SUMMARY: Need suggestion for Alpha purchase ...

From: Thomas Leitner <tom_at_finwds01.tu-graz.ac.at>
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 20:45:08 +0200 (MET DST)

Hello,

The consensus seems to be that there is one company in the US which
can offer a service contract for a PC164LX based system. But this is
unlikely to be available here in Europe.

The closest Digital counterpart is a Personal Workstation 600au.

So: I'll contact our local Digital folks here next week for a
price quotation.

Thanks to: Russel Morison <russel_at_maths.unsw.EDU.AU>
            "Monroe, David" <David_at_psds.com>
            alan_at_nabeth.cxo.dec.com

Here are their replies and my original posting at the end.

Have a nice weekend everybody.

Tom
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From: Russel Morison <russel_at_maths.unsw.EDU.AU>

G'Day Thomas,
            if you just purchased a base system personal workstation
it comes with neither graphics card or monitor, although I think
the system disk is a 4.3 G ultra wide. the box does come
with a 10/100 M ehternet card built in, so this may well do what you want.
In australia it comes with a 3 year hardware maintanence contract
and can be included in any software / hardware contratcs.

hope this help,
        Russel Morison ....

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From: "Monroe, David" <David_at_psds.com>

The PC164LX 600MHz is a good choice, but is typically not supported on a
Digital service contract. We are the only vendor in the U.S. that can
offer Digital service contracts on PC164LX-based systems, and I haven't
checked to see if it could be stretched to cover overseas locations.
The only reason we can put the PC164LX-based systems under Digital
service contracts in the U.S. is because of a special agreement we have
with Digital. Also, the PC164LX cannot be purchased directly from
Digital because it is specifically for the OEM market.

The closest original Digital system to the PC164LX is the Personal
Workstation 600au, which you will pay a premium for, and are limited on
how much you can strip it down. In fact, the 600au and the PC164LX are
based on the same motherboard design (same basic design, but different
number of PCI slots, RAM slots, etc.).

I hope that helps.

Regards,

David Monroe
Puget Sound Data Systems, Inc.
mailto:david_at_psds.com
Voice: 425-488-0710
Fax: 425-488-6414
Internet: http://www.psds.com
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From: alan_at_nabeth.cxo.dec.com

        To see if the operating system supports a particular system,
        check the Software Product Description. The V4.0D SPD does
        list the Alpha PC 164/LX as supported.

        To find out if we'll provide hardware support for a particular
        system, ask MCS.

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Subject: Need suggestion for Alpha purchase ...

Hi,

While this is not quite "managers" related I ask here anyway because
I think that it might be of general interest:

For a scientific cooperation our partner needs a fast number cruncher.
Naturally I'm thinking of an Alpha here. The problem is, they need
neither a workstation, nor a server. The Alpha should only be used
as a number cruncher.

The obvious idea is to buy a PC164LX board / 600MHz with a Digital Unix
single user license, stuff in memory and a cheap 2GB harddisk and we're
ready. They don't even need a graphics board. A serial console will do as
well.

Now the problem is: As an ex-government institution, our cooperation
partner needs to buy something which is OFFICIALLY SUPPORTED by Digital
and which they can take under their Enterprise wide support contract.

So my questions:

- can a PC164LX based machine be bought from Digital anyway and can
  it be taken into a support contract then?

- can a PC164LX based machine be bought from a reseller and then be taken
  under a Digital support contract?

- What is the equivalent original Digital Machine to the PC164LX with
  a 600MHz CPU? Can it be bought stripped down like this (without
  graphics board and only a small harddisk)?

Thanks and I'll summarize of course.

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