SUMMARY: Ultrix question (sorry for the topic here...)

From: Rainer Landes <rlandes_at_fphws01.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 11:23:29 +0100

Thanks to the following, which answered to my question in this
mailing list (in the newsgroup comp.unix.ultrix no answer showed
up yet!):

"Sean O'Connell" <sto_at_stat.Duke.EDU>
Bryce Hilton <hilton_at_jasper.uor.edu>
alan_at_nabeth.cxo.dec.com ---------------- precise answer, thanks a lot!
barnwell_at_eksystems.com
Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann <vaxinf_at_chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de>
Charles Knox <knox_at_grendel.astr.cwru.edu>
"William H. Magill" <magill_at_isc.upenn.edu>
Why not ? <gege_at_cal.enst.fr>
"Bernt Christandl" <beb_at_rosat.mpe-garching.mpg.de>
Harald Lundberg <hl_at_tekla.fi>

Summary:

1) newsgroup for ULTRIX is comp.unix.ultrix
2) ULTRIX does definitely not run on the SPX graphics hardware
3) ULTRIX does definitely not run on Model 78 of VAXstations 3100
4) SPX works as Xwindow terminal (VXT2000 software)
   (only DECnet, no TCP/IP though)
5) Model 78 does not work as Xwindow terminal
6) use EWS on the SPX machine

Original question was:

#Sorry, I could not find a newsgroup comp.os.ultrix...
#so I hope someone can point me to the right place
#
#Hardware:
#a) VAXstation 3100 M38 SPX
#b) VAXstation 3100 M78
#
#Problem: I want to run Ultrix/UWS on them.
#
#checked the SPD for Ultrix and for UWS.
#Can't find hardware mentioned above in it.
#
#Tried Ultrix 4.5, UWS 4.5.
#
#a) X11 seems not to run on SPX graphics.
# Is this a "really doesn't work" ???
#
#b) my M78 has only 4MByte RAM.
# Would it work with more RAM?
# Or is the M78 really not supported by Ultrix/UWS?
#
...

some snippets from the answers:

From: <alan_at_nabeth.cxo.dec.com>
...

        For a newsgroup you want comp.unix.ultrix. There is also
        decstation-managers mailing list served by the same system
        doing the alpha-osf-managers list.

        a. Does not work. Will never work, unless you want to
            write the driver and X server yourself. Around the
            time the SPX was released for the VAXstations, the
            good TURBOchannel adapters were being released for
            the DECstation family. With limited engineering
            resource and few really good X server writing, guess
            which won...

        b. The Model 78 is not supported by ULTRIX. Again it
            a resource issue, with the DECstations of the time
            being the far more interesting (and generally faster)
            system. The Model 38/48 were the last VAXstations
            supported by ULTRIX.



From: Charles Knox <knox_at_grendel.astr.cwru.edu>
...
 You could try to
find a GPX board for the 38, that combo is supported. 4mb is going to do an
awful lot of swapping, too.
...

From: Why not ? <gege_at_cal.enst.fr>
...
        It does not work. you can use it as an X Terminal, though
(with the VXT sotfware)
....

comment (Rainer Landes:)

I tried it before. It works with the M38SPX, but no
TCP/IP ( -> not useful for Xwindows to DEC alphas)
It does not work with the M78 at all.



From: Harald Lundberg <hl_at_tekla.fi>
...
> a) X11 seems not to run on SPX graphics.
> Is this a "really doesn't work" ???
Yeah, unfortunately. I had a lot of vt1300 Xterminals (which are 3100's
with SPX graphics), You can run EWS (vaxeln) or VMS on them.
...


Thanks again to everybody!

Rainer Landes, eMail: Computer-Administration_at_Physik.uni-karlsruhe.de
Tel(+49)721 608 3578 http://www-comp.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de/
Computer facilities of the Faculty of Physics, Univ. of Karlsruhe, GER
Received on Wed Jan 22 1997 - 02:03:10 NZDT

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