have several web servers that are on DEC Alphas, some
on SUN
> > Sparcs, and also run some BSDI servers based on Pentiums. Also,
you
> > do not want to leave out the MAC as a web server platform. The
main
> > University server here at Pitt is running on a MAC. About 30% of
all
> > web serving worldwide is currently being done on the MAC
platform;
> > you can get by with a lot less hardware and do the same job with
a
> > Macintosh web server than with any other platform. If you want to
see
> > a site that runs on a MAC go check-out the BMW site. It's as fast
or
> > faster than any other site!!!
> >
> > Each is adequate at providing pages to clients..... But not all
> > software, ie. "Real Audio" is available on all platforms??? This
> > usually determines what hardware you will purchase!!
> >
> > Carl Joel Kuzmich (412) 648-1099 | Great spirits have always
> > encountered |
> > University of Pittsburgh | violent opposition from
mediocre
> > minds |
> > Office of Medical Education | - Albert Einstein |
> > Pittsburgh, PA 15261
> >
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> > From: John Banghart <john_at_success.net>
> > Organization: Red Rose SuperNet
> >
> > We use a Dec Alpha + DU with the Spinner Web
> > server.(http://spinner.infovav.se)
> > We have many virtual servers and it runs great. As for page
creation,
> > we do most of that using Linux or Mac.
> >
> > --
> > John Banghart
> > Systems Administrator
> > Red Rose SuperNet
> > http://www.redrose.net/john
> > john_at_success.net
> >
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> > From: "Anil Khullar, Computer Center"
> > <Anil.Khullar_at_mailhub.gc.cuny.edu>
> > Organization: Graduate School and University Center, CUNY,
New
> > York
> >
> > There are many servers available for unix, some commercial, some
free.
> > The most popular freeware is apache. Available from
www.apache.org and
> > its mirror sites. There is also Netscape's Communications Server,
> > Commerce
> > Server, etc. You are better off using Apache, because it will
give you
> > exposure and also a general understanding.
> >
> > Silicon Graphics is good for media firms, entertainment industry,
> > advertisers etc. It is an overkill of rest of us.
> >
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> > From: David Warren <warren_at_atmos.washington.edu>
> >
> > The only software needed on DEC UNIX is the WEB server. If you
buy
> > one of their
> > internet server packages, the netscape netsite server is
included. If
> > you look at
> > SGI, make sure that they are quoting you all of the software
needed.
> > We have found
> > that they seem to forget things like networking in their quotes.
> >
> > David Warren INTERNET: warren_at_atmos.washington.edu
> > (206) 543-0945 Fax: (206) 543-0308
> > University of Washington
> > Dept of Atmospheric Sciences, Box 351640
> > Seattle, WA 98195-1640
> >
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> > From: khan_at_fbi003.informatik.fh-hamburg.de
> >
> > Hello Mohan,
> >
> > Installing the server take a little Time. I have several Cern and
> > Ncsa Server installed, here at our side (www.informatik.fh-
> > hamburg.de).
> > I compiled them on Digital Unix V3.0 (OSF/1) and Ultrix.
> >
> > The Performance depends on the server you are using.
> > The hardware is not important, you can take even a 486, if
> > you don't have thousands of connections a day and not much
Graphics.
> >
> > Indeed Silicon Graphics has better Software for creating Home
> > Pages, but as mentioned above, you can take every Text Editor, and
> > SGI is good with Graphics, but remember if you take a lot of
> > Graphics in your Pages, you slow down your response time and
Bandwith
> > !!
> > (Especially if you don't have 2MB/s connections)
> >
> > Think about less Graphics and more Information.
> >
> > Despite the costs for Hardware, I put up our site here with costs
> > of 0,00 $.
> >
> > regards, Ronald
> > Dipl. Ing. Ronald Ali-Khan
> > khan_at_informatik.fh-hamburg.de
> > Hamburg, Germany
Received on Fri May 24 1996 - 07:02:58 NZST