Summery: Re: SUMMERY: Hitting on Pagers with Dial-out Modems...

From: franXoSAURus reX <franx_at_oas.telstra.com.au>
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:48:56 +1000

Greetings,

A big thankyou to everyone who replied to the last summation of the
message that not many people read the original of...

Here they are:

"Anthony D'Atri" <aad_at_nwnet.net>
Chander Ganesan <C_at_Asu.Edu>
Dave Sill <de5_at_sws5.ctd.ornl.gov>
David Warren <warren_at_atmos.washington.edu>
Mathias Koerber <mathias_at_staff.singnet.com.sg>
Mike Iglesias <iglesias_at_draco.acs.uci.edu>
D Shikoski <don_at_elmo.nmc.edu>
Dave Sill <de5_at_sws5.ctd.ornl.gov>
Tom Webster <ssdgwy.mdc.com>
Peter Flack <flack_at_rtp4me.ENET.dec.com>

My apologies for not getting this out sooner; there was a lot of
detailed info to process, Basically I have hit on working solution for
the PET protocol...

Here is a real quick praise of what they wrote:

Mathias Koerber wrote:

> PET is just tortured IXO (IXO with cleartext messages in it). HylaFax
> (http://www.vix.com.hylafax) has a pager interface which speaks IXO.
> You can hack that to speak PET. You will still only be able to talk to
> alphanumeric pagers (unless your system also gives you a modem
> connection for numeric pagers, ours doesn't).

> Then you can twist the faxmailers which come with hylafax to be
> pagemailers..

D Shikoski sourced a really useful article (can send the the whole thing
if req.) and wrote:

> This works with very little work on the alpha 1000 with DEC Unix.

> I've put this into action for my Motorola Alpha Gold pager is it seems
> to work all of the time. Have fun.
> SA Logo

> Automated System Administrator's Pager

> by David Dykes
> As published in the May, 1996 Sys Admin.
> Copyright 1996 by Miller Freeman, Inc.
> All rights reserved.

David Warren

> If you have a working kermit script, all you would need to do is set up the
> equivalent of a mailing list:
> in aliases have
> fax: "| /usr/local/bin/faxscript"

> Then faxscript would take the text in the mail message and turn it into your
> kermit script and run kermit.

Chander Ganesan wrote:

> I didn't see (or perhaps read) your original note, but I am
> guessing you want a pager gateway (ie. when you get mail you get a page as
> well) . This can be done using Innosoft PMDF, their product has a pager
> channel built into it, which will send e-mail messages using the TAP
> dialup protocol for alphanumeric pagers. Basically, it will send multiple
> pages depending on the size of the message (you can set a max etc.) .
> We use it here (minimally) .

> Incidentally, most all paging switches will handle 300 baud, some
> will handle 1200 and 2400, but to the best of my knowledge there aren't
> that many that will....the faster ones will handle 300 baud as well
> though, so you might try using 300 baud always...

Anthony D'Atri wrote:

> Try sendpage7a.

Mike Iglesias wrote (and included a good lengthy document, can send on
if req.):

> Sorry I didn't get this to you sooner. There's a package available
> called sendpage that will do what you want. I haven't tried it yet;
> we're still using something we got off the net that is no longer
> distributed/supported.

> sendpage is available from
> ftp://ftp.airnote.net/pub/paging-software/unix

> I've included a document that came with the older software that describes
> the protocol. IXO = PET in the document.

Dave Sill wrote:

> We use a free utility called "tpage" to send alpha pages and procmail
> or deliver to do e-mail->tpage->pager and
> web->e-mail->tpage->pager. Try an archie or Altavista search on tpage.

Tom Webster wrote:

> I think you were looking at the ad for Spatch, which is a cleaned-up and
> commecialized version of tpage. Tpage is still avaiable on the net, but I
> didn't have much luck getting it to work with DU.

> We use HylaFax. What's that you say? You were asking about aplha pagers
> and not fax software.... HylaFax actually does both, the newer versions
> of HylaFax even support SNPP (Simple Network PAging Protocol) which lets you
> page over the net instead of messing with modems if you paging provider
> supports it (it also lets you act as a server for third-party SNPP clients
> if you do want to dedicate outgoing modems).

> The primary use I've been getting out of it is notifications from NSR
> (i.e. when the NSR needs tapes that aren't in the juke), some system and
> security related threshold notifications, and of course the CGIs that I
> strung together so our users could page the person who is on-duty and the
> restricted page that allows our department to send pages to other people
> in the department via our local Intranet web server.

> A couple tips:

> 1. HylaFax needs a C++ compiler. I didn't have a lot of luck with DEC's C++.
> GCC 2.7.2 works fine (g++ is now a part of gcc). You will also want to
> use the GNU version of make.

> 2. If you create a way to send alpa pages easily, be careful how access is
> granted or it WILL be *ABUSED*.

Peter Flack wrote:

> It is taking me a while to catch up on my mail this week due to some technical
> problems, so you may already have decent answers, but...

> I do know of one large customer that is using a product called "Spatch" for
> doing Alphanumeric pages from Console Manager and shell scripts...

> Hope this helps.

Original Summary follows:

> Greetings Alpha OSF Mngrs (again),

> Well it seems that people seem to think it would be nice to
> have, but nobody has bowled me over with a mind-bonk (oif)
> solution. My apologies for not doing this earlier; the volume
> of incoming mail is driving me berserk (biff -n)...

> Gyula Szokoly (szgyula_at_skysrv.Pha.Jhu.EDU)

> > > I am trying to reverse engineer what our Winpager Robot (a 386 PC) does;
> > > when you call the number, you don't get any V.22 bis answer tone, so the
> > > calling must go into answer mode...
> >
> > According to the Motorolla homepage, you need to use Bell 103 mode
> > (300 baud). They claim that it's faster (fast hanshake balances slow
> > transmittion). They also say that you will need the system name, which is
> > not necessarily related to the PIN number (or phone number) so you should
> > all the provider.

> I tried hooking up the data scope to reverse engineer Winpage
> running on a 386 DOS PC, it actually was connecting at 2400 bps.

> Jim Neeland (neeland_at_madmax.hrl.hac.com) wrote:

> > I can't help on this one, but I'd sure like to hear what
> > you find out (i.e. this is a plea for a SUMMARY: ....)
> > In particular, I have a UPS that is supposed to send out
> > pager notifications, but I have no idea how it does that, why it
> > doesn't work, what it takes to test the port+modem, etc.

> Colleen Harry (colleen_at_persimmon.com) wrote:

> > I would love to here if you get any answers to your question
> > about pagers. We're currently trying to set up something
> > similar for support purposes. Would you please email me
> > any answers you receive.

> Gustavo Gibson da Silva (gupe_at_elogica.com.br) wrote:

> > We have a system like this to our costumers. The principle is very
> > simple: The costumer subscribe into our system and every message he/she
> > receives have their subject matched against a password. If it matches
> > the message is forwarded to the pager.

> > As it is a pretty new stuff we are still working to fix some bugs...:-)
> The practical upshot of this is, nobody knows all that much about
> it. Our Alphanumeric pager robot uses a setup called Page Entry
> Terminal (PET) Protocol. Messages are checksummed. I created a
> KERMIT take file script to send the checksummed message as follows:

> set parity odd
> show parameters
> output ATZE0V1\13
> input 5 OK
> xif FAILURE { echo \13NO MODEM, goto END } else { echo \13 }
> dial T0,123456789
> xif FAILURE { echo \13DIALUP FAILED, goto END } else { echo \13 }
> output \13
> input 5 ID=
> xif FAILURE { echo \13ID FAILED, goto END } else { echo \13 }
> output \27password\13
> input 5 \06
> xif FAILURE { echo \13LOGIN FAILED, goto END } else { echo \13 }
> xmit testpager.msg
> input 5 mess
> xif FAILURE { echo \13MSG FAILED ???, goto END } else { echo \13 }
> output \04\13
> input 5 \04
> xif FAILURE { echo \13HANGUP FAILED, goto END } else { echo \13 }
> :END
> hangup

> This could be set up to launch via rsh from the console
> manager...

> What I would really like is a solution that works from a
> mailer...

> Original Message follows:
 
> > Somewhere in a UNIX magazine I was reading, there was a product where you could
> > have your email sent to you on via Alphanumeric Pager...
> >
> > Has anybody out there had any success with anything like this???
> >
> > We are installing Polycentre Console Manager and Watchdog for our AlphaServer
> > environment; it would be useful to know when a RAIDset had failed over,
> > etc. pref. before too many people in the office started prancing around
> > doing Hitler impersonations!
> >
> > I am trying to reverse engineer what our Winpager Robot (a 386 PC) does;
> > when you call the number, you don't get any V.22 bis answer tone, so the
> > calling must go into answer mode...
> >
> > If anyone knows the Hayes command strings, or has a KERMIT script that
> > would do the trick, or able to provide a better solution, could they
> > please fill me in???

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